Rockstar Games Is Still Scamming With The GTA: Definitive Edition...

[@SomeOrdinaryGamers]

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[@KyleKyle__]

I ❤ u

[@Za1diot]

Damn I’m early

[@trolly4774]

ok

[@outlyingcrow9726]

Ok

[@noname-wy2vy]

Johhny

[@dieselpatches]

this is how i feel about skyrim. love the game but bethesda is also shameless like this.

[@operationcuntdestroyer7334]

Hi there

[@hexonn9355]

hi

[@afuturehobo]

oh hello there mr patches

[@DoTheThugShaker]

daddy

[@___Tony___1]

Come Back with the milk train man

[@MoonWielder]

They say when you hit rock bottom, there is nowhere else to go except the top, but in Rockstar’s case, they started digging down.

[@mr.pothosswag8396]

The lit a ciggrit and started drilling to the centre of the Earth

[@HylianWindRider]

Broke the number one rule of minecraft, and got what was coming to them.

[@skulltula1352]

Sad but true...

[@MrCruuush]

They are innovators that way

[@bennyblunto973]

Once they realize they stuck gold by digging down they kept doing it

[@AccelSternritter]

Remember when Rockstar Games was a team of guys with a lot of passion for gaming and gave their best to create those awesome titles? Good old times.

[@zaccorpseman7366]

Quite the downfall for many video game studios, and we see more and more acting this way. When all the greed pushes you so hard that you create nothing but steaming hot garbage..

[@Astra3yt]

It makes sense because most of the original staff had left the studio (namely one of the Houser's brothers).

[@Wobble2007]

They were an incredibly talented dev house, I think they are capable of still producing magic, I hope they are able to pull it off with the next GTA, I mean GTA 5 was brilliant, as was RD2, it's a shame they don't put out other IPs any more though, like Bully, Manhunt, Midnight Racers, Warriors, they really haven't put out anything like they used too sadly, so much of their effort has gone into cash grabbing from GTA Online, and now the terrible GTA Trilogy downmake, the OG PC versions of the GTA games are so much better, even the OG XB versions are much better, they say these things come in threes, so I hope GTA 6 isn't the third strike from R*, the single player GTA games have always been a favourite of mine, surely they will show us they still are capable of magic when they release it, also I'd love to finally see a proper RDR port to PC, properly handled by R* though and not butchered, a port of RDR with RTX, 4K/8K+ textures, DirectStorage, good audio and so on.

[@222taxation8]

@@Wobble2007 idk man gta 6 so far from what I’ve heard might be trash cause of the woke shit but who knows.

[@erickbeltran7338]

Greed is the downfall of many.

[@elitef40]

You mentioning Sly Cooper really touched my heart. Can't believe it's been an entire decade, and we still have yet to hear about it at all, let alone a sequel.

[@TheTuriam]

I remember play Sly 3 and god I miss games like it. It was so fun and the challenges even tho some were really hard, it was satisfying to complete them. Plus, everyone talks how good Assassin's Creed Black Flag is with the ship stuff but people forget that Sly 3 might be one the first games to actually put that mechanic into a game and, making it fun to play. I spent so many hours just navigating with the ship, battling and getting treasures. It reached a point where I had so many coins that I didn't need already.

[@dowhatiwantc7637]

Honestly I would love another sly cooper. They also were supposed to drop a show but scrapped it. I just want any sly cooper content but they got a find a way for loot boxes and dlc or they don’t make games anymore. I miss when a game dropped finished and with all the content.

[@TheTuriam]

@@dowhatiwantc7637 Me too man, I miss when you had a full 8h+ experience with diverse content and had a blast all the way through. Sly 3 might've taken me more than 20 hours to reach almost 100%. Nowadays you'll have games that the 100% is all based on fucking collectables and the base game is finished in less than 5h.

[@dowhatiwantc7637]

@@TheTuriam facts the hours of the game weren’t just used for time but for content and replays it’s just annoying nowadays what they think replays are

[@jordancox559]

The thievius racoonus was such a fantastic game.

[@extragirth64]

What blew my mind playing San Andreas was the countryside itself. I don't think I ever played a game with small town or rural aesthetic until then. I went from thinking country music was lame to it being my favorite radio station (outside of the talk radio of course.)

[@Astra3yt]

Playing K-Rose while rolling over the countryside has amazing vibe.

[@Warriorsoul101]

Oh, I love a rainy night!

[@Aaa_Tactical]

@@Warriorsoul101 one step forward and two steps baco

[@GRUNGLEBEATS]

I remember k rose where the lady would play harmonica with her cooter

[@rlfpotatoking9253]

Driving through the desert in GTA SA with A horse with no name on the radio... ahh the memories.. I just love how much GTA SA felt like an adventure, starting from your local Los Santos hood to exploring the densely packed map with the 3 cities, the desert, the forest, the towns etc. GTA SA is a timeless masterpiece

[@DatOneCat]

That PS2 box that Muta was holding right there. That, that's the actual definitive edition. A collector bundle of all three games for the price of one. And it was released a long time ago!

[@Clos93]

Remember buying it at Walmart in like 2013 for $15... 😂

[@bretton_woods]

I do not believe we ever got that bundle here in the UK but we did get a double pack of GTA III and VC for both the PS2 and Xbox. I may be wrong, I dunno. But agreed...the original versions are the best, and need no upgrade.

[@jacknapier6668]

@@bretton_woods we got it in Ireland anyway bro surely in the uk also

[@dazitmane8905]

Technically, the box Muta is holding is not the *REAL* definitive edition. I can't speak for GTA 3, but Vice City and San Andreas had numerous re-releases on the PS2 due to controversies and expired soundtracks. For Vice City, the post Black Label copies got rid of the Haitian-Cuban profanities and Lionel Richie's Running with The Night on Flash FM was removed after the original release. San Andreas most infamously led to R* to withdraw the original PS2(and Xbox and PC) release copies because the Hot Coffee mod was contained in the games files. Some minor bugs were also fixed like Supply Lines and the OG Loc dancing mission. Some trilogy copies (of which Muta is holding) have some cut tracks because they had gotten so old to that point where R* had to patch them out but I have not verified this. TLDR : the original copies of San Andreas and Vice City with the UPC code at the back of the bottom left are the actual "definitive versions" of this game. The Greatest Hits and trilogy copies took out quite a bit of stuff.

[@Clos93]

@@dazitmane8905 This guy gets it! The OG 2002 release was the true definitive edition! Has Billy Jean playing in the beginning, and is the raw uncensored release. Found out later when I got into collecting PS2 games. I felt like Don Corleone from Godfather when he saw Sonny's body after playing the "definitive edition" *"Look how they massacred my boy.."* 😂😂😂

[@Razer5542]

The most criminal thing about the definitive edition imo is that they removed the option of being able to buy the original GTA games on steam.

[@lasthopelost9090]

The same thing on the consoles as well even if they were the mobile ports

[@Aloysius2113]

flashbacks to Blizzard disallowing you to buy the original warcrat III after they released the "reforged edition" or whatever they called their awful remakes/remasters/whatever you wanna call them

[@applehazeva2739]

@@Aloysius2113 I really hope Microsoft puts all Activision and Blizzard Games on Steam, like they do with Xbox and Bethesda

[@dbxniker7484]

@@lasthopelost9090 even the ps2 ported version on the ps4?

[@dbxniker7484]

@@lasthopelost9090 even the ps2 ported version on the ps4?

[@xXxLovelyBloodxXx]

The funniest thing still for me is that one tweet i saw about a donut shop in one of the gta games with a giant hex bolt/nut on the roof and the AI scaling just made it completely smooth and round.

[@pistachiodisguisey911]

They fixed that forever ago I think

[@GrubbyWubby]

I think people are blaming it on ai without any proof because they don't want to accept the reality that grove street games actually just didn't understand the joke

[@acake6654]

@Don't Read Profile Picture get out of here

[@psychosis1767]

@@GrubbyWubby I doubt that. You couldn't be so inane as a human.

[@GrubbyWubby]

@@psychosis1767 keep in mind that the remakes were outsourced to a studio on india

[@zCREz]

Crazy how the PS2 still feels like somewhat a "modern" console to me, remembering the mind blowing games that came with... 😩

[@NFSBeast2365]

IKR?

[@gabrielt4305]

Ps2 is definitely the most creative gaming era. With ps3 and 360 still having some gems

[@roahnosh]

I still hate how Atlus handled the port of Persona 3. They literally removed the 3D environment of the game.

[@mellorebel4097]

​@roahnosh It the damnest thing! I haven't played it cause of that. Best believe I'll be on P3R Day one on the Deck

[@BanditoDorito6969]

this reminds me how mind blowingly huge the map of San Andreas was at that time. After playing Gta 3 and Vice city SA was absolutely huge and as a kid i could literally pass hours just driving around in the NGR-500

[@LuhWhippaSnappa]

I remember playing my cousin’s copy of GTA 3 back in 2002. My mind was blown once I found out you could do more than drive around and stopping at red lights. That game holds a special place in my heart. Would’ve been crazy to see what the definitive edition could’ve been like had Rockstar put some love into it.

[@TheNewWaveTimes]

Imagine how I felt playing gta 1&2 on the dream cast and PlayStation and then playing gta 3 for the first time. I could it play it for hours bsck in the day! San Andreas was hands down the best gta ever made tho

[@weirdyoutubechannels]

check website from my banner..

[@coolerthanafrieza4726]

Or even worked on it at all instead of getting a mobile game studio( yes a mobile game studio) to remaster them….

[@theworldisimmense]

@@TheNewWaveTimes you damn right , San Andreas is the most iconic gta ever made

[@bpdmf2798]

I remember watching my buddy play and when he jumped out of the car and beat a hooker and took her cash I was like "wtf is this, I thought it was a driving game!?"

[@santiagoherrera1853]

The GTA collection is 50% on Steam, but it's mere existence should be still considered a scam when the originals are graphically and functionally better in every way but aren't on sale anymore. I wanted to try out the trilogy because I could never play the games before and I was excited when they announced a switch port, but after the game released I have to admit, I've never seen such a downgrade before in a game, it's baffling

[@gManGabe]

A commonly used tactic is to raise prices before a discount, so the reduced price tag is what they actually want to charge.

[@nightthot7809]

@D.R thanks my man !

[@revenge977]

its 50% on sale and still more expensive than rdr2

[@haloquayle]

jokes on them I bought the original trilogy on steam before the devs told steam to rip them off steam itself

[@gManGabe]

@@haloquayle yah jokes on them, you gave them money already

[@JGonzZ.]

I could watch this man rant about Rockstar all day and never get tired

[@dankonline]

Guilty pleasure, but not in a bad sorta way

[@garyfreeman896]

Stuck record or quiet week.

[@Knapperoni]

@@garyfreeman896 Why not both?

[@NFSBeast2365]

TRUE! I agree.

[@Shikujiru]

This is a small thing, but GTA San Andreas launched for $50! Same principle applies, though. I still remember how crazy playing GTA3/VC/SA felt back then. It almost felt like it couldn't get better, and I could only imagine what future games would look like.

[@Roler42]

It's kinda sad how, in retrospective, you come to realize the Houser brothers and Lazlow were the glue keeping the best of Rockstar games together, cuz the minute they all left and the lesser Houser brother was left to run the company, is when everything became a lot more half-assed and cash-grabby.

[@cowzze923]

Bro they make remasters bad but new games they are the king likr rdr 2

[@faresfares-ultra]

@@cowzze923 they left after rdr2 released.there everything went downhill

[@zeening]

@@cowzze923 you HAVE to be a troll

[@Ianxx01]

@@cowzze923 so just one game, in how many years?

[@Lancehendrix813]

@@Ianxx01 to be fair, you can’t possibly pump a game with the size and detail that RDR2 has in just 2 years That game had 5+ years development and it really shows

[@YAH2121]

"if Rockstar doesnt care about the Definitive Editions, you shouldnt either" sums it up

[@garyfreeman896]

Great comment.

[@mike1019831]

Yep this is why I'm glad my steam account has the originals plus have them on my OG Xbox. I'm content don't need the "definitive" edition.

[@justinmacias1696]

I grew up with my grandmother and money was always tight. Got a ps2 from a friend of hers who’s son went into the military and I always picked up pre owned games anytime I was able to save 20-30 bucks and one day we were in Walmart 2014 and I found this sealed with the three games I never opened them because they all contained maps and I wanted to frame them in my man cave once I get my place situated but this was my first brand new ps2 game lol

[@FTKSoky]

Awesome bruh

[@JeandrePetzer]

Did you end up framing them?

[@justinmacias1696]

@@JeandrePetzer not yet have it put away getting my own place soon

[@dankonline]

@Justin Macias props to you man, and make sure to pick up a copy of persona if you can!

[@NiXx2863]

Yo is that man dead?

[@cleverchimp499]

I feel like when I was younger gaming companies where pushing the boundaries of gaming striving to be the best. But now it's more about what they can get away with to make the most profite.

[@LeiSnows]

Everything is like that now I feel. More companies worship at the altar of the almighty dollar now, and don't realize they are only profitable because of loyal fan bases, built in a time when creative freedom was in the company. But as years drag on and the creative freedom goes away, the fans will go. One can hope... stop giving these greedy people money. Sail the high seas.

[@PristianoPenaldoSUIIII]

@Seize Fate it's always been like that to an extent but the bigger a company gets, the more like that they become. The other thing is that over the last 40 years or so companies have become much more obsessed over short term profits and shareholders than anything else, including long term stability even. We can thank Reagan and Thatcher for that

[@poppythedogofwonders]

Game companies are still doing that, it's just a few of the major ones who are pulling this shit. Since they're so big it can feel like they represent the whole but they don't. Inde devs and smaller companies are very much there making quality games, even some of the biggest ones are doing it, Nintendo for example, their recent Pokemon game really upped and improved the story, Violet and Scarlet has the second best story in the entire franchise and that was released last November. Point is, no, gaming companies aren't all like Rockstar.

[@bretton_woods]

@@weirdyoutubechannels stop spamming every comment

[@bretton_woods]

@@PristianoPenaldoSUIIII yes... gaming went from a hobby made by nerds for other nerds (and kids i guess) to being made by corporate suits... it went the way of every other form of entertainment. When there is money to be had, quality is the first thing that goes out of the window. Thatcher absolutely destroyed our country with this policy...

[@DawnOfTheOzz]

This is why I intend to hold on to my original PS2 copies of the GTA series for as long as it takes.

[@krusher181]

IM A GOBLIN AND IM COMING FOR EM

[@jarnobot]

Do youself a favor and hack your PS2. Make copies of your games and if you have a fat PS2, install a modern harfdrive with a sata adapter. Disc rot is a thing and WILL destroy all your games eventually.

[@redtsun67]

That traffic pop-in is the reason to this day that I hate driving motorcycles in video games. So many times as a kid, running into the backs of cars on my bike and getting fucking launched 100 feet.

[@Mazaroth]

I think the name of their company is really evocative of actual rockstars, they start out with love and passion for their art but eventually the money just fucks them over completely and they start to become cynical, jaded and not giving a fuck about the art, because it's all about the money anymore.

[@gucciadjective7745]

You just blew my mind bro

[@shizzledink]

RDR2 was their last game that wasnt a rerelease and that game was made with so much "passion for their art". Rockstar has always liked money. A cheap cashgrab doesn't mean that they aren't still gonna release absolute bangers when it comes to a fresh triple a release

[@NFSBeast2365]

Mind blown 🤯

[@TeodorLojewski]

Holy shit

[@flyinonmars]

it really is baffling how these companies go OUT OF THEIR WAY to piss off as many people as possible. just goes to show that money is the root of all evil

[@Brave_New_Tube]

@@angelo08280 ​ Not necessarily money itself is the root, but the *love* of money absolutely is the root of all evil.

[@martydg1509]

@@Brave_New_Tubeexactly. This is often misquoted.

[@MrGTAmodsgerman]

Personality disorders are the root of all evil. Narcissistic personalities get jobs in such high position because they are the only one who can take very cold actions/decisions for the money. Money is a tool. You can do good or bad with it. What matters is the person behind that money.

[@dragoncpu2226]

just wish people would stand together and say no. Because in reality if everyone did that then these evil corporations wouldnt be able to do anything but fall to our demands.

[@ScatWiIIiams]

The *love of money is the root of all evil. People always misquote this.

[@Cartzy]

In a much broader sense, I feel like this is the price we pay for videogames becoming more mainstream; we get bigger higher budget games, but the majority of people who play video games aren't heavily invested in the gaming sphere; they're simply incapable of recognising poor quality products, or seeing when they being manipulated / taken advantage of, and companies like Take2 have no problems taking advantage of that to full effect.

[@colonian83]

Yep, that's pretty much the way it is. I've just taken to playing older games, those don't have the garbage we see nowadays

[@NealCamerlengo]

Nah, this has been going on for a long time, so it has nothing to do with it becoming more mainstream. The problem is that people refuse to hold people regardless of whether they're triple A or independent accountable and responsible.

[@CoOlKyUbI96]

I think it’s a bit of many things. Yes a majority of people who game probably aren’t invested in gaming news. But also because some people just get way too attached to defending companies

[@BullFrogFace]

Its what happens when publishers control how and what games are made instead of the devs

[@ninochaosdrache3189]

At the same time, we don't punish developers and publishers hard enough for fucking up. When something like the Definitve Edition or BF2042 happens, we should do the same thing as French protestors do and light those companies' asses on fire. But instead, we've White Knights in our ranks, who defend the big corporations.

[@killergrooves2438]

I was in 10th grade when GTA 3 released. I rented it at Blockbuster one weekend on a whim. It blew me away. I had been playing games for over 10 years at that point and there was nothing like that I’d ever played before. It just felt revolutionary. It’s probably the last time I played a game that felt truly revolutionary and not just unique or an improvement on an existing genre. I don’t think it’s possible to have that feeling again and I don’t think it’s possible to feel it unless you were around during a time before GTA 3 existed. Anyway, GTA 3 was such a massive deal when it came out. It was a bigger deal than GTA 5. It was a bigger deal than Red Dead Redemption 2. It was a bigger deal than Breath of the Wild. It will have been a bigger deal than GTA 6. It was industry changing and had an impact on video games forever. Which is funny because if you came to play it late, it was just the lesser of the 3 PS2/Xbox1 GTA titles and is nobody’s favorite of the bunch.

[@Shay416]

I didn't even realize it's called GTA3. It's called San Andreas LOL

[@chillvibed]

I remember that feeling too. It blew people's minds. Games will never do that again.

[@jaimeabadrodriguez1428]

True words, my friend. Been there, done that.

[@shizzledink]

@@Shay416 gta 3 is a separate game from san andreas

[@NFSBeast2365]

I wish I could experience GTA 3/ VC/ SA when they came out. They are pretty legendary.

[@PapaJoe24]

When Muta said "sly cooper" it made my day, my actual childhood

[@REPTAR.]

I remember going on road trips in GTA San Andreas with my brother driving across the map to the desert just felt magical back then

[@leopoldleiva5027]

Don’t forget the casinos

[@POTTERANDMATRIXFAN]

And to think that 2023 is the 10 year anniversary for GTA V...

[@garyfreeman896]

Do you still play?

[@garyfreeman896]

@MyLazySundae Why is that and what's it got to do with GTAV being 10 years old?

[@spitfire3311]

@@garyfreeman896 It’s very unusual for a game to be released on three different generations of consoles. PS3, PS4, PS5. They’re milking the fuck out of their game in a way that is becoming more well known to the gaming scene. They also abandoned free story updates for pay to win online updates and some other shitty practices.

[@whiterunguard9978]

​@@spitfire3311 They "milk" it because people are playing it and it's normal for a game to have mtx when it gets free updates for 10 years.

[@garyfreeman896]

@@spitfire3311 Personally I don't I feel they are milking anything. As a consumer I have free choice to buy and use any product I wish. And in the case of GTAV online I paid £35 9 years ago and still receive regular updates for free. This game has given me exceptional value for money and still gives me an excellent experience all these years later. In fact I can't think of another entertainment product that has given me continuous updates and thousands of hours of entertainment all for £35. I guess I'm just a glass half full kinda person.

[@faresmanai2434]

in Tunisia, the equivalent of an arcade store was a bunch of TVs and PS2s with GTA and PES. they were a part of our childhood

[@bayremelbach6571]

Ya 7asra

[@moonlight5985]

muta mentioning sly cooper made my entire week. i miss the series so much, breaks my heart they haven't done anything with it all this time. i know me and many other people would love to see sly 5

[@MAH-ZEE]

I've had a PS2 most of my life and loved having one. It had a bunch of masterpieces on it and those should never be forgotten.

[@random-user3682]

Same here

[@Just_a_commenter]

The Definitive Edition could have been a real treat if proper resources and time was allocated to it, but go figure, Rockstar has to go out and cement why publishers are justifiably hated.

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

They should've done it in house on the rage engine. Imagine how good those games could of been. Yes it would've taken a lot longer but the final result would be something people love

[@sharad6697]

Seemed like they got greedier immediately after 2018. I really hope they can make a future project with love and care like they did with RDR2. Cause right after that seemed to be the point where they doubled down on in-game transactions and subtly shut down RDR2 Online servers. The fact that there was no responsibility taken for any of their greed or scams just pisses me off.

[@SolidSnake240]

The fact that people to this day still defend these games is wild

[@robertnapier624]

Things have never been the same at rockstar since Dan Houser left. And Lazlow.

[@SeanSMST]

Thanks for remembering Lazlow, favourite dj from the 3d trilogy.

[@dragonslayer9671]

Yep and the 6th is gonna be woke

[@riven4121]

And Dan was Rockstar's head writer and wrote and/or co-produced all of Rockstar's best selling games. I actually fear for VI's script.

[@DeezN00tz99]

@@dragonslayer9671 woke how?

[@digitalhub492]

@@DeezN00tz99he means because the main protagonist might be a female it’s “woke” we gotta dumb fuck on our hands lmao.

[@KizzMyAbs]

Man I love the ps1 and 2 so much. Every game just felt like an experience to remember

[@Greengoblin420-69]

I think this is why sony doesnt do backwards compatibility like microsoft. Their old games would blow the new ones out of the water.

[@arthurgamerpro6585]

true, sony is afraid that old games sell more than new sony games.

[@dr_feelgood1902]

@@Greengoblin420-69 ​ @arthurgamerpro What? Sony has a bunch of PS1 & 2 games on their PS Plus service and MS needed backwards compatibility because Xbox has no games lmao.

[@Greengoblin420-69]

@@dr_feelgood1902 Anything Ive seen for 1 and or 2 is all streaming which is dog shit.

[@tdestroyer4780]

It isn't nostalgia either. Games were just made better with more love.

[@Madmetalmaniac42069]

This video in particular brings out that sad nostalgia for the og 3D releases. I remember being on summer vacation in about 2007 or so, I was working on beating SA for the very first time. I got stuck on two of the Zero missions for a looooong minute and getting by that made me feel a sense of accomplishment I had never gotten from another game.

[@eSandy_]

I'm glad you are standing up for gaming. Thank you.

[@ZaWrldo]

Indie game studios put so much love and care into their games that's why I love to play them

[@housemouseshorts]

Indie game stuidos are not perfect. Indie games are the realm of the scammers as well. Even worse polotical exstremists. Indie devs have been proven to be even more prone to scaming people. They just get away with it becouse dick riders like you kiss the ground they walk on.

[@UmiZoomR]

Yeah indie devs are so original and inique 😍. I cant wait to play another Doom shooter or cyberpunk/bladerunner aesthetic that has more pixels then japanese porno. Gaming his truly peaked thanks to indie devs ✌✌✌

[@tonkatruckgaming5724]

@@UmiZoomR fr bro! i also love playing the depression-based pixel art platformers, im rlly flabbergasted by all that hard work put into them!! 🔥🔥

[@dan_loeb]

not all indie devs are a shining beacon, a few are, but there's at least equal if not far larger numbers of indie devs who push multiple asset flips each year onto steam/eshop/etc.

[@NeoFromXbox]

@@UmiZoomR I dont agree with you but you gave me a laugh

[@dcresistance]

The updated Ark port for the Switch compared to GTA Definitive Edition is the perfect example of why publishers and devs should give studios the proper time, assets, and source code to make their ports. Grove Street's work on that Ark port is nothing short of miraculous

[@cementbox4430]

They had how long?

[@billyhatcher643]

i despise how they censored the game it pisses me off rockstar needs to go under at some point im so sick of them doing this shit

[@your_uncle_barry_6700]

So happy I grew up during the golden age of gaming. When devs put love into a game, these days it just comes across as if they are trying to seperate you from your money with as little effort as possible. And the process of retro games these days, don't get me started. Having a proper grandpa moment here

[@andreapaps]

"imagine if Konami rereleased Metal Gear Solid..." Mutahar could forsee the bullshit that is the master collection.

[@millenniumvintage9726]

Speaking of Sly Cooper we need Sony to revive that series ASAP. Even another collection for ps4

[@brew8053]

The mention of Sly Cooper unlocked some long sealed away memories. Geez I'd like to see that series remade

[@Lucios1995]

He even mentioned it first

[@krockettz3231]

I love sky cooper but I’m tired of these remakes, we barely even get new IP’s anymore it’s always remakes or remasters. Even when it’s a new IP they just reuse the same ideas, like Calisto

[@jamiehughes5573]

@@krockettz3231 calisto protocol was very bad, generic ancient virus that a shady organisation tried to use to make enhanced humans etc

[@Optuhmist]

I remember ~10 years ago there was a trailer for a Sly Cooper movie that never went anywhere. I really wanted to see that get made.. It looked incredible.

[@turbo6780]

I sense that a situation similar to the video game crash of 1983 is on it’s way if AAA companies continue doing this.

[@BardiXOfficial]

I hope it happens again

[@TheDavidish]

It’ll never ever hit that point again. That was when the industry was infant and unknown

[@bobafett4265]

Not really a game crash but I could see some companies cease to exist in the near future like possibly Ubisoft or Square Enix and maybe even in this case Rockstar Games or at least be affected by their own incompetence leading to company lay offs and such, seriously I wouldn't be shocked if Rockstar Games hits an all-time low for themselves the way their behavior has been as of late that some sales end up being disappointing for them and or having a really bad launch period on a bigger scale than GTA Definitive Edition, like imagine GTA 6 comes out and ends up in a laughing stock state that rivals that of Launch Cyberpunk 2077.

[@thedrbat9572]

1983????? You realize just how early that was in the gaming industry? That is never going to happen

[@DMCdantenero112]

I doubt it will happen, back then, people didn't have access to so many indie games. What will happen most likely is that a lot of AAA studios will start losing money but great indie studios will be more successful than ever.

[@pikachuiguana]

You know it’s bad when an Electronic Arts game has more heart put into it than yours

[@x7bsytchannel]

It's very sad and infuriating to see those games in that state, they're my childhood and Rockstar can't even make an acceptable remaster...

[@ilikecinema1234]

Don't buy anything they release then. That's the only way to actually get something done I don't understand why people are so unintelligent as of now

[@user-ly3ez5ws3u]

I'm 35 and the original 3 open world for ps2 were revolutionary for their time you will never understand if you didn't live thru it

[@HydraSpectre1138]

I bought the old PC versions on Steam before they were delisted. I am glad I have them. And the Definitive Edition Project mods (not to be confused with the official Definitive Edition) make them amazing. I had a PS2 with LEGO Star Wars II, but it was borrowed from my uncle. I was mostly a PC gamer. I did get a PS3 in 2019, and I loved playing PS2 remasters more than PS3 games most of the time.

[@goncaloaugusto2807]

I only had GTA: SA and GTA: VC on Steam and I don't fucking why I didn't bought GTA III. So after a while I decided to buy GTA III via Key sites and it was worth it tbh. And I pretend very very soon buy GTA IV and it's DLC's because I have a sense that Rockstar will delist the game soon, so yeh Side note: The Key site I bought from was Eneba btw

[@Cold_Cactus]

Same i got the OT and 4 on steam about 2 years ago super glad I did

[@gremblorthesackgoblin7953]

I'm still beating myself up for not buying them while I could.

[@imulan]

About the DEP mods, GTA 4's got DMCA'd. Got a feeling that a GTA 4 "remaster" is next on their list.

[@jessehenderson2967]

Steam GTA collection. Think it dropped to like, 4 bucks for every GTA. Couldn't not do it, glad I did.

[@Dark_BunnyXx]

Fun fact: The Xbox 360 version of San Andreas was also the mobile version ported onto the system and called a “remaster”. you can even see the mobile control icons with a secret cheat

[@AeonPhoenix]

And that port is pretty much laughable because Rockstar rushed the studios into releasing an unfinished mess of GTA SA.

[@Manic_Panic]

You can play the classic Xbox ports of the trilogy on the 360. Just go offline when launching San Andreas so it doesn't download the "remaster". Vice City and 3 have some minor issues but also minor improvements over the PS2 version and SA is just missing the orange sky effect. I would say it's the 2nd best way to play the trilogy. It even has the little co-op minigame just like on PS2 :)

[@GamingHarryYT]

I still haven’t forgiven Rockstar Games for giving the remasters to a mobile developer. Grove Street Games butchered ‘em

[@xJDMWaRRi0Rx]

I was in highschool when the the official app/phone port was release by this company. It was awesome to play… for 5 minutes after eating lunch in school. It was amazing for a phone game don’t get me wrong. But the fact that they took what we all saw as a novelty gimmick and literally taking that and selling it as a console/pc game is just insane.

[@leonkenedy4616]

Totally agreed with you that in part the actual state of the video game industry today is a mess because the very same same gamers, those who patronize the scummy and shady behavior of those big devs and publishers.

[@housemouseshorts]

indie games are not your saver indies are also scammers. they just get away with it becouse you kiss their ass

[@MrWaifuTaker]

Seeing Muta with The Trilogy on PS2 makes me happy that I bagged The Trilogy on Xbox original to play on my Xbox 360 around the defective edition's disaster.

[@keeysOST]

I always smile when Muta mentions JRPGs

[@possessedslig]

I remember playing the demo for GTA 1, back then games were passion projects. I miss those days.

[@chriscarey5728]

I for one am very glad you're shining a spotlight on this. dont ever forget when these game companies mistreat us & try take us for a ride. rockstar is dead to me.

[@Lancehendrix813]

That’s harsh. Sure they’re getting greedy but as long Rockstar themselves keep releasing overall bangers regardless of how much or how little attention they give to it afterwards, I think it’s enough for all of us to still give them the appreciation that’s due. Especially when it’s probably not even rockstar’s decision for all the shit they’re adding to stuff like GTA V. I’ve heard that’s why Dan Houser left. Because of T2 (their parent company) being greedy and making dumb decisions.

[@chriscarey5728]

@LouBriccant69 dude after the shit they pulled with the GTA trilogy, it's probably not harsh enough. Companies don't get a free pass for bullshit just because you like their games.

[@alanfike]

I wasn't a kid when GTA 3 came out, agree with you completely about this and am glad that you're addressing this still. Rockstar really screwed up here.

[@plasmicats2000]

I remember the ps2 port of ghostbusters being actually somewhat good, they took hella creative liberties with it to make up for some of the technological limitations that made them remove a lot of environment destruction compared to the ps3 version.

[@CMan-x7k]

I imagine it was better than the wii version.

[@theobserver4214]

@@CMan-x7k it was worse.

[@CMan-x7k]

@@theobserver4214 In what regard?

[@SiriusCygnus]

Whats even worse is that if you have a jailbroken ps4 you could take an original iso and convert it to a pkg file that works on the ps4 perfectly. So essentially rockstar could have re-released the original they just chose not to.

[@Kasaix]

I still remember that back in 2015, Take2 sent private investigators to a modder's house and handed him a phone to intimidate him into stopping his mod work.

[@Stats2BackIt]

Got a PS2 when I was 7 in 2004....nothing will ever beat the feeling of opening that thing up on Christmas....feels like a whole life ago already.....

[@JayTheXXVII]

You unlocked a core memory the instant you said Sly Cooper

[@zlau6132]

the infinite ocean flying thing was patched because in the original versions of the game, if you flew too far, it would start corrupting the gang zone data.

[@SilVaFx]

I remember playing GTA III on my cousin's PS2 and I got home to play Liberty City Stories on ny PSP. Great memories!

[@therealskiiizo]

Soon as he mentioned Sly Cooper all the nostalgia of me and my friends playing that game sleeping over each others house came rushing back

[@Hulkerine100]

Lol, as soon as he mentioned some GTA fans being born around the PS3 era I immediately felt old 😂 I grew up playing the GTA games with the rooftop view and 2D graphics (GTA1) 😭

[@jamestabbron8124]

First game I ever remember playing. Till the connection in the back of my box TV had come loose, and I couldn't figure out what to do, so my mum smacked the top of the TV and it went black, didn't seem to get any better....

[@Humongous420]

I was just playing the original GTA3 tonight on my PS2 I found in a dumpster. Still a GREAT game

[@TheMegaForce69]

Is it the real og version whit catalina's extra voice line in the exchange mission + many more things thought 😉 those are the most sought after og versions on any gta games on ps2 because that version is the rarest one compared to Vice City, San Andreas or VCS, LCS im glad i have them all!❤️

[@0DRONZER]

dude i'm not even old yet growing up with the ps2 makes me feel old it feels weird

[@btr3k]

"They don't know what it's like to grow up with Sly Cooper, Grand Theft Auto, Metal Gear..." Me watching, who grew up with Combat, Air-Sea Battle, and Maze Craze...

[@xNeo64]

atari 2600 chad

[@randysamady]

ok

[@kevink1575]

Yes? You watching, and what? These comment memes are actually supposed to have a punchline.

[@TheBreakingBenny]

I grew up with DOS, and some Carmageddon and a Megadrive emulator for various Sega games. I even had Freddi Fish by my side.

[@RobsRemixes]

I still don’t understand why Rockstar palmed off their main cash cow game to an outside studio, worst decision ever. Also why didn’t they release each game individually on their 20th anniversary and then release GTA 6 in 2025 one year after San Andreas remastered dropped. This keeps people playing GTA from 2021 to 2025 and stops all the memes about being dead by the time they release another game while also allowing Rockstar more time between games to make sure any bugs/glitches/issues are fully fixed. They had an amazing opportunity with these definitive editions, and they blew it so badly.

[@kingmarcusrich]

Not even two minutes in and I can’t agree with you more!!! Subscribed 🤣✊🏾

[@deathsyth8888]

Maybe the real scam was all the various GTA re-releases we've purchased along the way. _SKYRIM_ has entered the chat.

[@Sad_Elf]

And the last of us followed in close behind

[@Willis2992]

Skyrim, was a product as advertised that people chose to buy. You don't need to buy the re releases yet people did. You cannot compare the disaster of the GTA remasters with Skyrim

[@garyfreeman896]

Don't buy them, simple.

[@GamingAnimator1]

Gotten better? Nah. Character models still look like shit, half the music is still missing, and the violence is still censored. So no, it still sucks. Stick with the originals.

[@HaveanOreshnik]

Yep, the original never can get beaten

[@diegolink42]

Honestly I'm a bit scared for the future of Rockstar and the next GTA, knowing that all the creative master minds behind these games have left the company..🙄

[@TheRealEclipse1]

This is one of the reasons I do what I call as a "Demo Piracy". Pirate a game to see if it's worth it, then make your purchase based on your experience and ect.

[@Greengoblin420-69]

in this day and age all games should have a free trial.....

[@TheRealEclipse1]

@@Greengoblin420-69 it's funny how now that we really need them, they're almost extinct lol

[@Greengoblin420-69]

@@TheRealEclipse1 EXACTLY.... Growing up you couldnt eat a box of cereal that didnt have trial disc of some sort in it... Id always go to the magazine section in the store and rip out the discs.... lol opppppssssss

[@TheRealEclipse1]

@Pain that is really true.

[@LegalizeTheNuclearBomb]

@Pain You don't actually own any of the games you buy on Steam anyway. You're essentially paying to borrow the game and should Valve decide to take the game down or remove it from your library, they can.

[@9doublem28]

You are 100% right man.. it's just sad that the companies can do everything with their players and they are so stupid and support them further and further.. i really miss the ps2 era man..but i think that the problem is much bigger than gaming.. time is so different now

[@kevinblack8584]

That sly cooper mention hit me in the heart 💔

[@chronomoss]

I bought Persona 4 Golden for $20 on the day it came out. It was a great deal for an amazing game that I had never had the chance to play. Then, Atlas realized that people liked these games and every remaster since has cost too much for me lol

[@Lanoman123]

Literally what are you talking about? What other remasters?

[@XxBeamerr]

Sly cooper was easily one one my fav games growing up.. pick pocketing was too satisfying 😂 games will never be produced like those again

[@XxBeamerr]

I’m glad I can say I grew up in those times of gaming, these kids don’t know anything other than cod and fortnite nowadays

[@prarambh1589]

With that's damnn ending

[@tartas1995]

Personally i was more ratchet and clank but sly was so much fun too. The mission in which you need to follow the lizard is burned into my head. The hatred that i felt.

[@XxBeamerr]

@@tartas1995 I was also gonna say rachet and clank as #2 but I seen that they do still make those games.. prob not anything like the older ones but I’ll give them that

[@bradleysmith9352]

The whole buggy mess and the studio name “Grove-Street games” sounds like something Eleven year old me and a group of friends from School, would’ve came up with if our teacher assigned us to make a video game.

[@familyman1410]

I’m 42 this year so I can absolutely relate to this intro!! Nailed it bro

[@jaym3552]

17:40 yep your right Muta.... the indie companies are the ones taking the ISO files of these titles (and many others please let us not forget their are far more examples of this) and making them properly function in some cases enhancing them and adding new content. Why can't Rockstar be bothered to spend peanuts to make it happen? The world may never know.....

[@draculatheundead1479]

I am not supporting piracy but if u want to play gta trilogy og version which is not available on steam or anywhere...Just pirate it....that definitive edition doesn't deserve money at all.

[@ckopen7192]

14:51 im not even kidding, i had steam bug out and show me that second image as an achievement for halo MCC. the achievement was "i got this" and i still have no idea why its like that

[@ckopen7192]

ok, just checked, not the same image, the car in it is red, but its the same car and certainly not a scene from halo.

[@TheTuriam]

I remember talking with my older brother a year or 2 ago about how in the last 5 years there were so few games that I actually wanted to buy and play. And even today I still play older games than I play newer games. Here are some for example: - Hype The Time Quest (an old Playmobil game that is really good) - Half-Life 1 - SCP: Containment Breach - Mount & Blade Classic - Minecraft (version 1.7.10 at max) - The Binding of Isaac Rebirth (it's going to do 10 years this year if I'm correct) - Watch Dogs 1 And for games from the last 5 years that I would like to play: - Doom 2016 - Doom Eternal - Half-Life Alyx - Soulsborn Saga - Mount & Blade Bannerlord And that's it, there's not much more games that I actually want to play, because to be honest, those are the ones that I think were done with some love. The rest are either games done just for a quick buck or games that I feel are just done to be done. But it's my opinion.

[@zhon5311]

Literally just bought GTA 3 from CDkeys for 4 dollars to complete my steam collection. Had Vice City and San Andreas but forgot to get GTA 3 before they pulled it. I have my definitive modding edition!

[@WillOfXiaZynexia]

THANK YOU MUTA FOR RAISING AWARENES TO COMPLANCY FOR QUALITY IN THE GAMING COMMUNITY

[@Lettusfarm]

Sadly these people don't care about making the players happy anymore. It's all about the numbers and share holders happiness.

[@topspot4834]

Crazy to think that GTA 4 & 5, the original Red Dead (plus Undead Nightmares), LA Noire and Max Payne 3 all came out within only 6 years of each other. And that was just one publisher. Modern Warfare, Portal 2, Last of Us, Skyrim, Bioshock, Dark Souls, Arkham Asylum, Mass Effect 2 and I'm sure a bunch of others i can't think of.

[@Totavier]

17:04 In my case I still remember playing Vice City for the first time and when I entered a vehicle I was cruising around listening a Michael Jackson's song on Flash FM. Too BAD that I can't do that in the Defective Edition, lol!.

[@K9riya]

Right when he mentioned his car flipping over in the photography mission, my nostalgia boner exploaded

[@BigBossultrastealth]

You chummed???

[@Greengoblin420-69]

@@BigBossultrastealth WE GOT A COOMER

[@Saint_Dan132]

i was born in 89 and loved the ps2 what a generation t live in.

[@Shay416]

Honestly, we got it good (for tech and video games)

[@Cervidae]

"just like they don't care about red dead online." *_p a i n_*

[@garyfreeman896]

Red Dead sucks. Let it die.

[@TheObsoletist33]

So glad they got rid of the "toxic culture" at Rockstar. And the quality of everything, and its business practicies have subsiquently plummeted. It's ALMOST as if you could completely predict this.

[@mattymerr701]

It is "couldn't care less". "Could care less" states that they care at least some amount

[@midimusicforever]

it's a shame how they treat a classic like this

[@jarodk1294]

Wow, I can’t agree more with that ending! Unfortunately many gamers will settle for mediocrity as acceptable standard and many games nowadays are made as mere product to sell, without much passion put into it.

[@hemangchauhan2864]

Gamers not raising their voice is what is making the industry bad.

[@_G_360]

Here we do shots everytime Muta says "At the end of the day..." making this video one of the best ones lately. 😛 Cheers

[@DarrylDeSantaTTV]

I drink a bottle every time he starts a video in Indian

[@breddie_is_rookie]

@@DarrylDeSantaTTV Certified habibi moment

[@BlindMango]

They pushed out 2 updates for definitive edition a year ago and then abandoned it, there’s still so many bugs and issues. All of the roads in GTA 3 still look like Simpsons: Hit & Run!

[@dmv99]

I THANK GOD I bought the original 3 for $5 each on a steam sale like a week before the definitive edition was announced and the originals were delisted.