Rocket III (2.3) VS. Honda Valkyrie (6 Cylinder)

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[@joelthemole3020]

The fact that a 15+ year old full bagger set to tour across the country with a extra large windscreen, speakers and a fricking cup holder was even considered close to the performance of a stripped down newish muscle cruiser with 35% more displacement should tell you exactly how amazing the Valkyrie was, and still is.

[@jimburns4852]

That Valkyrie sounds like a WWII fighter plane with an Allison engine, What a beast!

[@boreed5734]

Valkarie GL 1500 is not the fastest in this current day it hasn't been made since 2003. Motorcycle makers have had plenty of time to make bikes as fast or faster...R3, M109, Kawasaki 2000, Stratoliner 1900. Valkarie offers speed, comfort, reliability and confidence of knowing u are driving a bad ass machine no matter what bike comes out.

[@bgnorthport]

I have both, a Rocket III and a Valkyrie

[@boreed5734]

@@bgnorthport cool.

[@LFLFG]

@@bgnorthport I own the Rocket 2300 2015 and I’m thinking in getting an 1998 Valkyrie too. Are them to differents in performance? Which one gives you more driving pleasure? What about cornering and stability between them? And stopping power?

[@bgnorthport]

@@LFLFG The Valkyrie is a great all around bike. The Rocket beats it hands down in torque and horsepower, I like the handling of the Valkyrie better. I also prefer the Valkyrie for long rides, its a more comfort bike for me, plus the reliability has been unbelievable over the years. My Rocket is supercharged and has a Carpenter Racing exhaust on it, which gets extremely hot, so I only ride it locally.

[@conanlive3784]

@@LFLFG I rode a '99 Valkyrie for 10 years, then got a 2011 Rocket, now I have the 2020 Rocket. ALL good bikes! The Valkyrie was butter smooth and handled well for a big bike, but when you twist that throttle on a Rocket you get an instant grin! And the new 2020 handles quite a bit better than the previous versions, so you get the best of both worlds.

[@blankpuddle0249]

When you leave your blinker on for two minutes straight and your buddy doesn't let you know... oof

[@dixienormous3262]

I thought the same thing. They both have ADHD?

[@spacecoastz4026]

He just turned it on way early to make that final right-hand turn into the shop.

[@gbryant65]

I bought a 2000 Valk new in 01. It did the quarter mile at National Trails Raceway in 10.34 sec. My best time. It was a red/black standard with K&N filter, I had drilled out the last set of baffles on the stock pipes, & I had a car tire on the back at that point because I loved pulling wheelies on it. I miss that bike. I'm gonna get a 14 model probably because I don't ever want to deal with 6 carbs- more interested in the fuel injected 1800 version now. I actually only wanted to mention that it has a great power band at higher rpm so the low rpm "race" wasn't fair. Loved hearing that engine again!

[@markmath2883]

I am original owner of a ‘97 Valk with 102,000 miles. Re. Brakes: Valk was rated #1 in shortest distance for several years and remained in top 10 for many years. It was first production bike with over 100hp to have more torque than hp (103). Never a problem with carbs. Little known fact about the Valk and the primary reason I bought it is it’s ability to corner (for a cruiser). The engine is the other main advantage: it’s turbine like power can be as docile as a kitten or an absolute beast.

[@bgnorthport]

I own both, a 1997 Valkyrie and a Rocket III. You're right about the cornering on the Valkyrie but when it comes to power the Valkyrie is tame compared to the Rocket.

[@markmath2883]

Brett Gambuzza: yeah, I remember when the Rocket 3 came out with an engine larger than my SAAB 900 and almost the size of my BMW 525I. Amazing! The Valk was my only bike for 20 years. I added a Triumph T100, ‘94 BMW RS and a ‘09 BMW RT. Though I am at the age (67) where smaller and lighter is appreciated, I still love riding the Valk.

[@Johnwillbegone]

How did a couple of 13 year olds get motorcycle licenses?

[@nowthisis2stupid]

I'm sure that's a compliment to them.

[@nealbeach4947]

13 year olds ride sport bikes.

[@paulskaminsky4220]

i hear that

[@ababbit7461]

You can see the "head shaking" in that Rocket III... Bad front tire? Bad front shock on one side? Bent rim? Low tire pressure? Bad neck bearing? It has a problem that needs to be fixed. I would not ride it like that.... Winner in my opinion? I owned a Valkyrie and rode a Rocket III - VALKYRIE. Sounds better too. Sean, shut that turn signal off!!! Great video BTW and Lyndsey will kick your butts if you mess with her - she is now a biker babe.

[@BikesandBeards]

+A Babbit yeah we took it to the shop the next day. Probably bad neck bearings but I ll let you know

[@MarkMeadows90]

Dom (Vin Diesel) said "I live my life a quarter mile at a time. Nothing else matters: not the mortgage, not the store, not my team and all their bull****. For those ten seconds or less, I'm free." But I love that quote. Sounds sooo true.

[@davidboda1640]

I live my life a quarter pounder at a time

[@myronczebiniak5415]

I guess I'm not the only one that forgets to turn off my blinkers haha

[@toddivester3038]

I always seem to forget really wish it would shut off after 15 blink's

[@luisloya1120]

Too much fun

[@9999plato]

I recently saw a video wher a "carpenter mod(s)" could be done to the Rocket 3 and deliver around 240 HP or more depending how far you go. The bike is extremely restricted from the factory. So much potential in that motor.

[@godackgudalach1]

The best carpenter mod is up to 265hp now. All motor lol absolutely insane!

[@ultrahighgain412]

Let’s see the Rocket III vs the VMAX.

[@craigmanning2439]

F6 Valkyrie for the win. Actually never rode the Rocket III, looks like a nice bike but, well, I am poor and I can not afford to upgrade. The classic Valk, needs a 6th gear and fuel injection. Other then that, excellent bike.

[@vansongs]

I just seen Sean riding a Rocket 3. Signal was on.

[@jeffveraart2695]

I guess this was before M1 moto gloves.

[@jaymorris3468]

The new Rocket 3 even more lethal, in a good way.

[@jhezy2000]

140hp vs 100hp what do you think was gonna happen?

[@laravernon8691]

Ughh.. this commentary is painful to listen to.

[@samuelrobinson7893]

Great video guy's! And great content! Stay safe out there

[@FishPig1736]

Just caught this video...loved it. You guys were having so much fun there on 2 great bikes. I'm a subscriber so get your videos but this is an older one that I've not seen. Well done guys you put a smile on my face.

[@caryd67]

Nobody: Me: y’all wanna hear my Valkyrie story? Cool! So I bought a’96 F6c with 13000 original miles for $3200. Original asking price was $8700. It was totally covered with every possible trinket available from Kuryakin, and sported the ugliest paint job featured monsters, naked women, and even a Viking. It also had 6 pipes with no baffling. I watched the price drop week after week, and made my move. Brought it home (30 km trip) and never rode it again. Stripped the bike completely down and bobbed it. That was 5 years ago, still have the bike. I’ll finish it eventually. It only needs tires, battery, throttle tube and grips, and lights.

[@ducati135]

Did you ever finish the Valkyrie build?

[@caryd67]

@@ducati135 embarrassed to say that I haven’t. I still own it, it’s in storage but my Goldwing project took over. I will finish the Valk eventually when the time is right

[@robertslate4892]

I love the Valkyrie!

[@HuskarThaTroll]

Came a long way from this brother. Stay strong

[@ore83]

These comments are brutal lol I was cracking up at your commentary. 3 1/2 years later and I'm just now finding you guys.

[@mallorylangford7699]

My '98 Valk Interstate is great. I also want a Rocket III.

[@bgnorthport]

I own both, they're both great bikes, the Valkyrie has bulletproof reliability and great handling and my Rocket is a performance beast. It's currently in the shop have a TTS Stage 2 Supercharger installed.

[@ragecage2011]

bevis and butt head meet. back street boys

[@BikesandBeards]

you mean it? bc that backstreet boy comment was really nice, i really appreciate that. I think your great also

[@carl-ok9gn]

@@BikesandBeards *you're. not that it matters, when you dump it you wont be able to type cause you refuse to wear gloves..

[@03flhtcui]

Both are great bikes, but I prefer the Valkyrie over the Rocket III. But given that Honda killed their bike and Triumph still makes the Rocket III, I suppose of this were a competition the Rocket III 3 would win since the Honda has been discontinued for 14 years now.

[@BikesandBeards]

+03flhtcui Honda brought the valk back

[@papatruss]

Sorry to say but Triumph stopped making them last year, well in England they have. Do they still make them in Yankland?

[@salottin]

They brought the Valkyrie back but with a whole new style

[@KurNorock]

@@jackwoods535 what is it with guys and motorcycles? "the old valkyrie was prettier"?? Wtf? Are you picking flowers or a motorcycle? You sound like a woman buying a 2005 beetle because it's "cute". Also, why the hell does every fucking bike on the planet have to look like a Harley before guys like you will even entertain the idea of riding it? Aren't you tired of the same old shit? Every God damn bike out there looks like it was made in 1960. They all look the same. Ever get questions from non-motorcycle guys about your bike? What's the first thing they always ask? "is that a Harley?" because they can't fucking tell. Fuck man, I can't even tell half the time. At least honda has the balls to try something different in 2014. Gotta respect them for that. And if I was the kind of guy who bought things based on looks, I would have bought that 2014 valkyrie instead of the old one because the new one looks fucking awesome instead of like just another Harley clone. But I'm not that kind of guy, so I bought the new valkyrie based on important shit, like comfort, longevity, performance, ease of maintenance, etc. And let me tell you, it's a God damn amazing bike to ride.

[@ultrahighgain412]

Unfortunately the new Valkyrie is ugly. That 98 is a beauty.

[@randyrowe3097]

The new Valk and any big cruiser would be a good video.

[@mrRhwalden]

You have to admit, those two bikes together sound awesome....

[@skaybaltimore]

More Lindsey, less Sean and Caleb. (Just sayin...) :D

[@abrahamcale3659]

Also who is she

[@forkboy3309]

Abraham Thompson lindsey

[@michaelschreffler9424]

What kind of radio system are you all using? Love the Honda, once had a 1978 Golding, LOVED IT!

[@jeffdughman9741]

the BMW r1200c is my go to bike :) it allways gets looks

[@omegaman4153]

A head to head test drive on such big bikes and you drove over the interstate instead of going onto the interstate, where both of you could have you own lane, and really double down.

[@volkardlokisson6292]

My Valkyrie has insane acceleration, but the key is to keep the RPMs above 4-5k when accelerating. I've gone 0-60 in 3.5s with full touring bags and my ol' lady on the back. Back when I had her bobtailed she was a little frightening how fast she was.

[@jetstream454]

I think the F6 cut out from flooding haha, good old carbies 😂

[@edwardmills8020]

I wonder if that Valkyrie had its carbs rejetted for the Cobra pipes. If not, (likely) the Rocket 3 would still have run away, but not quite so easily had the Valkyrie retained its stock pipes.

[@68weebee]

This is so good both of you together riding and showing two bikes. You guys are to cool!

[@briggsfartblender788]

Bathtubbery. What a word! Gonna use that as often as I can.

[@michaelgarth7077]

Check the head stock bearing. Cheers.

[@dnewman3402]

I rode a Valkyrie that had high compression pistons, tuned carbs, ported heads, and Vance and Hines two into one mufflers on each side of the bike, and this bike sounded awesome when ever you wound out the first four gears hard from a stop, but at steady cruising speeds the exhaust sounded bland.

[@jeredfowler7194]

No you didn’t

[@keithmcintyre3447]

I had an 03 Valk...they have 6 clyinders, what did you do with the extra 2 exhaust?????? @jeredfowler7194

[@caseyworthington7092]

Love my Valk! Fun video.

[@globalteamwork4light]

you can always make a bigger bike. try comparing the rocket to a bosshoss with 350hk and 550Nm at 3500rpms... its is the way it delivers and the sound of the engine, that matters to me. of course it has to be big and strong enough to chill me. the rocket doesnt appeal to me, the bosshoss neither - but the valkyrie is soo smooth. i have been thinking of that motor for the last 10 years now, wanting a stripped 1000gl. then i discovers the valkyrie! the best bike ever...

[@davidgreve1081]

You guys are a lot of fun and commeradery! Riding any motorcycle is so much fun, but you guys take it to the next level! Either of those bikes are monsters. They both sound tremendous when you get on it. When they come on scene, Everyone has your attention! Ride Safely, rubber side down! Great inventory of some mighty cool bikes too. I'm from Arizona. It would be so , so cool if your shop was located in Phoenix, Arizona (maybe a sister duplication of what you have there?)

[@BikesandBeards]

+David Greve we ship bikes all over the country

[@davidgreve1081]

Your on the east side of town, I'm only 400 miles from Los Angeles., California. Lets put something together.

[@richardsanders3567]

What's that chrome thingy a cup holder? For crying out loud 🙄

[@brnspd]

Richard Sanders cup holders are awesome, they are great when your putting in the miles. I even have one on my bonneville.

[@mikestowe6136]

i always think sean always gives caleb the slower bike in every video

[@TDVerm]

That was plain awful!... it's all cool amongst ur friends ( humor) and goofing around... but lame to the rest of us...

[@davediamond1742]

i have ridden both of these motorcycles , they both are great bikes , they both have some issues , the Valkyrie is well engineered , and the triumph is torque monster , but has timing chain issues , they both handle well for big beasts .. I would be more interested in the rocket three touring but would take the Valkyrie over the rocket three roadster .. but believe the rocket three would smoke the Valkyrie of the line , but top speed would be the Valkyrie ..

[@noremorse4379]

No way. Triumph wins everywhere

[@rapidsniper2008]

The claimed torque on this thing is 221 Nm. Its a power house.

[@DrBroncanuus]

please, please, please everyone wear gloves whilst riding.....these two men are setting a very poor example

[@DrakoDragoonz]

Would that be weird naked men on a motorcycle only wearing gloves!! I personaly like to wear motor jeans a jacket gloves and boots and a helmet much saver than only gloves 🤣

[@denisduquesnay3280]

Is this their first video?

[@Zakk-n6w]

Both nice bikes but NOTHING takes a VMAX!!! Love your Vmax videos!

[@rufus1346]

from a rocket owner that just loves the valkyrie

[@mvmallinson]

I can’t believe you are riding this or any bike without the appropriate protection. This is not a good example to set.

[@KurNorock]

Comparing a 20+ year old bike to a modern bike... At least get the 2014 Valkyrie...

[@DrakoDragoonz]

Why? My 1992 st1100 still wins it from a lot of modern bikes in a matter of stuff, handling, feeling, acceleration, wind protection. A real bike never grows old thats why you can compare old bike to newer ones.

[@KurNorock]

@@DrakoDragoonz because the newer valkyrie is better.

[@DrakoDragoonz]

@@KurNorock that could be a matter of perspective or style

[@KurNorock]

@@DrakoDragoonz no. It's a matter of objective fact.

[@DrakoDragoonz]

@@KurNorock well the production year for the rocket 3 2300cc is from 2005 and the last production year for the classic f6c is 2005 so maby your thinking about the wrong rocked 3 with the 2500cc engine. Those to bikes are both a world appart the f6c is a cruiser and the rocked 3 is more like a musscle bike with a chopper position so comparing the two is divicult but possible. And if u know this already why compair a 2005 triumph with a 2014 valkyrie same logic applys there in your view i quess

[@timothywilson1493]

Much better when MUTED!

[@markjaycox8811]

Paul Walker is not dead. He is THE MAZE RUNNER.

[@TheAtherion]

So .. what was the culprit behind the wobble ?

[@southpawsgarage]

1500 VS 2300.....MM..MM...ID STILL TAKE VALK ANYDAY....

[@captainaverage721]

Obviously never ridden a Rocket 3 !

[@vinjofin1972]

I never rode a rocket in my life either. But I like the looks of the Valk more then of the Triumph.

[@stoneageidaho]

I'm having a hard time telling who's on which bike

[@SpaceTech54]

No gloves? Love the ventilator jeans...

[@SpaceTech54]

Blink...Blink...Blink... Why.Turning Right?

[@jackrune1]

i have the valk for6 years and i tried the rocket much power thats it and my choice stop on the valkyrie rune

[@ar3fali]

two big dudes riding two of the largest bikes in the market discussing kesha songs....

[@StonedOli]

For the first time we have a turn signal. :D

[@ttjbiggunner2025]

Your driving like a lady with you right blinker on the entire ride lol

[@N617A]

Caleb and I were born the same year! Yo Sean did you get the wobble figured out?

[@jimwortham8634]

KZbin God's doubly do not quit your day jobs to make MC videos

[@Roger21989]

Do you guys ever cancel your turn signals?

[@luc1ferblack]

I want a valk with cobra exhaust but the lack of fuel gauge puts me off. Rocket 3 looks fun but for touring i think my st1300 does it better

[@adamlanglois563]

I've got the interstate model. It's got the big faring/radio and fuel gauge. Sweet bike. Harley ripped off the faring design when they put out the "shark nose" bikes

[@maxmeeks9910]

I picked up an st1300 from a coworker. After opening up the exhaust, it runs Soooooooo much better. I'm now a fan with retro headlight, shorty mufflers, and mostly naked. When it's done. I will post pics somewhere. Almost nothing online of st1300 strip down mods. It's way better.

[@ChrisHardwickanimaladventures]

I'm here for the comments, as a fellow KZbinr I like to see others get ROASTED!! 😜

[@edikaramuratful]

You just cannot beat honda on quality. Design is a topic

[@k9m42]

Sure you can...

[@edikaramuratful]

@@k9m42 yeah right

[@ChaohsiangChen]

How do I get a motorcycle after marriage?

[@Rick-ve5lx]

ChaohsiangChen You give some money to a guy who wants to sell one.

[@hdrk59]

Divorce dude

[@sparkme123]

My first wife hated motorcycles, my second wife loves bikes and rides her own. See...problem fixed!!

[@robertstimmel1100]

ChaohsiangChen. from the guys at srk cycles

[@cesarflores8450]

ChaohsiangChen very sneakyish....

[@jimwortham8634]

Clio 14 or 15 Honda Valkyrie may be interested?

[@timothywilson1493]

Nice bikes, stupid talk!

[@donnygoossens3709]

I have a 2012 rocket three and I wouldn’t trade it for any other bike

[@sakisgiakis2540]

Honda valkerry is best, from Rocket lll. My dream is too have Honda valkerie f6(1997) Is posible too Greece? And a prise. Guys!! Thanks.. Sakis.. ❤️👍🇬🇷

[@dasutr]

turn your signal off

[@dixienormous3262]

Man I miss Lindsay.

[@rickpwalton3173]

I would put my 99 Valkyrie against that rocket 3 and hope I could find him in my mirrors Cobra drag pipes and Dyna jet jets dyno tuned I believe this would be a different story

[@triffidgrower]

So, motorcycle retailer finds front end wobble in big bike, and wonders if the tyre pressures are to blame. Furthermore, if I follow your adolescent babble correctly, you've had a 'kid' test ride said bike, and he wants to ride it again with his partner. For starters, you should never be in doubt about tyre pressures, it's beginner level maintenance. If you did check, you'd be pulling over to find the possible cause of low tyre pressure. If you're letting the bike out for test rides with uncertain tyre pressures, you have now disclosed it to the world, and exposed yourself to certain litigation should a customer come to grief. I have remarked on your choice of riding gear elsewhere in this thread. If things ever bite you because of inappropriate gear, or lax maintenance, it won't be Jesus that saves you, it will be sheer dumb luck.

[@adirtybottleofmilk5551]

Bruh turn it down a knotch 😂

[@ciprianstoichici9536]

The triumph seems more maneuverable

[@joshuabennett723]

Can't speak for the rocket 3 never rode one but the Valkyrie throws down in the corners really impressive for a cruiser that came out 25 years ago

[@dirty_r12015]

Just taking turns leaving the turn signals on🤣

[@SickBikeDude]

As I’m watching I’m like “looks like PA” turns out I’m 1 hour and 51 minutes from ya. (Riverside PA)

[@Straydogger]

Hey! Let's ride with our turn signal blinking and talk and not pay attention to the road and not review the bikes.

[@testpiloterb1828]

Damn Lindsay is a cutie! What happen to her? Should have kept her around..

[@waynedurden9692]

I'll take the honda any day over the rocket

[@jetstream454]

I have heard that the Rockets slightly represent a pig haha. Opposite for the Valkyrie, of which I hear mostly "balanced and smooth".

[@rodrickdubose659]

Cool the way you guys did this video

[@moorshound3243]

why do you guys sound like two 13 year old's who have stolen their farther's bikes?

[@vinjofin1972]

Honda Valkyrie all day long. Not that I dont like the Triumph but I like the Honda more.

[@lexx9443]

How many times did they forget to turn their blinkers off? damn

[@reverieofmusic436]

The Valkyrie is my favourite bike ever built. Nothing will ever come close to it, from my perspective. My dad has had two Valkyries and one Valkyrie Interstate, and there is nothing like them.

[@Bass.Player]

those cobra pipes kill the roll on power

[@smwrbd]

?

[@jetstream454]

Doesn't re-jetting help with that?

[@Bass.Player]

@@jetstream454 No, it has to do with cylinder filling and volumetric efficiency. They probably increase the power at high RPM but when cylinder pressures are high it hurts, so drive-ability suffers...

[@edcook6438]

Suzuki made of 1400 V4 cavalcade we did all that with my Valkyrie in the cavalcade that pulled away pissed me off cuz I love my Valkyrie

[@user-ex2yt1pl6u]

Guy sounds like Jimmy from GTA V.

[@StanWilhite]

What kind of radio setup are ya'll using?

[@zenbikesjohn]

Keep it up fellas , this is funny !

[@majorwanapoop2455]

twenty year old Honda against a new Rocket... izzat fair...?

[@BikesandBeards]

+Major WanaPoop that's a good point. I'm not sure if the rocket could keep up with the new Valkyrie

[@Yogi1026]

ummm the real question is could the new valkyrie keep up with the Rocket. Theres no replacement for displacement.

[@coreyschmidt1647]

Exactly, and 100 rwhp and 106 Ft-lb's torque as advertised(valkyrie) don't touch the 118 rwhp and 162 Ft-lb's torque that my 8 year old rocket put down at the dyno yesterday. The Valkyrie is a beautifully smooth running bike, but it doesn't produce the brutal torque numbers the rocket does.

[@randomstuffwithjoe]

Wait till the new Rocket comes out in 2019. It just got announced. They're advertising 180BHP. Crazy! @@coreyschmidt1647

[@KurNorock]

@@coreyschmidt1647 pretty sure that valkyrie will still be running when the rocket is in the junk yard though.

[@ragecage2011]

flooring??? isn't in the wrist??

[@BikesandBeards]

lol thats a great point. TWIST IT!!!!!!

[@rodrickdubose659]

They were just being funny when they said that.

[@jamesbarrick3403]

You guys act and talk like you are in 7th grade when you do a video together

[@DrakoDragoonz]

BMW guy?... germans dond do fun!

[@markjaycox8811]

Paul Walker is in the new Maze Runner anybody in 4 digitland awake yet?

[@woodstockpaul6066]

Ok, comparing the performance of a 1500cc older bike with a 2500cc newer bike. I wonder which one is going to win. After watching this video, I would go with an 1800 cc. Goldwing.

[@boreed5734]

The 1800cc Goldwing is not faster than the Valkyrie 1500cc look it up. It may be more comfortable if that's your point. The Valkyrie has a few more HP.