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5 Rules For Bass Players - Sincerely, A Drummer 🙏🏽

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Rob Brown

Rob Brown

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A few tips for bassists in the CCM and worship universe from a drummer. SUBSCRIBE TO THE CHANNEL for more great free drum lessons, tips, advice and cool product reviews.
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@ImpulseGenerator
@ImpulseGenerator 2 ай бұрын
As a bass player I'll take tips from experienced drummers any day.
@bobbyfinn5406
@bobbyfinn5406 2 ай бұрын
Our relationship is completely flipped. I'm the newbie drummer and the bassist has 50 years of experience!
@ImpulseGenerator
@ImpulseGenerator 2 ай бұрын
@@bobbyfinn5406 You guys are going to learn a lot from each other.
@tobydrums1
@tobydrums1 2 ай бұрын
Smart.
@vittorio870
@vittorio870 2 ай бұрын
Someone once commented that he don't take advice from a bassist......and he IS a bassist 😅
@bmbell71
@bmbell71 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for bringing up the 5 string bass. To me a 5 string is a must for worship music, because you're probably going to have to transpose some songs down and you can play the songs with the same fingerings but just drop your positioning down to the B string and you retain all the low end of the song.
@tristanmouw9077
@tristanmouw9077 2 ай бұрын
It also makes sense to have a 5 string because it supports the range that keys players play in!
@antonioharris5936
@antonioharris5936 2 ай бұрын
Sooooo, ditch your 4 string??
@WorbyBass
@WorbyBass 2 ай бұрын
I’ve got one tip that I’d say is the most important. Especially since this is the context of a worship musician. You’ve got to spend time with God. You’ve got to make sure your hearts in the right place, that you showed up to serve, you showed up to worship. You definitely have to practice, we are commanded to play skilfully before the Lord. But a lot of things actually take care of themselves when your heart is in the right place and you work hard to keep it there. If we don’t have unity offstage, we’re not going to have it on stage. Love God, love each other, have a heart of service and you will do a great job as a worship musician. By the way, great video! I really love working with drummers, locking in that groove. Less can definitely be more, especially when you’re trying to lead a congregation. I’ve been playing bass for 20+ years (maybe 30+). Both in churches and in bands.
@edjones2199
@edjones2199 Ай бұрын
@@WorbyBass you got most of it right I believe you have to practice you have to be skilled. I don’t think it has anything to do with loving God or loving your brother. They may help some people but just being a really good player with big ears is really the most important thing, but loving God and loving your brother whole different subjectand much more important on a different level but I like where your heart is you sound like a cool player I’d like to play with you sometime
@johnnyfreeman1018
@johnnyfreeman1018 2 ай бұрын
Now do a 5 rules for Drummers....sincerely The Bassist......
@fiquitoyunque
@fiquitoyunque 2 ай бұрын
I’ll start. 1- Stop the dogma. The stage is not an extension of the pulpit.
@cameronvinson
@cameronvinson 2 ай бұрын
Bass and drums have to support each other and, both players have to understand, listen and talk to each other
@edjones2199
@edjones2199 2 ай бұрын
@@johnnyfreeman1018 I don’t believe there’s five rolls. I believe there’s one rule big ears.
@edjones2199
@edjones2199 2 ай бұрын
@@johnnyfreeman1018 being a drummer I totally get it. I was an idiot for 20 years now I’m too old to figure shit out still feels good though.
@MrDsmith1959
@MrDsmith1959 Ай бұрын
You mean cymbal players
@kronik9618
@kronik9618 3 ай бұрын
No way, I’ve followed you for a while as a drummer and just started playing bass, now this came out haha
@tired247
@tired247 3 ай бұрын
Same lol, I was just looking for bass tutorials and wishing he played bass. Only to find out my drum teacher is also now my bass teacher 💀 and the fact I play worship drums too is crazy
@joababoikoni5624
@joababoikoni5624 3 ай бұрын
@@tired247 my exact situation...thought my brain was playing games🤣🤣🤣
@401Blues
@401Blues 3 ай бұрын
Yea ...when practicing drums to backing tracks I got seduced by the more melodic groove of the bass. I admittedly live and die by taking cues from snare and bass drum
@636racer
@636racer 2 ай бұрын
dude i thought he had a twin brother i was like what 😂
@curtiscopeland7975
@curtiscopeland7975 2 ай бұрын
Same here!
@stevenabi5095
@stevenabi5095 3 ай бұрын
Right on . 25 years worship drummer. Great advice to all musicians but especially our partners in the pocket, rhe bass players. Lock in with us fellas!
@jmoosic
@jmoosic 2 ай бұрын
Sometimes you drummers need to lock in with the bass....some drummers kick beats are trash
@ahall3823
@ahall3823 2 ай бұрын
As a guitarist who gets asked to play bass occasionally, I learned: - I need a 5-string bass - we need more bass players in our church…
@dave-d
@dave-d 3 ай бұрын
Someone had to say it! The bass is a percussion instrument as well as a melodic instrument. I play drums to keep my bass playing together. Thanks Rob.
@johnbelfiglio562
@johnbelfiglio562 3 ай бұрын
Serve the song! That’s goes for any instrument!
@stevecurtis-go8kk
@stevecurtis-go8kk 3 ай бұрын
"Noodling way up here" lol !! I love that!
@mightyV444
@mightyV444 3 ай бұрын
...together with "I'm mean-mugging you like crazy that whole time" 😄👍
@Martoon32
@Martoon32 2 ай бұрын
In the bass world the joke is the bass has 2 registers, the high register and the cash register. Playing low is where the money is.
@impulseproman
@impulseproman 2 ай бұрын
Am going to use that term
@mightyV444
@mightyV444 2 ай бұрын
I've recently seen 'basses' that have the low register completely missing! Like, the neck is just cut off where the low register usually starts! 😳 Why not just play a guitar instead?! 😄
@Martoon32
@Martoon32 2 ай бұрын
Be careful what you wish for on a 5 string. If the bassist has bad hand muting technique you'll wonder why all your tunes have a low B drone 🙂 Love your content.
@davidsmith1931
@davidsmith1931 Ай бұрын
you hit nail on the head it's the strings your not playing muting so important
@empiresSR
@empiresSR 3 ай бұрын
If you’re on a 4 string bass, feel free to downtune. I came from a metal context and continued playing in a Drop C tuning for worship music, and being able to hit the C-D# in the low register is so much more important than the notes you lose in the upper register.
@bassiclogic
@bassiclogic 2 ай бұрын
I have been playing bass professionally for over thirty years. I play a Yamaha 6 string for melody playing. I play a NYC Sadowsky 5 string for smooth jazz. I play my custom built 4 string Precision bass more than the others, because most songs do not require low B string. Most all of worship music was written for a 4 string bass. Why would you need a 5 string? I recommend beginner Bass players learn on a 4 string before switching to a 5 string. Some of the best Bass players ever only play a 4 string. Jaco, Stanley, Victor, Marcus and so on.
@rikosborne1212
@rikosborne1212 2 ай бұрын
As somebody who was a church bassist for 22 years, I agree wholeheartedly with your points. While I had the good fortune of playing alongside the same core group of musicians for almost that entire time, my minor misfortune was that that core group did not include a drummer. There were a few good drummers who came along, but it was mostly a string of inexperienced amateurs. The result was that, by default, I became the group's primary timekeeper. It's a good thing that I have a very good innate sense of timing. One of the biggest problems with so many amateur/inexperienced drummers (as I'm sure you've seen) is that tendency to speed up on the "loud" parts and slow down on the "quiet" parts. So it was my job to hold onto the proper tempo, pushing these drummers up when they were dragging, and pulling them back when they were rushing. But a lot of that was very valuable education for me, as a bassist: learning how to adapt my playing to whatever drummer I was paired with. Lesser-skilled drummer who played very simple, straightforward beats? I would take charge of the groove. Creative drummer who comes up with complex rhythmic patterns and fills? I would simplify my own playing so as to avoid "clutter".
@bobbyfinn5406
@bobbyfinn5406 2 ай бұрын
I was on the music team at my church for 20 years, playing guitar. The church got a new "pastor" and it quickly went out the window. We were gone for three years, and in that time I picked up the drums! I was storing a 5 piece kit for a friend, and saw a worship team drummer show me what FUN was all about. I found this channel to show me how to set up the kit, tune the drums and get to work as a drummer. Two and a half years later, the original music team was getting back together, but needed a drummer, not a guitarist. So... I went out on a ledge and gave it a try. It was very shaky for the first few months, I soon settled in to the rush of setting the pocket and have our Pianist/Worship leader smile back at me! I'm all in, boys and girls. My wife shakes her head, seeing her 63 year old husband acting like a 20 year old(when the song is right, of course). I pay a lot of attention to my bassist and watch the pianist. I've learned So much in a short amount of time, and at the same time smiling because I'm not just "air drumming" anymore! BTW... I still wear my Orange Hoodie "MAXIMUM THUMPIFICATION" when it gets cool. Most don't get it, but now I live it! Thanks for EVERYTHING, Rob!!!
@willieelliott352
@willieelliott352 2 ай бұрын
Those are FACTS, really ticks me when guys show up to Rehearsal to Practice 💯
@lornehtaylor
@lornehtaylor 3 ай бұрын
I’m not a drummer, nor a bass player. I’m on the instrument most prone to endless noodling … the electric guitar! Regardless, your “bass” advice resonates and IMHO essential for anyone playing in a band. The groove is a sacred beast! It must be nurtured and cared for by every player in the band.
@DonSandersonDrums
@DonSandersonDrums 3 ай бұрын
Rob, I’m truly blown away by your talents as a musician. I’ve been a drummer who has been involved with ministry for over 30 years as well as a drummer for Walt Disney World for 30 years. I’m very impressed with you and your channel, and I’ll continue to follow you!😊
@BikerEgg1
@BikerEgg1 3 ай бұрын
I agree with your points about making good musical decisions and practice/being prepared. Everything else is pretty much one's own opinion. Sometimes a song needs the bass to stay in the pocket, other times it gives you the freedom to express. Stay groovy.
@Ben-ic1ve
@Ben-ic1ve 3 ай бұрын
As a bassist I agree 100%
@Boethius4748
@Boethius4748 3 ай бұрын
Same. A lot of what he’s saying falls under the “understand your job” category. It should be taught as religion whether it’s a church gig or not
@MidlifeRenaissanceMan
@MidlifeRenaissanceMan 3 ай бұрын
I’m a bass player who impersonates a guitarist. You’ll never catch me playing bass like a frustrated guitarist, but I’ve been busted more than once playing a guitar like a frustrated bass player…. ….this makes me a below average guitarist…..but….what separates me from all the other below average guitarists, is being a bass player, I know when not to play !!! 😉
@mightyV444
@mightyV444 3 ай бұрын
I play both instruments and agree with everything being said in this video! 😀👍
@JarrodJohnson-py2ks
@JarrodJohnson-py2ks 3 ай бұрын
You DO NOT NEED a 5 string bass !
@Boethius4748
@Boethius4748 3 ай бұрын
@@JarrodJohnson-py2ks You’re right, it’s not a ‘need.’ Consider this, tho. If you play in a style where using the extended range is common, and your gig or your band plays that style, wouldn’t it be kind of silly not to use one? I don’t have the opportunity to play modern Gospel, so I don’t know if it’s common. If it is, though…🤷🏻‍♂️?
@perryfisher3373
@perryfisher3373 3 ай бұрын
I’m blessed to be playing with an amazing bassist. IMO he could be playing professionally. I have nicknamed him Metronome because his timing is flawless. I’m responsible for all our AV in church. It is no coincidence he’s right beside me on the platform. Before any asks, the answer is NO, you can’t borrow him.
@gcorriveau6864
@gcorriveau6864 3 ай бұрын
As a drummer who has been guilty of "occasionally" committing Drummer's Faux Pas ... I'd also be interested in a companion video to this: Five Rules for Drummers! - by a bassist. ;-) These are all good tips that apply to all instruments/players in all genres and situations. Thanks for sharing!
@32thedoctor
@32thedoctor 3 ай бұрын
Thank you, Rob for mentioning those things. I couldn't agree with you more. The only thing I would add is that when you practice please use a metronome. I've been playing professionally for 40+ years and I still spend some of my practice time with a metronome. I'm sure it's part of the reason I'm still working.
@mightyV444
@mightyV444 3 ай бұрын
Good point! 😀👍
@matthewbeckwith663
@matthewbeckwith663 3 ай бұрын
I'm a bassist - I need to quite making excuses and make practice with the metronome a routine.
@fierybones
@fierybones 3 ай бұрын
As a bassist, I often think about what I'm playing as a partnership with the kick drum. I provide the pitch and the kick provides the punch. We work together and are nearly 100% in sync. This isn't true all the time, depending on the music, but it's true more often than not. I, btw, totally disagree on the 5 string. A lot of churches either don't have adequate subs to handle notes below low E, or they have a high-pass filter that won't let them through. I play a 5 string a lot of the time, but there are plenty of times 4 is all that's needed.
@syjwg
@syjwg 3 ай бұрын
Leaving spaces and finding notes between the "beats" are also interesting. Ending a partnership with a kick drum can lead to a better rhythm and groove section. You can still be friends in the pocket.
@fierybones
@fierybones 3 ай бұрын
@@syjwg Also truth. It just depends.
@matthewbeckwith663
@matthewbeckwith663 3 ай бұрын
Pitch and Punch - I dig that line of thinking Also agree re: the need for a 5 string bass.
@gregredeker3718
@gregredeker3718 2 ай бұрын
​@@syjwg This. Some of the best grooves in songs use the 1+ + + + pattern, and it's amazing. September uses it at the beginning of each verse, Breakfast by the Newsboys uses it a lot, and Life In The Fast Lane uses it as well.
@johnmckenna1776
@johnmckenna1776 3 ай бұрын
Good words of advice from a working drummer, thanks Rob! I don't understand why these bass players don't have a good teacher or mentor, that can show them the ropes when it comes to the meat & potatoes of bass playing. I'm a drummer myself & I love to watch and listen to great bass players. I remember seeing Jimmy Johnson with Chad Wackerman & Mike Miller live at the Baked Potato. Jimmy played so tastefully and in between each song when time allowed, he was using his inline tuner to check his tuning, he used dynamics well, & never played too loud for the room even though he had the gear to play really loud if he wanted to. When he soloed he always came back to the groove & kept the bottom end all the way through the songs & set list. We all need mentors/teachers to show us the way to really excel on our instruments, as this is the only way to become your very best.
@kevinpaige5746
@kevinpaige5746 2 ай бұрын
Love the book behind you, "Syncopation"! I grew so much as a drummer using that book!
@AnoDynamo99
@AnoDynamo99 3 ай бұрын
Next up on The Browns'tone: 5 rules for drummers. Sincerely, a bass player
@prd004.2
@prd004.2 2 ай бұрын
Oh no… five won’t cut it. I’ve got plenty
@WacoSpiffy
@WacoSpiffy 2 ай бұрын
As a bass player and drummer. Agree!
@AnoDynamo99
@AnoDynamo99 2 ай бұрын
Rob's brother Rich Brown is a great bassist and has a KZbin channel called The Browns'tone.
@michelleinwi6919
@michelleinwi6919 Ай бұрын
Wow I had no idea they were brothers. Their vocal cadence and tone is similar!
@jamesrobertson6255
@jamesrobertson6255 3 ай бұрын
Yes! Great video and reminder for Bass players. I’ve been playing for 56 years, and I love it when the Bass player comes over to groove with me. Nothing like being locked in with a solid bass player, and praising the lord! Guy’s listen to Rob. I love how he always tells it like it is! I play occasionally in a Baptist church that holds a couple hundred people. So, I don’t even mic my kit. Just tuned well, and PLAY the RHYTHM. Practice during the week on your instrument, and know the song beforehand and know it well. When the rhythm section is locked in meaning Bass and drums it’s magic. And if you’re gonna do something out of the ordinary, make sure it’s in time. Don’t noodle to get attention. Remember, you’re playing for one person, the man above! The rest is overflow so to summarize there’s nothing like playing my drums in church with a bass player that is playing the rhythm, on time, knows the song and thus can concentrate on the reason we’re here. Thank you, Rob. You always do a great job and I look forward to your videos. God bless you!
@RobBeatdownBrown
@RobBeatdownBrown 3 ай бұрын
Thanks man 👊🏽
@robertcussins2807
@robertcussins2807 3 ай бұрын
4 vs. 5 strings....hmm, ask Stanley Clarke, Bootsy Collins, Entwistle, McCartney, Geddy Lee, Jaco Pastorius, and, well, bunches of others. I'm not knocking 5 stringers, but 4 seems adequate for a lot of elite players. But I totally agree with what you're saying about bass and drums. Thanks.
@timball1536
@timball1536 3 ай бұрын
If 5 string basses existed when all of those bassists were coming up, I'm pretty sure many of them would be playing 5's. Especially Jaco.
@joshmcdzz6925
@joshmcdzz6925 3 ай бұрын
My upright is 4 string and as a matter of fact, it holds up pretty well..
@timball1536
@timball1536 3 ай бұрын
@@joshmcdzz6925 In which musical style?
@Boethius4748
@Boethius4748 3 ай бұрын
Really just depends on what you’re doing. I have 4s and 5s in the arsenal, fretted and fretless, and which ones come to the gig depends on what the gig is. Style and songs dictate
@bassiclogic
@bassiclogic 2 ай бұрын
@@timball1536 Jaco would have never played a 5 string.
@1fobas
@1fobas 3 ай бұрын
My main instrument is guitar, but I also play piano, bass, and drums, and I've been stopping by Rob's every now and then to get drumming tips, but I took some mental notes here for bass tonight.
@johnmckenna1776
@johnmckenna1776 3 ай бұрын
One idea that will help bass players & drummers, is to have a separate rehearsal with just bass & drums. The bass & the drums working together on the songs, without any distractions will help 100% to improve the rhythm section, and if time permits you can jam afterwards, on things that would help you both to develop better timing, feel, dynamics, interpretation of songs, working on intros and endings...etc!
@matthewbeckwith663
@matthewbeckwith663 3 ай бұрын
YES!! Bassist here - practice time with a drummer is very helpful for the reasons you mention. I don't have many dedicated 1:1 sessions with my drummer, but during band practices, just he and I will run through a section when rythym needs to tighten up. Then the rest of the band jumps in and you can hear the improve.
@johnmckenna1776
@johnmckenna1776 3 ай бұрын
@@matthewbeckwith663 💯👋
@prd004.2
@prd004.2 2 ай бұрын
Almost no drummers can play with bass and drums only… even the “so-called” pros
@matthewbeckwith663
@matthewbeckwith663 3 ай бұрын
Bassist here...this is SPOT ON regarding all points. I watch your channel to learn more about drummers and your perspective, so I REALLY appreciate you taking the time to speak to us directly. I certainly need to be reminded of these things. But hey, leave the P Bass out of this 😋. It's not the P Bass's fault that it produces the perfect low midrange, sweet highs, and it's a simple instrument. Kidding aside, I let the song dictate my choice of bass; your point is well taken. I just had to weigh in as a member of the P Bass cult lol.
@christianheidenreich
@christianheidenreich 2 ай бұрын
Like Nathan East said, every note you play is important. Give importance and meaning to every single note you play.
@stevecrumpton9643
@stevecrumpton9643 2 ай бұрын
Loved this bideo, brother. I'm a bass player whose style is "understated." Can't tell ya how much good it did my heart to hear your take on what a bass player's role is.
@hightolerance2500
@hightolerance2500 2 ай бұрын
Rob must have had that ONE gig that led to the making of this video 😂😂😂
@RobBeatdownBrown
@RobBeatdownBrown 2 ай бұрын
More like one too many 😑
@rossrinkenbaugh4005
@rossrinkenbaugh4005 3 ай бұрын
Right on Rob. I'll have to show this to our bass player. I agree 💯 with ya. As a worship drummer for over 20yrs the sweetest time is when the bass player and I along with a steady bass drum pattern or tribal tom groove get in lock deep in pocket. It's unexplainable but you know it down in your soul. Getting someone in the sanctuary to move without physically touching them goes to show the power of the music. Keep up the great videos Rob👍🥁
@davem4760
@davem4760 2 ай бұрын
An idea for making this more helpful: have a bassist play along with you to demonstrate a good example and a bad example of each of the 5 rules.
@tmaddrummer
@tmaddrummer 2 ай бұрын
On the Seventh Day, God heard what Rob said, and it was good! Peace and Blessings!
@calvinwilds46
@calvinwilds46 2 ай бұрын
Nothing you said do I have a problem with as a bass player for 50 years well said 👏
@kirjian
@kirjian 3 ай бұрын
Rich Brown! Nice to see you on this channel. Oh wait-
@donsanders5833
@donsanders5833 2 ай бұрын
Man, this is the greatest advice ever! Most players think that drummers are one dimensional but you've proved that wrong..this is advice the whole unit can benefit from...thank you for this...yours truly a longtime church bass player!
@derekdauchan2741
@derekdauchan2741 2 ай бұрын
Rob, thanks for pointing out these tips that will make us all better. Couldn't agree with you more. I'd have a great time playing music with you. 👍
@allenmitchell09
@allenmitchell09 3 ай бұрын
I would like to say, as a drummer coming up pre-internet, I was able to borrow a like hot licks type bass vhs that taught me more about drums than any drum video I had watched up to that point. Granted, there wasn't near as much content as now. But, that vhs was Allen Woody from the Allman Brothers, and Gov't Mule. And, he had Matt Abts on drums in the video. I would say check it out as a drummer or bassist.
@zenos.5315
@zenos.5315 2 ай бұрын
Matt is a fantastic drummer,much admiration for his skills.
@BassGtar
@BassGtar Ай бұрын
This is good advice for any style of music
@giannibiancocircus
@giannibiancocircus Ай бұрын
Thanks man. The drummer is brother to the bassman. ✌️
@geoffstokes
@geoffstokes 2 ай бұрын
I play with a really top lead guitarist. He never says anything against playing in the high register. He just encourages me to go for it. As long as I keep the groove timing going
@dougsmith8874
@dougsmith8874 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for the insight... Im a bass player guilty of all of the above ! Forever a process
@roseaucres6088
@roseaucres6088 2 ай бұрын
Great advice!! Especially the part about practising your instrument.
@ebertmahon8939
@ebertmahon8939 Ай бұрын
Thank you for laying out what I call are the fundamental points good bass players should be aware of. Also may I say at times playing for space is a powerful tool as well. WORSHIP IS WORK. Peace and Blessings brother.
@grantrobertdavies
@grantrobertdavies 2 ай бұрын
I think your advice on producing yourself while you’re playing is just AWESOME!!! A great concept, I don’t play live anymore - But if I was to startup again, I’d really be putting that into action :) Thank you :)
@supacrispy
@supacrispy 3 ай бұрын
As a drummer starting out with bass and playing in a band setting with a bass player, I desperately want to share it so my bass player can watch it but I dint wanna call him out.
@RobBeatdownBrown
@RobBeatdownBrown 3 ай бұрын
Call him out!! 🫵🏽😑
@fredericlinden
@fredericlinden 3 ай бұрын
All excellent Points !!!! Practicing and developing the skills and 'taste (...) further.
@derrickgreenwade2261
@derrickgreenwade2261 Ай бұрын
When I was younger my drum teacher told a drummer is like a good host. Leave room for everyone.
@paulmitchell2916
@paulmitchell2916 3 ай бұрын
Played bass from age 12-40.. Finally when I was forty I learned sax and flute.. Now when I play bass I play bass! (usually.)
@aarongreco434
@aarongreco434 2 ай бұрын
I’ve played bass on the worship team at church for 18 years, and I never knew how important that the bass player was until I transitioned to electric guitar. Now when I play bass I’m much more mindful of keeping things solid, and serving the song. The bass is very important, though overlooked a lot of times compared to melody instruments. Great tips in this video. I subbed 👍
@ianthomson9363
@ianthomson9363 2 ай бұрын
I'm a (now semi-retired) bass player with 40 years of gigs behind me and I agree pretty much with everything you said. I played mostly rock covers, but the points you made apply to most genres. I'm a traditional player- it's the song that's important, not the ability as you so eloquently put it, noodling way up here. Why buy a bass if you just want to play up at the dusty end? There are guitars for that. I'd also add another essential thing: learn more songs! Each new song you learn will teach you something. Tone is less vital for basses than guitars- in my experience, nobody (except possibly other bass players!) listens to the bass- as long as it's there, you're doing your job right. My Number One piece of advice is LISTEN! Especially listen to the drummer- if you regularly play with the same drummer, listen to their breaks and fills and learn to recognise them so that when he or she starts one, you can follow what they're doing a play along with it.
@hillblocksview
@hillblocksview 2 ай бұрын
As a *Worship Bassists* I approve of this message! 👍 *Kudos!* 😎
@HermelJaworski
@HermelJaworski 2 ай бұрын
this is great advice, not only for church bass players but for any bassist!
@theholcombes9208
@theholcombes9208 Ай бұрын
Wow... I feel better about myself as a bassist now 🙂 Thanks!
@hubertried19
@hubertried19 3 ай бұрын
“Final advice: practice!” Come on, Rob... you're right on many counts. But by the way: Off the top of my head, I can give all drummers five pieces of advice: 1. Try to count each song at the right tempo, 2. Internalize the form of the songs so that you can play them alone, without a band or backing track, 3. Don't bang your cymbals like crazy if you notice an accent in the music. 4. Listen to your bass player and 5. Look at your bass player, not your feet (or wherever you are looking while staring at the floor). Sincerely, a bass player 🙂
@UnkaDon
@UnkaDon Ай бұрын
Pretty solid advice. One more suggestion. The bass role in a lot of CCM is vocal anchoring as much as rhythm. Let the drummer do the busy stuff. Think of the bass as the walkway of a suspension bridge.
@CharlesTPrimm
@CharlesTPrimm 27 күн бұрын
3:23 is the truth. Jameson set up shop & lived down there.
@Brent_G
@Brent_G 2 ай бұрын
Now if that drummer will establish a consistent kick pattern. :)
@robertbrown3471
@robertbrown3471 2 ай бұрын
As a drummer, I found this video very informative. However, Rob left out a couple very important things that I've experienced with a bass player I played with at church and in a jazz quartet. My bass player had a nasty habit of getting lost during a song and would just STOP playing altogether for sometimes as long as 3 bars. Finally he would find where he was suppose to be and start playing again. He would also get in the habit of completely ignoring me (not getting locked in) and would instead go his own merry way by either pushing the tempo, or in most cases dragging. Instead of getting locked in with the drummer (me), he would focus on staying with the piano or trumpet players. As is quite common, during their solos they would play behind or on top of the note. My head would just about explode everytime he did this. On the two occasions I tried to talk to him about these issues, he would have a temper tantrum, completely shutting me out. Now I always tried to be polite when approaching him on these issues, but no matter, he would have a melt down, refusing to accept responsibility for his poor performance. I finally had had enough and decided to leave both the worship team AND the jazz quartet. While I really do miss playing, I don't miss playing with him. The man is 63 or 64 years of age and dealing with him is like dealing with an impudent, childish 8 year old child. What angers me more than anything is that this guy forced me to give up two things I really enjoyed in life, playing worship music AND jazz music. BTW, I was the one that started the jazz quartet and he forced me to leave because of his childish behavior. WOW, I already feel better getting this off of my chest. And YES Jerry Leonard, I am talking about YOU!!!!!
@pablolachmann7044
@pablolachmann7044 2 ай бұрын
Exactly the same principles I appreciate with good drummers. My favourite drummers I play with have a producer in their head. I try to do that too.
@martinezmailbox
@martinezmailbox 2 ай бұрын
Brother, this was reallly good, thanks for making this video. Great idea expressing your pointg of view as the drummer and how what we do as bassists affects your role in the band and vice versa. 🙏🏼
@sharonsislockwall
@sharonsislockwall Ай бұрын
Thanks Rob! 🤟
@thetista
@thetista 2 ай бұрын
Totally agree with this video and I think it is important to find things that keep motivating you to practice your instrument every day!
@KellySKline
@KellySKline 3 ай бұрын
Alternatively, if you don’t want a 5-string bass, you could string your bass B E A D.
@mattster693
@mattster693 3 ай бұрын
Exactly! You don’t NEED a 5 string bass, they’re cool tho!
@timball1536
@timball1536 3 ай бұрын
E being the lowest string is limiting to the music itself. I agree.
@mariodelosa6326
@mariodelosa6326 Ай бұрын
I have been playing bass since 1972. I play upright, I have played sixes, I still play fives, but for most of the music that I play, the more traditional fours work admirably. Don't get me wrong, I went through a ten-year period during which I played fives exclusively. However, being primarily a rock and blues player, I found that four string basses were more than sufficient for my purposes. You are welcome to disagree, but all you have to do is look at how many high-level bassists still favor P and J basses, or their derivatives, to see what I am talking about. I am not about to give away my fives, and they are still indispensable when I channel my inner Tony Levin, but more often than not I lean towards John Entwhistle, Ray Shulman, or Jack Bruce; cheers!
@scottkasper6378
@scottkasper6378 2 ай бұрын
Maybe your most important video yet
@MrPrincebass99
@MrPrincebass99 2 ай бұрын
Ain't no money past the 9th fret. 😂 Great bass and musical wisdom.
@Jay-fp4ii
@Jay-fp4ii 3 ай бұрын
PREACH.....
@StratBurst92
@StratBurst92 Ай бұрын
All good points, keep the noodling for home practice.
@dalekelly4689
@dalekelly4689 2 ай бұрын
Best tip: Bass players, remember you are on bass - not lead guitar. Groove, pocket, whatever you call it - is job one.
@teddycampbellband2648
@teddycampbellband2648 2 ай бұрын
Great advice bro!!!
@perrymiddleton356
@perrymiddleton356 2 ай бұрын
Great advice… hammer hits the nail on target… that practice thing is a thing for any instrument..
@edjones2199
@edjones2199 3 ай бұрын
As an older experience drummer you nailed it can’t tell you how many bass players just follow the rhythm guitar or the vocals and stomp all over everything no dynamics, etc. It would help if they thought more like a drummer so we can develop a pocket together Bass player can play really simple and be super creative. Listen to some Michael Jackson stuff they’re not doing much man, but they’re hitting that in the right spot. What a pocket that makes good vid bro
@spenceremmons6200
@spenceremmons6200 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate your input, I've been playing since 2009.
@matimbasid
@matimbasid 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for THIS.
@M0NK3Y4U2HUG
@M0NK3Y4U2HUG 2 ай бұрын
Sans a 5-string, a pitch shift pedal is super helpful in my experience. I use one a lot on my modeler when playing both bass and guitar, and gives you a lot of flexibility for transposing if you’re more of a beginner.
@Lord_Hiram
@Lord_Hiram 2 ай бұрын
All solid advice and if I can add one more is that rehearsal is not practice just like he said know your stuff before you get there
@jbulletc
@jbulletc 2 ай бұрын
Don't forget about the opposite of playing high and weak notes during the big moments of the song. It's equally inappropriate to play your big fat low notes during the tender and sensitive moments of the song. That's the time to either stop playing all together or play something melodic in the higher register. Too many bass players assume they're supposed to play the entire time.
@ghosttownreview1531
@ghosttownreview1531 Ай бұрын
4 string tuned down to D standard. Makes all the notes sound more full. Need to go lower than D? Foxrox Octron 3 will take you down an octave and sound exactly like your bass when dialed in right. You can also dial it in to get a convincing synth bass sound.
@drewbailey5231
@drewbailey5231 Ай бұрын
Great stuff.
@GalaxyPrizm
@GalaxyPrizm 3 ай бұрын
It's uncanny how on time this video is
@jasonrobley2109
@jasonrobley2109 2 ай бұрын
Always enjoy a different perspective thats intellegent. Cool as always
@user-be2lj6ir2m
@user-be2lj6ir2m 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great understanding! I play both drums and a beginner Bass player I'll try better. 😊
@mikeshannon9038
@mikeshannon9038 3 ай бұрын
Thank you. As a bassist
@Anthony-tt8pu
@Anthony-tt8pu 2 ай бұрын
Thank you very much sir, great advice God bless you 🙏
@dandabeast202
@dandabeast202 Ай бұрын
Some musicians are confused on their role, sometimes you need to forget the soloing and as you said use your ears, feel what the group is playing and place yourself and your instrument in accordingly
@libertatus
@libertatus 2 ай бұрын
Probably the most important advice you shared was showing up prepared. This tidbit would take care of most of the other deficiencies. Preparation and commitment to the gig and to each other because they have most certainly worked and come prepared as well. The only mild disagreement is with using written music as a reference especially if the song is new and the form isn’t yet established but if the song is one we’ve done for years the my eyes are up and I’m in the moment.
@mavismusic5053
@mavismusic5053 2 ай бұрын
That’s a nice bass you have there drummer.👍🏼 All your points are greenhorn maneuvers.
@carlsmith7095
@carlsmith7095 2 ай бұрын
Excellent points !!! Thank you !!!
@jerrymckenzie1858
@jerrymckenzie1858 3 ай бұрын
God, family, country, TIMING.
@MidlifeRenaissanceMan
@MidlifeRenaissanceMan 3 ай бұрын
If you’ve got timing, God and your family will love you….so will your fellow man
@fathersredeemed
@fathersredeemed 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the advice!!
@aminuabdullahi5922
@aminuabdullahi5922 Ай бұрын
100% on the 5 strings it’s makes life WAY EASIER as a bass player. And heavy on the not tryna be a “star” play with the band not to stand out cuz there’s a time and a place.
@ifount
@ifount 2 ай бұрын
Love this vid, you’re great, but coulda used some examples of what to do vs not to do. Maybe an idea for future would be to collab with a CCM bassist on do’s and don’ts? Maybe you do your top 5 and his/her top 5 (advice for drummers from a bassist). Love your stuff, keep it up!
@grannit1980
@grannit1980 3 ай бұрын
I wish we had any bassist 😟
@Sam76098
@Sam76098 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Rob ❤
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