Live Stereo Guitar Mixing Tips (Wet/Dry/Wet or Dry/Wet/Dry?)

I've been wanting to do this video for a long time to highlight a stereo mixing technique called Dry/Wet/Dry (D/W/D). You've probably heard of Wet/Dry/Wet (W/D/W), it always seems to be the go to routing when guitar players want a stereo spread and are already using a Wet/Dry mix, but in this video I look at another option you may not be familiar with that uses the "Haas Stereo Effect" to make the Dry signal become the stereo sound instead of the Wet signal.
Gear:
TC Electronic MIMIQ
Wounded Paw Blender
Iconoclast Cab Sim
AMT O2
AMT B2
AMT S2
Strymon Timeline
Strymon BigSky
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:02 Wet/Dry (mono)
1:21 Wet/Dry (stereo)
1:53 Wet/Dry/Wet
2:37 Dry/Wet/Dry
3:27 Haas Stereo
4:31 Rhythm Example
5:19 Lead Example
5:55 Back to Mono

[@jmkmusicpedals]

If you like videos about guitar sound engineering, I made a playlist about just that and added this video to it. As of today, there are 6 videos in this kind of format and I have outlines for 6 more. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWTOhaGdhseEpc0

[@job00]

You just blew my mind... D/W/D makes so much more sense for better sound AND practicality compared to W/D/W. Thank you!

[@AntonovichHicksenbrau]

Great videos Joe. Thank you.

[@idanshahar]

Great vid! dry wet dry is a cool trick I should use. I also have a mimiq and it's great :)

[@jmkmusicpedals]

The MIMIQ is a great little utility pedal. Haas stereo doesn't sound best when applied to everything, IMO, but applied to only a Dry(ish) signal, it shines. I also really enjoyed using a Strymon DECO for this function too, but the DECO is too much pedal to dedicate to just this one thing, whereas with the MIMIQ, this is all it does.

[@danielmiller2886]

Clearly, I need a MIMIQ pedal! That is awesome.

[@Just-artist]

Dry-wet-dry blows my mind! Thanks so much! Question: I have a Kemper and would like to use a Mimic to do Dry-Wet-Dry. I know there is a Stereo FX loop in the Kemper. Do you have experience with this?

[@jmkmusicpedals]

I don't have experience with that unit, but if you can send out of the FX Loop in mono to the MIMIQ, and then back to the Kemper FX Loop in Stereo, that may work. It would probably be best if most of the effects that you from Kemper are mono since they will receive some stereo spread created by the MIMIQ, which may make existing stereo effects sound a little funky, but you can try wither way and see how you like it.

[@Just-artist]

@@jmkmusicpedals Thanks man!

[@vicenteb531]

I have a Mimiq Doubler and I love it for bedroom use along with a mixer and headphones, panning L and R, it gives a true immersive playing experience and I absolutely love it. But I have always wanted to use it on a band situation with 2 guitarists. I totally see a use of it for the rythm guitar for example during choruses (widening the sound on them), but for the lead guitar I am not so sure on its practical use if there is already a rythm guitar playing along. What are your thoughts? Cheers

[@jmkmusicpedals]

Over all in a band situation with 2 guitars, I probably would have it set very slight to spread the guitar out to the other side from its normal pan location, and the same for the other guitarist. Or not use it at all. For leads, the FOH would probably bring the lead guitar into the center regardless, MIMIQ or not.

[@ggrisch]

the outputs of the mimiq go to foh one hard pan left two hard pan right? Then where plug delay and what send to foh. Can you describe all signal chain d/w/d from guitar to foh its very interesting things 👌

[@jmkmusicpedals]

Correct, the Mimiq signals are panned hard left and right. The Wet signal (the other delay and reverb effects) is separate from the Dry (Mimiq) signal just like you would do if you were creating a W/D rig. I have 2 videos just prior to this one that demonstrate parallel routing and W/D in detail. Parallel routing leads to implementing W/D, which leads to implementing W/D/W or D/W/D. Watch them in that order and I think it'll give you the entire picture.

[@ggrisch]

@@jmkmusicpedals I understand that 3 separate signals go to foh. Two with mimiq hard panned and one center with 100% wet fx dly / revb?

[@jmkmusicpedals]

@@ggrisch That's right.

[@edcavallo8964]

Hi Joe. Are we talking two or three amps with the dry wet dry rig?

[@jmkmusicpedals]

For me, it's 3 channels live, not amps, but yeah, 3 amps is the principle just like W/D/W

[@Gigirizzolihhhhyyy]

Could i do this whit helix?

[@jmkmusicpedals]

Yes. I don't see why not. Just have to replicate the routing, the HaaS effect, and use the sends as extra outputs. I get really close to this with the Stomp (I use a Stomp when I need a tighter rig). There's a bit less ability for quick adjustments for me on stage during sound check, but from the FOH perspective it's the same.

[@efosefpsefjpos]

hi. which one would you recommend for live gigs?

[@jmkmusicpedals]

I use D/W/D in a trio and am very happy with it, but I'd use any depending on the overall sound of the band, monitoring system, FOH capabilities, etc.

[@efosefpsefjpos]

@@jmkmusicpedals I have a Boss gt 100, and it has a spread function that gives the Haas stereo effect, but I play in a band with keyboards and 3 vocalists. Would my guitar be buried in the mix?