💸 Side Effect by Initio | Unboxing Series 🎁 TONKA / CINNAMON / TOBACCO

[@OmarZ77]

1:05 haha man, you perfectly described TLTG. Dude has lines of Rojas, PdM, Mancera but somehow 1 Chanel, barely 1 Hermes, barely any Guerlains.

[@DONQUIIIXOTE]

And a million cheapies/clones [of fragrances they already have] 😂

[@ryany2882]

The worst fragrance youtuber that guy buys his subs. What a loser

[@Mr.Cologne]

😂😂😂😂

[@ryany2882]

Check out eau de jerks some great banter about that moron

[@patrickstar7693]

I think that's also the best way for me. I really love expensive Niche and also have some random cheapies. I don't really care about designers... meh....

[@michaellefke4380]

It's always good to watch your channel for real reviews. Robes, you are one of the only ones I still watch. Your channel and Ramsey and Joao Lima are about it.

[@millenialbroadcast]

Great review. I really like the direction you’ve taken with your channel. You’re still giving us your unvarnished, in depth reviews but now you are reviewing more of the mainstream offerings. This is a great service to those of us who are newer to fragrances. We get a chance to listen and learn about fragrances that are widely marketed but we’re not being subjected to the pile of 💩 that normally comes along with it. Thanks for blazing your own path and not following the crowd ✌🏾!

[@Mr.Cologne]

Hater what happened.. when someone else calls them out it's ok 😂😂

[@millenialbroadcast]

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[@millenialbroadcast]

@@Mr.Cologne- Good fragrance reviewers try fragrances before speaking on them. Unlike some people who hate on things even when they don’t know wtf they are talking about. Nahmean?

[@ryany3549]

Still the O.G of the fragrance game ! Great to see you still reviewing as I remember watching you when you Tin Swetcof and Brandon were the top 3 reviewers

[@robes08]

Those were the days!

[@michaelbullock8011]

Great video and I enjoyed it and I like this fragrance and I give it a 9.5 out of 10 in my opinion and have a blessed day

[@Leonard_Washington76]

I definitely love side effect.

[@robes08]

9.5?!? I knew this account was a BOT. You got free bottles too? Blink twice, let us know you are okay!

[@sk8girldecks11]

@@robes08I agree with you on almost everything, and have been watching for probably 10 years. However I must say that this juice is gorgeous.

[@Irinikarambatsou1]

Hi Mark!What is your opinion on Kilian perfumes?

[@robes08]

mostly overpriced (you pay for that packaging). I start with Back to Black which is still a staple for me. Idk they are good but they remind me a bit like Xerjoff. They are in this niche realm and they make boozy, gourmand things. It's good but not great.

[@initdialog]

I like Side Effect, Oajan, Carisle, Layton and Haltane but not for these prices. The fair price would be like Manceras.

[@WSF176]

S Tier when it comes to laughable retail pricing. But don’t you worry I’m sure Joma Shop will have a 48 hour big bang blow away sale soon!

[@robes08]

As I read this a month ago my feed is full of influencers pushing a PDM sale on Joma for 48 hours lol , I spit my coffee out reading this.

[@Leonard_Washington76]

@@robes08I would be interested in the sale. But think I’m done with PDM… until they actual make a fragrance worth buying. To be honest I do love Layton, Carlisle, and Percival. But until then I’m done with purchasing anything from PDM

[@plamenski5244]

Its a good release, I went through a couple of decants but I probably won't buy a full bottle. My favorites from PDM and Initio are Habdan, Carlisle, Herod, Musk Therapy and Blessed Baraka

[@robes08]

I'll keep testing these and continue to discover, perhaps one will hit me the right way.

[@m.houston6643]

Always been on my radar, I had a sample I smelled on paper briefly and then lost the sample. I thought it smelled pretty good, but I’m just too focused on it that fragrances to really give it the time of day. Took a break from fragrance for a bit and got back to knocking some things out but mainly just tried and true. Houses. Kind of over niche outside of Creed who I do think are doing a good job with the F batches.

[@robes08]

Appreciate your take! Thanks for sharing!

[@xNiji]

Ill keep buying initio truly unique

[@robes08]

Awesome! Thanks for sharing.

[@Leonard_Washington76]

This is one of my favorite fragrances along with Paragon, and Rehab.

[@patrickstar7693]

true that

[@robes08]

did you unsub yet lol

[@Leonard_Washington76]

⁠@@robes08not yet I’m still subbed. This did almost bring me to tears 😢 lol

[@robes08]

@@Leonard_Washington76 wait until I take out Rehab next week 😈

[@Leonard_Washington76]

@@robes08🤦🏾‍♂️ let’s hope you actually like Rehab… I’m sure you’ll love Paragon to be honest

[@joebraun122]

Disappointment whipping through your bank account. 😂. I don’t love Intitio. From the house I liked Rehab and Musk Therapy. IMO the only real selling point from the house is longevity. They all last forever, but the scents are just ok. I agree way better options even at the discounter price points. Thanks for the review. We appreciate you.

[@ToriZealot]

Love Musk Therapy

[@ryany2882]

Isn't musk therapy feminine? If not I'll sample

[@silentsir2446]

Same, except I would replace Musk Therapy with Paragon..the white bottles, and OFG are the only one's I really dont/didnt mind buying a full bottle of.

[@angelmelendez2468]

So i got a sample on this one , and I am actually wearing it today , I do enjoy the initial opening , but I have to say other reviews were saying its "beast mode" or a "boozy bomb", I dont know if my sample is bunk , but after an hour i dont smell anything , not sure if im nose blind , but its def not beast mode , in fact if i bought this I would be upset on the performance. I wont front I enjoy vanilla , tobacco . In this profile , what would be a better substitute for a vanilla sweetness ?

[@fluffybunny4891]

blind bought it and was disappointed from the performance too

[@robes08]

Have you smelled Guerlain Spiriteuse Double Vanille for a vanilla? It's my #1.

[@sergemunitz1153]

I have Oud For Greatness which I love (did not love it right away as. like all Initios, it felt a little too simplistic but I learnt to appreciate it as something simple but well done). This one to me is just simple... :) I smelled 7 or 8 others, the same impression. You are not wrong saying this is designer frag made with higher quality, performance, presentation. My collection is smaller than yours, Marc, but a lot of the same stuff I see behind you. it's hard for me to find a place for more Initio perfumes but Oud For Greatness I will repurchase if I run out.

[@robes08]

Appreciate you sharing your thoughts as well. Always a pleasure seeing you in the comments!

[@teeeee9174]

Over time what is longevity and projection like? Since these current branches are weaker

[@EduardsPutra]

Wow, your shirts are legendary. Good times, needs a separate segment, LOL :)

[@ryany2882]

I know! I need that shirt looked online can't find it anywhere

[@yassver]

Whippin through the base 😂

[@wutru3142]

A stab at ATH..😏

[@robes08]

😆

[@viggenone]

This is as you said polarizing, at least for me, when I started this journey in 2018 I didn't know about niche fragrances, so I started trying and testing what fragrance reviewers feature in their videos and the Initios and PDM were there, I totally get what you say about them being a more refined designer fragrances, nothing new, but I like them, to me they're the definition of dumb reach and Carlisle is one of my favorite fragrances of all time as well as Oud for Greatness, are they up there with the best fragrances in my collection? nope, not by far and I don't reach for them often but I enjoy them. Side Effect is another I really like but I haven't got a bottle of it so maybe I don't like it that much 😆I do care about the brands and the heritage, it is very important and I love a good bottle design and branding but what I really want is to smell new fragrances, different, mesmerizing, even if it's a clone with a twist, the important thing for me is the experience and how it makes me feel, in reality everything else goes to second place. Thanks for the Unboxing Marc, it was good to hear your take on it my friend!!!

[@robes08]

Always enjoy your take as well my friend.

[@viggenone]

@@robes08Thank you!

[@wutru3142]

I only have Rehab which I do enjoy! It’s a smoother Spicebomb

[@Grautonparfums]

You are wrong about Hedione beeing a fixative. It does not have fixative qualities. Materials like Musks and Ambroxan have fixative qualities. Hedione is a transparent floralizer with the ability to make other notes bloom more and enhance them.

[@robes08]

I disagree that it isn't a fixative. Thanks for the comment.

[@erasemyself606]

I bought a Side Effect but mine has the letter A at the end of its batch code. Is this one of the new batch codes? Do you know anything about this? I doubted whether it was original or not.

[@robes08]

I'm not a batch code guy tbh, I don't care. I get what I get. If you got it from a good source I would not worry about it being authentic. Too many people go crazy on that kind of stuff, they see a change in the bottle etc.. and they think it's fake. Not knowing the brand may change things from time to time. Life's too short for this imo. Sorry but I can't help but if you really want to know things you can ask in facebook groups etc.. and people will tell you BUT be warned none of these people are experts like they claim so take what they say with a grain of salt.

[@razvanyke]

Side Effect is literally one of the best Initio, along Musc Therapy IMO. Reminds me a lot of One Luminous Night from D&G .. maybe the Master Perfumer Herault made this one too. Great video, my friend !

[@ryany2882]

Yes only luminous night is better

[@MoahGentle]

I got a decant of Musk Therapy and it’s fine. Wouldn’t likely buy a bottle of it (especially not for retail price) my fave that I smelled from them was High Frequency, which I also haven’t bought a bottle of (yet) because of the pricetag.

[@RambleStorm]

The only Initio I like is Rehab(and I got it because I found a high partial for basically designer price)...sprayed my sample of Side Effect ..and yea I agree syroupy sweet and some pipe tobacco with tonka and slight hints of cinnamon. (On my skin at least)...Not my cup of tea but I do have friends that like it.

[@Saturdaykids]

Fearless commentary.

[@robes08]

💪

[@deenibrahim9503]

nice sweater!

[@robes08]

Thanks!

[@texasfan8892]

Actually, hedione is made to increase radiance in fragrances, to make the notes “come alive” in a sense. I tried this fragrance out a few years ago and didn’t like it at all. The rum note was very sharp, followed by a very cheap smelling, ashy tobacco.

[@robes08]

Thanks for sharing!

[@NickyStikes]

Of the Initio and PdM’s I’ve sampled, I thought they spelled good, but were missing something. Like it was missing a note or ingredient preventing it from being a great fragrance.

[@robes08]

I think much of it is budget, there's something they cheap on, perhaps it's blending. Something is off with these, but if they are made to copy then there's no much imagination behind it to start.

[@Namo81]

The onley fragrance i like from this house is Rehab and it is a clone of spicebomb with some changes . Not worth the pricetag tho

[@robes08]

Thanks for sharing, I may try Rehab in the future mostly for decanting purposes.

[@razscott]

I enjoy this one, only have a sample but would never drop retail, utterly absurd prices, i have Herod, Oajan and Carlisle which i think are fantastic frags but got them for good prices on ebay

[@Teeb2023]

Utterly absurd? It's not much more expensive, ml for ml, than the PDMs you mentioned.

[@razscott]

@@Teeb2023 The PDMs i have i got for around half price, the retail price for both brands is pretty obscene tbh

[@joaopaulostasiu1091]

@@Teeb2023he said retail has utterly absurd prices, he manneged to find the pdm’s cheapear on ebay so that’s why he bought it.

[@jamesnash7262]

…thanks Marc ! i’m so completely not the target audience for these, and always been put-off by exactly the hype-train you talked about, but good to have confirmation…

[@MuddyGreenMonster]

I've not tried this one, but I have tried Oud for Greatness & I've absolutely nothing good to say about it. The only PDM/Initio I own is a 40ml decant of Layton & I think it's OK, but I gotta admit, no other fragrance I've ever worn has got me anywhere near as many compliments as Layton, so I use it when I need everyone to be happy & to like me. \Whatever my opinion on it is, it doesn't really matter, as almost everyone around me seems to be wowed by it,

[@sharfalor4244]

I'd like to see you cover a Kayali fragrance. Designer prices but they're definitely part of the free bottle brigade. Super hyped but the gifted bottles are usually up for sale before they're even released (because the hypers don't actually want it). Very difficult to sample in UK, unless you want to spend £28 for 10ml. The clones generally get reviewed as being very close or better, with better longevity.

[@robes08]

I actually have the Vanilla one in a subcriber's choice video every 2 weeks. It has not been voted yet to be reviewed but it's on the list.

[@Leonard_Washington76]

I would love to see you do a video on Masion Crivelli “Oud Maracujá”

[@robes08]

it's on the list to sniff!

[@Prophecy23JC]

Keep it real, Marc. I hope you are doing well.

[@robes08]

This is a face from the past!! Hope you are well my friend! All is good here, still truckin' lol

[@fussballmeister301]

I get Banana Republic Tobacco and Tonka Bean vibes with this one

[@robes08]

probably lol , at least on the BR the pricing is right.

[@LightDragon99]

You were mentioning Tonka and not being a huge fan of Tonka, I was reminded of one of the Tonka dominant fragrances that I love, I didn't see any reviews from Ajmal, but maybe if you get a chance, please test Ajmal Purely Orient Tonka, it is supposed to be real oud with Tonka. Very unique to me. I am very curious to hear your opinion on it.

[@Principemostprincipe]

Its a good fragrance. One if the best initios in general. To me it smells like something Tom Ford would release

[@robes08]

I don't think I can see TF release something like this tbh but thanks for sharing.

[@frankp1648]

I like Paragon. A very nice woody fragrance with a juicy plum note and good performance. I would recommend it if it wasn't so overpriced.

[@robes08]

Thank you for sharing!

[@travisharris2377]

The old 76 percent stuff is amazing but I have a new 2023 bottle and it's not as strong or good. But the only initio I have liked are this and oud for greatness. Both I only paid 150 - 160 each for from FB marketplace so if you can get those 2 for cheap I think they are worth it. I don't like pdm at all honestly lol. But I like these two from initio and still would like to try paragon. Paying full retail for pdm or initio though is crazy lol.

[@robes08]

Agreed on prices.

[@brenlynch4811]

Cheers Marc,yeah asking too much for too little ,PDM and Initio offering can most probably be found in other houses ,original lines and of course so many clone houses love these two brands for the ease of duplication most probably because of the cheap oils etc. and scarily do a better job for a song of a price point . And yes I do indeed have several PDM bottles and samples of initio enough said and enough for me from these two which have been scooped up by the conglomerates ✌️🙏👍

[@robes08]

Always appreciate your educated comment Bren! Thanks for sharing!

[@The_Fuzz1]

Initio is extremely mediocre. I've smelled most of their fragrances, and none of them are bottle worthy for me.

[@DrIstoris]

Very synthetic, low quality bottles, overpriced to the sky. Shit

[@Namo81]

Worth not more than 80$

[@ryany2882]

Great jumper! As for the fragrance it's ok but I prefer luminous night.

[@robes08]

Thanks for sharing! Thanks for compliment as well.

[@daniellee8162]

Only one I can consider bottle worthy is Aphrodisiac but that is a hefty price still.

[@Gungrave123]

20:20 that's why Ashton is a bit smarter than the other shills. He usually starts by being unimpressed by the new releases, but then they always grow up on him.

[@robes08]

People will eventually move on from youtubers like that.

[@Mr.Cologne]

The clones dont come close .. much cheaper ingredients

[@robes08]

I'm not a clone guy tbh, but for the price, this does not scream quality. I prefer a nice Guerlain gourmand than this stuff.

[@patrickstar7693]

it blows my mind that you haven't tried it until yet

[@robes08]

I tend to avoid brands like these tbh. As an influencer it would shocking but views ain't everything for a reviewer.

[@steveb8269]

Only Initio I've sampled is Oud for Greatness, it didn't inspire me to want a full bottle or try any others from the line, there was something in it that I just could not agree with, like an excessive overdose of ambroxin.....for me meh at best

[@allybrklyn]

It’s okay scent,not worth 380$, something missing in this perfume, it’s nice but, I will pick eye of seven hill, from alghabra

[@robes08]

Thanks for sharing!

[@ryanmurray6066]

Man, can't disagree. I want to. I still like Side Effect. I enjoy it as a don't think, it's cold out, 4 sprays and go. I'm laughing because I have got compliments. It's a club fragrance for me. Now I'm gonna feel disappointed when I reach for it, but I'm still reaching.

[@robes08]

Enjoy what you enjoy!

[@jeffjamjeff6669]

I have no interest in this brand, but the ATH impression reading the bottom of the bottle made it worth it

[@robes08]

😅

[@cartoonanimal5320]

Expose more shills

[@robertorobles8987]

Very easy, 95% of KZbin and Instagram reviewers 😂

[@Adam_StefaniakSaltea_Moonspell]

I bought Rehab for around 200 USD. I like the scent but the longevity is terrible, so I decided not to go into Initio line. In regards to PDM. There are some good ones, like Herod, Oajan, Layton, Carlisle but rest for me is just not worth the money. BTW, love the CH shit. Remember being a big fan in the mid 90"

[@robes08]

👌

[@scentiment_]

I bought a bottle of this years back, in the beginning of my journey because I really did like it then but, not long after, it became so cloying to my nose, that I had to resell it 😂

[@Mr.Cologne]

I really like this house but it's unfortunate that this Community will hype and sell anything for a paycheck

[@robes08]

It's all about free bottles and pleasing the ones giving them out.

[@regismonkton]

I appreciate your review of Initio "Side Effect". I've heard great things about it, so about two years ago, I bought a reduced price sample of it. I thought the first two seconds of it were slightly enjoyable, and that was all that was enjoyable. It immediately became a burnt rubber scent after the first two seconds, and I don't like it. I'm very glad I sampled it first. I'll try it again later, but I know I won't buy a bottle of it.

[@robes08]

people mistaken quality with price, quality can be disguised with an excellent top note but that only lasts for so long.

[@RichMitch]

Initio and pdm are shite, their prices make their marketing more aggrevating. Its impossible to justify paying for these perfumes when the people telling you to don't have to themselves

[@Teeb2023]

_"Initio and pdm are shite"_ LOL!

[@RichMitch]

@@Teeb2023 I'm glad you agree 👍🏻

[@ryany2882]

​@Teeb2023 they are absolutely shite

[@Teeb2023]

@@ryany2882 I'm dying to hear how you can justify such a stupid statement.

[@ryany2882]

@Teeb2023 becuase they are shite. Can you read? Thats my opinion. They are synthetic, overpriced garbage. Which ones do you like? Having sampled most I'm not impressed

[@KGR87]

Unboxing series or Hating series? Amouage also sends FREE BOTTLES, but there is no "Hate intro" for the brand in your reviews... Yeah, you are the creator of the content, just saying...

[@ryany2882]

He's being honest

[@wutru3142]

You can’t compare Amouage with Initio..Blasphemy!

[@ryany2882]

@@wutru3142 I know what's he even on about imagine comparing them 😂😂😂

[@robes08]

Well that's a big difference from Initio vs Amouage. Amouage has a rich history and if you watch my channel the Chong era gets tons of praise from me but recently there's an intro to Amouage's about the new creative direction. Just a different take on different brands in different directions. Initio as a whole isn't a brand that resonates with me.

[@KGR87]

@@robes08 You did not get the point, i meant that nowadays this is called a marketing strategy, when Amouage uses it, neglije, but when other brand do it, you spit on the brand everytime when you review their fragrance, it is stupid, i didnt make a comprasion between the brand of Amouage and Initio, but with their policies, please make a difference. It is not hate on you, but just a different opionion. Respect, mate and sorry about the bad english, i am sure that you understand my point.

[@hassanaslam8487]

The shade on ATH hahah

[@robes08]

it happens lol

[@hassanaslam8487]

@@robes08 would be interesting to see you review his fragrances!

[@Leonard_Washington76]

I really love this fragrance. It’s very smooth and sexy smelling on my skin. I just came from sniffing my bottle lol after watching this video lol

[@robes08]

Enjoy it in good health!

[@Gardocki74]

I got samples of Rehab and Psychadelic Love from Initio a couple of weeks ago. Woefully disappointing. I won't touch the brand anymore.

[@leozito2004]

I was expecting much more boose. Even Fahrenheit Le Parfum has a much better and more pronounced Rum note and way more refined and smooth. I was also not impressed by this one. Definitely a pass for me.

[@robes08]

I highly agree that some designers give the thought of booze much better than this one.

[@the_track_enthusiast]

So average. Might as well get Spicebomb extreme

[@robes08]

Good ol' Spicebomb Extreme!

[@MattyS54]

Luminous Night is much better in this style and for less than half the price (when it was available). another fail for the prestigious house of Initio lol.

[@robes08]

I'm actually going to review that one off a sample soon.

[@MattyS54]

@@robes08 saw it got mad votes, look forward to it!

[@kez850]

4:45 Allure Homme Sport edt would like to have a word with you sir! 😂 Women are ridiculous with that one..

[@HelderOliveira-bl2xg]

So overrated. Not Initio's biggest fan but if I was to pick any I'd go for Paragon, Blessed Baraka, Absolute Aphrodisiac or Psychedelic Love, which to me are way better than Side Effect. I think you'd enjoy Blessed Baraka.

[@robes08]

I'll give them another try! Thanks for the suggestion!

[@Devppp]

Me when the mass appealing brand that tries to maintain a reputation of perceived quality delivers an underwhelming product with a less than impressive scent profile 😂😂😂

[@Alithia451]

The whole house is a side effect of scammeritis and stinkolosis!

[@bogdanbereca6549]

To expensive for what they offer. Mediocre at best, Initio is the best exemple of what is wrong in perfumery in our days.

[@patricktuwaidan4705]

On my skin, this one was smells like i am in a dentist room. Not for me. I am gonna wait for your review for Smoking Hot By Kilian & PDM Carlisle.... Thanks Mark😊

[@jarielalexander9054]

Initio = Meh

[@robes08]

Sounds about right

[@michaelparedes6030]

Eye of 7 Hills for me is wayy better than this.

[@robes08]

never heard of it, perhaps worth a look

[@TexasAlabamaBoi205]

Initio in my opinion is sub par but Amouage,Nishane,Kerosene and Ormande Jayne is of great quality and worth the price tag.

[@robes08]

Appreciate your take!

[@AliKhan-mj6zm]

😂😂😂😂

[@pandafragrance]

I blind bought this one based on reviews and sold it within a week. I found it too floral and feminine for a tonka/tobacco thing. In fact, I found it sort of similar in that regard to Naxos (not in smell, but in that they were floral/tobacco things that were far lighter and synthetic than I expected). Not for this Panda.

[@robes08]

Good Panda lol

[@syndy8834]

Yo robe you gotta stop making those weird face thumbnails in 2024 man. Put some smilin' shit for once 😅

[@robes08]

no.

[@Polyfusia]

I sampled Side Effect. I hate it. It smells like oversweet blackberry cobbler or something. Just a sickeningly sweet baked good.

[@silentsir2446]

Im always surprised that ppl go crazy over Side Effect. Such a basic, simple, tacky, overly sweet scent. You could get this from any $70 Macys fragrance. If this wasnt marketed as a luxury niche house, no one would be talking about this fragrance.

[@Polyfusia]

@@silentsir2446 People who buy these aren't actual fragrance enthusiasts. They don't have developed tastes or noses and they just buy whatever they're told to buy and like it especially if its inoffensive and mass appealing and disgustingly sweet.

[@robes08]

Sounds about right lol