NEW Bagless System for Self Emptying Bin Roomba S9+ and Roomba I7+ | How to make a Bagless System 😁

[@MegaZiggo]

Nathan, The reason the self emptying bin didn’t get all of the imperials is because you just effectively created a dead head. The normal bag allows air flow through it while capturing the dirt. That Tupperware bowl is now effectively a clog in the air path. You need to allow air to flow through the bowl just like the normal bag does. Maybe cut the bottom of the bowl out and place a filter media that will allow air flow through it (maybe a scotch brite pad or a very fine screen (that would allow air flow, but would still would not be as good as the bag because all surfaces of the bad allow airflow)...

[@RobotMasters]

Yes my second version will have a breathable filter to allow air to pass through. Thanks, should have the updated version soon

[@jamesbizs]

Lol I was shocked that a vacuum expert didn’t understand how a vacuum bag works. I barely know anything about them, but even I knew from the start that this wouldn’t work the way he was doing it. And it didn’t

[@anticheater5049]

@@RobotMasters Have you done the second version? Can you give a link on that video?

[@RobotMasters]

@@anticheater5049 I never got around to making a 2nd video sorry.

[@vagabundierendeskatzchen7500]

@@RobotMasters waiting for the second video too!

[@TheTruthSeekerMe]

Hm i don’t understand why people don’t simply remove dirt out of the original roomba dirt bag? That’s what I’ve been doing and haven’t had to replace the bag since I purchased the robot 6 months ago

[@raullima7620]

Great idea, missing airflow like others said. I say use one or two of the square filters from the dust bin and add them as air outtakes which should solve your airflow issue while still keeping the system semi-reusable since the small filters are cheaper

[@coleboiyeye3558]

The roomba is supposed to save time but I spend all of it Watching it

[@RobotMasters]

LOL me too they are fascinating too watch. I like when they go under the bed and apparently never come out again.

[@coleboiyeye3558]

Lol

[@broughtupright7269]

A quick way to empty any full vacuum bag is to hold it up to the intake of a shop vac. I use a 2" shop vac without the hose attached and, while the gray plastic gate valve is sucked against the shop vac, pull/move around the bag fabric to loosen up the contents. A few clumps of pet hair may have to be pinched out but, even so, it only takes about a minute to empty a full bag. Even while tilting the bag away from the shop vac to pinch out pet hair clumps the shop vac makes it an easy dust free process and you're saving money while recycling. 💰♻️🌎

[@Grainsauce]

Great idea, quick question what are all of the tubberware lids doing on the vacuums??

[@donfullbright8468]

What a great idea. This will save a ton of money. Keep coming up with great ideas.

[@mcadenasp]

HI friend I have an issue with my I3 Roomba, clean base don't detect any bags, even new originals! red light is always on do you have a solutions for this? thanks!

[@RobotMasters]

Hmmmm there a physical switch where the dust bag slots into. Carefully inspect to see if the bag is fully seated and is inside the groove of the track where the bag slots into. If the bag is fully seated and the red indicator still lite, see if you can take a flat head screw driver and manually move the switch. Does the red indicator light go out? If not it could be a faulty switch.

[@justinn3643]

Do not, I repeat DO NOT do this to your i7+ or s9+! The the filter material of the bags is spscifically designed to not allow dirt to pass into the motor of the clean base and by bypassing this system you risk severe damage to the suction motor of the base. If you have already made the investment into this system it is imperative that you maintain it properly and this is not proper! You will damage your machine in the long run by putting unnecessary stress on the motor and by modifying the filtration system. It is simply not worth it to do this to your robot.

[@RobotMasters]

Vacuum Central Thank you for your concern. So I have made several attempts to make a bag less system and ended up using a part of the original bag from iRobot. I understand that if dirt and other debris may get into the motor which will damage the system. There a secondary filter down at the bottom which prevents the fine dirt and particles to get into the vacuum motor housing. Sorry for the confusion.

[@speedlever]

Vacuum Central After using a bagless upright at a vacation home, I couldn’t agree more that converting the Roomba is a waste. What I found is that emptying the dustbin of the bagless vacuum put so much dust back into the room, I had to take it outside to empty it every time. Otherwise, it was just a nasty process to empty the dustbin inside the house. I’ll never own a bagless vacuum other than a robot, if I can help it. And that’s why I plan to buy an i7+ shortly as it’s a bagged system. I don’t understand the attraction of a bagless system unless you use a a Rainbow and trap the dust and dirt in water.

[@Emmanuel-ti6ym]

@@RobotMasters They just don't want to lose money by having less people purchase their replaceable bags

[@MikesPikes]

quick concern about wearing out the dock’s compressor over time due to obstructed air flow

[@jamesdodson9417]

I love how he jumped into action

[@anthonysaponaro6318]

I’d like to know how the heck the plastic Tupperware is able to vent, the bag works because it is able to pull air through it while keeping debris inside so it does not make the room dusty, they kind of like filters as well as collection bins . . .

[@mastaknee1]

Are you going to make one for the roborock?

[@RobotMasters]

I think Roborock created a bagless canister for their S7

[@greattovic]

I though you need to make a venting side at one side of that container. The air that needed to deliver those dusts to the container would makes a pressure at some point and would open it. Just make a hole and cover it with the linen from the original bag...

[@BrennansMusic]

You are a fucking genius. Why the hell did they not think of this when designing the robots. You just made my robot shopping a hole lot easier. Thanks so much.

[@RobotMasters]

LOL 😆

[@MartinKubaS5]

Great idea Nathan!!!! This is really great idea, and finally, YOU HAVE GOT INTRO!!!!!!! YAAAAAY!!!!!! :D

[@RobotMasters]

Martin Kuba Thanks glad you like my intro slide 😮😀

[@robovaccollector]

@@RobotMasters i love it :D (do not forget i'm that same martin kuba like that one :D)

[@RobotMasters]

🤔🤔🤔 same person 🤯🤯🤯

[@jonnylee8538]

Hi Nathan, for Ecovacs AES. Is there any way to know if the bag is full without physically checking the bag, like some sort of notifications on the app or the indicator light from the AES itself?

[@RobotMasters]

Hi so not sure if the self emptying system has a sensor to let it know if the bag is full.

[@lamvinhphuoc010]

Please cut a hole and surround the rubber box with several layers of fabric to increase the suction power for the plastic container

[@itziklugassy1493]

I would like to know at the said what trash (silver) is it? Look nice would love get a link

[@iamdenislara]

I dont understand how the suction works if the Tupperware is seal. I thought the material of the bag help for the suction.

[@RobotMasters]

There a small crack in the lid to allow airflow, and the lid was lifted up slightly after running to allow additional airflow, probably not as efficient

[@iamdenislara]

@@RobotMasters ok so the dirt will make its way out of the tupperware and you will have to clean the inside of the the dirt disposal unit no?

[@RobotMasters]

@@iamdenislara You are probably right about that I will perfect using breathable weed barrier

[@RobotMasters]

@@Ethan-yo3yg No I haven't

[@RobotMasters]

Hello everyone, so let me clarify some things which I failed to show in the video. The video itself is not fake, some candy did make it to the container. There a small crack on the lid to allow some airflow but while I was running the self emptying bin and filming the lid did lift up slightly to allow additional airflow. While the bag is more efficient and would of pulled up more candies I am still perfecting this bageless system. I think using the breathable bag material to cover the bottom might help, I will be posting another video of my improved design and see if I can film the inside of the self emptying bin in action too 😁. Sorry for the confusion and this video wasn’t designed to be misleading or fake in anyway.

[@jvc5572]

Robot Masters looking forward to checking out the next video with your improved design! Hope it works! That would be great!

[@msrver]

The idea itself is brilliant. Don't apologize that the idea hadn't yet been perfected-it still opened others up to the idea that there are other options instead of wasting your money on the bags.

[@lamvinhphuoc010]

please buy 1 hepa sheet for home vacuuming combined with a plastic dust container I think hepa filters for house vacuum cleaners are rarely replaced we can use them in combination with homemade plastic boxes to make a bin Homemade container can increase suction power

[@ericcaldwell3584]

Do you think it would work better if you cut another hole in it and put a piece of cloth over it to let more air through the Tupperware? I'm thinking the motor has to pull the air from somewhere, and I'm thinking it goes through the gap between the lid and body of the Tupperware. If you lessen that restriction, would that allow more air to flow from the Roomba's dustbin and clean out more debris? (I'd put the hole with the cloth on the top side of the Tupperware (the side that faces up when it's installed into the base station).)

[@RobotMasters]

I think people were suggesting a breathable material, like the bags they use. Hope iRobot, will make a reusable bag or canister.

[@ericcaldwell3584]

@@RobotMasters Me too! I hate the idea of polluting the environment with plastic!

[@mmb1487]

Great Idea this will save us money instead of using bags and easy to clean as well Thank you Even if it didnt empty all the stuff in the tuberwear I Think if more stuff was inside it its possible it would have removed it its Still a great idea that you came up and with Thanks again

[@rickdavid1795]

Good stuff Thanks

[@GeoCabs]

The reason why it's not working properly is that your container is sealed. With a sealed container you are cutting the vacuum from the robot to the base. Here's my version kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHbcm6etlNWajrc which improves on your idea. I just used the container as a lid for easy access but still use the bag which retains vacuum from robot to base.

[@RobotMasters]

Thank you for the tip, yeah I didn't realize the container needed a breathable material for the vacuum process to work.

[@KenMickeletto]

I too choked when I watched this, because of the lack of an exhaust to the bin. I am going to build my own prototype/alteration to the existing bag system. Instead of replacing the bag for a plastic bin, I'm going to purchase a spool of sew in zippers and hot glue a fine toothed zipper to the back of the bag. Then unzip the zipper and cut out the opening. Airflow will still be at the same volume as before, but I will have easy access to remove dirt and debris. Since the material is made of fibrous plastic and plastic parts, I can even wash it with soap from time to time. My main reason for doing this? I purchased this for my vacation home in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico. While I *can* order these bags there, they are more than triple the cost because of import and tax fees. So getting the maximum life from a single bag is super important. If this works, I'll be able to simply stick a few in my bag when I fly down and never need to pay the crazy import taxes!

[@RobotMasters]

Yes thanks for sharing your experience, I think a breathable material would be best, a sealed system like a container doesn't work well with the vacuum system.

[@GeoCabs]

I had the same idea but I think the zipper will allow more fide dust to pass through. my version kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHbcm6etlNWajrc expand on Robot Masters idea. Having a lid makes is easier to take dirt out since it keeps the hole open when the lid is out.

[@jason.simone]

Breathable material is best for suction but it needs to be washable as the bag will start to clog and reduce airflow.

[@seanstewart285]

Do not do this. You clearly have no idea how vacuums work. Air needs to flow through the bag to create a literal vacuum using negative pressure. You’ve instead created a clog by using a non-permeable plastic solid membrane. This will not empty the contents of the roomba well and will cause unnecessary wear on the turbines.

[@mtaylorlv]

Genius

[@water331]

Don't know if you ever got to posting another video on this but it's an easy fix. Cut another hole on the bottom of the Tupper ware and tape a dryer sheet or some other filter media so itll "breath more freely.

[@ThatsTheCombinationOnMyLudgage]

How do you deal with the close the lid error

[@robinthomsoncomposer]

Brilliant

[@ericbass516]

I was going to try just vacuuming out my bag

[@soramame7528]

Does it work well? Can you shake the content out?

[@coldblackice]

Also curious about this

[@claudialievano9469]

Brilliant!!!!

[@bupbup777]

Why was your S9+ red light on the docking station? Just mean it's charging?

[@RobotMasters]

It a loss suction

[@Rite1010.]

Is this still working well for you?

[@RobotMasters]

No, went back to the disposable bags.

[@Rite1010.]

@@RobotMasters well I hope they make a reusable bin like the shark self empty has

[@RobotMasters]

@@Rite1010. Roborock just released a self emptying system, which has the option to use either a bag or bagless system.

[@Rite1010.]

@@RobotMasters I tried roborock, but I didn't like it as much. It just didn't do well on my rugs. I did just find an idea on Etsy. Cut a hole on the top of the bag and sew or hot glue a zipper on the bag. The bag isn't a huge deal, but irobot really stepped back into the 80's and 90's with it.

[@wesoakes]

It can’t suck air through the plastic like the bag. Add a filter to the Tupperware box.

[@RobotMasters]

Thanks for the tip

[@fabeharrold493]

You’re not crazy You’re gifted … If you start making things and selling them you’ll be rich…. If you’re not already.

[@AlexanderDinebier]

Am i the only one who recognises the sarcasm in this comment? 😂 You really don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand that air has to pass through the container to be able to work at all. Else the manufacturers would obviously construct these things already with closed containers.

[@RRGHOST2006]

@@AlexanderDinebier I think you replied to the wrong comment lol

[@AlexanderDinebier]

@@RRGHOST2006 That's weird. KZbin is showing me the reply below the right one. You didn't change your username over the past year, right?

[@karencasey5454]

Great idea!! You should sell this concept to Roomba and get it patented. I don't want to have to buy bags all the time. We have two dogs and the hair is never ending. Those little bags would probably hold maybe 3 days worth of hair. So, this is making Roomba money, because now, I will buy one. Thanks!!

[@MrBobbyw121]

Roomba knows about this.. but how can they take your money if they give you a bagless option

[@marcinurban3197]

bagless option is so easy to implement as SHARK somehow could implement ; ) (but not the most expensive robots on market hehe) - it is for sure only to steal Your money.... 1 bag for 2-4 weeks x12 a year gets expensive and time consuming to buy it. This is why i will buy Shark not this.

[@transammatt]

What a great idea. Maybe iRobot will pay you to make one for them. I would guess if iRobot came out with a bag less system they would sell many!!

[@RobotMasters]

Yes they would, but the Shark IQ has the bag less system got one coming

[@Hunterisadumb]

why... nooo... but the idea of it is pretty cool keep up the good work!

[@kiwibeast2162]

0:47 You said throw it in the trash but u missed! LOL

[@RobotMasters]

Just pretend I made it 🤣

[@robovaccollector]

Great idea, great intro, everything is great, but there is problem, it can't work, because you need a filter in that bin, or another hole with filter, this must does not work properly, another better idea for this is to buy a more use bag or universal bag for normal vacuums (it is on aliexpress for 2 $ and less) and fit it into bin AND I'M IN VIDEO!!!!! YAAAAY :D If you want, i send you email with my ideas to solve that problem, if you hating buying spare bags

[@RobotMasters]

Sure thanks for your suggestion and support, I do realize I didn’t show a hole and thought the entire container was completely sealed. There was a small crack at top and when the self emptying bin ran the container open up the lid slightly to add additional airflow so it technically worked. I will have an updated video

[@robovaccollector]

@@RobotMasters ok😉 i send you email with my ideas

[@WinnieChen-s7n]

May 19, 2024 5:24 pm. You have so many robot vacuum cleaners. Why?

[@MrStevegibb]

wow you made an airtight hoover bag lol.

[@RobotMasters]

Hahaha I failed

[@briancoats9223]

I am digging your bunny slippers man.

[@RobotMasters]

LOL 😂

[@eriklans8139]

Just cut a big hole in the original bag.. Youll never have to emty it.. Surprised no one came up with this simple solution..

[@RobotMasters]

Nice great solution 😂

[@travismarshall3089]

Ah! A most excellent exercise in thinking outside the box. I love a good DIY video. Someone out there with a 3D printer needs to run with this! Anyhoo, I hope by time you see this you're okay. I say that because I noticed a lid has someone's name on it (7:38) so, I figured you're going to GET IT when a certain someone goes to grab their anticipated lunch out of the refrigerator and sees that it's gone! 😊😲👊🏿💥🤕

[@RobotMasters]

Yes that person is very very sad no lunch today!!!

[@lakem0nst3r58]

The shark ion has a bagless empty system you should but it

[@RobotMasters]

Fixing Master I order it

[@Emmanuel-ti6ym]

Brilliant!

[@ElsaAndAnnie]

Great idea! Thanks a lot for posting. I can save $8/- per bag every 15 days.

[@bhaveshpatel4547]

Can you do something similar for Deebot self-emptying bin now since its out?

[@RobotMasters]

You have to find a material that breathable, the container didn't allow much airflow so the vacuum was weakened.

[@bernardfriedman532]

Lol the firecracker intro

[@chepito06]

Love your flipflops Nathan, yup my aim is about the same as yours 🤣

[@RobotMasters]

Hahaha I could of taken a million takes to make it in the trash 🤔😏

[@chepito06]

@@RobotMasters it was awesome something different 🙃

[@RobotMasters]

Thanks

[@RwikSengupta]

You just blocked airflow path out of the dirt receptacle. You are effectively blowing dirt back through the system into the vacuum. SMH!

[@MrBlueCreeper]

Did you know you can make the robot self-empty without the app. All you need to do is to tap on the home button on the robot when it’s docked and it will self-empty!

[@MrBlueCreeper]

Now that you know this, try to put the i7’s bin on the e5, set the e5 on i7’s dock, and push the home button to see what it does.

[@RobotMasters]

The e5 doesn’t recognize the robot is on the self emptying system. It will charge the robot but the robot won’t go to the docking station

[@MrBlueCreeper]

@@RobotMasters ok. Did you push the home button? Did it self-empty?

[@MrBlueCreeper]

I don’t think so, right?

[@RobotMasters]

@@MrBlueCreeper I don't have the Roomba to try this, I think Adam still has his Roomba

[@thomasallen1119]

Instead of using tape you could of hot glued it for a air tight seal

[@RobotMasters]

Thanks for the tip, it my first time doing something like this 😏

[@gailgohrick5836]

FYI that is not Tupperware. It is a plastic container, perhaps GladWare. As in all tissues are not Kleenex... other than that A for effort.

[@MHYH15]

Sorry to say you need to learn how vacuum works😂😂😂

[@RobotMasters]

HAHAHA 😆

[@jonathanherbig8318]

Great idea until you see his next video...

[@RobotMasters]

LOL 😆

[@ericcaldwell3584]

1:46 I think your camera had a seizure

[@RobotMasters]

LOL 😆 Probably

[@kippertheman]

Wow

[@RobotMasters]

Thanks, I am still improving on it, will have the version 2.0 tomorrow 😁

[@ndharelmd]

who would thought the i7 in depthuw?

[@djdubsy]

It’s clearly not very bright idea because unless you cut a hole in the Tupperware and fill with some sort of filter material that will allow air to pass freely then the motor is going to burn out in no time at all

[@angeryitalianchef7251]

Me: sees nathen back up holding bag Also me: sees open trash can Me in head: he talking as bout why they are good but also bad and he is gonna throw that in there like a basketball isn’t he? Edit: yup and no.

[@RobotMasters]

Yep didn’t want to make it in the Trash 😂

[@Jason3249...]

Wtaf the bag's are meant to breathe air is meant to pass through it 😂😂😂 just put a sticky zip on the bag ffs not difficult is it 👌🏻 🇬🇧

[@mifthasadik8703]

I wish you could hook it up to a garbage disposal

[@RobotMasters]

That might be a good idea 😏😏😏

[@MooTaters]

I wouldn't hold my breath on irobot doing something better when they have a product that needs constant replacement for another revenue stream that they can overcharge for. Now another company maybe, but even then they'd be better off making their own bag or buying the same bag from whoever is actually producing it for irobot and sell it cheaper.

[@ybzz9]

1:14 DUDE ROBOTS CAN FEEL PAIN!!

[@Slick1020]

Great Scott Marty! Brilliant. iRobot Roomba Lawyers: We need you to remove this video so we can duplicate this product and sell it at a premium to customers.

[@RobotMasters]

LOL I pretty sure they already have a bagless system for their Roomba s10

[@antesmolcic4354]

Forgat the bag. Let it all go into the bin and than pour it out the windoew.

[@angeryitalianchef7251]

HEY YALL MADE MY IDEA :3 oh u :3 *said In cute let me explain studios voice* Wait u need to add a hole so there’s a way for air to get into the bin part

[@RobotMasters]

LoL 😂 Huhhh there a hole I think 🤔🤔🤔, ohhhh forgot one let me get my Drill

[@angeryitalianchef7251]

Wait wut it worked? I didn’t doubt you could but I thought the bin was more like a normal vacuum there’s a motor that goes into a chamber with a bag the bag sits in the chamber connected to another tube which then the MOTOR* turns on sucking out the air in the chamber meaning the little holes in the bag sucks on the second tube making the vacuuming So if the contain doesn’t have holes then HIW IN THE HOLY MOTHER OF F### DID IT WORK, ?!?!?!?!??

[@RobotMasters]

@@angeryitalianchef7251 Yes it worked because I put a little crack in the lid to allow air to pass through, I am working on a cutting out the bottom and use a breathable mesh. Thanks for letting us Know, should of talked more about how the Vacuum system worked

[@angeryitalianchef7251]

Oof ok just curious lol

[@RobotMasters]

Glad you ask the question allowed me to rethink my design and make it better, allow more air flow 😁

[@tomsacchetti7703]

Stupidest idea. Where’s the dust filter. It’s all going into CAC motor. Not a good idea. You need an exit filter in the other side.