Robot Wars: The First World Championship

[@jumpcutfilms1958]

"This superbunny has been with you for 9 years, and now what's gonna happen to it?" *It's gonna die*

[@xtheamazingax]

Thank goodness she changed her mind on that... as a sucker for soft toys myself (yes yes I know) I'd never let her live it down. Hehehehe

[@emeraldcomet2833]

The best Easter egg about this show is that every robot or competitor has a bit of Díotóir's fur

[@TheRogueAdventurers]

It was a running joke in the pits, that the diotoir fur was contagious and spread between bots

[@AlfredTheGreatestEver]

Imagine spending £30k on a robot wars robot, deciding the best weapons are the 2 least effective statistically in the competition, and going out to some model makers with a bucket scoop. Cambridge University in the mud.

[@tourdeforce17]

"We win by default!" Great joke by the Mauler guy that goes completely over the heads of the producers...

[@lewisb85]

Blendo reference?

[@crystalheart9]

Razer is like a can opener! Enjoyed this, thank you.

[@stuartgibson6357]

I had this a decade ago on VHS as a birthday present. All the while, I feared that Razer would break down yet again. Such a blast from the past to see the likes of Razer, Behemoth, Chaos 2, Diotoir, Mortis and Panic Attack vying to be world champion. Yep, those were the days. 3:10 I spy with my little eye, a BBC2 shaped robot.

[@adambloomfield9386]

I got the vhs with pullback of razer and chaos 2 with the trophies

[@captainsensiblejr.]

Bthe bbc​@@adambloomfield9386

[@HarlemHyena]

Killerhurtz's mascot was a Czech Charmander... Only on Robot Wars!

[@digitaldeathsquid3448]

And their tagline was "You have a hairy bellybutton"

[@crystalheart9]

So nice dad brings his daughter Amy and Super Bunny along with him to Robot Wars. I love the happy lady bug fur ball Diotoir, those Irish guys are so funny with their red polka dot fur. Thanks for the upload I'm enjoying this show so much.

[@njgw1465]

So, with Series 3 the next series up for uploading, I thought I'd make use of the DVD I received for Christmas - The First World Championship. So, here it is - enjoy!

[@Diotoir]

Thank you, Fantastic news and a fantastic upload as usual.

[@cdname47]

Does this Include the Intl League show as well? I know it was shown as Series 4 but it's clearly filmed during series 3...

[@njgw1465]

No International League, I'm afraid! H2 didn't broadcast it.

[@cdname47]

Ah I see, I don't get the channel so no idea what they're showing, sorry if all these obvious questions are annoying you ;)

[@StFidjnr]

it was released on DVD one time

[@Fjuron]

15:04 That was a great performance from Razer! 😁 😎 I would like to see more clamp style bots in modern Robot Wars, especially the ones like Absolute Control with Flame Throwers!

[@jason77584]

I’ve always wondered why no one from Japan hasn’t joined in in robot wars

[@MansMan42069]

The rules said "No Mobile Suits"

[@killdozer7792]

Closest we got to a Japanese competitor in Robot Wars was King B Remix in Series 8, since one of the team members was Japanese.

[@mothtolias]

I expect they had their own equivalent over there. when did the sumo robots get popular?

[@MadMike1978racing]

Their robots likely wouldn't get past airport security so easily

[@Matt-cn2nn]

Japan doesn't really do the whole "big heavyweight box on wheels with a big weapon".

[@DevilboyScooby]

3:05 Jesus, how long did that flight from Czechoslovakia take? It ceased existing in 1993...

[@so_qp]

I live in czechia and from 1993 is no longer czechoslovakia only czech republic and slovakia republic

[@xtheamazingax]

Ahhh the might of the mighty Razer. 💖 Favourite classic robot. Reboot favourites being Eruption and Carbide.

[@Headbanger142]

That really agitates me. BBC invites Mauler to compete on Robot Wars, take a look at their robot's weapon and decide it's not safe for the arena? Like they couldn't invite Biohazard or Glad or any robots that were safe enough? Also a real shame Behemoth lost in that final. I think if it was the Behemoth of today, they would have squashed Razer.

[@kaledranger18]

It would have been interesting to see how far Mauler / Biohazard / Vlad would have gone in the championships. Shame!

[@cdname47]

Headbanger142 they invited mauler because of its reputation, not realising it couldn't spin down on its own without using the arena sidewall to slow itself. in series 4 they invited them back and mauler won the contest it was entered in the complete unseen mtv pilot. ,

[@lewisb85]

They did a similar thing with son of wyachi, they were worried with its weapon it would kill a house robot, we all know what SOW went on to do.

[@leoli6116]

The old RW host was a douche.

[@datguy8805]

Headbanger142 then razer wouldve been improved just the same

[@davidfearis7335]

24:55 WHAT A COMPLETE SHOCK THAT WAS I DIDN'T EXPECT PANIC ATTACK TO BE ELIMINATED LIKE THAT!

[@ryanodonovan9497]

Well, up until 101's next battle where it beat Weld-Dor, literally every battle the former won was because of its opposition breaking down through none of 101's doing, like some continuous curse. I guess Panic Attack just suffered that way through bad driving rather than breaking down. In all seriousness, I hate it when robots show they're better in the fight only to fall out of the competition through none of the opponent's doing. But that's just bad luck for you. It happens. Then again, 101 getting as far as it did through nothing but this luck is the reason I never would've even had it in the First World Championship if it was up to me.

[@TehWhiteTiger]

Behemoth got pretty robbed to be honest, twice he had Razor out of action only for a house robot to leave their zone and save them.

[@ryanodonovan9497]

Wrong. Behemoth wasn't robbed at all. The House Robots didn't "save" Razer (not Razor - there are FIVE KEYS between the E and O buttons) - they were enforcing RULES. Matilda separated Razer and Behemoth because the latter was pinning the former on its side for longer than what was allowed, and pinning a robot down doesn't legally constitute an immobilisation. And it wasn't Matilda that put Razer back on its wheels; Behemoth did that. And Dead Metal pushed Razer off the flame grille because it's not supposed to trap robots in place. Oh, and just in case you're thinking that it was something made up just to suck up to Razer like all the stupid hypocrites who are biased themselves against the robot for the dumbest of reasons, know that Abaddon (an awkwardly designed newcomer facing a previous Heat finalist) and Death Warmed Up (a robot as poor as its predecessor Piece de Resistance) were separated from the grille in this same series for the exact same reason Razer was here. And if it was Behemoth in that predicament, it would've been helped out too. Dead Metal also didn't put Razer back on its wheels; it did so itself, and outscored Behemoth with its own attacks that inflicted damage, which is the most important of the scoring criteria. Again, Behemoth wasn't robbed, and Razer was the rightful winner.

[@Marmazetka]

@@ryanodonovan9497 Thanks

[@carribob1992]

I didn't see this when it first aired. But I did end up seeing it after getting it in a set along with pullbacks of Chaos 2 and Razer as well as mini replicas of the Robot Wars UK and World Title Trophies.

[@cr10001]

101 turned out to be an incredibly tough robot. It never had a weapon that did very much, but it just kept going and going.

[@Whoami691]

I always admired that. It was relentless even if it wasn't particlularly punishing. you can't win if your opponent refuses to go down.

[@TheRoboteer]

3:04 "Teams from Czechoslovakia" That's funny, given that Czechoslovakia didn't actually exist and hadn't for 6 years at the time of this being filmed.

[@Renegade666]

so not to confuse it with Northern Ireland. Eire is "mainland Ireland" but simply putting "Ireland" could mean either country. Its the same is putting "UK" or "Britain" for an English robot.

[@BambiTrout]

I think it was probably just a case of Jonathan Pierce showing his age and no one bothering to correct him. I know so many older Brits who still refer to Zimbabwe as Rhodesia or Romania as Rumania, as well as Czechoslovakia instead of the Czech Republic.

[@Lighthammer18]

@@BambiTrout I wrote a history project on Czechoslovakia during WW2 and got so used to the name I still say it wrong sometimes.

[@jackmonaghan8477]

I wonder if the we'll get a World Championship special for the new Robot Wars. I have a long list of potential competitors including numerous choices for England, PP3D for Scotland, Apollo for Wales, Foxic for the USA (it resides in both North Carolina and Bristol), Supernova for Sri Lanka, Luzifer (a live event bot) for Germany, Tough as Nails for the Netherlands, Cobra for Belgium, Crushtacean for South Africa and maybe some heavyweight versions of (or bots from the same teams) the foreign competitors competing in the FRA featherweight championships. Shame the Battlebots contracts are going to get in the way of some of the USA, Canada (Lucky) and Brazil's (Minotaur) best trying their luck against the best the UK has to offer.

[@ryanodonovan9497]

How come the clip of Razer receiving their award is that of them receiving the International League Championship? If you look closely, that's what it says on the trophy. Was their receiving of the actual World Championship trophy never recorded?

[@Megan-ii4gf]

The world championship *is* the international championship.

[@ryanodonovan9497]

@@Megan-ii4gf No, it’s a different Championship. Otherwise only one would exist. Whatever the reason for not showing the actual prize here, it comes off as lazy production work.

[@sentryogmixmaster]

i'm always amazed at the drivers that put their own machines into the pit. all you have to do is avoid that part of the arena....take the battle to a different area etc...

[@samuelkirkwood6702]

George Francis did it on purpose to avoid further damage to Chaos 2, smart move.

[@sentryogmixmaster]

@@samuelkirkwood6702 true that..kind of a tap out and save money on repairs

[@Warpenguin55]

Surprised Mauler's team was so chill about being DQ'd

[@lewisb85]

Well they ran during the mtv pilot and did a LOT of damage to spike and frenzy, apparently there were serious concerns that it could kill a house robot. Also some of the team were missing, morgan tilford actually had to get back to SF to sit his exams which merton promised they would help him with however, they didn't help him out, so I'm wondering if part of their not competing was to do with how they were treated.

[@brianlee5221]

​@@lewisb85 cowardly brits? Never seen that before...

[@dylankearney4000]

I loved this show as a kid and still do, but it's pretty notable now it's not exactly fair hahah. The house robots basicly exist to extend fights, Behemoth soundly defeated Razer twice, once when Razor was pinned beneath its shunt and again when Razor's self righting mechanism was failing because it was on that grid. House robots saved Razor twice. I mean I get it, would of been an anti climatic final but admittingly can't help but feel Behemoth got robbed here hahah

[@ryanodonovan9497]

Wrong. Behemoth didn't get robbed. Razer outdid its attacks with equal aggression, but with the addition that it caused significant damage to Behemoth. And damage (of which Behemoth scored none) is rightfully the most important in the scoring criteria. Apparently one of Razer's attacks also damaged at least one of Behemoth's wheels, making the latter less mobile. Also, the House Robots didn't save Razer - they were following rules that Refbot would uphold afterwards (it made more sense for an official figure than machines that are supposed to be bullies in combat). And it's not like Razer was put back on its wheels. It had to do that itself. Hell, the first time it was righted, Behemoth inadvertently helped out. Firstly, Matilda came to _separate_ Behemoth and Razer (not save the latter) because the rules state that you can't eliminate your opponent by pinning them; you can't always tell if they can potentially escape by their own power or not. Secondly, the rules also state that the angle grinders, flame grilles and arena floor flipper (the latter having one unclear exception in the first Antweight Championship) are NOT supposed to trap robots in place like the pit does. That's why Dead Metal pushed Razer off the flame grille, to see if it was ACTUALLY immobile or just stuck where it shouldn't have been. But Razer self-righted and was justifiably allowed to continue. Oh, and you can't make an argument that this was done to be biased towards Razer or avoid being anti-climactic, as this exact same treatment was given to Abaddon and Death Warmed Up in this same series (two lesser robots that fought once, lost their first round battles and never returned). Lastly, it's Razer, not Razor. It can't even be a typo when the E and O keys have five others between them. Hell, you spelled it right the first time.

[@dylankearney4000]

@@ryanodonovan9497 you got me completely on Razer, I've loved it since I was a kid and i usually spell Razor wrong. (That was on purpose, this time, I was just dumb before) If you watch over the series and pay attention to the house robots, I'm sorry but they exist to extend fights solely, robot wars is only slightly more "real" then wrestling. But seriously watch the behemoth match agaub closely; it's pretty agrecious, Razer didn't do anything til it was freed by the bots a second time. And behemoth' s roboteers are great sports, theyve righted many a robot before so I get why they let razor self right. But without house robots intervention Razer would of lost twice.

[@ryanodonovan9497]

@@dylankearney4000 You tell me to pay attention, yet you're the one who didn't here. As I said, the House Robots HAD to intervene the way they did in order to enforce the RULES. There was no other choice. You can't legally win by pinning your opponent, and the hazards other than the pit and the outside of the arena aren't supposed to trap robots in place. So the alternative you described _wouldn't_ have happened. You're right that the House Robots' actions helped fill out time, but don't think that they didn't get penalised when they go further than they're allowed. Because they were. And once again, the House Robots didn't free Razer! Matilda separated it and Behemoth when they were pressed together for too long, and Dead Metal pushed Razer off the flame grille, but did either House Robot actually put Razer back on its wheels? No. Razer freed itself the second time, came back and did more than Behemoth. If Behemoth really was deserving to win, they would've carried on being dominant until either the time expired or until Razer was PROPERLY immobilised. But that didn't happen, so Behemoth rightfully lost. There was nothing egregious at all. Also, robotic combat isn't "slightly more real" than professional wrestling. It's the complete opposite. It's real life fighting (albeit with machines) whereas professional wrestling is theatre. There were a few incidents of rigging with Robot Wars, but if you can look that far into it, there's no reason for you to ignore the fact that it's NOT supposed to be like that. And just know that when the show did go more in the direction of entertainment, it contributed to the show's DEMISE.

[@davidfearis7335]

MORTIS Vs TERROR AUSTRALIS was like the Series 3 Heat L Final with PANZAR Vs EVIL WEEVIL PANZAR DIDN'T EVEN START & NEITHER DID TERROR AUSTRALIS

[@ryanodonovan9497]

Since it was the first round, I'd say it was more like Agent Orange beating Max Damage in their Heat's first round; the latter never got going in that either.

[@Rover259Wild]

I used to have this championship on VHS, but when I got the Robot Wars ultimate warrior collection RAZER DVD, the battles of razer from this championship appeared on it

[@ryanodonovan9497]

The First World Championship also became available on DVD in 2005 (amazingly since Robot Wars had been off the air for at least ten months by then).

[@Rover259Wild]

@@ryanodonovan9497 of course the first world championship is also on DVD. Do you have the first world championship, or you used to?

[@ryanodonovan9497]

@@Rover259Wild I have it on DVD now, along with the Ultimate Archive/Warrior DVD boxset, Series 8 on Blu-Ray and the 2017 "Compendium" DVD that features Series 9, the two Battle of the Stars episodes prior and Series 10 (which unfortunately doesn't include the two World Series episodes at the end). It took me until 2009 before I started searching for these, but that's after I realised I could start reliving Robot Wars via footage on KZbin.

[@Rover259Wild]

@@ryanodonovan9497 Cool.

[@Frosty_tha_Snowman]

35:25 lol what good sports... and Phillipa is so great. She's beautiful, she's genuine, funny, and has a great voice.

[@Miss65boo]

Wow, have the robots evolved from the early days! You wouldn't be able to use aluminum on a robot today, it would be like putty! Very interesting to watch these old matches!

[@cdname47]

16:40 someone forgot to charge shunt's batteries it seems. wake up man!

[@Megan-ii4gf]

It took me ages to find but oh my god, I must've seen this on VHS at the age of 4, it's been so so long. It was my favourite thing from my childhood ever.

[@DragonNova]

Razer was saved by the house robots twice there...

[@ryanodonovan9497]

Razer wasn't "saved" by the House Robots. Matilda separated it and Behemoth because they were locked together with the way Behemoth pinned Razer (a prolonged pin doesn't legally constitute an immobilisation anyway). And Dead Metal pushed Razer off the flame grille because it's not supposed to trap robots in place - only burn whatever crosses it. Two lesser rookie robots in this series Abaddon and Death Warmed Up that each lost in their first round and never returned were pushed off the flame grille for that exact same reason. And it's not like either of those House Robots actually put Razer back on its wheels, and had it not been able to self-right without being pinned or stuck where it didn't count, _then_ it would've lost.

[@StevemanChair]

I remember getting the video for this as a kid (not sure if ever aired for TV?). It was great to see Razer in action without their bad luck with reliability

[@Nihilore]

love that random polka dot fabric finds it's way onto a crews hat and one of the razor guys glasses, and the bunny rabbit. it's like a plague haha

[@Nihilore]

even on razors tail haha

[@FeArLemonz0D220]

I am so pissed that Mauler didn’t get to fight, they would have been so entertaining to watch tear something up or gyro themself upside down

[@ryanodonovan9497]

Be that as it may, safety comes first. And Mentorn had a lot of catching up to do on that considering how badly they managed things backstage in Series 3. Really they should've just done more to assess Mauler prior in order to prepare to accommodate it, or seek out one of the other American machines.

[@lewisb85]

@@ryanodonovan9497 But considering at that point Mentorn were blamed by a lot of the american teams for killing RW the legal battle etc, it would have been good luck with that. They did the same to Son of wyachi as well they were legit worried it could kill a house robot, so team wyachi just went and entered battlebots and robotica instead and never went back to RW because of how they were treated.

[@ryanodonovan9497]

@@lewisb85 I knew nothing of this apparent dispute between Mentorn and American teams...

[@Hello_there_obi]

That mullet

[@CrazyHorseTheSiouxW4rrior]

Razer 13:38 - 36:26 - 56:12 - 1:02:40 Chaos 2 25:22 - 36:26

[@Hello_there_obi]

For those who thought behemoth won, damage is the deciding factor and razer sustained no real damage. Behemoth had massive damage on its sides.

[@TheMysteriouswatcher]

Damage, control, style and aggression are the deciding factors... Behemoth was aggressive, putting Razer wherever they wanted him with great control. The fact that Razer couldn't get off the flame pit for at least 30 seconds and sustaining no damage from the fire is ridiculous. Razer got carried through its poor driving and decision making by its stupidly overpowered weapon.

[@cr10001]

@@TheMysteriouswatcher And, Razer got rescued TWICE by the house robots when Behemoth had it tipped up and helpless - what's with that? Without them interfering, Behemoth might have kept Razer off balance for the entire fight and won easily. I can only say 'might have', we can't ever know. Just another reason to hate the house thugbots.

[@V0Rtexty]

@@cr10001 you cant pin a robot forever and win

[@DouglasP_]

What about Dead Metal putting Razer away from the flame pit where they cannot self right?

[@Hello_there_obi]

@@cr10001 back then there was no ref to “break it up” so to speak. That’s all they did. Razor came back strong and was the only one to score actual damage.

[@legodude494]

A well won win for Razer, and the first time they actually won a competition in Robot Wars! Chaos 2 didn't seem to have the best luck in this championship, having its gas line broken in both of its fights which also showed a weakness of Chaos 2 in that the lines and CO2 workings are all exposed at the rear of the robot. Much of the other robots in this competition were pretty poor, and it was a little unfair to have three robots fighting for England, but since much of the third series was English teams I suppose there wasn't much of a choice!

[@EJK-is1do]

I’ve always wondered if this was filmed before or after Series 3

[@cdname47]

After. They go to great lengths to avoid saying chaos 2 is a champion because this was released halfway through the run of series 3 on tv

[@ryanodonovan9497]

@@cdname47 What do you mean? Weren't people only aware that this competition even existed when it was shown as a competition prize in the broadcast of the Series 3 Grand Final? That's not halfway through the series, that's pretty much at the end of it (I say "pretty much" because the International League Championship was shown later on). I watched Robot Wars religiously during this time, and I knew nothing about the First World Championship until it was talked about as I described.

[@avonacolyte]

Philippa gets considerably more pregnant as this episode goes along, and more so by the quarter finals of this than she was in the Series 3 Grand Final.

[@baalfgames5318]

This event also made us in the USA look weak (for once). Out of our robots, one broke easily and the other was disqualified. (I've seen Mauler compete in the US, though, but he was never a threat in Battlebots.)

[@christy6610]

43:55 oh okay i thought i was gonna be preying to help superbunny

[@RikoJAmado]

Diotoir catches fire. Because of course it does.

[@434444334]

That’s the razor I remember a MENESS to robots to the point where so many copy it

[@artimas23]

This is a great world championship but did any lone notice that nearly everyone hade a bit of deatore fur including razor have some but I do love deatore and I forgot how good razor was

[@KuDastardly]

Oh man, if they only knew how violent and lethal Robot Wars and Battlebots would become over the span of two decades.

[@cr10001]

I thought Chaos 2 was as good as dead when both Killerhurtz and Shunt axed it. And it lost a CO2 bottle. But then it came back,, and still flipping - does it have a reserve bottle? That's a hell of a tough robot!! But then it got drawn against Razer and both Razer and Dead Metal attacked it - do the house thugbots have a prejudice against Chaos? I don't blame Chaos for diving into the pit, most sensible thing to do to avoid further gratuitous damage at that point.

[@DoctorTooploop]

that feeling when you're unsure if some of these robots were just there as a joke or not

[@baalfgames5318]

It would be funny if they only had USA on here as a joke to poke fun at our ego, since neither of our robots did well. One broke easily, and the other got disqualified.

[@squeakyelbows]

That's the same clip they used when giving Razer the trophy for the International League Championships

[@TailsFan369no2]

stewartthehuman cheap and another reason why I find razer overrated

[@ryanodonovan9497]

@@TailsFan369no2 You find Razer to be overrated because of cheap editing on the producers' part (something that Team Razer and their robot had nothing to do with)? That doesn't make any sense. Besides, if anything, it's LESS attention that Razer got since there's no footage of the team receiving the trophy they won in this competition. Sure, it's cheap and lazy. But how is less attention overrating something or someone?

[@TheMysteriouswatcher]

@@ryanodonovan9497 I think Razer is overrated simply because their OP weapon carries them through poor driving and decision making. How Razer wasn't immobilized when Behemoth left him on the flame grill for at least 30 seconds after dominating the entire match up until that point was absolutely silly.

[@ryanodonovan9497]

@@TheMysteriouswatcher No, it wasn't silly, because the flame grille isn't supposed to trap robots in place. That's why Dead Metal pushed Razer off, without righting it, to see if it was genuinely unable to self-right or was just stuck. If Razer couldn't self-right without being pinned (which Behemoth was doing prior to the predicament over the flame grille) or trapped, _then_ Behemoth would've won. And look at Abaddon and Death Warmed Up - they were lesser robots in this same series that competed once, lost in their first round and never fought again, and yet they too got pushed off the flame grille for the exact same reason. So Razer wasn't getting biased treatment either. Besides, Behemoth still had the rest of the fight to continue to dominate as you put it, but it didn't. Razer turned the tide by crushing Behemoth's sides for the rest of the battle (with damage being the most important of the four criteria in scoring points), and apparently even damaging one or more of Behemoth's wheels which would've lessened the latter's mobility, adding to Razer's scoring. Razer got so much praise because it EARNED it. It was more successful than any other robot without cheating or fighting unfairly. You don't gain more success than anyone else in the show's history with poor driving. Having a powerful weapon is one thing - how you drive to bring the weapon into play is something else. The fact you find Razer to be overrated is your problem.

[@jedg9309]

Everybody has a part of Diotoir on own robot :D

[@Daniel_Nye]

Kind of surprised about the finale. I get what you guys mean though. The shremech wings of Razer got caught on the grill of the flame pit. I remember seeing one of the other DVDs they mentioned that around this time the house robots were used to see if the competitors were actually immobolised, and that is why Refbot came in the 4th wars, say what you will about Refbot but at least it gave a better continuity by keeping HRs more like villians. What I AM surprised hasn't been mentioned is Prometheus had a blade as you saw in the clip where they talk about the machine but in battle, nowhere to be seen. Also the fact that the actual International teams, as aposed to European teams, seemed to have technical problems. A bit too coincidental, no? I say this but I am from England so take it as you will.

[@samuelkirkwood6702]

I noticed that to on Prometheus, must have been something to do with health and safety.

[@cr10001]

This incarnation of Behemoth looks much squatter than most of them. But that scoop is very effective. They might have won the final if the bloody house robots hadn't interfered - they had Razer on its side and the house robots saved it, twice. Yes of course Razer might have managed to escape and right itself without a helping hand, but we'll never know. That stinks.

[@ryanodonovan9497]

The House Robots didn't interfere - they were enforcing the rules. Matlida separated Behemoth and Razer because the former was pressing the latter down for an extended amount of time, and you can't legally immobilise your opposition by pinning them in place. Besides, _she_ didn't right Razer; Behemoth did. And Dead Metal pushed Razer off the flame grille because that hazard's not supposed to trap robots in place, which is what it did to prevent Razer self-righting. If the flame grille damages a robot in a way that immobilises it, that's one thing. But it still has to be separated from the hazard first to see if that's the case. But it wasn't, as Razer self-righted, came back, and outdid Behemoth's offense. And you can't call it bias in favour of Razer like those hypocrites who hate the robot for stupid reasons say, because lesser robots in this series Abaddon and Death Warmed Up also got separated from the flame grille for the exact same reason. Not all the rules were communicated well to the audience, but they were what they were.

[@cr10001]

@@ryanodonovan9497 I just re-watched. Behemoth wasn't 'pinning' Razer, it was pushing Razer across the floor upside down during which Razer rolled from one side to the other, for all of 15 seconds before Matilda jumped in - Razer takes longer than that to grip its victims! It wasn't 'pinning' Razer in place at any point. Watching it again I still get the distinct impression the house robots were very keen to 'help' Razer out of any awkward spots. The trouble with the house robots - they frequently break the rules . To the point where it's never sure if they're going to help a robot or attack it. JP's commentary implying that the house robots are holding grudges and waiting to attack some competitors don't help, nor does his glee when they smash up somebody's robot (how do the 'rules' even allow that?). The root of the trouble is the producers' stupid idea to give the house robots 'personalities' - when they're much bigger and heavier than the competing robots, how could they do otherwise than end up as thugs? And the editing (cutting) of most fights makes it hard to see what's actually going on.

[@ryanodonovan9497]

@@cr10001 What you described Behemoth doing WAS a pin. It was pressing Razer down on its side with the former’s scoop, preventing it from self-righting. That counts as pinning whether moving Razer around like that or not, thus Matilda separated it when it went as far as it did. Razer on the other hand released its holds on Behemoth by itself in good time, and didn’t exceed the permitted time. The House Robots always performed such separations when necessary. It wasn’t done in favour of Razer; as I said, Abaddon and Death Warmed Up were inferior robots in this series that lost their first-round battles and never returned, yet they were separated from the flame grille for the exact same reason Razer was here. This intervention of the House Robots was to enforce the rules, though it did cause confusion (as you indicated) as it was inconsistent with their personalities, thus prompting the need for Refbot to be built for the next series to perform those tasks. I do get your point that the House Robots got in the way here and there, but they were necessary for the entertainment factor (especially earlier on with so many inexperienced teams and primitive robots), and it was at least proven to be manageable to where it could have its place without causing fluke victories. It wasn’t flawless; things went wrong here and there, but there’s never a perfect way of doing it.

[@johnleach7879]

"Eppic battle"? Hardly. Diotor and the other one were more like two geriatrics quarlling over a place on a park bench.

[@DjNikGnashers]

The best era of robot wars, with crackhead craig in control.

[@StFidjnr]

39:46 George Francis knows the old adage "he who runs away get's to fight another day"

[@danielfennessey]

Against Bot's like Razer, It's certainly not a tactic I'd sniff at.

[@StFidjnr]

but when your weapon is disabled you're have to

[@ajp9485]

Watching back all the series at the moment and Behemoth was robbed here. No I remember that battle and thinking the same at the time.

[@ryanodonovan9497]

Well, you're wrong, both back then and now, because Behemoth wasn't robbed. Razer's attacks were better, as they not only equalled Behemoth's aggression, but inflicted significant DAMAGE, which is the most important of the scoring criteria. You want an example of a robot being wrongfully penalised for damage when the work it put in was vastly superior to that? Watch the Grand Final of Series 7. And just in case you're thinking of saying that the House Robots unfairly helped Razer, they didn't. They simply enforced rules. Matilda separated Behemoth from Razer because the former was pressing against the latter for longer than what was legal. And it wasn't Matilda who put Razer back on its wheels; Behemoth did. Nor did Dead Metal put Razer back on its wheels; it did so itself. But he pushed Razer off the flame grille because it's not a hazard that's supposed to trap robots in place. And no, this wasn't something made up to be biased for Razer like what hypocritical naysayers of the robot would say, because earlier on in this series Abaddon and Death Warmed Up got separated from the flame grille for the exact same reason Razer was here, and those were terrible newcomers that failed in the first round. If there's no bias for them, it's hypocritical to say otherwise about Razer. Razer was the rightful winner, and that's that.

[@ajp9485]

@ I didn’t know you were one of the judges back then. It’s about opinions and unless you’re Noel Sharkey or one of the other judges at the time, then my point stands. Behemoth was more aggressive, controlled and stylish for the majority of the fight, especially flipping Razer and pushing it onto the flame grill, which would have done some internal damage. You also sort of contradict what you say about the damage. Yeah, it’s supposed to be considered more but it’s not the overall deciding factor and you suggest in the series 7 finale the judges overlooked that, so it’s all about opinions. If for instance I disagreed with the series 7 result, you wouldn’t say I was wrong because I’d share your opinion. Nobody said anything about the house robots either, they were largely spectators for the fight. Razer was upside down for a while and before Ref Bot, you’d be classed as eliminated if you couldn’t self right after so long. So you can see why Ref Bot was brought in. I’m surprised if so many people didn’t think Behemoth should have won really.

[@ryanodonovan9497]

@@ajp9485 I don't care how many people think that. The point is - those who do are wrong. Behemoth was NOT the better of the two. It got a couple of flips on RAZER (not Razor - there are FIVE KEYS between the E and O buttons), but Razer outdid that by crushing Behemoth on both sides. It also took aggression, control and style of its own to carry out, so it's not a case where damage can be outdone by some majority. And not only did Razer's attacks inflict the only damage whereas Behemoth inflicted none on Razer whatsoever, apparently it even lessened Behemoth's mobility. So all the more reason to penalise Behemoth there. And Razer being on its back for as long as it was was mostly because of Behemoth pressing against it for longer than what was allowed, and because of Razer getting stuck on the flame grille when that's a hazard that's not meant to trap robots in place. Also, I KNOW you said nothing about the House Robots' involvement, hence why I clearly started on that point by saying JUST IN CASE you were thinking they wrongfully intervened. It's just that more often than not, naysayers do bring that up when it comes to this debate, thus I thought you might be thinking that yourself. What I say is not a matter of opinion - it's a matter of fact. Your point does not stand, I contradicted nothing of what I've said and Behemoth was not robbed. And I don't need to have been one of the judges to know all this, especially when I'm going by the RULES here. So you can keep your sarcasm to yourself.

[@ajp9485]

@@ryanodonovan9497 Well they all have a point that many other people agree with. You can’t pin continuously but Behemoth did flip Razer back over. Haha what you on about? I’ve put RAZER. Read it properly, as you just copy and paste the exact same response to comments on here. ‘Wrong’, ‘Not Razor, there’s five keys between E and O’ & ‘Hypocritical naysayers’. Ruling with an iron fist because they make a typo or because they have a different opinion. You’re one charlatan.

[@ryanodonovan9497]

​@@ajp9485 *"Well they all have a point that many other people agree with. You can’t pin continuously but Behemoth did flip Razer back over."* You're not making any sense. First you emphasised Behemoth keeping Razer over for a long time and then mention Behemoth putting Razer back over as if that somehow proves your point? And you ask me what _I'm_ on about... Also, I'm not a charlatan, and you don't even know what a charlatan is. A charlatan is someone who falsely claims to have a special knowledge or skill, but the facts and logic that I point out aren't special, nor do they require any skill other than to put bias aside and look at things fairly and objectively. It doesn't take "ruling with an iron fist", so you can keep that exaggeration to yourself also. And don't give me that nonsense about having a different opinion. Having an opinion is one thing - using it as an excuse to spread misinformation is something else. Also, *"I’ve put RAZER. Read it properly, as you just copy and paste the exact same response to comments on here."* You're not fooling anybody here by acting all smug when you've no right to. Before you EDITED your reply, you did type 'Razor', so don't act like you didn't. I don't point out people making such a big error of a typo if they don't, and it's nothing to do with me copying and pasting. You're nobody to tell me to read properly when it's you who failed at that.

[@tylervielie5767]

What was the point of inviting The Mauler if they weren't allowed to compete?

[@ryanodonovan9497]

Mentorn just did a poor job of assessing Mauler's damage potential until it was too late. Trust me, they did a poor job in general in handling safety and scheduling in Series 3.

[@majorkilljoy]

34:50 what did he say and what does it mean?

[@davidfearis7335]

It would appear Rob Knight of Mortis allowed his Arrogance to get the better of his Judgement once again!

[@dasbanhammer]

35:50 yay, weird interviews, long time no see

[@StFidjnr]

22:23 techno-lease weakness no self righter

[@eddhardcore6881]

kind of funny to see one from usa disqualified for health and safety concerns when it is now well known that the amount of health and safety breaches behind the scenes was one of the main reasons the show got axed

[@ryanodonovan9497]

Health and safety breaches had nothing to do with Robot Wars getting cancelled. Sure, the arena was starting to get too fragile for so much weight and heavy impacts, but it was simply a case of pausing battles until it was repaired. It wasn't anything behind the scenes like it was in Series 3. What really caused the show to end was a combination of public interest fading away, the controller of Five being so biased against the show that he fucked around with the scheduling to lessen people's chances of seeing it, and Mentorn going way too far with what they considered "entertainment", to the point of alienating competitors and meddling with genuine competition.

[@apbweezle]

Many of these bots are like... they can't do any damage. Like what are they thinking? They can build a bot, which takes knowledge and intelligence, but when it comes to usability it's retardation-warning. It makes no sense.

[@GeneralCodeBlue]

silvercrow what are you on about?

[@carribob1992]

Amy and Mike Franklin were briefly prepared to give Super Bunny a warriors death.

[@Frosty_tha_Snowman]

11:04 funny - as a Kansan on the border to Missouri, we have a saying for people who drive badly - we refer to them as "Missouri Drivers" and you wouldn't believe how often someone driving like an idiot actually is from Missouri. Like, seriously, about 1/3 of the time or more.

[@jimosborn3411]

Some say Rob Knight is still chewing on the same piece of gum. Gum putting up more of a fight than the £30,000 robot//

[@upmarketcrayon]

Holy shit that intro

[@ryanodonovan9497]

I'll never get why 101 was chosen as one of those to represent England in this tournament when there were far more well-established robots they could've put in the spot like Firestorm or Hypno-Disc. I never saw 101 as anything special just because of its cost-effectiveness. The robot always bored me to death for being a simplistic design with a weedy little spike that never damaged shit in a fight. But more importantly than that, the only reason it got far in any competition was because their opponents were piss-easy to beat, or they were the better in a fight but lost only because of bad luck, and not because of anything 101 did to them. The latter was pretty clear with how they got past Panic Attack in this tournament. It's what made it so satisfying for me to watch 101 get chewed up and spat out by Razer.

[@asdfghyter]

It's not a bad pusherbot. It has good strength, speed, and survivability and has a decent chance of pushing bots into the pit or CPs. Also, the driver is not half bad.

[@ryanodonovan9497]

I said nothing about 101's durability, pushing power or Mike Franklin's driving ability. You're right about those strengths, but those strengths aren't really what got 101 far in any competition. It's that its opposition was either easy as hell, or they were better in the fight until they just unluckily died out in some way that was none of 101's doing. I will agree that 101's victory over Weld-Dor in this competition was a competitive battle that the former won fair and square, but 101 wouldn't have even been in that round if Panic Attack didn't reverse into the pit accidentally in the first round.

[@formyself2826]

Agreed

[@paulthompson382]

I agree it isn't one of the strongest robots, but I can think of a few potential reasons. Firstly, it's not gonna break down which, considering how many non-battles there were in series 3 I'm guessing they didn't want that. Secondly, Mike Franklin seemed to be one of the more popular and better engineers in the pits so it was probably partly as a popularity thing maybe? They also would probably not want Hypno Disc to compete because the roboteers who traveled across the world wouldn't want their robots leaving in a bin bag, and 101 isn't gonna do that (similarly they maybe didn't want too many flippers because not many foreign robots had srimechs?). This was also a time when they were trying to get Robot Wars to take off in mainland Europe and Australia, so showing a robot that was cheap and accessible for normal people while still being successful was probably another plus. All of these are me just guessing btw, I could be way off.

[@ryanodonovan9497]

@@paulthompson382 Firstly, I get that 101 wasn't likely to break down, but then again Firestorm and Hypno-Disc didn't break down during Series 3 either. Well, Hypno-Disc apparently did right before Chaos 2 turned it over, but it was literally at the end of the UK Championship. Secondly, how was Mike Franklin more popular than Firestorm being an improvement on the similarly designed Cassius, or Hypno-Disc being the robot that took the standard of destruction on Robot Wars to the next level, and additionally BEAT 101 in Series 3? Thirdly, so what if there was a possibility of foreign robots ending up in a bin bag? Did it not occur to the teams that they should always be prepared for such when taking their machines into a WAR ZONE? It seems more to me like needless pandering than a proper reason to not have Hypno-Disc. Hell, they tried to get Mauler in there before they saw how much of a health and safety hazard it was! So why not have a spinner that _wasn't_ so dangerous? And what about Razer? Would that not have been enough to permanently scrap its opposition? Hell, Mike Franklin even tried to get the team to avoid crushing 101's motors so that it could compete in Series 4! It only didn't come to that because he packed 101's insides with wood. And that's not even a foreign robot. The same thing goes for not having too many flippers because of the foreigners not having srimechs - that's not the domestic competition's problem. It's the foreign teams' own. Basically, whenever there's an international and/or gimmick tournament of any kind in Robot Wars, I personally hope for each robot to be well chosen for it. Let's look at the robots representing the British Isles in this alone. Diotoir made sense for Ireland because of the team's historic popularity, but it was also a robot that (unlike 101) managed to legitimately best all of its opposition before losing to Firestorm in its Heat final. What other Irish robot had that kind of success? The exact same goes for Weld-Dor and All Torque (minus that same kind of popularity) representing Northern Ireland and Scotland respectively. Panic Attack obviously made sense for Wales as a result of it being the Series 2 UK Champion. And for the English robots, Razer made sense because of its innovation and deserved more of a chance to live up to its true potential. Mortis made sense because of the team's own popularity, as well as also being potentially dominant. Behemoth didn't have much to its name, but at least it (along with Razer and Mortis) defeated all of its opposition legitimately before finally losing. And Chaos 2 obviously made sense for being the current UK Champion. But 101? What did 101 have to equal any of that (considering what I've already pointed out about it)? Even if we're only to look at its engineering and cost-effectiveness, it's not like either ever even got the robot nominated for the Best Engineered or Best Design Awards.

[@lazy0nara]

Super Bunny!!!

[@colbygleason2955]

Will you do Series 5 after Series 3? That marks both of my favorite wars uploaded one after another!

[@njgw1465]

I don't mind what series is uploaded next - it's up to you guys. It'll probably be Extreme or Series 5, though, because Series 2 is currently being recorded again and I need to redo some Series 6 episodes.

[@Johnno9989]

I did have fun watching this. However, I would've liked to have seen more non-western robots competing. There was quite a lot of them from England.

[@ryanodonovan9497]

Maybe most non-western countries didn't have anything to put into play at the time?

[@Johnno9989]

@@ryanodonovan9497 that would make sense

[@MadMike1978racing]

The officials must've known of The Mauler's history in Battlebots.

[@vitakyo982]

These hammer weapons look ridiculous

[@econecoff1725]

26:06, the future builder of Beta, per Battlebots.

[@johnathanpatrick6118]

24:57...CHOKE JOB!!!!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Panic Attack got too greedy...

[@xtheamazingax]

101 had enough traction on one of its tracks to circle Panic Attack around and into the pit. They were caught out by that big time...

[@ryanodonovan9497]

​@@xtheamazingax Panic Attack drove itself into the pit on a driving error, not on anything 101 did. Otherwise, why was it that when the former was reversing, it sped up halfway through? Besides, a little amount of 101's traction can't possibly have out-pushed Panic Attack when the latter was firmly on the ground.

[@SullyTheCollabGuy]

That weapon when they lost to Cerberus by deafault

[@baalfgames5318]

I swear, these Robot Wars world events make German engineers look like a joke.

[@davidfearis7335]

29:25 Would THE MAULER'S WEAPON Have Been Safe If It Was Series 4 Onward?

[@ryanodonovan9497]

Well it must've been deemed safe, since Mauler _did_ compete in the Series 4 arena for... something I'll just copy and paste from the Robot Wars Fandom page... _"Mauler also competed in the unaired MTV pilot American Robot Wars 2000, as one of the eight robots selected to compete. When the number of competing teams was reduced to four due to one team withdrawing, Mauler passed its audition thanks to Morgan Tilford's giant foam cowboy hat and "manic energy"._ _In its first-round battle, Mauler fought Spike. At some point during the battle, Mauler got up to speed and collided with Spike, causing sparks to fly. It managed to rip off the doll head attached to Spike, causing it to fly across the arena. It was unknown whether the battle ended in a knockout or judges' decision, but Mauler was declared the winner._ _Mauler qualified for the final, where it fought frenZy. During the battle, Mauler's top was attacked by frenZy, but the nature of Mauler's spinner managed to tear away frenZy's spiked blade. Mauler was then able to attack frenZy with its spinner and ultimately emerge victorious, winning American Robot Wars 2000 outright."_

[@DouglasP_]

Dead Metal saving Razer in the final, LOL

[@ryanodonovan9497]

Dead Metal didn't "save" Razer; he was following RULES. It's not like he put Razer back on its wheels, and even if he did, Razer needed to be separated from the flame grille to see if it was _actually_ immobile or just stuck where it shouldn't be (flame grilles and angle grinders aren't supposed to trap robots in place). And in case you're thinking this was just an excuse to give Razer special treatment like what biased and hypocritical naysayers of the robot say, no it wasn't. Abaddon and Death Warmed Up got separated from the flame grille in this same series for the exact same reason Razer was here, and they were weak robots that lost in their first round battles and never returned. I bet you wouldn't call _those_ saves.

[@andyausman2139]

One robot kick ass! Otherwise behemoth, the others didn't stand a chance!

[@faramarzghassemi9202]

How the hell did they draw? they put two very weak teams like diotor & cerberus together which led diotor to the next round and at the same time they put chaos2 and razer against each other which caused an excellent team like chaos2 out of the competition! This is sooo f...d up!

[@andrewlabdon2794]

Diotoir actually live to be on fire...

[@mothtolias]

I'm glad superbunny didn't get hurt. poor thing.

[@parkerwicker]

Really, invite Mauler, then say that it is not safe. WHAT

[@ryanodonovan9497]

@@TomCat681 No, it wasn't. If an arena's not safe enough for such potent weaponry, it's not safe enough. Know that Jeremy Clarkson was almost killed when Dead Metal's saw once detached, flew off at 200mph and lodged into a wall, INCHES from his head. Safety always takes top priority. The real stupidity was in Mentorn not seeing Mauler's hazardous potential for the Robot Wars arena at that time until the last moment. If they did, they could've just looked for another machine less hazardous and avoided wasting the Mauler team's time and money in coming to the UK.

[@TomCat681]

@@ryanodonovan9497 Oh right. I understood now

[@kingkillerstripe1211]

I actually like Diotior especially when they beat that stupid robot tornado

[@killdozer7792]

Tornado isn't stupid, you're just butthurt that Razer lost. Tornado didn't cheat, deal with it.

[@ajtct98]

@@killdozer7792 It may not have been cheating but it was as damn close to it as you can get

[@BambiTrout]

@@ajtct98 Yeah. It was definitely a case of milking a loophole to the extreme. "Let's add an interchangeable "weapon" and make the mounting for it just a tiny bit smaller than ALL of the max dimensions so that no weapons can reach us and we cannot be pitted so there is no literally no way that we can be defeated unless we break down." I agree with the Tornado fans that they technically didn't break any rules, and I can even accept that they were given the victory as a result, but it was EXTREMELY unsporting, cheap, and infuriating to watch.

[@ryanodonovan9497]

@@killdozer7792 As much as I think that calling a robot stupid without any context is kind of childish, how can you (therefore) even assume that him insulting Tornado was motivated by the controversy with Razer, let alone that he's biased in favour of the latter? I disliked Tornado prior to any of that. Is it not possible he was the same? I'm just saying that if you're trying to say someone's wrong about something, making assumptions of them won't help your credibility.

[@nacita6558]

wait that robot why couldnt it be on the fight why not allowed

[@SneadGamuma]

What's the year shown there?

[@thisissolidsnake97]

Mortis = £30000 , Razor = £800 😂

[@formyself2826]

Ikr

[@Frosty_tha_Snowman]

I feel like the first version of Mortis had a stronger axe...

[@Frosty_tha_Snowman]

101 would have been 101× better with wedgelets, forks, or a scoop.

[@Cykelpump33]

I can't stand how lucky 101 was in the first stage. It's just a heap of junk that's incredibly vulnerable... Also wtf Shunt?!?! First attacking Chaos 2 and then attacking Killerhurtz who had the upper hand

[@ryanodonovan9497]

Killerhurtz had made contact with the CPZ, so Shunt was within legal right to attack it. Remember also that the House Robots' purpose isn't to be fair, but to be giant mechanised bullies. The only rule for them is that they're not allowed to attack a robot unless it enters their CPZ or is declared as eliminated; they don't have to attack the first competitor that comes into their CPZ if there's more than one there. Hell, they're not even obliged to attack anyone at all. And what does it matter anyway in this case when Shunt _did_ attack in the order of who made contact with his CPZ? Sure, he probably only saw a chance to get back at Chaos 2 after it turned him over in the UK Grand Final and he was left knocking pieces of himself off when trying unsuccessfully to self-right, but still. I completely agree with you about 101, though. I never would've even chosen it to represent England when it almost never won without sheer dumb luck on its side, and certainly not before this tournament. Sure, it beat Weld-Dor decisively here, but only after more sheer dumb luck getting past Panic Attack despite the latter blatantly being better. 101 is one of the most overrated robots I've ever seen, as if its cost-effectiveness was really that special. And I loved seeing it get crushed by Razer here and brutally retired by Fluffy in Series 5. Why couldn't Mentorn have put Hypno-Disc in 101's place here? You know, the robot that not only BEAT 101 earlier in this series, but won the Most Original Entry Award for a design that set the standard of destruction - robotic combat's main purpose - for years to come?

[@Cirelgasp]

21:16 *bing!*

[@brainstorm9560]

How irritating that the ones who traveled the furtest distance are the ones who are taken out first.

[@unapologeticallylizzy]

I'd have liked to see more robots from other countries - these are mostly English or from other places in the UK and some of the foreign ones aren't actually from those countries which you can easily tell from their accents. Kind of disappointing. There were still some awesome battles though, and this is a great watch.

[@TheMugenmunster]

The Brits would've loved a bot like nightmare

[@theevildalek5425]

are you going to do the second wars.

[@njgw1465]

Indeed, I am!

[@conorsmith1325]

watching the final once more I honestly think there was some "producer intervention" when matilda shoved razer out of behemoths way if it wasnt for that behemoth couldve have pinned razer on the wall otherwise was a good fight and razer fought back strongly

[@cdname47]

There's a limit how long you can pin robots. This is why the refbot was introduced for the next series, to make things like this seem more fair and keep the house robots in "attack" mode, rather than having to enforce the rules Damage is always 3x more important in the judges criteria, so razer was right to get it.

[@killdozer7792]

The rules clearly state that a robot cannot win by holding or pinning another robot in place. The house robots regularly seperate robots that are stuck together or continually pinned. There is specifically a 30 second holding rule - always has been - and Behemoth was clearly encroaching that.

[@akjackson9326]

I notice with Weld-Dor he says 'North of Ireland' rather than Northern Ireland, and also in the normal Series 3 it's mentioned the captain plays gaelic football (heavily associated with the nationalist community in NI). Something tells me they weren't exactly enthusiastic about having the NI flag slapped on them.

[@BenderSoprano]

Kevin Spacey at 10:30 😂

[@phonyphoner265]

42:06 how the hell does he chew his gum o.o

[@UKWEED]

ikr

[@jedg9309]

wtf was Chaos 2 doing vs Killerhurtz