Survivor Top 40 Countdown #24 - Survivor: All-Stars

[@MapleJames76]

I really enjoy when Rob speaks about his time on the show, as he is very humble and doesn't blow his own horn (unlike other players). So when we get to hear some Survivor nuggets, we have to treasure them :)

[@kazamafraz]

idk why but I had a dumb giddy smile when rob started talking about his experience on the season lmao

[@TheMurrmursonbottle]

I like how half of this video ends up being a therapy session for rob

[@worthplayingfor2197]

yea lol he seems a bit upset

[@XeaRae]

@@nickp3949 I’m guessing that there is two layers to it. First being publicly labeled as lazy and non-masculine enough by an alpha male of a tribe. So that becoming your reputation with everyone who spots you on the street. Second being being on an outs of a group/scapegoated by the group where you are desperatly trying to fit in with. The second one being probably just a tip of an iceberg of a larger unhealed abandonment wound from the childhood. As he says, he was doing beat he could at any given moment but was continusly dubbed as not good enough.

[@highheartwellness]

While it was a bitter and angry jury, Kathy's FTC speech was accurate, "it's been a devilish game, but I think you could of taken a parallel course"

[@Bizzybanks24]

Sure a parallel course that would’ve been good for Kathy and not Rob

[@paulieluce5303]

Shii-Ann’s immunity win is my favorite ❤️

[@Romans8-9]

Ugh. Shi-ann was beyond annoying that episode.

[@nicole_w_s]

I love Shannon hyping up rob and that he was too much of a threat

[@jmoney2196]

I had this season ranked #18. This was the first full season of Survivor I ever watched. I didn't think this season was that bad. Early on, I thought it was interesting seeing how everyone could operate with so little provided to them. I thought some of the early votes were alright, despite a lot of early legendary players going early. The Jenna and Sue quits really kinda halted the season as far as its momentum was concerned, but I thought a lot of the other boots in the pre-merge were solid. For me, the biggest thing about this season is the Rob and Amber story, and how it evolves as the season goes on, and when it hits that confrontation with the deal with Lex, that's where this season somewhat climaxes. I thought those two episodes were probably the biggest ones of the season. Even down the stretch, just watching how Rob maneuvers every obstacle in his way to get him and Amber to the final 2 is quite impressive. Getting Rupert and Tom to fight was great in my opinion, and I wasn't too surprised most of the jury was upset. If I lost my 2nd chance at $1 Million, I'd be upset too if I was Lex, Tom, or Alicia. Rob definitely got humbled in a humiliating at the final tribal council, which led to Amber winning the game. Overall, the story of those two is what makes this season, and I don't think this story can ever be replicated on Survivor or Big Brother, and that's why I have it ranked higher than most people would think.

[@matthewh7085]

Lol I never get tired of Rob ragging on his edit in All Stars. These season breakdowns are great 👍

[@baileyolde7302]

Rob spilling T about Boston Rob and Amber was the best part of this

[@entertainmentunlimited3865]

Amber voted for Colby in Australian Outback!

[@entertainmentunlimited3865]

Shannon, It was a memorable moment. However, I do agree with you about Jeff asking everyone what they would do if they were in Jenna's shoes. That said, Jenna's leaving was one of the most memorable moments. Just for the saddest and the wrongest of reasons.

[@huhaccuratemhm5260]

this is just a foreshadowing for how the amazon podcast will be lol

[@matthewh7085]

You know its gonna be a 10 hour podcast

[@iliveinsnookispoof]

can't believe no one said Shii zAnn when Rob compared her to Troyzan lmao

[@Dylanpc98]

Probably the most important season in terms of my love of the game. My parents were huge fans at the time, we had watch parties every Thursday night. I was only five at the time but watched every episode, loved it all!

[@JacobElyachar]

All-Stars is one of my all-time favorite Survivor seasons! You had so many of the OG legends in one season together! I wished Rob C stayed a little bit longer.

[@klassicalmuzik]

Jenna Lewis shouldn’t have been on All Stars. It would have been a better season if Kelly Goldsmith, Neleh, or Chrissy was on the show instead.

[@worthplayingfor2197]

59:15 who is he talking about? I thought it was a billy and Candice joke but he said final tribal council

[@RealityLionEntertainment]

I think he was talking about when the guy for redemption island proposed to the girl from Tocantins

[@RowingFrontal5]

In the reunion episode Rob C said he got a girlfriend or something like that because of survivor.

[@TMProofreader]

Are you saying Survivor All-Stars is No. 24?

[@davidlevy2631]

This was the most iconic season

[@KyleB-o5c]

Episode 4 😏1:49:30

[@lukemckenzie3964]

Anyone know where to find this “after show”

[@thomascawley7056]

Totally agree with Shannon that Lex keeping Amber wasn’t crazy, the final 5 she pitched to him made some good sense. Voting out Colby and Ethan to leave himself as by far the biggest target was disastrous

[@ivolcanic4401]

The biggest thing about the swap is that Jerri didn't get swap screwed, they tried to nerf Rob by trying to get rid of Amber, but they prevailed. That's why Rob ultimately lost, because he made a final 2 deal with Alicia in case Amber didn't make it back.

[@andrearamirez-js4cf]

I always enjoy all stars but the episode where Sue quits is missing on Hulu so maybe it’s because I’m missing that darkness

[@mattcurran2596]

I have this season towards the bottom. It is a disappointing season bc the cast is so good but the gameplay is so boring/frustrating. There is also a lot of negativity. Not much here unless you are a Boston Ramber fangirl haha. Cesternino is a highlight though.

[@gqprince2]

Call me a fan person lol.

[@randomer5555]

All-Stars is one of my least favourite seasons. The winners and the other big stars were voted out purely because they had a big reputation. It's frustrating that the winners had zero chance of winning the game. The season quickly becomes a boring slog after the actual 'stars' are voted out, with the lesser-known characters dominating the game. The sexual assault scandal is tough to watch and the Lex-BRob situation feels very nasty and personal due to how these cast members knew each other from outside the game. Most of the All-Stars tarnished their reputations here. One of the few to improve their reputation was Amber, and I don't find her to be an interesting character in this season. Even someone like Rupert, who was great on his first season, comes across as sour and miserable this time around. The season is fun for the first few episodes but the charm of seeing returnees quickly wears off. It is very dark, boring and uncomfortable to watch. I can't think of a single highlight from the post-merge, besides Shii-Ann winning immunity, but that is only a fun moment because it breaks up the monotony. All-Stars ended up being a huge detriment to the Survivor franchise at the time and they had to do a total 'reset' afterwards, focussing on new cast members to re-create the franchise. It's a season I will never revisit and I hope I can scrub it from my memory so that I can remember the All-Stars as they were on their original seasons.

[@mikligardur9104]

Where can i see the list from 40 to 24.?

[@shelbang5533]

Loved the podcast and getting to hear Rob’s commentary. The season was a gag fest from the obvious pro BRob edit and his #1 fan JP (barf) to the icky reunion. And Jeff bringing up the “in the game, out of the game” BS AGAIN in America’s Tribal Council. Goodbye to you, All Stars.

[@ch3rrywave]

How the hell did Big Tom not know what country he spent a month living in

[@RyokoAsakuraLastFan]

I think Shii Ann, Alisha, Jerri and Rob are likely to return

[@lucaslupinski8771]

not Alecia

[@sonicplushycentral]

I dont see Alicia and Shii Ann, as much as i like Shii Ann i know Jeff and Mark has a detestment of Survivor: Thailand, not her fault but i dont see it happening

[@sadieteawalsh]

The gameplay might’ve been good, but this season was too uncomfortable for me to enjoy. The Hatch/Hawk incident, the bitterness of the jury, and Amber winning because she’s less skeevy than Rob. Shii-Ann was definitely my favorite of the season.

[@noahdesrosiers3238]

This season would be better if the jury hadn’t been so bitter imo

[@stevenvegh7964]

The brutal nature of the final tribal actually made it great TV.

[@Bluerock121]

That’s on Rob for making the jury bitter

[@gqprince2]

This is one of my favorite seasons. Rob rubert still gives rob his vote. 1 one he said he would two he doesn't actually like jenna that much.

[@flu3b93]

Best season ever

[@iddiolgames]

Personal: Nicaragua

[@worthplayingfor2197]

i dont like how the person talking gets bigger on the screen. i like when all of them are equal sized

[@worthplayingfor2197]

oh it was only for the first few minutes nvm

[@jeremykrause9443]

I really did not like Lex at all so when Rob played him and voted him out that was one of my favorite moments ever in Survivor.

[@justinpascal8332]

How is Borneo so high

[@sonicplushycentral]

Borneo is my favourite season, i get why people find it boring and slow, but its the most important season and it was so groundbreaking. It should be top 15 no matter what. It ranked #13 on this list which makes sense.

[@justinpascal8332]

@@sonicplushycentral I get no notgia from it because I started watching survivor a couple wheats ago

[@sonicplushycentral]

@@justinpascal8332 thats probably why you dont like it, its not a good season to start on.

[@justinpascal8332]

@@sonicplushycentral I didn’t start with it I watched Samoa and HHH before it

[@sonicplushycentral]

@@justinpascal8332 Exactly, its not one of the ONES you should start with

[@Miumiu0404]

I'm actually quite surprised Blood vs Water hasn't appeared yet. I didn't quite fully enjoyed that season. The only episode I liked from that season was when Hayden was able to turn Ciera to his side and they all drew rocks in the tribal. lol

[@worthplayingfor2197]

@@stroyer2103 bvw is kinda ass tbh

[@TheMurrmursonbottle]

I’m pretty sure BvW ranked around 9th when they did the poll in 2015. It probably hasn’t aged too bad, since Tyson is still beloved, Ciera came back for another standout stint in Cambodia and she basically changed the game singlehandedly, and it’s still remembered as the only goody redemption island season. The only modern seasons rn at probably surpass it in the rankings are DvG and MvGX, maybe Cambodia but I know there’s a growing anti-Cambodia sentiment because people think it’s too game botty, maybe WaW depending on how the masses feel about it

[@philbox3productions]

@@worthplayingfor2197 I'm with you on that I think both aren't great and it's mostly due to the theme really restricting gameplay and the drama it creates isn't anything special and comes off more annoying then anything (I couldn't tell you the amount of times I rolled my eyes any time Jaclyn and Jon argued on SJDS)

[@lunar5942]

Both BvW seasons are pretty good for different reasons imo, I'd put them both in the top 20

[@mattbarr222]

BvW is the only season I gave up watching halfway through. If Cagayan hadn't revitalised the franchise, I might have given up entirely. It's not the worst season, but it's a slog with very flat characters and Redemption Island slowing the game to a crawl.

[@SirChristopher365]

Thought: Rob and Dreamz both famously reneged on a deal with another player (one that was made rather publicly, in front of all the other contestants), yet are viewed quite differently by the audience for their decisions...... Hmm..... why is that? Hmm.....

[@Rps2800]

I know what you’re getting at, and there might be something to it, but I also think there were some other factors. The jurors I think were equally mad at them, it’s just that Rob was sitting next to Amber at the end who was also a part of it, meaning Rob ended up getting votes. Also, I’m not sure how popular Lex was at the time since I wasn’t watching, but I think that some people weren’t fans of his, whereas I don’t think anyone really hated Yau-Man, so it hurt more to see him get betrayed

[@Romans8-9]

That is so ridiculous and a terrible false equivalence. Dreamz' betrayal involved accepting a brand new vehicle for his vote which he got to keep. Yauman was also given a heroic edit as the older harmless gentleman and was well liked by the audience. He was voted most popular player of the season. Lex came across as whiny and a sore loser as did Kathy, which is why Rob was way less vilified.

[@SirChristopher365]

@@Romans8-9 The key phrases in your reply are "was given a heroic edit" and "came across as". In other words, the audience perceived Yau-Man differently than they did Kathy and Lex. You're actually proving my point for me. In countless interviews since Fiji, Yau-Man and the rest of the F6 have gone on to state that they all planned to give Dreamz the truck. Yau just tried to milk that moment to his own strategic benefit in the game, and has also said he didn't want the truck anyways, because of the taxes. In other words, Yau was no more magnanimous than anyone else playing Survivor; we in the audience, at the time, just believed he was because we were star-struck.

[@SirChristopher365]

@@Romans8-9 So what, exactly, is the terrible false equivalence?

[@Romans8-9]

@@SirChristopher365 I explained 3 years ago in my comment why it was and am not going to get into a tit for tat, retreading the same ground. Have a nice day though!

[@SirChristopher365]

This is ranked FAR too low at #24..... I think I did a full ranking of my own last summer, and it was Top 3 for me..... might have even had it at #2, next to Pearl Islands. Sure, it's a shame that Rob went out early, and the predictability of the post-merge Pagong-ing, but it has such an iconic cast, compelling drama, and fantastic physical challenges. What more do you really need from a good Survivor season, in any era?

[@markozbunjol625]

Agree, to me All Stars is best season. Why? Because is thougest, most dirty survival i ever see. I don't care for shitty new season and oh do not came to me and said that new season from 20. to 40. is best strategist because to me is not. Why? Because older season is thougher and do not have Immunizty Idol. Yes, i understand that season with ID is more atractive but being atractive is not being the best. Best serason is with NO immunity idol. Why? Because people have much better stragety, social game then new gamers. New Survivor is way overrated. I mean, look at All Stars. Look at weather, challenges, players. Survivor then is like little family and that's why All Stars is hated season because msot of them is friends and when Robfather stab in back manny players then becaem though. Brilliant season, best ever. Seeing Robfather how he is playing against other all stars without immunity idol i never seen that great game by any other survivor player. People say that RI is best Robfather and ok, is really perfect game but Robfather in All Stars is most cutthroat game ever played by any player in survivor WITHOUT ID much harder.

[@chingading957]

25:07 Contractually obligated butts? What??? Is there a source for this. That seems absurd and demeaning.

[@eagerturtle4791]

It's a joke lol

[@TheGamerGirl2330]

Amber is ranked too high just like the season itself!

[@zachfolino6908]

First :)

[@ahojjajsemmichal4876]

Firnd

[@MusicNerdDavid]

Fird

[@torycrosgrove2542]

Firth

[@wierdoben14]

@@torycrosgrove2542 Colin Firth?

[@MusicNerdDavid]

@@wierdoben14 you ruined it smh

[@Bdgbdg7]

Palau is WAY TOO HIGH

[@johnnycrash4892]

Not its not, theres like 4 american heroes on that season

[@Bdgbdg7]

@@johnnycrash4892 and yet... it’s still a boring slog the whole way through. Tom played a less-challenging version of Boston Rob’s game in redemption island... thankfully it was still much more entertaining than that. One-sided seasons are rarely entertaining. I find Palau to be incredibly boring, and I have it in the bottom 10. 🤷‍♂️. I have nothing against anyone in the cast and do enjoy the arc of stephenie that season... but it really dragged for me

[@Bdgbdg7]

Though maybe I should give a rewatch a try... I have only seen it once. I can remember many koror tribe names which is usually a good sign. I’m curious about your 4 heroes... people loved stephenie and Tom... is Ian a third probably? Who is the fourth?

[@Bdgbdg7]

But again, I tend to enjoy messiness and drama and entertainment and chaos more than solid, basic gameplay and a match to the end, regardless of whether the people marching are likable.

[@mikligardur9104]

The higher the better as Palau is one of my favotite season.