Wales Canyon Strikes Again! Ford F250 Goes Off Of Cliff!

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Experience a sense of déjà vu as Robby and the crew embark on a new recovery mission in the familiar terrain of Wales Canyon. Discover the challenges posed by the increasingly perilous ice on this stretch of road as they bravely head up to rescue another stranded truck, showcasing the team's expertise in handling treacherous conditions.
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[@chipprice1174]

Robby, I'm an old man and have had some recovery experience. A few things that would help you. 1. Those wheel chocks, since you have that nice plasma table, cut you some "teeth" with the teeth angled towards what you'd be pulling, and weld them to both sides of the chocks, that way it'll bite in and hold better. 2. design you some teeth for the wheel lift, so they would bite in also. Might also wanna heat treat those teeth so they will be harder and not bend and wear out too fast.

[@dcampbell4079]

I came here to say the exact same thing.

[@wynottgivemore9274]

Thanks ,I was gonna say the same ...

[@fleebee3639]

I was thinking maybe 2 sets of chocks for the wheel lift. One set with teeth and the other set with shovel shaped blades in case there's dirt or sand that will help to dig in deeper to hold.

[@davidbeers5949]

Also don't have the chain tight so the truck drags it along leave it loose so that it can drive up on it.

[@gordonmurray3153]

Tbh, imo Casey LaDelle has the principles in place, bases covered, with his Western Star semi and Zaklift setup. A 12,000lb wrecker version imo would probably be ideal for SouthernUtah.

[@calvinh.8882]

Those wheel chocks on the wrecker will work, and work VERY WELL, but you had the chains too short so it was pulling the chocks away from the tires before the tires could get a good bite on them. You have to leave the chains loose enough for the tires to get about halfway onto the wheelchocks. They really do work very well if you use them correctly.

[@corwinchristensen260]

Second that, the teeth on the back of those wedges would hold Fred on even that ice. The chains need to be long enough to let the tire get completely on but not go over.

[@WaltFelix]

Agree, also looked like there are slots on the tail board, where your safety chains are, you can droop the ends of the scotch block chains through those holes and hook them in, leaving a bit of slack. You want Fred's rear tires to roll slightly up on the wedges before the chains grab tight. That puts downward pressure on them for the teeth to bite in.

[@gordonmurray3153]

My wheelramps have holes to allow them to be staked to the ground. Rory carries a land anchor secured to the boom on Trailmater, I've never understood why nobody else thinks to use one where trees are scarce.

[@staceygandy2009]

Yep. Those tire chocks work really good. Just didn't leave enough slack in the chains for the tires to get on the chocks and let them dig in. Enjoy the videos!

[@michaelmcclure8673]

The Boss Demri was making a bad situation look good.❤ Robby don't hurry while doing recoverys, thats how things go over the cliff in a flash. 😮😮😢

[@7aylol487]

30 years of recovery here. The "Ramps" that you tried to use to block the truck didn't do their job because they were used incorrectly. First they are called Scotch Blocks. Second they are used with the vehicles brakes released and transmission in neutral, the reasons why will become clear. here is how to use them properly, one put the scotch block on the ground behind the tires, you did this correctly. next you put the chain through the key hole of the wrecker body with enough chain to allow the tires to roll to the top of the apex. back the vehicle up until the chain goes tight. All of the weight of the tires should be on the blocks, this forces them down biting into the ground. If the ground is soft the Scotch block will sink until it is just a flat plate of steel on the ground. You are ready to pull. there are numerous ways to do a recovery properly. when I first saw you using a snatch block I was expecting you to anchor to a tree on the passenger side of the truck, by doing this you would have halved the force pulling the truck back. also I heard you mention the hydraulic winch having a 12,000lbs pull, usually they are 8,000lbs. Another tip when you went to tie off the front of the truck you could have pull a tree saver around 2 trees with a tow strap connected to them, hook your tie off line to the center of the tow strap, distributing the load between the two trees. I am not saying you did it wrong, I am just trying to expand your tool box. I also read in the comments someone mentioned using a spade on the underreach. I have used two different types of these with reasonable success. the spade usually doesn't dig in deep enough and a lot less down force than the Scotch Blocks. If you decide to try the spade route the best two designs I have used are the ones that you slip over the ends of the cross bar, except that instead of having a wedge sticking out the rear to cradle the tire, you have a small blade sticking straight down and the other was one that wraps around the extending part. It slips around the smaller part, it wedges against the larger part as you pull. it has a pin towards the rear that presses on the smaller extension as a load is put on it.

[@MrCoreyZak]

Booming up wpuld of also helped him, get the back of that truck planted down instead of straight pulling

[@Freedbird]

Colton is a great addition. Always willing to do a job. Listening to Demri, a good idea.

[@jakeporter8476]

Demry is a SMOKESHOW!!!

[@cindymykytiuk4310]

Robbie.. you need to back the truck up on the chucks so the have weight on them and they will dig in instead of being pushed out.. hope this helps

[@deandennis2838]

My thoughts exactly!

[@gproductions9429]

This is the right way!

[@dcampbell4079]

You are right gotta put pressure against them, especially when they don’t have teeth

[@cspurg63]

and raise the under reach.

[@MrPhils1958]

And raise the boom to improve the recovery angle

[@josephmartin6147]

A few recovery tips, The wheel lift shouldn't be used it takes weight off your tires, you need that weight to hold your truck. Secondly the scotch blocks need slack left in chain to allow you to pull the truck on top of them, you shoud have the truck your tow truck in neutral so when you pull back it will pull your truck on top of the scotch blocks. You want your truck pulled right to the top of them to put as much pressure on the spades as possible. Also extending the spades would bite more on thicker ice. Doing recoveries for almost 20 years in Vermont. Also the wrecker would have an 8,000lb winch

[@MrUstrccowboy78]

The wheel lift was never designed to be used as a spade of and sorts. Yes, Miller does make some attachments to help with ice, but that's about the extreme use other than towing it was ever designed for. Also, use the trecker as an added dead man instead of tie your truck off, which I've seen frames fold in half by doing that.

[@michaelmcclure8673]

Why not a 9000 lbs winch ?😊

[@BlazinBill]

I came here to say this. Thank you for saving me from typing all that🍻

[@steveclark4291]

Robby said that the winch is a 12,000lb

[@josephmartin6147]

​@@steveclark4291he says he believes its a 12k winch this an 8k with 3/8 wire rope there is obvious difference from a ramsey 8k to a ramsey 12k winch ive rebuilt both 🤷‍♂️ but hey what do I know

[@JT_70]

Robby, Demri is so doggone attractive and lovable with her pretty smile and her laughs. She’s such an asset to the channel.

[@justinstubbs5922]

You guys turn an simple extraction into a vaudeville act. Great stuff. Very entertaining. Keep it up.

[@richardcarle6204]

Your editor is doing a job with your videos. Keep up the good work.

[@davemalo3674]

You need to carry 3-4 bags of traction sand with you at all times in the winter and outfit you and your crew with slip on ice cleats. I sprained my knees doing the splits on ice ( I was 70 yrs old) and they have never been the same since. Pratfalls are entertaining but dangerous.

[@melsjunk2645]

A few pails of salted sand if available would be great to have with, also a couple shovels.

[@jaynecobb3701]

They had a whole hillside full of traction dirt they could have used, if only they had been prepared enough to bring a shovel.

[@NomadGringo]

Poultry grit works far better than sand.

[@randallsmerna384]

Insane to go out in the winter mountains without chains and a winch.

[@markw.2106]

Hey Robby, Miller Industries makes an "anchor spade kit" for that wheel lift that would anchor you in the snow and ice. There also a weld-on kit called "snake bite", both go on the wheel lift and dig into the ground. Love the show!

[@mars1952]

@13:27 You need to get the truck's weight on the Tire Stopper to make it work. You had the chains set too short so that the Tire Stopper was being dragged ahead of the tire. In the future, back up onto the Tire Stopper and then set the chains. @10:57 when you put down what you called "the foot". You could rig up a quick detach anchor plow on the foot that would dig in sort of like what you have on the skid steer.

[@johnguilfoyle3073]

Robby needs to spend some time watching Casey LaDelle's older videos with his Red Ford Tow Truck. It's quite educational. There are cleats available for the wheel lift bar that will dig into the dirt, snow, or ice to keep the truck stable while using the booms and winches. They also make wheel chocks with cleats for dirt, ice, and snow. Rory is the only one I have seen to have and use a Land Anchor (on Trail Mater). It's odd to see a recovery on an icy hill with no chains or ice cleats on their shoes. It seems like they want to fail or fall for the camera.

[@calvinh.8882]

The Trekker's gearing is the reason it will only run 55mph. Stick a set of 488 gears in it and you'll be able to run in 5th gear and higher speeds, and while you're at it stick Detroit TrueTrac Lockers in the front and rear and that little truck will be MUCH BETTER at everything, and it will go just about anywhere. I've owned 14 of them,

[@davidmahan4160]

You are so right, Demri. If you get radios, get some like Rory with built-in mic and earphones. This will allow you to have use of both hands for safety. 👍 Maybe some ice chains and a land anchor. Great video. I love the content. 😊👍

[@davidalexander4043]

your boss did a great job Robby on this recovery 100% behind you

[@CDNBVR1]

You should also put a spade on the bottom of your wheel lift like Casey LaDelle has on his Ford wrecker.

[@ericm8811]

Hey Robby Layton! You apologize to those trees of power right now! They are not "rinky dink"! Greetings from Vancouver British Columbia Canada! Ride ride ride!

[@j.j.clingman4083]

Robby those tire chokes actually work really well!! I’ve used them for my 1980 Chevy K30 tow truck that I have and haven’t had any issues with them but you definitely have to hook the chains up for them to work properly!!!

[@jodywells7519]

King Fred doing work ! The Boss is gonna have to take charge of these recoveries

[@stephenpoe2037]

And no one was hurt ! Thanks for sharing !

[@Backroad_Junkie]

Oh man, it's *white* outside. And I have to be someplace. Snow, is a four letter word. (See the song of the same name, lol.) At least I don't have mountains around here, lol....

[@moparman1962]

Miss Boss and Robby...Matt and Crew and Paul and Crew swear by their Rugged Radio hands-free headsets to communicate quickly, easily and effectively during recoveries AND when they are wheeling. Get 'em for everyone (cameraman included so he/she can WARN you if they see something since THEY are always watching the action). ;)

[@bradleymadosh911]

I Love the Bosses Laugh 😂 good Job team Layton another job done

[@GabrielShort]

Hey Robbie! Long time fan! I know there's a bunch of people in the comments giving advice and a lot of it is good. I'd just say don't forgot to air down. That F-250 may have been able to move itself once it was back on its feet of you dropped it down to about 15psi. Just my 2-cents, keep up the good work.

[@aarondavis1096]

You guys need to put a spade on the wheel left up on the wrecker to keep it from sliding on you or pulling back. Like Casey Liddell had on his.

[@martycarlson4503]

The tow truck has turned into a valuable addition to the fleet

[@UncleManuel]

"We need to put a trail camera right here!" 😂😂😁😁🤘🤘

[@alfredocarpaneto5976]

Bet you guys will be doing some snow recoveries this week. a LOT of them.

[@kentmckean6795]

You need a spade attachment for your under-reach. It will help to hold the truck in place when winching from the rear. 😉

[@kimetherington2252]

As usual, you guys are rocking the recoveries in your area! Catch you on the next. ✌️ 😊

[@garyfox33]

Another great recovery and yes you guys need rugged radios. Those are called snatch blocks and work very well if setup correctly.

[@arthurbolton8477]

they are wheel chocks, a snatch block is a remote pulley, they had one on the back of the pick up to double the pull

[@R.Sole88109]

Scotch Blocks are what you were thinking of.

[@IdahoPartisan]

Wow.

[@cameronostrup9535]

Gotta lave a bit of slack in the chain for the wedges so the tire gets on them then pulls the chain tight.

[@Joe___R]

Robby, you should consider adding hydraulic steakes to the back of your tow truck. Then all you have to do is lower the steaks into the ground, and you can't be pulled backward. I have seen them on the heavy tow trucks, but they also have outriggers, so they are not used all that often. It would definitely make recoveries easier when you are running solo or don't have anything good to tye to in the front.

[@davestevens4263]

We need snow for the snow bunny ! You got the truck & that's all That matters .

[@xxBlazinBobxx]

17:22 "In the clear" or 'outta the woods." Gotta pick one, Robby. 😁

[@roberthayes6329]

I grew up in the UP of Michigan. My school bus ride was over an hour and the driver was a burley woman and she always had a bucket of ashes to put down on icy spots that the bus could not climb otherwise. We never got stuck, not even once.

[@jonathanreedpike]

Yipes...good thing nobody came around that curve while you were there!

[@bryduhbikeguy]

You Need to make Sleeves with teeth like the guard on the skid-steer to put on the Wheel-lift so it digs in and holds the truck. Happy Birthday to 'The Nephew'.

[@grizphetteplace1427]

Robbie, weld a couple feet of tire chain on the point of your chocks, to park on while winching. Works like a champ!

[@poopingandroid]

@ 5:36 "I still can't believe there's no snow" I was saying that here in Michigan on 1/9/24. Now on 1/14/24 there's 14 inches in the driveway.😢

[@914Rocky]

Just a quick thank you for all the great content.

[@user-ky5rw6tw4s]

You need to back up on those about 4 to 6 inches so they will dig in for them to work

[@rhondasweeney7271]

Awesome recovery 👌 Glad that Hillbilly thought of the wheel chocks!😊

[@wolfgangricky]

Agreed Boss, Matt & Paul both have headset walkies & makes it Much easier for communication. Ty for taking us along

[@saintracheljarodm.holy-kay2560]

Robbie the boss lady says you need talkie walkies instead of yelling. Have a good week and count your blessings amen.

[@byuidad]

Tire chains are your best friend on ice like this. Yes, they are a pain in the, butt putting on and off, but they bite in into the ice.

[@tomg721]

A trail cam would be a wise investment on that corner.

[@kingkonggg6941]

Y'all take the trekker on so many recoveries. That thing is a necessity. Time for y'all to do a video giving her a rebuild and some extra tlc! Love that ole yota!!!

[@murymih]

Thanks for featuring my favourite song from my favourite rock band "Nickelback - Photograph" ~ No 1 fan from Africa, Nairobi Kenya ✌️✌️🇰🇪🇰🇪

[@kentspangler3401]

Sketchy road when there is ice! Good recovery, nothing or no one got hurt! That Toyota was needing some chains(and some upgrades). Good content!

[@stevensmith1278]

Robby might want to build some ice cleats for the wheel lift

[@user-hu1xg8dl4z]

Absolutely love the trail camera idea 😊

[@joegodino7172]

You should have Dory soon. Matt's doing a hell of a job with it!

[@jasonh4167]

Those scotch blocks are suposett be under the tire to work, and when they are used properly they add 30% more traction for winch pulling.

[@Irishdux]

To use those wheel blocks, you have to place them behind the tires, attach the chains to the back of the truck, and then backup onto them, which puts the pressure on the ground.

[@greenbimoon]

Get the headset radios like paul and trailmater, keep your hands free to work. same as having some head torches for night work.

[@randytolle6706]

How about some "Spike Attachments " for Fred's Wheel Lift. They could dig in for stability.

[@jacobycampbell5564]

Love watching your show Robby and team! thank you!

[@cindyrandyfinamore3887]

So... I'll let you in on a neat solution to ice. Shovel sand on the effected area! It works great, it's available and best of all, it's Free!! You just need to carry a shovel. Love you guys!

[@lindawillets]

You guys might look into '' Korkers '' footwear for metal studded boots that also change to a regular rubber sole . We use them in NH/Maine due to a serious fall . Ours are also 100% water proof and super warm !

[@stevanrose7439]

In an old pair of work boots 🥾 I used some 1/4 inch hex head screws in the soles for cleats and they worked great in ice. Just don’t walk in the house on the tile. It will mess it up.

[@carlholland3819]

icebug studded footwear, nokian studded tires

[@grassfolk]

An anchor and trail cams would be a fabulous addition to the corner - maybe don’t tell the internet until you use them 😉

[@ronburbridge2024]

You needed to let the Chaulks pinch into the earth and the truck tire. Doing that holds the truck in place and some teeth on the front ramp edge will help out even more

[@MrJest2]

Yeah; go up to that corner in the spring/summer with a 4'x3" steel round, some shovels, and a bag of cement then plant an anchor point at the peak of that little turn-out area. Everybody will call you a hero for doing it...

[@orlandoberry4031]

I read the comments before watching the clip - I was expecting trouble because everyone was telling you how to do your job. However it went really smooth. Keep doing you. 👍

[@brucea822]

once again, "the Boss" is right on. Radios!!!!!!!!!!

[@robertmyers461]

Hey Robby the weight of the truck has to be sitting on top of the blocks for them to work you had them chained too short for the tires to get on top of them 😊😊😊

[@stephenwhetsell3334]

You should get the digger attachment that Casey Ladell has on his under reach to hold the truck from sliding! Nice job.

[@garypatton9720]

Hillbilly is the coolest! What a great employee and friend.

[@robknoell2364]

We had some triangular wedges on some square tubing that would slide over the square tubing of the wheel lift. When you push the wheel lift down it will dig those triangular spades into the ground. That will also help keep your truck from sliding.

[@Thom1973]

Colton at timestamp 10:03 you have an awesome idea of putting in a Trail Cam right on that corner would be awesome

[@tobiastho9639]

Idea, take a shovel to put some dirt on the ice... maybe do a "burnout" on the side to spray dirt on the road from King Freds position?

[@OpieDogie]

and ANOTHER recovery job well done!!

[@danielduncan7545]

Robby Layton. Build a cleat that fits over the base of your wheel lift, put a long pin through the top of it to attach it to your wheel lift. I had one one my old one ton chevy wrecker.

[@user-vm8uj1zl5q]

Walkie talkie head sets like Trail Mater has is the way to go, handsfree operation.

[@panamint]

King Fred needs some studs on his tires. You should pick up a kit and have Hillbilly put them on 4 tires. They have removable ones you can do it yourself. He could be the Studly King Fred.

[@littleposerfish]

Had the chains too tight on the wheel chocks. They need enough slack for wheels to roll up on them to press them in the ground before chain gets tight.

[@traviswright1402]

Finally we got some snow here in central Alberta Canada.. it’s been rough season but at least I can finally bring out the snowmobile.. hope you can get whisker’s out this season..

[@Cooter91208]

Build a spade to fit into the receiver of your wheel lift. Should be cheap and easy, not sure how well it will work, but worth a try.

[@HandTightGarage]

Robby out here with a water truck making sure he has content.

[@boblister665]

To correctly use the chocks you have leave enough slack in the chains for the truck to roll up onto them with the brake off. When the truck is on the chock and the chain is tight then put you brake on. If you run the winch through the snatch block then anchor the end to a tree or rock the truck only has to hold half the weight, A couple buckets of sand sprinkled on the ice makes things a lot safer too.

[@marvindebot3264]

That is one of those spots I'd wait for a quiet day and bring out an earth auger and a couple of bags of quickest and establish a fixed anchor point or two for future recoveries since these are not going to be the last on that corner. Also, make some spades for the wheel lift.

[@papaarmo5028]

Dude that could be like the bridge that all the trucks hit that has its own channel. Just all day long watching people sliding around that corner.

[@davidbingham7404]

Robby and crew members, great video with the recovery of the Ford truck. Glad you made it to the birthday party in time. How is the wife car coming along??. Thanks for sharing the video. David, Utah. ❤❤❤.

[@curly01969]

Been on that in that canyon and on that road when it is muddy- steep, greasy and treacherous!

[@wink9970]

OS Robby Layton hoodie keeping me warm in snowy Illinois

[@lemans310]

Omg the Colton Hill Billy show is killing me😂😂😂😂

[@SSJIndy]

If there was some loose gravel or dirt around there, you could spread it out on the ice it would provide more traction.

[@wkraemer1957]

Yes, A shovel would be a very useful tool to keep on the truck.

[@kc6nfv746]

You need steal stud tires to grip on the ice check out Morley pond motorcycle race in the frozen Pound Morley Michigan

[@COM70]

❤ well done again for great content. Great job Corey.

[@mrman2862]

Hey Robbie, just a thought for the foot of Fred, to make up a couple claw foot attachments to dig into the ground kind of like the skid steer has to hold in place while running the winch. some steel and your plasma cutter welded together.

[@matthewbarry7026]

let the brake off when using wheel the stopper, so you can get on the ramp.

[@marksteele8272]

You need to make a cleat to go on the bottom of the wheel lift so that you can anchor it in the ground to keep from getting pulled backwards.

[@matty2helpfull]

One thing you could do is leave some slack in the chains and back the truck up onto the chocks till the chains tighten up then you for sure have weight on them but nice job on the recovery ❤❤❤

[@harry503]

You need a get home bags and in winter keep Yaktrax ice cleats, warm hat/gloves, gortex gaiters, + normal 72 hour bag stuff

[@mikesheahan6906]

Central Wisconsin finally got some snow today, about 10", and we are expecting below zero temps next week too. I take full blame for mentioning it in the comments of your last video.

[@rustyiron]

you need to put up a sign >Welcome to "King Fred Curve" you won't be first but you could be next, call Layton Recovery< The loose gravel and sand where you winched from would have helped.