Rockstar Games Removes Cars From GTA Online...

[@SomeOrdinaryGamers]

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[@Serph..]

No.

[@PhoenixSS]

No

[@禁-n8x]

No

[@waffles1334]

No

[@Buzzer_Bee]

yes

[@PlayerOne.StartGame]

The fact that they disabled the feedback feature just before this update went live means they knew we were going to be upset by this.

[@RatmanYagami]

Rockstar is quite the company

[@santosarr]

Fuck Rockstar games. ong

[@signaturehighlands628]

Nooooooo really??? I never thought the millions of people who play this game would care

[@D44RK_Iced_Yogs]

I’ve kept up with GTA as I’ve had 90+ days on it. I have no problem or issue dealing with R* BS as I’m one of those dudes who does whatever he can to have fun. That includes breaking the game and using things like SW. However, with this update I have no interest in coming back. I haven’t played much since drug wars and I do love the way they’ve handled QOL changes. This is not QOL though and it’s sad. The only reason they are finally balancing stuff is because the staff isn’t there to support the game with big updates. They’re only doing this because these are technically features and pads the updates to make them look more appealing. That being said, the changes are great and want them to do more with it. Too bad these changes have come with a bad and worse scenario. It’s great for the company and consumers but it’s so bad with how they do the changes. They give QOL features just to revert or restrict the gameplay loop and it’s so dumb. It makes the game less appealing for players as it’s either always been around or just adapted to it. It also doesn’t make people come back and that really hurts playing with friends, it’s insignificant which makes it not worth playing. And the stuff that actually changes the game doesn’t do enough to make up for anything else in that update. Sorry for ranting, Ik it doesn’t affect others or the company but I miss the good old days of playing with friends and doing glitches for cars and unobtainables. I’m proud that so many are keeping up with it though, the lord on how the glitches come to be is amazing and I suggest doing them if you find this shit as BS as it looks. Also, hot take but if I had to choose, I would rather have an orbital cannon not be patched and still have the nearly 200 cars they took.

[@Stef2050]

Yup definitely was like this is a bad idea but we'll do it anyway and make it so no one can criticize us for it ignore the backlash and it doesn't exist

[@TGG_]

It's a great day whenever Muta talks about his filthy GTA Online addiction and the sorry state of the game

[@flxingleton]

Are you still in Australia with DarkViper?

[@flxingleton]

If not I enjoyed you two showing up to twitchcon

[@matthewdeguire472]

Nice to see the Mutaverse and GTAverse collide

[@kinoepigrafe]

I was worried for a moment that he wouldn't highlight this one, thanks god he did

[@ArtflPhenix]

@TGG_ In firefox your name has no checkmark in the comments section

[@PrinceClaudy]

A GTA game without cars is like a pool without water

[@HDReMaster]

you can skate it duuuude

[@JaymeSplendid]

Or Red Dead

[@BonBonToro]

@@HDReMaster -and no means of using a skateboard, rollerskates, scooters etc.*

[@stellahead]

the pool will eventually fill up for free with rain water, your garages will always be empty unless you pay the man !!

[@dregsloff5818]

that turns into a skaters playground.

[@None-lx8kj]

Anyone remember 10 years ago when Rockstar actually developed GTA games instead of just exploiting and milking their customers?

[@deaditedude9201]

You could tell some bad corporate shit was going down when a lot of the heavy hitters left Rockstar. Pretty obvious they didn't like the direction the company was taking.

[@standonprinciple2537]

​@vertwrld1438Quit being a corporate shill, you dimwit.

[@patrykdabrowski1788]

​@vertwrld1438 Yeah, they've been building a "mega game" for at least the past 5 years since rdr2 released when 2005 rockstar would've given us 5 titles in that time, and that's an excuse to be milking out money from people with scummy practices for the past decade. And yeah, "smallest little problems". Like paywalling half the fucking content. Keep these braindead takes to yourself please.

[@sevinkamuels5461]

Find the heads behind these decisions and beat some cents into them.

[@s0daapoppin]

Those days are long gone son....and now it's just....a desolate wasteland of battlepasses and micro transactsions.

[@Gatherway-Duo]

In a game most famously named for the act of stealing cars, they have now made it so that the most desirable cars in the game can only be acquired via a legal purchase. That is so unbelievably stupid, it's actually brilliant.

[@MegaBlair007]

Evil Grand Theft Auto be like:

[@Jarno_Shadowy]

​​@@Unknown_Geniusoesn't mean that GTA didn't become Grand Theft Rockstar. Rockstar likes thefting us now. Instead of us thefting cars we cannot and we have to pay them.

[@aarondavidson6409]

Grand Capitalism Auto

[@Syncrotron9001]

they stole cars from the community, its so meta

[@arzface]

This is technically "Grand Theft Wallet" now. They've made a game series about stealing cars, doing crime and ripping off other criminal gangs, to the point the devs themselves are coming up with schemes to squeeze more cash out of you, and being shameless about it.

[@broughy1322]

Thanks for covering this. It’s nice to see it getting more attention because it’s one of the most scummy things Rockstar has ever done and absolutely needs more eyes on it.

[@jacksonweyer]

Yo what’s good broughy

[@Kacpa2]

It's just moronic, they have no right to do something like this. Each year they show they can make things even worse in new increasingly idiotic and scummy way. It also makes new played experience even worse as decent base GTA5 cars that could be had relatively cheapily are now gone. More of the reason to just play on FiveM servers instead...

[@jezwc]

Nice Broughy

[@boingy-m5q]

the legend himself

[@aaronjohnson1005]

@@Kacpa2 well while I agree with you they actually do have the right because it’s their game

[@todo9633]

I've lost all hope that game companies will ever see any real consequences for their greed.

[@justposi]

They wont you're right to lose hope because as much as we talk shit we still buy and play their crap

[@webmaristocrat4052]

just don't buy and play them. It's not that hard

[@ZaylaaZiaa]

the one who complains are a minority, most people will just shill and give their lifesavings happily to corporate companies

[@justposi]

@@webmaristocrat4052 Until people start doing just that they are going to do what is the most profitable option

[@harleydeclue2456]

@@justposiI don’t. Just don’t. Spend that money on real hobbies, build your credit, etc. Open a Roth IRA and start hiking. Or play games that don’t do micro transactions and passes etc.

[@evilwatermelon99]

It’s crazy how this is the one game where the community collectively agreed that hacking is ok and even encouraged to protest the ridiculous micro transactions

[@PrinceFloof]

Yea we need those last gen gta 5 online hacks to riot

[@jefmoesy]

@@PrinceFloof Im using Kiddions modmenu for years now, never been banned and it's free. Been playing this game since it came out and seen it getting more moneygrab over the years. such a shame i wish it still was a good franchise.

[@UNBOUNDWR]

I feel like them removing content from the game was a social experiment to see what they can get away with

[@coreycasciano3255]

To see if people will stay playing after removing these cars 🤔

[@rad4805]

​@@coreycasciano3255possibly, but I think more so just what they can get away with in general to see where they can maximise profits

[@finkamain1621]

@@rad4805 Remove cars from store -> Add them to casino and GTA+ -> Profit in the most mundane way

[@HumbleHonkingEnthusiast]

It's happened before, the only reason I don't think it is now is because they disabled the feedback feature evidently

[@rad4805]

@@finkamain1621 didn't say it were good, but you'd be surprised how many might stick around. Looking at FIFA and COD tells us that people are willing to repay for the same content, just not as obvious as this.

[@macroholic6876]

I worked at GameStop as a store manager for 9 years. The amount of currency purchased is absolutely insane. Kids buying $100 worth 3-4 times a week using parents card because they give them the pin. It's wild and will never be under control again.

[@cicatrace]

Yup, when LoL introduced skins and shit I knew this whole industry was going to shit. People buying useless skins with real money because they wanna look cool. No wonder there's inflation, people can't save or invest if their life depended on it. Slave mentality

[@thenickseditious]

What's wild is you worked at a gamestop for 9 years

[@Sythorize]

Get back to work wagie

[@melu0o]

Why are you working at gamestop especially for 9 years?

[@kingtimmy88]

I hear your pain. My son plays Roblox and wants an unhealthy amount of roblox

[@DVNGXR]

They said they were only removing lesser used, old vehicles. But they even removed the stirling gt. A car they very recently added an hsw upgrade for. Making it one of the newest vehicles, one of the top 5 fastest top speed vehicles in the entire game and the second fastest car in its class for racing. I highly doubt its "lesser used" because of this hsw upgrade. Coincidentally they immediately put it in the vinewood car club, a brand new location that shows off a rotating series of cars, which you can test drive or buy for a discounted price. But you can only actually buy the cars if you have a gta+ subscription. This is a very obvious attempt by rockstar to create artificial scarcity. They remove a large amount of cars, many of which are actually lesser purchased. Then they occasionally add them back in for special events, etc, allowing them to use re-release old content, as if its new and make it rare and limited. Then when they make one of these cars available, players are more likely to either play a lot and grind to buy it, or spend real money because of fomo. Or the car you want is ony available in the car club for a limited time, so you either have to buy gta+ or miss out and hope it returns eventually some other way. This is honestly a disgusting move by rockstar, a blatant attempt to squeeze even more money out of a 10 year old game that has already been one of the most profitable games of all time.

[@MLPIceberg]

Hey, at least they can't re-release it like Bethesda did to Skyrim. Right? ... Right? ... God I fucking hope not...

[@Kacpa2]

Even if it was just "lesser used vehicles" they have no right to do this at all. It removes choice especially for newer players. Lots of lower price decent cars got removed for no damn reason.

[@09RHYS]

Well said!! 👌🏻🔥

[@duartemad]

Q😊😊😊😊1😊😊1😊11😊3

[@Thatdude877]

The Sterling was actually one of my favorite cars....I won it from the podium early on in playing and spent so many hours driving that car.

[@handledtruth]

Rockstar saw us stealing cars and was like "hold up that looks fun"

[@bruh-ItsTokyo]

Thwn stole our cars and make us pay for it, oh that is so shit for people who don't have the cars loool.

[@walter_248]

​@@bruh-ItsTokyo ID leaking security flaw: these children are always complaining, let us work Police car customization glitch: What?? Better fix it right away before people have fun!!

[@bruh-ItsTokyo]

@@walter_248 now that is something I don't know about. I don't like glitch users bc it can mess up the game for people and people who are in the server with you vet their accounts banned with you alongside everyone else. Like my friend Kage (his real name) who was livestreaming and a glitch user was in the same lobby as him. So apparently everyone in that lobby got their accounts banned.

[@walter_248]

@@bruh-ItsTokyo I'm talking about Rockstar ignoring harmful security flaws like the current unsafe peer to peer connection GTAO uses which can potentially leak IP addresses, but getting out of their way to fix fun glitches right away. That you said also says a lot about their neglect banning and/or resetting accounts.

[@bruh-ItsTokyo]

@@walter_248 What I also disliked he showed them evidence of it and his account, they still had his account reset and banned. So it is like wtf Rockstar, it is actually people behind the review team who look over that stuff so someone was likely being an asshole. I told him to wait another day or two and report the issue again to not get the same person and this time do it during the day or afternoon. Rockstar has a small review and report team (aka customer service), just like some major large companies do and to lash out on people due to the high stress the workers are put thru, they put it on the public, now it looks bad for the company. There are many people who worked at Rockstar and couldn't survive there for a year because of what was going on. So yes they are desperate need of new members for their team. Their old staff left or is leaving because of all this pushing back on GTA 6 project, while training new people who weren't taught anything in college about how that area works because now they are hiring college kids with smaller backgrounds and knowing they are going to immediately leave. ( Sorry for the rant)

[@Valium762]

People love to give EA crap over Fifa and Battlefront 2, but this is more egregious than anything they've ever done. Rockstar is by far the most predatory company out there. They straight up abandoned Red Dead 2: Online simply because they couldn't figure out a way to nickle and dime players into oblivion like this

[@Frosty1026]

Yup it’s fucking sad af I love red dead absolutely loved both games and I completely dropped gta online like 5 or so years ago I think I played it one time on the Xbox one and was just tired of the nickel and dime practices they had in there grind this one mission out for 12 hours or just buy a $50 shark card for the same value if not more

[@Furcapper]

Not to mention that they seem to use practices that most free to play games use to encourage players into spending more money. It's laughable that RDR2 online was abandoned because people didn't want to spend money on their dumb ideas and thus they deemed it unprofitable.

[@TheAverageGamer1]

Idk EAs Star Wars themed casino aimed at kids got them in legal trouble. IMO that takes the cake as the scummiest company

[@sankaplays3098]

No they abandoned RD 2 Online because the single player trainers worked in multiplayer thanks to the way they coded the online segment of the game, effectively having no anti cheat at all turning the game in to a shit hole.

[@napoleonbonaparte9815]

i also got a email i received that warned me of revoking my access to social club for a week when i only played rdr2 online once XD i quit playing their titles after that, however i went back into gta online just to see what it was like, nothing was changed, sadly i spent 100 to unlock the avenger but i have the game uninstalled now since years

[@madladon]

It's clear what their goal is when you look at the motorcycles - they removed every one that was less that $1,000,000. It wasn't the "lesser used" ones, it was the options that were too cheap for Rockstar.

[@HansBelphegor]

Glad i have a small collection of 801s and 801rrs

[@Piplupo]

Yeah i saw people use the faggio mod all the time they are straight up just lying

[@Amorphous_Sand]

Makes a lot of sense, actually. However, why couldn't they have just increased the price of those vehicles instead of removing them?

[@NiskaMagnusson]

Rockstar NEVER fails to disappoint, their terrible anti-consumer choices make Bethesda look like saints

[@elseggs6504]

They really do. Fallout 76s Battlepasses are free while the ones Red Dead Online had charged MTX currency

[@gamrknight8060]

@@elseggs6504 and at least Bethesda still updates fallout 76 (despite the fact that it should've never happened in the first place)

[@NiskaMagnusson]

@IRONMENSCH Music Official complaining is good for the soul!

[@gamrknight8060]

@ironmenschmusicofficial well to be honest their fanbase for gta online is 90% children who are younger than the game they are obsessed with and whales who spend every penny they earn on it.

[@DovahFett]

Bethesda is way further down that list than you think. They support their modding community with free in-house modding tools, an extremely modifiable engine, and frequent job offers to the most talented and prolific modders. Bethesda also brought modding to consoles for free, which was an industry first. They also heavily discount the remasters and rereleases that they put out (Skyrim SE was free for existing owners and Skyrim AE was only $20 despite having far more than that value in terms of Creation Club content). I've found that 90% of the time people who think that Bethesda are anti-consumer are just idiots who can't tell the difference between their actions and the actions of ZeniMax and Bethesda Softworks. Or even better, they can't tell the difference between Bethesda Austin (a new studio setup just to develop Fallout 76) and Bethesda Maryland (the studio that makes the main TES games and Fallouts).

[@NorthLaker]

The main problem is that people just keep playing no matter what Rockstar does. I don't see any reason for them to disappoint players like they always do, but I also realise that there aren't that many repercussions for them either.

[@antman9501]

"MOMMY! need credit card for ten year old game please. gta +!"

[@CNSninja]

Maybe _you_ do. The only Rockstar game I'll touch with a ten foot pole anymore is Red Dead Redemption 2, and only ever story mode.

[@nousername2942]

They realized they have a monopoly over this entire genre. A genre that was one of the most popular during the original Xbox days. They can do literally anything they want and people will still play because every other developer is too broke or afraid to make a game like this.

[@maklame3318]

Its addict behaviour

[@Smoke_999]

Nah, after I realized all of that bs, I simply stopped and got into other games. Best decision I have made after wasting 700 hours trying to grind for idk, money? Eh it does not matter anymore.

[@CaptScrotes]

Rockstar: we've removed lesser used cars to streamline the process Also Rockstar: allows cars removed to be sold in an exclusive club that makes old "favourites" available for sale.

[@DedAlexFive]

Also Also Rockstar: drip feeds me a f*ing MOUNTAIN BIKE

[@BayFilmLab]

Also rockstar: only ps5 and Xbox shit

[@КГБКолДжорджКостанца]

Ahh yes Pay to Play, or win the rigged spin wheel

[@stackhom656]

Important Edit: TIL you can't even steal some of the higher end NPC cars(like the Comet) and put a tracker on it via LS Customs to claim it as your own. You will get a prompt that "the vehicle is too hot to modify." What the fuck. As a GTAO racing tryhard, its very infuriating that they removed S tier cars that are only obtainable through the online websites. Some of the cars they removed which they considered "unused" are actually the most iconic and used cars by the car community. I doubt that the firetruck (wasn't removed) is used more than the Entity XF.

[@cameronmacdonald3482]

They just greedy

[@lukav3509]

it would be cheaper to just get a mod menu and spawn them rather than paying for all of the subscriptions

[@vand5907]

@@lukav3509 stand is good for this, plus it just outright has options to disable dripfeeding and put everything into the store regardless of release date. I had the Hotring Everon in my garage like 2 weeks before it actually dropped lol

[@kingvector1198]

Dude. They have the Post OP van, the crappiest MC sell mission vehicle, yah, that, remember, called the Boxville, exists on Warstock?? That still exists on the ingame webs, being so "lesser-used". Bs Rockstar.

[@zephyr8072]

Whenever you see Rockstar’s fake excuses for what they’re doing, just mentally replace whatever they’re saying with Mr. Krabs going “I like money.”

[@jaysupreme7867]

It’s sad to see what this company has come to🤦🏾‍♂️

[@PickleNick7008]

what this company has always been like*

[@BannedSports]

Well they are thinking everything will go away once Gta6 comes out. They are banking on people having a short memory of all the terrible things they have done in Gta5 and how long we had to play the same map, same story etc…

[@jakiudarac2206]

Wait and see what they do with gta6, it will be x10 worst then this

[@BannedSports]

@@jakiudarac2206 I believe right from the start, the online version of the game will be insanely expensive for anything in-game. I say look at prices for all the new things coming in Gta5, and that is what the price tags will be day 1 on….

[@astygmatyzm9071]

@@BannedSports I'll be suprised if GTA 6 story mode has no microtransactions.

[@jimsmith3715]

The fact they abandoned RDO says enough about how much GTA V money changed them.

[@stormwave555]

In their mind it's fair to add around 8 new" cars and remove 180+ "unpopular" cars like one of the best most popular bikes in the game that costs 15k but keep those 2mill+ bikes that are slower that it

[@0oooooooog]

Yeah if you look for vehicles under 1 mil you really see the end goal in action, 90% of the removed vehicles were cheap.

[@HansBelphegor]

Was it the 801?

[@eq4611]

Power surge is fastest bike

[@ashleybatt3523]

@@HansBelphegor yeah the bait 801

[@MylesClub]

I'm gonna put this into numbers for anybody curious as to how bad this really is. All values will be rounded to the nearest 5 for legibility and to account for human error be it mine or the GTA wiki, which I've used for my calculations as they already had everything sorted neatly into categories, and thusly, shouldn't be treated as concrete fact but rather approximations. There were about 455 cars in GTA Online that you could purchase, by my calculations, barring cars that have their own garage slots (Khanjali, Thruster, MOC) direct upgrades (ie. Benny's Cars or LWB cars) or sidegrades (Arena War Cars) to another vehicle. This update, meanwhile removed about 195 of those cars, leaving us with about 260 cars, give or take. This is about 40% of the cars that were deleted. Most of which were general usage cars, your sports cars, off-roaders, SUVs, what have you. So, let's take this number into consideration, and let's look at a different set of numbers. The garage spaces available to a player. You can own 10 properties, plus one which can have 50 slots, with the other ones having 10, leaving us with 150 spaces for cars from just the main properties. Now let's add the office garage, which is another 60 spots. Bringing us to a nice, clean, 210. From there, we also got, and I may have a number wrong here or there so bear with me. Agency: 21 cars (231) Clubhouse: 10 bikes, which we won't count as being reserved like the Khanjali and such, since you can put any bike in there (241) Nightclub: 1 on the top floor, with 3 garages of ten each, making 31 (272) As you can see, we've already passed the amount of purchasable cars. Let's keep going though, since we can. Arcade: 10 more cars (282) Facility: 10 more cars, discounting exclusive parking (292) MOC: 1 (293) Workshop: 30, discounting execlusive parking for the Cereberus, Scarab and Sasquatch. (313) Auto Shop: 10 (323) For the sake of it, I will include the 2 spots for the Opp Mk 2 and the Submersible Cars in the Terrorbyte and Kosatka respectively, since those cars can go in other garage spots and therefore, the spots here save garage space in main garages. (325) So out of 325 spots for cars, you can only fill 260 of them with any car from the website now. Make do with this information as you please. Edited due to a counting error with the 50 car garage.

[@amans2806]

Synopsis: it’s fucked 🤭

[@Olibuu]

This should be pinned.

[@AbuHajarAlBugatti]

What a useless comment. Who still even plays this cheater infested poop? I stopped 1 years after its release

[@Alex-dd9xx]

what the fuck is all this chill

[@SkyGrizzzley]

Here I am think 21's 12 car garage was a lot

[@RiskyWiskyHD]

Pc gamers don't panic. Just contact your nearest modder and have him duplicate the car for you. Yes, even removed cars can be duplicated, and modders will even give it to you for free if you're nice to them.

[@nopenoperson9118]

Skiddies save the day against Rockstar yet again

[@justryan5697]

Non-toxic modders? You’re funny buddy

[@Just_a_Piano_]

@@justryan5697 A youtube commenter having something smart to say? You're funny buddy

[@dumbdumbdumb5093]

​@@justryan5697you'd be surprised

[@andrewrules231]

My modder replaced all the NPCs with sleepy joe and everytime I boot up the game I get sniffed to death

[@panqueque445]

As someone who hasn't played GTA online since the game came out, I'm shocked there were even this many cars in the game

[@tricursor2481]

It's because they're not doing single player dlc, only online. These cars, flyable motorcycles, jets, and even new areas are all exclusive to gta online. We could have had a zombie single player dlc if people wouldn't have made this so valuable for rockstar. Don't just blame rockstar, blame the community

[@Mypenisissmallbut]

@@tricursor2481 I agree a paid story mode DLC would be 1000x better than the 13 year old wet dream that is Online now.

[@tricursor2481]

@@Unknown_Genius i thought that the dlc that had the werewolf and some other paranormal things had some pretty solid evidence in the code of single player zombie stuff? That's what i heard at least. Maybe it was going to be gta online, but i just can't get over how good of an idea it is to make a zombie apocalypse dlc for gta. Undead nightmare is one of the best dlcs I've ever played, and in a city filled with pedestrians and ways to mess around? It just seems perfect to me.

[@chadmann2724]

as the occasional menace to society this was news to me too... My head hurts at that idea...

[@MaigenMaylight]

Keep in mind, some of these vehicles like the Infernus have been in the game since 2013. If they really want to run with that narrative that these vehicles were "lesser used" then it speaks volumes for just how oversaturated GTA Online became. Really it's just them wanting to lock these cheaper vehicles behind a pay paywall because people could get them too easily for free.

[@gotworc]

You can't get them for free because you can't store them in your garage. You'd still need to buy them but yeah they're significantly cheaper

[@MaigenMaylight]

@@gotworc Well, that's what I meant. You'd still be paying in-game currency but you wouldn't be giving R* any real money. Obviously Take Two saw that as a problem and had them do something about it.

[@relasoft]

Funny thing: they remove "lesser used cars" then added a new bicycle into the game (drip feed). R* logic.

[@Just_a_Piano_]

@@MaigenMaylight Which gives all the more reason to start modding. Rise up brothers fuck up the game so bad that this shit company will actually do something productive for once. Even if we literally have to force it out of them. Which even they probably still wouldn't do shit. They only did anything about that remote code bs because they could have gotten into a lawsuit lol

[@squillz8310]

I just fucking got the Imerus too what the fuck

[@missjoints]

The Infernus being taken off of the market is my breaking point. I am dying on the inside at this point

[@orenz.272]

Lmao

[@hypnobear7908]

I remember back in the day, before the PC release, this car was first and last I bought with real money. I feel you.

[@JM-dq7xn]

I've always found gta v's infernus rendition to be ugly, but damn it was *iconic* ugly you know, like sphinx cat or a bedlington terrier dog - ugly but so *loveable*

[@hypnobear7908]

@@JM-dq7xn yeah, I've recently replayed GTA 4 and it is so much better with cars and handling, but plagued with inconvenience of dropping frames every now and then.

[@pioneershuffler]

I bought one couple months ago 😎

[@LoveHandle4890]

That’s ok. Mutahar will drive us around in his real life car.

[@jonathanbourke9755]

He's got a pretty fire mustang

[@De1taTarkov]

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[@CripticK1ng]

@@jonathanbourke9755 is it gt

[@feelincrispy7053]

A 4cyl mustang? Yeah naaaaa

[@andrewrules231]

his name is Semito

[@flowmastaflam]

this suggests to me they're acclimatizing players for the smaller vehicle list at the start of GTA6. they don't want the sudden change to feel bad

[@TailsCanFly]

Being a veteran gta online player, i've seen rockstar do some stupid things thru the years. But this is by far the worst decision they ever made.

[@andrewrules231]

what is the appeal of GTA online? Iv been playing GTA since the late 90's and I always felt the online aspect was boring

[@noddyboffin2988]

​@@andrewrules231 The appeal was and always has been the cars for me. So, so many to kit out, customize and cruise around in, many more than in single player. This is why the decision is baffling, it's the main draw of GTA Online.

[@Alfred-Neuman]

How to tell people you are smooth brained without saying that you are smooth brained... lol

[@rompevuevitos222]

And you are gonna take this one in the cheek too?

[@turkiedurkie4895]

@@andrewrules231 the cars, the custom-ability the fact you can just hang out with your buddies for a good several hours just simply fooling around by doing the dumbest shit WITH said cars. I find it a “ make your own fun” game

[@gamerdrive5565]

There’s gotta be a way to class action against micro transactions and in game purchases, the more I think about it, the more I see ways they’ll be able to get around anything the less I think it’s possible, but some geniuses exist.

[@maxpro751]

No your just dumb, a class action against micro transactions? You would literally get rid of in game currencies for A LOT of games and ruin the user experience for millions of people. I don’t understand what your trying to argue here.

[@SHADOMEGA7569]

Honestly I feel MTXs should be banned from games as majority of the games that have em basically turn into pay to win. However there are some games out there where the MTXs are pointless and act only as a means to shortcut your way up in the event you fuck up. GTA I stopped playing when lobbies were filled with 5 year olds on oppressor MK2s and random death match lobbies lead to unfair parkour maps where a 5 year old would just camp in the APC killing everyone forcing you to become a bad sport for quitting a match with a timer set to 45 minutes. This was 6 years ago so I have a growing hate towards GTA for how the game is. Adding a pointless subscription (like there isn't enough of those damn things already) is a sure fair way kill the game. Honestly I'm going to leave a negative review on steam as I got it as a stress test for my rig and I fairly enjoy doing the single player missions. Not so much now that cockhard had to incorporate their launcher that never wants to work for me into the mix. Honestly you're better off setting sail than supporting them with anything

[@2hotflavored666]

Or... You could just not play the game. And stop buying new Rockstar games as well.

[@gamerdrive5565]

@@2hotflavored666 oh mate I don’t play the game, I just miss the gta 4 days when we were waiting on rockstars full potential, then online gaming and micro transactions came through and beat that potential into the dirt.

[@2hotflavored666]

@@gamerdrive5565 Ain't that the truth. 😔

[@DaSniper406]

One of my favorite things to do was to grab one of those “lesser cars” to see the customization they have from the Spoilers, Livery and Exhaust options some are diamonds in the rough.

[@user-hs9rd9ym4n]

Fuck yes, exactly! The liveries and little unique modifications, I loved fucking with those way back when.

[@D44RK_Iced_Yogs]

Muta explaining the way of buying and how the game works for people who’ve never played the game is awesome. He breaks things down for all types of people!

[@chiquita683]

Yea I stopped playing after Vice City

[@shen4379]

@@chiquita683 And miss out on SA???

[@m955-q7z]

I’ve been playing gta online for over a month and I’m still level 12 with 500k to my name

[@user-dnf83n0s8sg9u]

@@m955-q7z Bleeeeeak

[@user-dnf83n0s8sg9u]

@@m955-q7z I hope fortune finds you

[@georgem2768]

The removal of the cars, having personal vehicles and aircraft’s getting taken away because you customised the MOC and having your guns removed in the Cayo Perico heist because you died. This is next to the Smugglers Run as the 2nd worst update.

[@Joemamahahahaha821]

Wait, I haven’t played gta o in ages, and haven’t gotten through the vid: If I had a car that they just removed in my garage it is now gone from my garage?

[@amagimofumofu6549]

@@Joemamahahahaha821 nah , its just not buyable on stores anymore , if you bought it already you still have it

[@bhavyashandilya]

​@@Joemamahahahaha821no, you will still have it. He's talking about another glitch where you customize your MOC and your current car gets DELETED forever.

[@gabrisgamer450]

It would be so cruel to show the state of Rockstar today to a GTA fan from back in early 2000’s-2010’s. RIP Comet my favorite car from the GTA franchise

[@desfefe]

It's funny but GTA 5 online is the best and worst thing to have ever happened to rockstar. If gta 5 wasn't doing so well, then maybe we wouldnt have had all those shit dumpster fires we havee seen today.

[@jamespondy0]

You say that like they're all dead or something.

[@escrows]

I almost muted this and turned on subtitles for this video. Holy high energy

[@yeezoyoutube]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves guys, obviously this is just the beginning of the "crimeless" dlc, where we get five stars for walking grannies across the street

[@YippingFox]

an experience improvement would probably dividing the shark card price by 15× or so. Combine that with setting every single item in the game on sale for 10% of the listed price.

[@jytvreal]

When we think rockstar cannot get any worse, they surprise us, their fall off needs to be documented it's actually sad

[@markusk1015]

Bro the future of rockstar games makes me nervous

[@andrewrules231]

@@markusk1015 commitment makes me nervous

[@Nev1812]

This what happens to companies when they get *too* big

[@mightyman116]

​@@Nev1812 yep and that's what happens when stupid online multiplayer games comes and ruins the whole experience

[@scottoleson1997]

@@markusk1015it’s over after GTA6 comes out. It’s probably gonna be really popular for about a month, then people are gonna start complaining about how GTA 5 was so much better.

[@EbilEnemyofBurgerTown]

Rockstar Games Try Not To Make The Game Worse For The Players Challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

[@TheNightRichard]

I'm just surprised people are still pumping money into this over a decade later. Thinking back to when I still played GTA Online feels like a really long time ago.

[@nousername2942]

Because it was. I was starting high school in 2013. They've realized they have a monopoly over these kinds of games because nobody else will dare to make one.

[@CatDuckz]

The irony of me getting a rockstar games ad for the exact DLC at the end of this video

[@duckmehh546]

its amazing how game companys find the worst possible decisions to make

[@hellaflush.]

when they mention they removed cars for streamlining the browsing experience, they removed the Comet which is on Legendary Motorsports & Benny's... and Benny's isn't even cluttered it has very few cars and instead of removing the comet on just Legendary Motorsports they removed it on both websites. It shows they have other incentives in mind

[@Winland88]

Comet Retro Custom is probably the reason why it got removed from Benny's as well, i mean that car looks pretty damn good so i assume it will be in category of "highly sought after" meaning it will be seen in Vinewood club someday to give justification for GTA+ subscription. If Elegy wasn't a free car it would have most likely got vaulted as well just because it can be turned to Elegy Retro Custom. My prediction is that all "awesome" cars will be featured in Vinewood while all "peasant" cars will be tossed in Simeon's and Luxury Autos.

[@caseyguilfoyle4580]

They remove 180+ cars for no particular reason and nobody asked for it, but I still encounter God Mode griefers and get modded out of my own session. It’s like R* intentionally wants to make the game terrible.

[@ng2371]

GTA is finally more realistic, I couldn't afford these cars in RL so thank God, I can't afford them online. Uncanny how true to life its becoming.

[@juane.vargas5986]

Just an FYI, once they come out on the daily wheel, you can infinitely spin it until you get the car. Just restart your game before the wheel stops.

[@SoundsLegit71]

By the time gta loads i have to go to bed.

[@ant7257]

@@SoundsLegit71😂😂

[@Luximoz]

Doesn't it still take 15 seconds to confirm if you want to qui if you try force closing it from the Task Manager though?

[@phantacarrytemari]

just wait for the next gta honestly

[@sjfs231]

@@Luximoz no

[@Frankieishot1]

The fact that I just got an ad for San Andreas mercenaries before watching this video is hilarious!

[@Drequan]

every time i think rockstar can't hit a new low they prove me wrong ☠️

[@Ju5tMatt]

I love how Muta is so off the hook on this one. Absolute madman. I support this rant 100%, tired of being shafted by companies that we expect more out of. Especially most of us growing up with these games and companies. It's so nice to see every company I grew up with following the 'EA EXPERIENCE BABY!!!'. ffs

[@paxnpaxn3231]

They honestly could’ve let players search for car by the ingame fictional brands which would’ve made it a lot easier to find things. Especially if specific brands only sold certain types of vehicles.

[@SKizzleAXE]

BREAKING: GTA 6 will not have cars, only horses 😂 press triangle to park horse*

[@pureh2oh92]

only horses :)

[@goldylover1000]

Your gonna have to walk to the next mission.

[@shalindelta7]

@pureh2oh92 nope, but you can customize and pimp out your shoes. First you gotta buy them ofcourse, until then you wear flip flops.

[@finkamain1621]

Wouldn't surprise me in the next game that cars are just like NFTs, so you can only buy them with real money and trade them with players

[@BonBonToro]

@@goldylover1000 meanwhile the next mission is at the complete opposite side of the map 😳

[@onyxserenitatem7636]

I spent years grinding until I had every business, where I wanted them, fully upgraded and had every essential vehicle to help with that. Not even a week before this update I got into a comfortable position to start buying vehicles I like. Only to find all the classics are getting removed

[@iamjohnporter67]

Oh man as a GTA Fan I was SO FURIOUS when they got rid of those cars. I swear this is unacceptable!

[@antonbaydala9780]

Small indie company needs more funding to develop their next game

[@ulgrineh1]

They already wasted like 60% of their funds on bad gta online updates that only keep those lvl 100+ nolifes playing and milk them

[@adesh3573]

Muta's elbow coming to rest that close to an uncovered bottle of water has given me anxiety

[@jacehackworth6413]

I can’t think of a single worse example of a publisher squeezing their customers for every cent. Introducing fomo for stuff that’s been in the game forever just to sell a few more shark cards before the next game comes out is a new level of greed. And then they gaslight you by saying it’s an improvement. If you think GTA 6 won’t be the most monetized game of all time right out of the gate you’re kidding yourself.

[@C2Talon]

I already couldn't get over not being able to keep the autos I grandly thefted in a Grand Theft Auto game. Like, wtf. Now, people can't even get the fancy cars with the excessively grinding non-fun things that "reward" barely any money. Though I honestly can't tell what's worse, the absurd amount of grind that used to be required to get anything, or removing the things people would want to excessively grind for in order to force people to spend real-world money instead. Glad I noped out of that game after only a few hours.

[@Manus_0813]

Same…I finished the story (I still prefer the San Andreas and Vice City ones) then I played like 5 hours online, got bored and never played it again 😅

[@CorruptLeviathan]

Rockstar: "You know what the players will love? Removing content from the decade old game they're still playing some reason. They'll love that."

[@shaunsteele4968]

The sales are going to still come screaming in when the armored kuruma is made 5 million dollars more expensive and put as a limited time buyable "dont have to unlock" with that car club.

[@casualcatastrophe5674]

Thanks for talking about this, Muta. I feel a bit of relief listening to you rant about this bullshit. Your rants about the state of modern gaming make me feel a little less crazy for getting so angry about the way things have been going for us gamers. I really appreciate you, man.

[@PrinceFloof]

He's not the first guy, everyone in the gaming space is rallying about this nonsense

[@NaaahBruv]

Got back into GTA Online the other day and I remembered why I stopped. You grind for days to make a couple million so you can spend that couple million on a property to allow you to spend days grinding to make a couple million, rinse and repeat. I know you can make some easy money if you're smart about it and get some momentum going, but I don't have that kind of time or patience. Not to mention all the griefing hackers. The only thing I liked doing with the money was buying and modifying cars, and they've removed some of my favourite cars. I'm not buying a GTA+ subscription when I've already bought their game 3 times.

[@Franshela]

I've been a "that's not that bad" guy when it comes to Rockstar. But removing content from the game "just because" is got to be the biggest shit thrown to people like me who thinks stupid changes "arent that bad"

[@TheEmpowerment1]

LOL they can't stop hackers and mass server crashes and mass greifing actions and yet they decide "removing cars" is a friggin "experience improvement."

[@unluckythrasher]

Another genius decision from Rockstar

[@yobananaboy2003]

that uncanny laugh of his really bring backs memories.

[@ok_7477]

GTA, From Grand Theft Auto to Grand Theft Wallet.

[@Grim_Concept]

It will be very disappointing when GTA 6 breaks records continuing this cycle.

[@astygmatyzm9071]

That's just Grand Theft.

[@ICEBAM73]

Everyday I am constantly proven wrong as to just how terrible Rockstar can be

[@BouncingTribbles]

Rockstar made their ratio expectation clear. 5+ million dollar buy in to do missions with a $15k payout

[@BigSmokeRailfanning]

Funny enough, i got a GTA ad with the san andreas bank heist right in this video.

[@thelatinoguy]

Nigga, ain't no way, my garage is almost completely empty

[@coreycasciano3255]

🤣

[@nothingam9983]

😂😂 please report this to LSPD

[@ItsKryptick]

This doesn't feel like a Rockstar change, this feels like a Take Two change.

[@IsaiahRowland-jg7sg]

The dick riding is unreal 😂

[@Louis360]

This

[@hendrx]

Who cares at this point

[@publicenemynr5]

After red dead online i wouldn't be so sure, both parties are guilty

[@ItsKryptick]

@@publicenemynr5 Again, think that can be looped back to Take Two. They have so many incentives now for pushing micro transactions. GTAO is still their cash cow, so unfortunately everything else goes on the back burner.

[@YDSTE]

i love how your mood slowly kinda rises like a crescendo until it builds to a FEVERISH BOIL. and then you flip like a switch and bring it back hahahaha

[@DebbieDickens]

Funny enough Dan Houser has just announced that he formed his own independent studio, after hearing this latest scam from Rockstar, I'm understanding more and more why he left.

[@gotohellyoutube]

Just when I was thinking about coming back... Never change, Rockstar.

[@shaunsteele4968]

Here is a new protip for any team going for the kuruma. Dont be the guy on that last bike. Whose supposed to do it? Not you if you dont want kicked from the heist squad.

[@gmooney77]

I figured something like this was coming a couple months ago when all of my mods would suddenly refuse to spawn certain cars in single player. They would spawn in but then the game immediately would remove them. Rockstar is killing every last bit of goodwill they have before they regain all of it with the GTA 6 trailer.

[@spuuud]

as much as i'm looking forward to gta6 singleplayer, the online is what has me worried

[@thecoolnessking5834]

not to mention most silent heists are now broken where you can sometimes kill no one and you get a body found

[@dannykay2945]

Crazy thing is that if people are playing and buying that subscription right now just think of what will happen with gta 6 anyway to milk that $$$.

[@KrpticUnknown]

this has been happening since microtransactions became a staple for games like this, its just now we actually get to see them physically take the content you should already be able to access and place it behind a paywall as opposed to the game being released that way.

[@billmelater6470]

More and more, I'm glad I don't really play games anymore. There's an upside to having too many hobbies, especially ones where you make things instead of play things.

[@Vickolai]

They essentially neutered their own product back to when GTA online was first launched. They remove damn near most of the vehicles that they've dropped over the years. With the early irritates me is the fact that they never imported them over to single player once they made them a staple of the online play because some of these would have been really cool to have in single player. For instance, my favorite, The Kreiger.

[@Vickolai]

If I could buy the Krieger in single player I would actually play the single player but as it stands I have no one nor need to play it so it's almost like wasted space on my hard drive because all I want is the online side.

[@C00L9UY]

Use a trainer, it lets you spawn any car into singleplayer.

[@Vickolai]

@@C00L9UY i play on PS

[@C00L9UY]

@@Vickolai L

[@Vickolai]

@@C00L9UY not really because some of us actually have jobs that take up most of our daily lives. My paycheck is more valuable then playing a game. Besides the state of console titles is less than subpar these days. When they can charge you $70 for a game that's not even 100% finished upon release? Why are we paying as much for unfinished title? And this went from just being one two games to damn near every game on the market. Trust me I would love nothing more than to go buy a PC. Mods would probably desperately change up my gaming experience and actually get me back in the gaming.

[@VoltZRR]

I don’t get their thought process doing this… they removed not just some of the most iconic cars in gta 5, but some of the most iconic cars from gta history… the infernus??? Are you kidding me???

[@eclipse9304]

Every year Rockstar makes me miss the 2015 version of GTA online more and more.

[@hawken582]

I've played GTA Online for a bit, I think I'm at level 20-45 since I started last year in 2022, and I've actually had quite an enjoyable experience with the little bit I've played, but them removing this many cars from the in-game websites really just makes me not want to play it anymore, especially since I have a passion for cars and other vehicles, and I have no nice cars or anything like that, so as a low-level this really pissed me off, as it probably has for other low levels as well. I feel like this is one of the stupidest things Rockstar did, and not even mentioning the fact they locked some of them behind a damn in-game subscription.

[@stackhom656]

if you can, don't play GTAO anymore or just go with FiveM, I'm considering it as well due to the state of Online lol.

[@landonkam6727]

Same here, I got it for free on Epic games and I've been playing it sporadically with my cousin for a couple years. We both have a couple nice cars but now I don't feel like ever playing it again. Such a shame.

[@hawken582]

@@stackhom656 Yeah, I've never really played online cuz of griefers, but that day I started I did kind of enjoy it, and now I don't wanna play it anymore because there were some cars that I actually had a goal to get in online. I don't really play FiveM either mainly cuz I don't know how to navigate it very well, so I just stick to LSPDFR or modded singleplayer now.

[@TioBru.]

You don't use mod menu to upgrade your level, money, free win on cassino and free win o car roullete? are you crazy or what ?

[@R46E]

another great decision by a massive company! yipee!

[@nuxsuukow8565]

after thousands of hours in ps3/4 gta online, this is why i payed 12 dollars for a pc mod menu 💀

[@Chadmlad]

All 184 dislikes are Rockstar employee's and Execs

[@train_go_boom2065]

And the meat riders

[@Lawnmower737]

How can you see the dislikes?

[@Chadmlad]

@@Lawnmower737 Did my comment get deleted? I use an extension called KellyC Show KZbin Dislikes on Internet Explorer Theres similar extensions on other browsers

[@drifzyy67]

Rest in peace my favourite cars. Nebula Turbo, Zion Classic, Sentinel, Cheburek, Faggio, Obey 9F, 190z, Futo and Warrener

[@tg9374]

Not the futo😢

[@weaponizedautism3269]

​@@tg9374 Thank god i bought tofu car

[@MinefighterLP]

They really have gotten insane. Removing so many iconic vehicles and putting them behind a paywall is peak Rockstar.

[@MegaDrain]

I really wish we could go back to 2015 when the Heists first released. It was still so grounded then and popularity for the game resurged with this expansion and it was just still fun. It was also the time when you could play the ps4 and xbox one version and not drop to 15fps in the city because there wasn't so much stuff.

[@Shark_King325]

People should’ve protested the online feature on this game years ago other players are just as much to blame for supporting this crap and buying microtransactions consistently

[@noob_exe_boffy]

Well they removed one of the only things keeping the game still alive

[@CNSninja]

Man, we call Rockstar the "Fun Police" for good reasons, but they've really outdone themselves this time. Next thing you know they'll be closing all their studios because they've discovered that people have fun playing Rockstar games!

[@lofifomi7529]

Having no modders in lobbies would be a improved experience than removing cars 💀

[@EricClapton1945]

No joke I got back into the game recently and was really enjoying customizing cars! Then this...

[@unfavred4205]

everyday I think muta has reached peak insanity then he uploads again and shatters that barrier

[@ScottLucian]

I'm getting SICK AND TIRED of Rockstar's bullshit, I have to be honest. It's been YEARS of greedy, soulless crap they've pulled.

[@asiano3385]

I remember having a lime green Comet but after some updates they required to do all stunt jumps to unlock this color so I no longer had the possibility to set the color.

[@sirnofaceart]

Auto shop paint, it's free n unlocked !

[@asiano3385]

@@sirnofaceart well I don't play Online anymore but interesting anyway.

[@sirnofaceart]

@@asiano3385 yessir all good

[@the_afterburner6080]

Watching muta screaming at the camera eyes wide open from the other side of his recording room must be absolutely scary.