CitizenCon 2954: Crafting Your Home

[@Spumoon]

Populating these beautiful, procedurally generated planets with player bases is a stroke of genius. My favorite thing to do is live out of my ship and fill it with things, camp, this is perfect!

[@feeposlug]

yes thats all they are good at, coming up with and selling ideas. Implementation and usage? Haha yeah good luck

[@tobytoxd]

@@feeposlug and you are good at commenting while having no clue about the engineering of this "implementation". people love this sandbox because its truly unique. you can go on crying or start enjoying. i hope you have a decent pc. and maybe you were just unlucky with your servers. game runs pretty good for its scale and physics sim.

[@angrychef9693]

and then you explode mid air and everything is lost due to a bug, again and again and again. cause thats the state of this game for years

[@angrychef9693]

@@tobytoxd runs good? you on meth or something? there wasnt a single day in this games life where it ran halfway decent.

[@moebeans72]

@@angrychef9693 Too cost inefficient to constantly bug fix atm. Would you rather a buggy game for a while or no game?

[@forgottenerror]

So cool. This feels like it's going to add a survival feel to the game. I'M SO EXITED!!!

[@Prophitman8]

it should make it so you can really survive without having to go back to a space station for food water fuel etc. lol can't wait

[@tiotito31]

Please craft a release date.

[@jonahhekmatyar]

What good would that do?

[@Mellomoons]

Lol

[@CBadger]

Buy more ships. That'll speed up development exponentially.

[@masonmax1000]

2 more years TM

[@Beau74]

@@masonmax1000 Yes. It's always 2 more years. Always.

[@HansangVibration]

this was the most reassuring panel ever done. This is gameplay, this is fun, this is what SC should be about. And i love it.

[@z31Joshyman]

Ive been a backer for 8 years but haven't followed anything for the past 2 or so. This is coming along and I can't wait for all this to be implimented

[@vamperic]

Base building within the next 12-18 months apparently, we'll see how next year goes

[@NaughtyNimitz]

Backer since 2014 and i sort of keep a low-ball eye on the project… But this really is a very good convention! The idea behind it all is so advanced and never done before, that i for one still believe that SC will have a profound impact. Release 1.0 , even in 2026, will be a historic moment.

[@vamperic]

@@NaughtyNimitz Don't expect 1.0 in 2026, 3-4 years minimum is a safe bet given how much they want in for 1.0 Development could ofcoarse accelerate a lot but that remains to be seen

[@Ventira_Aqanin]

@@vamperic Development actually has accelerated since Squad42 hit feature complete status and the tech and manpower for that area was able to moved over to Star Citizen.

[@celairvaneo]

Backer for 11 years and stopped following for about 3-4 years. Won't start now, because all these things take ages everytime. Just deliver and i'll play again (if my PC can handle it)

[@olgoblin4593]

It really does seem like the crafting is going to bring everything together, hopefully it works out that way.

[@Sowta]

It would be great to have some really good BP and people looking toward their crafters

[@blountfilms_au]

Their vision definitley makes sense, I see why everyone is hesistant given the 10 years of waiting but in my opinion, fair enough for something like this of this scale, they definitley needed to make the money first to invest it, and it looks like they are! So i'm stoked, I think we'll see lots in the coming years.

[@nikushim6665]

You're delusion if you think Griftcitizen will ever be populated let alone actually released. Its just endless scope creep with suckers dumping money into it. Mean while Chris is buying himself and his family members mcmansions.

[@k1mfor]

None of this will make it into PU in anything less than 10 years

[@LucidStrike]

​@@k1mforY'all talk like crafting is as hard to develop as Server Meshing 🙄

[@Oeslian]

This is turning into Star Wars Galaxies and I am all for it.

[@Perkelenaattori]

I hope there won't be a "Combat Upgrade" or a "New Game Experience" in this one.

[@Ariana321]

Star Wars Galaxies combined with EVE

[@jagerlionruiz8639]

@@Ariana321 NO eve thanks

[@veric13]

I am all for it too. It is the MMO that I remember the most. Loved that game.

[@Anachroschism]

The crafting side of SWG was fantastic. I'm glad this is similar. I wonder if vendors will be similar. However, I don't want to store everything in backpacks in empty houses, or storage vendors. Next we need medical permission systems to help prevent griefing, and player base vulnerability timers, for a better way to defend bases.

[@BRAN911]

I knew it all the time. SWG had the best crafting system ever and SC will be a worthy successor! THANKS.

[@veric13]

This was exactly what I was thinking. This is the closest to SWG crafting that I have seen. I so miss that game. The areas to mine also remind me some of SWG.

[@alteredstate07]

@@veric13 you can play the SWGemu if you want to play it.

[@Scarl3t03]

It looks amazing, cant wait to play it with my future grandchild

[@highpofly]

accurate

[@notoriouspc]

This is so overused it might come full circle and class as a dad joke atp

[@RogerGarner]

Almost a Dad joke.... when I pledged, it was with a group of friends. Now several of us are dads and we have kids who are able to become our very own "AI blades" to help us before the game adds them 🤣

[@larrycapija8980]

This will be the game of the century if is finished before the next one

[@nekron35]

booo soggy old jokes

[@MyMMC]

Glad Chris Roberts pulled back on the "there will be no crafting in this game" thing he said some time ago. this looks like a very good plan and would motivate people to play for other things than just money.

[@the_photarist1845]

This feels like a throw back to Starwars Galaxies. But better.

[@jay-nb6uk]

i'm so excited for my grandchildren. they'll really get to enjoy this game when it is finally released

[@PatEagle787]

The crafting system looks well developed. Looking forward to 1.0

[@Spumoon]

This is really, really cool, but speaking of the lakefront property you show as the site for a base I hope we will also be seeing improved water physics (as in, not instantly destroying you and your ship the minute you float too low in the shifting ethereal waves). It would be so cool to land an 890 jump in the water and just go yachting.

[@AppiusOS]

The 890 is so massive, the deployed landing gear should just touch the bottom of the shallows of the lake!

[@robopenguin5501]

Or the ship engine's would just be disabled and someone with an SRV would have to come lift you out of the water so you can fly back out.

[@pagexi3394]

Awesome upgrades, your sweat equity is appreciated 🍺😎

[@emperortivurnis9161]

I would love if some player crafted items could end up being sold in NPC shops, that would be WILD to find some badass Karna Plasma Rifle or Arrowhead Sniper or some ship component with cool stats made by a player that's made its way across the 'Verse to the shop, and ended up in your Catalogue that moment, that'd be truly awesome.

[@Scarl3t03]

eve online it's like that, the whole market it's made by players, it's really neat

[@Biter1975]

I expect you will see Grey market stores where you buy in game items for rl cash.

[@willh69]

Guys the release date is in the title, "2954"

[@AdmiralBeethoven]

Incredible, I want the game for my 80th birthday - Haha, but jokes aside, real incredible work, can't wait to play the final product

[@senju2024]

I am 65 years old so 80 years old may be actually quite accurate for me.

[@jaxwillis905]

star wars galaxies reborn , and im all for it

[@Synthmilk]

For Orgs, there needs to be a Planning system for large bases, where you can lay out as many structures as you want, and then allow them to be built individually or in groups by multiple builders.

[@ATOMSCOLLIDE]

Great concepts. just like the BMM.

[@horrordar]

Most of the stuff shown at Citizencon isn't available in-game or in the pledge store so treat it as speculative. :)

[@TheKarahan2011]

Thanks JCrowe right

[@senju2024]

They moved from the original idea of exploration game to a crafting game. I spend 10 years thinking of exploration.....oh well...back to starfield.

[@HK94]

Can't wait to come home after a week or 2 exploring and doing odd jobs around the verse.

[@nekron35]

same

[@Lazirus951]

This genuinely looked pretty cool to me. When can we realistically expect to see this all in game? Years?

[@nekron35]

they are aiming for 1.0 release in 2026

[@Lazirus951]

@@nekron35 I think you may be referring to SQ42 release date which is 2026. All these PU features are confusing to me to know when they expect to implement them.

[@robertmandl9326]

After this panel and before the 1.0 panel they said they are aiming to bring basic crafting and building within the next 12 - 18 months.

[@guruxara7994]

2124

[@Reiner_Wein]

guys! imagine! in like 15 years we might be able to build a shed

[@KrazyKaiser]

"And We'll have TWO Denny's, so we can say 'Nah, let's not go to that one, let's go to the good Denny's'"

[@azrinaswan80]

Pyro IV looks stunning

[@Vlasovas42]

What I thought of the presentation on the second day, everything was fine, except for the construction of ships, it will remove the symbolism that a Ferrari causes in real life, apart from the implications in relation to various things, like: - why should a manufacturer like aegis have to spend millions on its own shipyards to build an idris, if i can do it at my base and 5x better. - what's the manufacturer going to live on if the home-built ships are built from various npcs or guilds at random? - where is the lore of these ships, why was the cutlass red being sold in a store at the time that 36 of them were used for a large scale rescue if everyone can make it at home. - and if the 600i made in the backyard was made with second-rate materials, and the ship disintegrated on take-off, what about the morale of the origin? If the ship has their logo on it and it's a 600i model, that's exactly why ferrari doesn't allow you to tamper with their cars - it ends up more cartoonish than NMS, because they build vehicles and ships there, but they're bluprint's own, not just any ships you see flying around in the sky.

[@Pepega-t7k]

Ship manufacturers earn the money from the blueprints obv

[@F0rtyTwo-1]

have you fixed ships saving with missing hard points yet?

[@briansterling5912]

Was on my 12th 30K of the night so I figured I would watch this video and pretend the game works.

[@baremetalmafia]

Just 12 eh? Not bad.

[@RippleEffect420]

high quality what lol "aluminum" 10:36 have I been pronouncing it wrong this whole time :O

[@trevordupp8734]

Its like adding Satisfactory to the game

[@captlocutus3974]

Please, provide another feature not needed for a working release. Hanger doors don't open, and can't spawn on hanger anymore in 4.0...

[@ShartReacts]

15ish years from now I will finally be able to watch a demo of the soon to be released crafting.

[@TrustSpiders]

How are these bases impacted by an A2 bomb.

[@warren3174]

negative ghostrider. the pattern is full

[@vamperic]

Bases in the 3 high security systems are invulnerable, ones built in the two low sec are able to build automated defences and dome shields to defend against bombing

[@DreamCatchAah]

We love you RSI

[@connarcomstock161]

>German guy gets up >Talks about making steel This tracks.

[@MikeMcNanners]

9:55 Kinda random but, I remember reading a comment like 8 years ago from a guy saying he wanted to just build a base on the surface and be a farmer, selling his food. At the time I thought that was a bit excessive and the game wasn't ever going to support that kind of gameplay. It's too specific and nuance. I thought farming would be limited to things like the Endeavor. So it's funny seeing, after all this time, they describe farming/ranching at your base, followed by crafting hot dogs. You can literally be a planetary hot dog supplier lmao.

[@derk4737]

Are they saying @ 11:50 that you can literally build a vehicle, one part at a time?!

[@avantigaming1627]

And when exactly this base building is planned to release? Let me guess, in "2 years"?

[@robertmandl9326]

They aim to release this within the next 12 - 18 months, before the release of 1.0.

[@avantigaming1627]

@@robertmandl9326 we know how "good" their aim in releasing things is though :D

[@bigpoppa1234]

lmao. add a zero to the end of 2 and you might be on track lol

[@dominik1023]

So basically, you are turning Star Citizen into Star Wars Galaxies. Not a bad idea, that was a good game. The only thing that's missing is the Galactic Auction House.

[@berlinerkindl6970]

Where will be player Bases with traders Where you can Buy Sell your stuff

[@Jakk3113]

And a functional game like SWG.

[@Alex-se3uy]

SWG vibes, and Im here for it. Get into the PTU, and let's get it working.

[@visceros]

Since Star Citizen is a space simulator. How do you explain ship tiers from a simulator side? Just "better materials" doesn't feel sufficient.

[@GrimGatsby]

better 'quality' materials fits the bill a bit better. Even today there are different qualities of things like steel. It's not to hard to imagine the same could apply to independently manufactured spaceships.

[@mohammadibrahimkhan5754]

i think humans would've invented a quantum drive by the time this game is ready to release

[@jprgohard7138]

Can’t wait until my 8090ti Super can run this game in 2030. Keep up the good work guys!

[@generalrendar7290]

So if I wanted to be a crafter, how could I avoid being essentially a slave to larger guilds? Build in High Sec space? Because it looks like the guilds that can acquire the most crafters and blueprints are going to have the most power. Bases can be constantly raided, players kill farmed, missions and resources gate kept, until the crafting player either submits or quits the game. Orgs almost certainly can become kingmakers in their own right as well, since they'll have the manpower to power level their pet crafters dominate servers. This looks like CIG is modeling their system after EVE Online, and I don't know many players that want to play this game as a second job.

[@grundlefairy]

playing solo is not normal for an mmo. it will come with challenges because the perks arent meant for a solo player...

[@generalrendar7290]

@grundlefairy that's fair. This would be my first mmo I've ever played. Plus, I work non-standard hours. I'm not sure how guild dynamics work. I'm sure that there are a variety of guilds for different people.

[@tinato67]

There is a lot of space, and I can imagine that you can also hide the tech signature at some point and potentially also cloak it.

[@grundlefairy]

@@tinato67 thats pure speculation when not even RSI talked about such a thing

[@brillbillbo]

Are you gonna put nutritional fabricators in the living quarters of ships? Because around here we call those ovens! :)

[@dakotah4866]

I'm making this post just before starting the video I'm going to update this comment or make it a new reply. But I just thought I might ask will squadron 42 come to disc?

[@asog88]

What’s the local inventory? I thought we got rid of it

[@prozac1127]

This is looking like a future sim instead of a game

[@networknomad5600]

Only two more years until this feature is out, ya'll.

[@Joeslipknot1]

so how much time do i have to spend to get all this? and then leave to have some guy or peoplle raid it whille i sleep

[@NewYorkshireWorkshop]

having just played 3.24.2, i dont they are capable of achieving even a fraction of what they showed at citizencon

[@berlinerkindl6970]

Them Play another Game; sc is on it way to be a Game that was Never Done in this Complex way. It will take more time to get there but lready it has a lot to offer

[@_3Leon]

Having just played 4.0, they will definitely be able to make all of this a reality.

[@berlinerkindl6970]

@@_3Leon with now mostly Wirkung meshed Servers this can be Archived and from What we See it will come to that and i alreqdy love the new gameplay with Pyro !

[@berlinerkindl6970]

@@_3Leon Jeah the Server Masching was a Big and neccecery thing. Archiving that is a Big step

[@bobbyb6053]

So does that mean a Crucible can craft small ships, instead of just repairing them?

[@lukepage1576]

Structures and space stations need a battleststions / red alert state as well to help immersion when under attack.

[@Pepega-t7k]

Already have it from what i saw, space stations have turrets inside to defend against enemies bording the station

[@upholsteredhero5216]

Wow more stuff that the customer will never get a chance to experience!

[@zappyhalo567]

this reminds me of space engineers, minus the voxels

[@staceybertran52]

We will need the Ability to disassemble and take our materials with us when we need to leave a location.

[@jeanulav]

Yo, ca va être fou man!

[@matthewkaye722]

Cant wait till its release and my great, great-grandchildren will be able to use my account.

[@senju2024]

I bought into Star Citizen dream 10 years ago...thinking of exploration. I was thinking the end game was for me and my AI CREW to explore the 100 systems and meet other aliens and thousands of planets...basically a space explorer dream. I even spend a lot of money on exploration ships. How is my end game working out?

[@baremetalmafia]

Well, they lied to everyone not just you. You will be ok.👍

[@Biter1975]

Not looking good for explorers. Game is going to be about controlling territory. Eve 2.0

[@senju2024]

@@baremetalmafia Sad! There are even people took lots of their time to learn some of the alien languages. What a waste!!!

[@baremetalmafia]

@@senju2024 I get it. We all wanted this concept dream they sell. It sounds like living inside our favorite SciFi shows and it’s very effective at separating our money from us. Unfortunately it won’t produce what they are selling because it’s not actually possible. We are ALL going to have to grow up and just go outside instead and create meaningful lives instead. Which I think is better anyway

[@Eselfar]

In the video "CitizenCon 2954: The Stars My Destination: Star Citizen 1.0" @22:35 they show the list of all guilds an specialisations for the 1.0. Explorer is part of it.

[@maxalm3318]

26:52 waves so strong that sway the stones...

[@sponsors_not_included]

Shouldn't the augmented reality be called AR not ER?

[@APoIIy]

How will they prevent it from becomming a clusterfuck of bases or that people simply start claiming all unlawfull land?

[@randlebrowne2048]

Mostly rising maintenance costs and the fact that being spread too thin with allow other orgs to attack undefended bases.

[@reek7518]

Also can't claim unlawful land

[@randlebrowne2048]

@@reek7518 Basically, unlawful land is only yours so long as you can defend it from other players.

[@juanluisacosta1172]

Best citizencon ever, i wish we could get all the features earlier...

[@aaronnelson7702]

In ten years

[@Venduhl]

How impactfull will be multiaccounting? I formyself love a System, where I can have everything on one Character but nearly every game with a crafting system has the Problem, that more effort needs more characters or accounts. How do you deal with that? How do make me not feel preassured to have multiple characters and accounts?

[@freddy-h7s]

WE still have time to see it done until next century!

[@PerfectCode]

Yesss

[@WIKUS70]

Impressive...

[@podunkest]

I wonder how long it'll take to gather mats and fully craft a decked out T5 ship... 18 years

[@IAmKlagg]

Okay but how am I gonna get to this stage when it currently takes me a month to earn a Vulture?

[@123Andersonev]

you'll join a guild and the guild will give you earnings perks at certain game loops the more you progress with it.

[@TarisRedwing]

@@123Andersonev and where is the guild going magically get all that.

[@123Andersonev]

@@TarisRedwing the guild is just an in game association, the devs will implement the perks according to with guild in game you're aligned to.

[@robertmandl9326]

As a solo player it WILL take you some time to get a base set up. The rule of thumb here is: the more players working together the more can be achieved.

[@eyekhan6099]

Alternatively, trustworthy co-ops could be unofficially formed to assist each other in projects.

[@ZiLoXCY]

Is the citizen con number a hint to the release date?

[@senju2024]

They said the plan release in 2 years. But we need to translate that by x2 so 4 years. But we should add another 2 years for delays. A more actuate timeline for 1.0 would be 2030.

[@Eselfar]

@@senju2024 2 years is for Squadron 42. I agree that a realistic release date for SC will be NET 2030 considering everything they have presented here.

[@sjoer]

When can I pledge a CGC?

[@sjoer]

Fuses don't really wear in real life, they could when exposed to oxygen and high temperature... fuses limit the current that can flow through a system!

[@Chappers.Gaming]

Hyped.... Oh wait hype has ran out 10+ years 😢.... I wanna be exited but I'm like meh... Maybe when I see it I'll be like wow!.....

[@AKSnowbat907]

31:44 Augmented reality.. Is AR, not ER :S

[@Eselfar]

Maybe you should be more open an understand that not all those devs are native English speakers?

[@adriannowak1771]

Yeah lets start selling blueprints now great idea xd

[@stevengirsberger8869]

This game will never be finished with all this "features". I will Die before this game is playable...

[@MLKL2011]

star citizen system requirements. proper hardware connected internet any RSİ store Pledge package Being İmmortal to play first release.

[@craygebrown8694]

I love that crafting is coming but its worrying that the materials needed to make the best crafted anything will entirely be controlled and sold by orgs. That orgs will be able to dictate control the cost of a material type for the whole game. Solo players who want to have a pice of land when they can make their own top tier goods in hisec to sell will be all but impossible. Orgs can and will take control of entire resources rich planets.

[@mohammadibrahimkhan5754]

This game will never be finished. It's getting so complex by the hour, that when it comes to ironing the massive bugs they have, the plethora of them will be very overwhelming

[@berlinerkindl6970]

Thats Not a Bad thing more and more Features and mether ending Support and adding of Features is better Then just make 1.0 Version and them end . More ideas come and come ans will be Developer

[@aleksandrrush4076]

I'm glad Star Citizen is not for everyone. Same as to be a pilot. You need to pay a fair price for that and also prove you're good enough to still in that community of people. Yes! You're right! Just exactly for the things like "Oh! You also play Star Citizen?". Yes! For that.

[@Chleosl]

An Saticefactory Integration, that is Super Cool.

[@ph11p3540]

I shall be famous for crafting the best cooking stations and auto kitchens money can buy.

[@Duff_Man69420]

When? SOON(tm)

[@Sal3600]

what can i do in this game??

[@GrimGatsby]

cargo hauling, space rock mining, ship wreck salvage, ship combat, fps combat, looting, pvp piracy, pvp bounty hunting, racing, medical rescue, cave exploration, trading goods and services with other players, dynamic global events, large scale group content.

[@LostSoul-TeemoMain]

Non shill answer? Not much, You gotta RP to have fun.

[@guruxara7994]

almost nothing, the thing is just a demo, you'll get bored in the first week playing it

[@GrimGatsby]

@@guruxara7994 wrong lol

[@GrimGatsby]

@@guruxara7994 How would you know when you've never played?

[@Sheabutter98]

Gonna be running a 5950x with my 6700xt soon

[@BegForMyMercy]

this is the most exciting thing about star citizen!

[@witch-doctor]

Wow this is truly amazing

[@podunkest]

People from South and Central America sure do love carrying their flags around with them lol... (Brazil, front row)

[@jungfaha]

StarCitizen is goig to end up being "Ready Player One" but within the starcitizen universe with people not even "NEEDing" to leave a planet and can simply stay on one location and still have all the game loops they desire.

[@adriannowak1771]

Imagine the fps cant wait tho

[@jimmysgameclips]

10:40 He strikes again!

[@arben420]

It be awesome if you crafted a tool to make elevators or running up stairs work

[@nerdglider]

Yo why are so many weirdos flocking to the comments under all these videos 😂

[@anvaypatel7906]

this might end up becoming the minecraft of the new generation 👀

[@Jakk3113]

None of this matters untill the elevators work, missions aren't bugged, and my character stops falling through planets.

[@Neonvarun]

Craft a way so ingame brought items don't get server wiped 🙏🏻. Pay to win it is

[@CPT_Crandalf]

Please craft a stable release so we can actually test things...

[@DMrFrosty]

I am excited to see the project coming along nicely. Between this and squadron 42; CIG is going to break the gaming industry. Show em what's possible!