Robert Schumann - Violin Sonata No. 2, Op. 121 (1851)

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Bartje Bartmans

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@tiguras
@tiguras 7 жыл бұрын
13:08 17:41 24:00
@brandonmacey964
@brandonmacey964 Жыл бұрын
You're a hero
@oliveiramgp
@oliveiramgp 4 жыл бұрын
It is the best violin sonata and one of the greatest instrumental dialogues ever written. I bought a vynil in the 80s with Kremer and Argerich playing it. I even wanted to start learning violin because of this magnificent masterpiece. You can truly hear a conversation without words in it.
@2ysur
@2ysur 4 жыл бұрын
Me, too. It resurrected my interest in the violin after 40 years of not playing. It's a bit harder, but if I can play even 1/3 of this piece I will consider it a success.
@AlejandroSanAntonio
@AlejandroSanAntonio Жыл бұрын
First time listening to this. Amazing. Thank you.
@johnryskamp7755
@johnryskamp7755 3 жыл бұрын
Schumann's best composition, showing him as a muscle-flexing compositional virtuoso.
@gerardbegni2806
@gerardbegni2806 7 жыл бұрын
Schumann wrote three sonatas for violin and piano, the third one having been discarded by Clara, Brahms and Joachim and exhumed recently. The first one op. 105 is in my opinion a masterwork, but Schumann seemed not to be happy with it, so he wrote this impressive second sonata in d minor. This sonata shows how stupid it is to despise the last compositions by Schumann, who was depressive and ill at that time. This sonata has the strength of the first opus of the composer. Indeed, this is one of the greatest sonatas for violn and piano ever written.
@joshscores3360
@joshscores3360 6 жыл бұрын
No, the 3rd violin sonata (woo 2) still survives.
@joshscores3360
@joshscores3360 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for fixing
@Piero1809
@Piero1809 4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you. The first movement is extraordinary and resembles that of the first trio opus 63.
@gerardbegni2806
@gerardbegni2806 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshscores3360 I know, you can even hear a beatiful version of this sonata on "KZbin", posted by Bartje Bartmans . This is why I wrote " the third one having been discarded by Clara, Brahms and Joachim and exhumed recently".
@gerardbegni2806
@gerardbegni2806 4 жыл бұрын
@@Piero1809 You are fully right. This trio is also an absolute masterwork. The whole chamber music of Schumann deserves to be known. It is a pity that most music lovers know only the piano quintet - indeed a masterpiece of the genre, the greatest one with Franck's. Listen to the piano quartet: it is also an absolute masterpiece, in my modest opinion greater than Brahms', and equal only to the two by Mozart and Fauré's second one op. 45.
@TimondeNood
@TimondeNood 7 жыл бұрын
Great work and performance! I particularly love the third movement.
@鶴丸紀子-f5e
@鶴丸紀子-f5e 3 жыл бұрын
@harryandruschak2843
@harryandruschak2843 8 жыл бұрын
I can assure you that none of these three violin sonatas gets played much on our local classical music stations. Such stations have a bias against chamber music anyhow, it seems to me.
@kevinmauch5622
@kevinmauch5622 7 жыл бұрын
i heard this just this evening on KBACH in Phoenix AZ...a great station...you can listen online...
@harryandruschak2843
@harryandruschak2843 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip :)
@Unitedsates
@Unitedsates 2 жыл бұрын
Bartmans does the best performance I have heard of the Third and I think now of the Second also. Truly wonderful.
@johnryskamp2943
@johnryskamp2943 2 жыл бұрын
An unusual performance of Schumann's best work. Some pauses thrown in, and a lot of dynamics thrown out, but still interesting. This composition above all of his, shows him as the compositional virtuoso he was.
@mosaicclassics
@mosaicclassics 9 жыл бұрын
Passionate! So this was written near the end of his life. Why are the true greats subject to such devastation?
@btat16
@btat16 7 жыл бұрын
Mosaic Classics Maybe it is the other way around. Maybe devastation is the cause of true greatness. It's sad to think that genius requires sacrifice but that seems to be the case with many greats.
@Adi_Ivgi
@Adi_Ivgi 3 жыл бұрын
9:04 Anyone else getting Piazzolla vibes from this?
@johnryskamp2943
@johnryskamp2943 2 жыл бұрын
You ruined the whole thing for me!
@satoshionoe2539
@satoshionoe2539 Жыл бұрын
Is it a common chord progression that many composers use?
@retrops4261
@retrops4261 6 жыл бұрын
The opening to the second movement Scherzo is extremely Brahmsian, or should I say I see where Brahms got his inspiration for lively syncopated triplet figures (and penchant for unusual harmonic transitions.) The rich long lines that Brahms became known for are also seen in the contemplative third movement. (I notice these things well as I'm currently studying the Sonatansatz.). The more I hear of this piece, I'm actually kind of convinced this piece must have influenced Brahms for the finale in his own D minor sonata, the meter and resulting rhythm is totally different, but there are striking harmonic similarities. Dmin, E7 amaj cadence, pause then back to dmin then immediate B-flatmaj (this last change: d-min B-flat happens in the Scherzo of Brahms Famous B-flat piano concerto as well) Also there are the same abrupt pauses led to by dramatic harmonic changes seen throughout this finale especially, that are probably the single easiest way to ID a Brahms composition. Anyway, please, share this work to all your classical music appreciating friends, it is a masterpiece!! Edit: I just realized also, that playful figure in the last minute including the light piano accompaniment provides the same feel and effect as a similar figure at the close of Grieg's second violin sonata (composed 16 years later!) although in that piece the figure is triplets.
@johnryskamp2943
@johnryskamp2943 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, the work this piece influenced the Op. 60, a work which, by the way, also shows Brahms as a compositional virtuoso.
@robertbairdmusic
@robertbairdmusic 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for posting; really wonderful stuff!
@Ignaciapin
@Ignaciapin 2 жыл бұрын
Desde que fuí al conciertode aspiracion de Schumann esta sonata me pareció EXTRAORDINARIA
@파란석류
@파란석류 2 жыл бұрын
가을의 끝에서 봄 햇살을 만나는 느낌! 참 좋다.
@MrGer2295
@MrGer2295 7 жыл бұрын
Splendid performance ! Thank you so much :)
@filosoforvgsapereaude5020
@filosoforvgsapereaude5020 3 жыл бұрын
Las sonatas para violín de Schumann son de un gran valor estético tienen un mensaje hacia lo alto del ser humano y me revelan el carácter suave y enérgico de este gran compositor
@ChryslerPhantom
@ChryslerPhantom Жыл бұрын
Completamente de acuerdo
@adanayup9268
@adanayup9268 8 жыл бұрын
No había tenido la oportunidad de escuchar es una genialidad..
@ChryslerPhantom
@ChryslerPhantom Жыл бұрын
Exacto, una genialidad
@snowcarriagechengcheng-hun3454
@snowcarriagechengcheng-hun3454 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading!
@claireposse1698
@claireposse1698 3 жыл бұрын
en suivant la partition j'ai Impression de savoir jouer du violon et avec quel brio!
@matteogenerani5097
@matteogenerani5097 4 жыл бұрын
Will Ravel take inspiration for his Blues from Schumann’s third movement of this sonata? (17:41)
@matteogenerani5097
@matteogenerani5097 4 жыл бұрын
Ravel’s second violin sonata link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXfFl5mpndCoZs0 Go to 7:57 of the Ravel, to compare
@Steinwaytoday
@Steinwaytoday 4 жыл бұрын
I think Ravel probably was just inspired by actual blues guitar, but it's a cool coincidence since it's the exact same voicing and in the same key!
@marcosviniciosribeirocompo1137
@marcosviniciosribeirocompo1137 7 жыл бұрын
8:21 - 10:27...Schumann invented the TANGO, In the first movement !!!!
@retrops4261
@retrops4261 6 жыл бұрын
Marcos Vinicios Ribeiro yes, especially those runs from "9:06"- "9:13" in the violin, and the angular rhythm and harmony created by using the major 7ths in the piano there makes the music sound more like Astor Piazola, or improv between Grappelli and Rheinhardt than Schumann. I'm shocked this piece is not well known. It definitely stands on it's own with the 2 other great D minor violin sonatas (Brahms and Saint-Saens). I can't think of any others in the same key. Amazing writing, don't great things often come In threes, what's wrong with people this got snubbed for so long.
@rohailakhire2511
@rohailakhire2511 8 жыл бұрын
love it
@mugiwaraace966
@mugiwaraace966 8 жыл бұрын
Very Well!!!!!Schumann is fantastic!!!Who dislikes this sonata is a stupid
@RenardTaquin
@RenardTaquin 5 жыл бұрын
Well, you can love this sonata and dislike the pianist's performance - especially in the first movement. I wouldn't call it stupid, then. That being said, being a Schumann interpret's being so damn hard - he has such a specific style - that I wouldn't dislike it, just for that reason. Plus the violinist's renders well the intimate style of Schumann's chamber music, so it kinda compensates. But agreeing with you on the fact that this sonata is absolutely gorgeous !
@petermerelis
@petermerelis 3 жыл бұрын
well said
@shanshanw4913
@shanshanw4913 7 жыл бұрын
The best.
@solstice871
@solstice871 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent performance and a seriously underrated violin sonata; however, I have just one thing to complain about. In the third movement, the pizzicatos are way too separated. Not separated as in not legato, but the notes of one chord are not plucked in unison, creating no harmony and making it sound not beautiful at all.
@jonasdaverio9369
@jonasdaverio9369 6 жыл бұрын
Which pizzicatos?
@debwagner7505
@debwagner7505 4 жыл бұрын
Sol Kim "Separated" = arpeggiated. Mandolin style. A legitimate choice, if not to everyone's taste. 😊
@claudiaochoacruz
@claudiaochoacruz 2 жыл бұрын
Bellísimo!!
@leonardobarba5304
@leonardobarba5304 2 жыл бұрын
I'd never heard this sonata, it's full of mesmerizing melodies!
@GreenTeaViewer
@GreenTeaViewer 10 күн бұрын
Are you sure?
@whatafreakinusername
@whatafreakinusername 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting that the piece ends on a suspended chord, how often is that found in music from this time? EDIT: Meant inverted chord
@SpaghettiToaster
@SpaghettiToaster 4 жыл бұрын
It doesn't, but it does end on a chord in second inversion, which is indeed unusual.
@hghg2185
@hghg2185 4 жыл бұрын
The D bass is obviously held with the pedal
@whatafreakinusername
@whatafreakinusername 4 жыл бұрын
@@hghg2185 I'm talking from a musical standpoint, not technical
@hghg2185
@hghg2185 4 жыл бұрын
ThaSchwab musically, the D remains. Schumann had notoriously written things that weren’t always logical but in his head made sense.
@nicholasfox966
@nicholasfox966 3 жыл бұрын
It is an ambiguous situation, because from a pure analysis, it does not end with an inverted harmony: the D in the bass from the first and second beats sustains through with the pedal. You might say that he is thinking orchestrally--the basses and cellos and bassoons are holding that low D, while another chunk of the orchestra plays the "inverted" chord above it. However, you are right in observing that in real time, it can be difficult to ascertain this distinction. Because the low D will already be decaying in sound (even with the pedal), it will sound as though the piece suddenly finishes with an inverted harmony, even if it actually isn't. You might say it's the difference between a harmony and a sonority: strictly speaking, the piece ends with a HARMONY that is a tonic in root position (conventional), but at the same time ends with a SONORITY that suggests a tonic in second inversion (unconventional). Yet another of the million fascinating things about Schumann's visionary approach to composition.
@amvalkyrie6496
@amvalkyrie6496 Жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me why they are playing a D sharp at 15:10?
@maratgubaidullin7788
@maratgubaidullin7788 Жыл бұрын
Variations on selected works by Brahms :)
@calebhu6383
@calebhu6383 4 жыл бұрын
19:50
@saruqara3725
@saruqara3725 4 жыл бұрын
14:05 - Tchaikovsky
@johnryskamp7755
@johnryskamp7755 3 жыл бұрын
By the way, try the Faust perforrmance.
@juanvicentezerpa7250
@juanvicentezerpa7250 5 жыл бұрын
How can you put ads in this video?
@bartjebartmans
@bartjebartmans 5 жыл бұрын
KZbin puts those in. Not me. How could I, I don't own the copyright obviously.
@steveegallo3384
@steveegallo3384 4 жыл бұрын
Juan Zerpa -- There is NO Free Lunch, pendejo....PAY the 2 bucks....or else get that anti-ad program......
@moonjunsu
@moonjunsu 6 жыл бұрын
좋다..
@lucaslau8379
@lucaslau8379 7 жыл бұрын
unsatisfactory & lament of Schumann
@steveegallo3384
@steveegallo3384 4 жыл бұрын
@@marensavino -- No reason. This happens every time that Mahler Maniac starts breaking his Prozacs in half....he starts to suppurate with gratuitous malice......
@johnryskamp2943
@johnryskamp2943 2 жыл бұрын
Don't criticize Mahler! He admired Chabrier!
@bernardthebault9168
@bernardthebault9168 7 жыл бұрын
Mozart le Magicien ###
@hectorberlioz1449
@hectorberlioz1449 9 ай бұрын
This is a very strange interpretation of this masterpiece, with totally wrong phrasing and peculiar accents which sounds very unmusical! Both violinsonates of Schumann are the work of a genius. The best ever recording on disc of both sonates are with Christian Ferras and Pierre Barbizet on DG. These accounts were never surpassed and the only one who got out the ' Leidenschaft', which belongs to Schumann. I would also like to mention for the first sonata Perlman and Argerich on EMI.
@bartjebartmans
@bartjebartmans 9 ай бұрын
I upload works which are available to me. If I for every single one of my 2000 videos have to search for the "best" performance my channel wouldn't exist. Some recordings are eccentric and a bit off the beaten path which also has appeal to me. BTW there are plenty of videos I think are in a league by themselves but you can bet on it some won't like them. Thanks for you comment though, I especially love Ferras performance of Sibelius Violin Concerto I was thinking about that for a near future project.
@hectorberlioz1449
@hectorberlioz1449 9 ай бұрын
@@bartjebartmans Thanks for the very sympathetic reaction !
@tarikeld11
@tarikeld11 4 жыл бұрын
"Pretty slow"? That's played very fast!
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