Rockford Fosgate: Power, Punch, Prime Overview (1.1)

[@rockymtnredneck4888]

I expected you to actually pull out the different speakers and show them side by side and point out similarities and differences.

[@rockfordfosgate]

Stay tuned, we have a couple more videos to go with this introduction, and a year's worth of videos in total to release.

[@AngryInch69]

@@rockfordfosgate7 years later. Where’s the side by side comparison?

[@fillupread]

Title is misleading. I was expecting an explanation of the 3 different models.

[@rockfordfosgate]

We have individual videos that explain the three different series of Prime, Punch, and Power. This video is an overview of the different series.

[@ethanm2601]

Just wasted 5 minutes of my life. Figured you would talk about the actual speakers themselves.

[@rockfordfosgate]

This is the starting of an entire series of trainings. The videos are broken down into Amplifiers (Prime, Punch, Power), Speakers (Prime, Punch, Power), and Subwoofers (Prime, Punch, Power.) You can skip videos by using our Product Knowledge Playlist here: kzbin.info/aero/PL-ob-nWq0t1gB99tZsQlk6SVnklDM8lvJ

[@LocalAutist]

Looking to finally retire the now 30 year old speakers in my Volvo 745 wagon but I want to keep costs under control but also have great sound quality while keeping the car in a way so it looks as stock as possible (except for a subwoofer in the back). I have 5.25" speakers in my doors and space for tweeters in the dash but no space for tweeters in the back doors without modification. I was thinking R152-S component for the front, R1525X2 for the back doors both being from the prime lineup, however I want a subwoofer that can play deep bass down to around 30Hz or lower, which would you recommend, and should I change which speakers I'm buying? I want something that can dunk hard for bass heavy music but also various metal genres.

[@stevepanf9469]

Exactly the same thing I am doing with my 940 sedan, except with r169 on the back deck

[@rockfordfosgate]

Hi Felix, sorry for the late reply. Yes, the R152-S component system and R1525X2 are great solutions for your Volvo's doors. According to Crutchfield, they look like they will fit fine. For a subwoofer to play 30 Hz or lower, keep in mind it's more about moving air (vibrating things) than hearing the actual bass notes. A good candidate is a pair of Punch P1 12" subwoofers. With an Fs = 25 Hz, this model works well in both sealed and vented enclosures. For a lower frequency response, you'll need an enclosure on the larger size compared to what is listed in the owner's manual (1.02 cu. ft.). You can always contact our Rockford Fosgate technical support for help with your box design at 1-800-669-9899 or via Live Chat at www.rockfordfosgate.com/support.

[@nightmaremunoz8384]

So deos Punch sound better than the power or is the power better in both sq and spl than the punch?

[@rockfordfosgate]

Overall, there are incremental step-ups between the Prime (Good), Punch (Better), and Power (Best) technology, which can result in better SQ. Regarding subwoofers and speakers, it can result in higher SPL due to the increased power that can be applied.

[@rhysaguirre6967]

​@@rockfordfosgate I need a nid range speaker for my sound system. There's a 3 inch punch mid range but there isn't one for the power series. I bought a 4x6 but it turns out it's a full range speaker and I'm wondering if any 3 inch power speakers are coming out any time soon, aswell as a slim 8 inch power sub.

[@rockfordfosgate]

@@rhysaguirre6967 Our P132 is a full-range speaker as well as the P1462. If you're using this for a center channel speaker, it will work great! I actually used a pair of these hidden in my truck's air vents to create a phantom center channel. At this time, we don't have any "Slim" 8" subwoofers in the line-up, but we do offer an 8" amplified subwoofer that has a compact H11.4" x W17.6" x D5.6" size. You can find more info here: rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/p300-8p/

[@MrMeechie77]

My question is which is better quality the prime or punch ? I've owned a punch and loved it

[@MrMeechie77]

Amplifier

[@rockfordfosgate]

@@MrMeechie77, The series goes ... Prime (good), Punch (better), Power (best).

[@MrMeechie77]

@@rockfordfosgate thanks I'm making that move I have a grand Marquis putting 2 12" fosgate now I have to figure out which ones I've had the type r is there more powerful ones than that?

[@rockfordfosgate]

@@MrMeechie77 If you're looking at any of the Power Series subwoofers, the 13" and 16" models are insane.

[@MrMeechie77]

@@rockfordfosgate I'm on your website now

[@Julian_E07]

I'm trying to look for some subwoofers but I'm not sure what kind of speakers would go along with my vlp 1500 amplifier any suggestions?

[@rockfordfosgate]

Are you referring to the American Audio VLP-1500 Guitar Amplifier? If so, since it's rated to produce 750W RMS Per Channel @ 4 Ohms at 1kHz, 0.1% THD, we would recommend these subwoofer systems: (1) T1D212 (800W) per channel wire voice coils in series www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/t1d212/ (1) T1D215 (1000W) per channel wire voice coils in series www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/t1d215/ (2) P2D4-12 (400W x 2 = 800W) per channel wire voice coils in series/parallel www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/p2d4-12/ (2) P2D4-15 (400W x 2 = 800W) per channel wire voice coils in series/parallel www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/p2d4-15/

[@Julian_E07]

Wow thank you for responding so fast and I'll take them under consideration

[@rockfordfosgate]

@@Julian_E07 Great! Yeah, there are several options, I just narrowed it down to what seemed the most feasible. Good luck with your system!

[@cristianoronaldog.o.a.t4590]

Hey guys, I am a newbie to these things and I have a T1500-1bdcp, is it ok for me to run it at 8 ohms?

[@elsey1976]

WhatIsSeenCannotBeUnseen yup! hey wanna sell it? I'll give ya $200

[@cristianoronaldog.o.a.t4590]

Someone gave it to me because they bought T2500-1bdcp so nah but thanks for tip

[@rockfordfosgate]

Yes, you can run a higher impedance to an amplifier without affecting it.

[@shepherdoffire9263]

Hello im trying to get the best sound quality rockford fosgate speakers for my honda accord 2019. I listen to rock, but not only heavy metal also 60’s rock like pink floyd and the doors and their music is very meticulous and intricate and i want the best speakers to hear every single little detail of the songs, any recommendations please?

[@rockfordfosgate]

If you're looking for solid highs, we would recommend the T2652-S. They rock and will definitely keep up with your style of music! T2652-S - www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/T2652-S/

[@skillzplaya2039]

What's a good amp to go with a Punch 12" P3 2ohm sub?

[@rockfordfosgate]

Great questions Skillz, since the P3D2-12 is rated to handle up to 600W and can be wired to a 1-ohm load, we would suggest the Punch P500X1bd. It's rated at 500W at 1-ohm and has plenty of headroom for dynamic bass response. You can find more info here: rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/p500x1bd/

[@J0HNWICK]

Hi everybody. I need the exactly TSP for the T2 212D2. Cann someone give me this informations?

[@rockfordfosgate]

The basic T/S parameters are on the Product Details Page here: www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/T212D2/ If you need more detailed info, please contact our technical support at rftech.custhelp.com

[@J0HNWICK]

@@rockfordfosgate 2 years later.... Very poor and unfriendly! Care about your Fans and buyer!

[@rockfordfosgate]

@@J0HNWICK Sorry about that. We sincerely care about our fanatics - and if you look at any of the other comments - we are very responsive on KZbin. For some reason this popped back up in the YT console as it was hidden from our view. I know they have been doing multiple rounds of updates, so they must have fixed a filter bug that was in the system. Again I apologize for the delay. We also have direct Email and Live Chat with our tech support at www.rockfordfosgate.com/support , as well as toll-free access for USA residents at 1-800-669-9899.

[@J0HNWICK]

@@rockfordfosgate i am from germany... Regards

[@westrew63]

What amp would go good with the T1693 speakers?

[@rockfordfosgate]

The Power T1693 are rated to handle up to 100 Watts RMS, so any amplifier that produces up to this much power at 4-ohms will work fine. Some great examples are: Punch P400X4 50 Watts x 4 @ 4-Ohm www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/p400x4/ Punch P600X4 75 Watts x 4 @ 4-Ohm www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/p600x4/ Punch P1000X5 75 Watts x 4 + 500 Watts @ 1-Ohm www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/p1000x5/ Power T400-4 60 Watts x 4 @ 4-Ohm www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/t400-4/ Power T600-4 100 Watts x 4 @ 4-Ohm www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/t600-4/ Power T400X4ad 100 Watts x 4 @ 4-Ohm www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/t400x4ad/

[@jondonnelly3]

Good, better best. Saved you 5 minutes. Type of music does not matter Good, better best applies. SQ Good, better best applies. Volume Good, better best applies. Build quality Good, better best.

[@rockfordfosgate]

Accurate summary of the video! Thanks Jon!

[@nuyabiss]

Love it .... Finally legit info from the source.

[@rockfordfosgate]

Awesome! Thanks for your feedback!

[@DJalfabian]

En español nada no ????

[@rockfordfosgate]

Lo siento, no tenemos traducciones para estos videos más antiguos.

[@mikealthompson1128]

I will be respectful the people that sell you guys products maybe don’t no how to install them properly i have spent money so many times at a huge location that only deals in Rockford Fosgate I went one time to get my door speakers switched because the guy said it was blew they installed the new ones an said I have good news an bad news the left door is still not playing so I just had to pay that lose an then 2 amplifiers that have went out an again I have never installed my own always paid top dollar expecting to have top quality (Just saying 33yrs old few cars later) iv been doing Fosgate so long that it’s always something an now I have friends that still have P2’s riding around maybe 🤔 might be my luck I don’t no video was sounds better then few of my systems tho

[@rockfordfosgate]

HI Mikeal, Sounds like you're having problems with gear "going out" on you. While speakers actually can blow due to excessive power (burning the voice coils), amplifiers don't typically go out like that. If you're continually having issues with the dealer, may we suggest finding a different Rockford Fosgate dealer to help you out. You probably know the ones nearby, but you can also use our dealer locator at www.rockfordfosgate.com/dealerlocator.

[@1kenpau1]

always power my subs with rockford amplifiers...

[@rockfordfosgate]

Thanks Kenny for rockin' your system with Rockford Fosgate!

[@lordclancharlie1325]

Rule n°1) When a dealer asks you what kind of music you listen to: run away !

[@rockfordfosgate]

While it may seem strange to ask what type of music a fanatic listens to, it actually helps an installer determine what components will get the job done. It's not uncommon for one customer to walk in and say they just need to replace their factory speakers, yet the next customer wants a hard-hitting system that he can play in the parking lot with the doors open for car shows. In other words, not everyone requires a T2500-1bdCP with four T2 16" subwoofers where the back seat used to be. They might just need a modest 300 watt, 4-channel amplifier powerful enough for a single 10" sub in the trunk.

[@lordclancharlie1325]

@@rockfordfosgate Yes, but it has to do with budget, not with the kind of music he listens to)

[@rockfordfosgate]

@@lordclancharlie1325 Yes, good point. I think the message got a little mixed in that section. The good news is feedback like yours helps up make better videos :-) and we appreciate that!

[@mattb9664]

I want quantity AND quality!

[@rockfordfosgate]

That's a perfect combination Matt! We would recommend the Punch / Power series product lines. Keep in mind the Punch Pro is designed for SPL, so you'll probably want to stick with standard Punch Series Component Speakers.

[@r1ppy_]

I wanted to know about your product's features, not how to run a car audio store.

[@rockfordfosgate]

Hi Ryan, as you'll see in the description, these were released with Authorized Rockford Fosgate dealers in mind, so they are slanted toward real-world customer questions about the differences between Power, Punch, and Prime models. We felt that they were of value to fanatics alike, so we decided to release them to the general public. That being said, there are just too many variables to cover the differences between the Power, Punch & Prime series in a couple of blanket statements, so they are generalized. We have detailed videos describing the models independently such as differences between Power, Punch & Prime Amplifiers, differences between Power, Punch & Prime Speakers, etc.

[@r1ppy_]

Rockford Fosgate I see. On another note, I recently purchased 4 new prime speakers and a prime amp and I love them.

[@rockfordfosgate]

@@r1ppy_ Great! Welcome to the family, and thank you for being a fanatic!

[@CHEVYK10]

It's 2023 now and why the power series doesnt have clean set up..idk Cmon fosgate do better

[@rockfordfosgate]

Thanks for your feedback Chevy K10. If you're looking for a POWER series model with CLEAN, we have these models available: • Power T400X2ad • Power T400X4ad • Power T750X1bd • Power T1000X5ad

[@martialv001]

5 mins and I didn’t get my question answered smfh

[@rockfordfosgate]

What types of questions do you have about Power -vs- Punch -vs- Prime that we can answer?

[@joncarlos716]

sounded like a broad meeting review .

[@rockfordfosgate]

It is ... this particular video is to only to provide a high-level look at the different product series that Rockford Fosgate offers. You can see the entire list of videos we've released to date at: kzbin.info/door/50h8MmoBrG4frBaWjmwpIg

[@tatialo37]

Bummer!

[@theodore720]

Speakers?????????? Wtf was this?

[@rockfordfosgate]

This is our new dealer training series for those who have never been exposed to Rockford Fosgate before. We made them available to the public 4 years ago. You can see the entire video series covering the speaker models here: kzbin.info/aero/PL-ob-nWq0t1gB99tZsQlk6SVnklDM8lvJ

[@eugeneatigua5688]

You spent the entire video talking…

[@rockfordfosgate]

Yes, these videos were initially intended for Authorized Dealers familiar with the product. We just made them available to the public because we felt the info was important.

[@Yee671]

I didnt learn anything. All he did was talk in circles. Lol.

[@rockfordfosgate]

Here's a summary: • Prime = Good • Punch = Better • Power = Best

[@marim4478]

What a waste of time. Very poor video and i still do not know the differences between prime, punch and power.

[@rockfordfosgate]

Thank you Mari for your feedback. Your comments help us continually improve our videos tutorials.

[@michaelc.6306]

This is misleading

[@rockfordfosgate]

Could you explain what is misleading about this internal training video? Authorized Rockford Fosgate dealers are there to help customers find the right product for their budget and goals. As mentioned in the video, there is Prime, Punch, Power for different budgets and goals, for the same reason the same companies that produce Scion -> Toyota -> Lexus or Honda -> Acura, or GMC -> Chevrolet -> Cadillac, and VW -> Audi. When you first started learning how to drive, dad probably didn't hand you keys to the Porsche. This is the same reason someone starting in car audio isn't likely to go straight into Power Series subwoofers and amplifiers, but rather start with a nice Prime amp + sub, figure out what else they want more of, then later down the road upgrade to a Punch series amplifier and subwoofer(s).

[@olszeric]

This video tells you nothing between the three lines. Waste of time.

[@rockfordfosgate]

This is one of several videos designed to give a high level overview of the different series. For details on Prime, Punch, Power line, we have additional videos that go into more detail.

[@jaysonwallker1648]

Again more yak yak yak and no demo. Lame!

[@rockfordfosgate]

Hi Jayson, As noted on your other post, we always recommend critical listening tests be done at your local Authorized Rockford Fosgate dealer on a sound board where you can switch between different models.

[@devlinedwards7543]

Ok this told me absolutely nothing

[@rockfordfosgate]

Thanks for your feedback. It's difficult to explain the differences and go into details when covering the Good-Better-Best of a product line (imagine Chevy doing a video on the differences between GMC, Chevy, and Cadillac). However, these videos were released as a series (note the version at the end of the title), so looking at these one by one, they are missing some context.