Rockstar vs. GTA Voice Actors: The Problems Over Pay, Lack of Royalties, or Other Issues?

[@NeighborSenpai]

I still remember the actor who played Claude, such an amazing actor and a wonderful work

[@CLK944]

He said some great stuff in gta 3. I can't forget the time he said "...", this moment hit me deep.

[@arushamm]

Even though i started with GTA SA instead of gta 3,some of his lines are so deep

[@x-kid1848]

Yeah... The best voice actor indeed

[@ivanyi9561]

Also huang lee

[@Redacted_2061]

Voice of an angel i agree

[@Panzer_Runner]

Shawn Fonteno : Stop talking about GTA 6, we know nothing The whole live chat : *_GTA 6 when?_*

[@FloppyFiona]

Shawn Fonteno: Just give my cousin some space. The whole live chat: Either "All you had to do was follow the damn train, CJ." or "Damn, Maylay is a bitch."

[@syntax2004]

The whole live chat: 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷 love from India ♥️

[@Panzer_Runner]

The whole live chat is a busta

[@zakenmaru8612]

MrBossFTW: GTA VI CONFIRMED BY SHAWN FONTENO, NEW LEAKS?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[@scape8yearsago487]

@@alexandergrabarek why am i reading that in ryders voice?

[@bigroaststyrone8135]

I do kinda feel bad for young maylay coz he’s out there trynna do his own thing and ppl only care to ask him about gta and cj, must be frustrating asf

[@TheJoker12323]

just like steven ogg

[@bocodamondo]

the first time i found out about CJ's voice actor being a rapper, i immediatly thought about how alot of the people following him are only interested in GTA and dont really care about his rapping career, espacially with the fact that he got paid waay to little if you compare it to how big the game has become, if that happened to me, i would have broke and started going off at those fans alooot earlier than he did

[@Keithjustkeithwastaken]

or how about instead play to them so you could actually make money instead of losing out

[@Pepe-ts9ec]

Getting pissed at his fans for not liking a certain type of music? Yeah that would not be good PR. It’s a good thing you aren’t in a position like him.

[@bocodamondo]

@@Pepe-ts9ec i dont think he ever exploded like this on GTA fans before, so its safe to assume he did kept ignoring all those SA reference for a very long time, until recently where he might just saw the billionth "all you had to do is follow the damn train" joke directed at him worst time and it finally made him snap,

[@Pepe-ts9ec]

bocodamondo lmao i know i would not have lasted this long, thats for sure. Hell im tired of it and im not even him!

[@L1am21]

@@bocodamondo I think he popped off cause they put GTA sa on mobile and he dont get royalties despite GTA sa being sold on a new format yet again.

[@HiroGamerXJ]

People are annoying. Most of the harassing people aren’t rockstar games fans. They just want another GTA games...poor maylay.

[@chillcult1613]

i thing we really need to wait very long cuz rdr2 just finished so maybe they take a break for a while

[@Frost-bs6xr]

HiroX maylay fucked up. He insulted his fans and acted like an angry little kid

[@chillcult1613]

@@Frost-bs6xr who is Mayla

[@zayvianmcgee9045]

@@chillcult1613 he's the voice behind CJ

[@chillcult1613]

@@zayvianmcgee9045 he that he is fuck up what happened

[@TheOneTrueLeo2002]

This is so sad to hear. He helped build my childhood with Vice City. R.I.P. Mr Liotta, we’ll never forget you.

[@jytvreal]

he should of got paid more i agree with him

[@CWG8926]

He even played the character Billy Handsome in Mob of the Dead on Call Of Duty: Black Ops 2. Rest in peace man.

[@kimberlys8422]

I agree; I was 12 when VC was released and had a slight crush on Tommy Vercetti because Ray Liotta did a great job. He was a great dramatic actor in Goodfellas and comedic actor in Heartbreakers. RIP.

[@CWG8926]

@@kimberlys8422 I was not even 1 year old when Vice City came out. yeah i was born in the 2002 year lol. but i played this game like it was no tomorrow when i was 7 and loved the acting Ray did for Tommy.

[@kimberlys8422]

@@CWG8926 In a way I miss the old days where the voice actor was separate from the character in video games; in all honesty I didn't know who Ray Liotta was until VC and I was thinking, this guy has an attractive voice and I want to know his character's story.

[@nobody-tj1mv]

The GTA III main character voice actor wasn't EVEN PAID! You don't see him complaining on Instagram.

[@androo1461]

Im waiting for someone to be woooshed.

[@python86ourside9]

Hell yeah he not even in the game credits but he never complain about.

[@Dank_Dank]

@@androo1461 Reddit= Cringe

[@demoleramera]

I'd like to imagine R* hiring a voice actor and the small grunts and "oh's" Claude makes when injured is actually the guy's reaction from seeing his paycheck

[@demoleramera]

@kendra jordan Yeah probably, my comment was intended as a joke :)

[@nubbyknob]

A couple years ago I met Joe Pantoliano and asked him about GTA 3. He was like "oh the videogame with Ray Liotta?" And I'm like "well....yeah, Ray was in the sequel." And he says "no I was in the studio with him" and Eventually I figured out he was talking about the Mob of the Dead maps for Call of Duty. I said "No non GTA 3 in 2001by Rockstar north... based in NYC?" Then he said something like "oh jeez I don't really remember. That was like an hour of work in a recording studio almost 20 years ago"

[@Jarzyn44]

This is actually funny af xD

[@xgtwb6473]

Ahahaha of course he couldn't give a crap 😂

[@nubbyknob]

And afterwards someone behind me said "how come no one asks me to be in video games?" And I turned around and it was David Arquette. That was weird 🤣

[@uncommonsaucers2355]

@@nubbyknob Dude just entered a real life GTA cutscene by accident

[@tyronecriss23]

People have this expectation we’re in the studio doing lines day after day. It’s like one day then maybe brings us back for another if need re takes. How the fuck he supposed to remember, especially if you’re in character I don’t remember half that shit I say.

[@offspringfan89]

Not saying Ray Liotta wasn't hard to work with, but if Rockstar staff was such a fan of him, they should have caught the Goodfellas reference that he pulled on them. edit: RIP Ray Liotta :(

[@Roadkill-Films]

Exactly

[@thecanadianborderguard5215]

Oh please. If Ray Liotta pulled that on you in person, you would have shit your pants like a little bitch, too.

[@Neogears1312]

@@thecanadianborderguard5215 I mean people laugh when trevors actor gets in there face and threatens to kill them because that’s his characters most famous thing.

[@IcyWraith]

I thought the same thing, Liotta was mad from that point on huh?

[@navieats3955]

They lied bro so they wouldnt pay them.

[@Rude_Boi]

Dan Houser: Ray, like your movies. You're a funny guy. Ray Liotta: Funny how ? Like a clown ? Do I amuse you ?

[@olliegoria]

Wouldn’t be surprised if that’s actually what was said

[@athish-REAL]

Wait Is That A Oversimplified Reference 🙄

[@vCrimsoNHD]

Considering that’s Joe Pesci’s line....

[@Lagmaster33]

@@vCrimsoNHD close enough...

[@jonelalexiscaroc7495]

Those rockstar guys are bunch of pussies and phonies, they said they're fans of his movies but when they get that bit, they just said that it wasnt nice that it scared them. cmon, those nerds cant even comprehend how to socialize with that bit with him, didnt even knew it was from his character that was in a movie they said they were a FAN of.

[@olliegoria]

They hated Burt Reynolds so much they reincarnated his character into GTA Online to have him killed again

[@olliegoria]

@Your Dad Avery Duggan

[@BarrickMacready]

Kek

[@TheDarkWyvrenKingishere]

Lmfao, nice.

[@CJM333]

damn they really know how to hood a grudge lol

[@killerratchet1973]

@@olliegoria Would also explain why rockstar had Avery's fate the way they did in Liberty City Stories. SPOILERS: Toni kills him and Donald Love eats his corpse.

[@AzelfandQuilava]

I've heard that Niko was originally considered as a Heist crew member for GTA V. So that *might* be what Laslow was referring to when he said they were still working with Holland, depending on the time of the video anyway.

[@AzelfandQuilava]

@@chrisspeed270 All his dialogue there is reused from the base game tho?

[@AzelfandQuilava]

@@chrisspeed270 Are you referring to the "Hey man" line he says in the Playboy mission? Cuz I think that's actually a trimmed version of a line from the base game for when you call someone. That said, I'm not playing through the entirety of either the base game or TLAD just to dispute this so I'll just concede on this.

[@NFSBeast2365]

Bullshit.

[@SherrifOfNottingham]

There's a line that actually references this but Lester says "nah, but he went quiet" which has historically been the kind of phrasing they use to denote voice actors not returning.

[@Louis.7493]

lester did have a line about how he did a few jobs and then dismissed the idea because "he went quiet" makes total sense..

[@TheMobJob]

Voicing a main character of a Rockstar Game is a double sided gun, on sone side you are working with Rockstar Games, but for the rest of your career you exist only as that character

[@BadgerGoodger]

Not gonna lie, I saw Ned Luke in a diabetes medication commercial, and all I saw was Michael recommending medication. But I guess that's what happens with popular titles, especially by Rockstar. It's like the actors who played memorable characters on really popular TV shows and movies. The cast of Seinfeld will forever be seen as their characters on that show (Jason Alexander even made fun of this on Curb Your Enthusiasm). And I remember Rainn Wilson (Dwight from The Office) was on CNN once, and while they were on the air. one of the anchors for another show or something was surprised to see him and said "Hey! It's that guy from The Office" and Wilson sounded pretty annoyed at him and said "I have a name, you know!" To the general public, he is forever Dwight.

[@TheMobJob]

@@BadgerGoodger I suppose you're correct, I just kind of sympathize with them, someone who makes art, like Young Maylay whos been trying to make music for years, only to be known as CJ, would be motivation killing I'd imagine, but maybe I'm looking into it to much lol

[@BadgerGoodger]

Oh, for sure. I'd imagine Maylay feels a lot different about this compared to other voice actors. He isn't really a career voice actor, he's a rapper. He probably wants people to know him for his music and he wants to show what he can do, and while him voicing CJ definitely helped him in terms of building a bigger audience, everything he does now is drowned out in a sea of memes and quotes from 15 years ago. Do many of the people flooding his music videos and pictures with comments even listen to or care about his music?

[@TheMobJob]

@@BadgerGoodger Its a rough situation, but I wish him and every other actor the best, Glad to hear the Samuel L Jackson had no issues with Rockstar

[@nickrustyson8124]

@@TheMobJob This whole thing reminds me of Jani Lane of the band Warrant. You know Warrant as the band who made Cherry Pie, Jani hated that song, not only because it is dumb as shit, but also because he had to sing that song for over 20 years. He was only known for that song and that fact alone drove him to Suicide, multiple times, he died of alcohol poisoning in August 11, 2011

[@Donmenon]

San Andreas came out in 2004. Most of us who played it then are nearing our 30s now. And yet so many act like manchilds harassing and badgering the voice actors. Grow up, leave Maylay alone and reconsider your priorities smh. Also CJ is not coming back!!! Swallow it.

[@olliegoria]

Nah, its the kids who have found it since then. Especially ever since it was added to mobile in 2014.

[@Carlosdreamur]

ollie_goria most kids haven’t even played the mobile version but will still say it’s their favorite GTA

[@UmiZoomR]

I bet its just a lot of kids who watched some FlyingKitty videos for the first time

[@gaminggoof1542]

I appreciate Maylay's cousin even if I didn't care for Franklin. He seems like a decent sort trying to take the flak off of CJ bombardment bullshit. Hell I love SA but even so I'm not going to go to his page JUST to say SA this, SA that; nah I'd comment on dog, maybe talk about if brought up but he's still just a normal guy posting some stuff he likes

[@Donmenon]

Gaming Goof it’s sad because back in the day I remember reading about Maylay. He genuinely thought that the SA gig would have helped him gain fame and further his rap career. Things obviously didn’t quite work that way.

[@jagaloon14]

The GTA crew and Frank Vincent must’ve really liked working with each other. They gave him 3 games as one of the most memorable characters in the series imo. I think it’s so strange but really amusing to imagine them having a great time making the scenes come to life

[@farazattar3723]

Yeah Yeah. Salvatore Leone was an underrated legendary character in GTA franchise. I play GTA Liberty City Stories again and again for him and the protagonist Toni Cipriani, just like how I play GTA Vice City again and again for Ray Liotta(RIP LEGEND my most favorite Hollywood actor).

[@HuskyGamersUNITE]

Some actors are like that. Once they really click with what they are producing and get into the role, they are just a freight train and they absolutely kill it. Look at Dean Norris from breaking bad, he is a genuine joy to be around and he is like your bosterious uncle that shows up out of nowhere. He makes everyone laugh and have a good time, and he loves his fans and the time he spent on breaking bad.

[@jagaloon14]

@@HuskyGamersUNITE RIP to one of the great ones ❤️

[@DJFATCalvin]

Mr Leotardo was probably just a pleasant person to work with, a gentleman! Not a Hollywood diva. R.I.P Mr. Vincent, you propably were the most civil person to work on a GTA game.

[@zakenmaru8612]

I feel really bad for Hollick - I get that the actor's union should've looked into the contract more but still, he should've gotten some type of royalty or reward later on for his work on GTA 4. The economy might be up and down then, but c'mon, 600 mil isn't a small number!

[@zakenmaru8612]

@@LooterLoser I get that, but at the same time I would've expected him to get some sort of bonus afterwards considering how well GTA did that year

[@jacketofthe80s13]

@@LooterLoser ehhhh even if he did they would have just been like "well we're taking our ball and going back home" its a cheap fucking tactic in my opinion but that's what they could have done. or go and find another actor. rockstar and them are fucking chuds

[@journey95far49]

yeah he deserved better

[@solaireofastoradanksouls7969]

He did good voicing niko

[@paradoxinraindrops141]

@@LooterLoser I don't think it's entirely fair considering he was a struggling actor at the time deliberating the matter without _any_ union support. And even then, he reflects on it and his relationship with R* modestly & I'm sure it's a matter all parties would've loved to come to a happy middleground on if things were different.

[@JamesTrifolium]

A lot of kids seem to have a hard time grasping the fact that VAs are not developers or directors.

[@axelpatrickb.pingol3228]

A lot of PEOPLE seem to have a hard time grasping the fact that people working on lower-tier jobs are not managers or CEO's...

[@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012]

Half of rockstar fanbase were kids

[@Theoss-sl1fk]

@@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012 rated M for "Mature" but yet they're kids, but not the good kids, they're toxic kids (also, your name is funny)

[@qq5847]

@@Theoss-sl1fk lol hello đồng chí 😂

[@Theoss-sl1fk]

@@qq5847 xin chào

[@RexcorJ]

It's a small note, but a part of me is so happy to hear how much Phil Collins not only enjoyed working in games, but also with playing Crash and Spyro. The guy's influenced a part of my childhood thanks to his work in Tarzan, too, so it means a lot to know he loved two of my favorite classic games as well.

[@HuskyGamersUNITE]

Also I believe the members or the composer of Sting worked on the original Spyro soundtrack, so Phil Collins likely seena lot of familiar faces in the studio that helped pull him into the videogames too, if they got into it he might have said "okay let me try". Also he strikes me as a guy that would have been into dragons and fantasy mythology as a kid so I'll bet Spyro was right up his alley.

[@QuantumNetwork]

I’m surprised because I thought he hated it due to rockstar being unable to rerelease vice city stories because of Phil Collins presence but i guess that’s just licensing, whereas I always thought it was cause Phil Collins said he didn’t want to be in it

[@s1050]

Ray Liotta is known as being difficult to work with in movies let alone on a video game. He’s got a really dry sense of humour one of my favourite actors

[@troymartin4260]

he has also stated that he knows nothing about video games and only did it for the paycheck

[@TH3DANKs]

Saying Liotta is difficult, is like saying Babe Ruth was a bit rotund. They both delivered though.

[@Zillasucks]

Arsenal123 he was in mob of the dead and the bee movie. Those are the only other voice roles that I know he did

[@jyotiradityaguleria907]

@@Zillasucks Goodfellas

[@AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult]

@@Khadafi_1986 hi Luís, why have you never called me?

[@BoundaryBreak]

4:40 - you got the man to whos most famous for this scene to do the scene . I wouldve gotten a huge kick out of it!

[@OrigenalDarkMew]

Fancy seeing you here. Breaking all kinds of boundries aren't ya?

[@matty1754]

the boundary break guy

[@dirtyracc2170]

I was also surprised no one caught that it was a nice reference

[@acidstrummer]

Agreed, the Houser brothers sound kind of stuck-up to me

[@xymoriintus]

Definitely came off as p*ssies when he did that lol like seriously dude its a famous scene in a movie

[@RagingInsomniac]

MC Eiht probably didnt quit because of lack of money, but maybe because of his releases of music. When he was voice acting Ryder, he was working on albums, and he couldnt do two at once so he decided to quit to go full time on music. And judging by the fact he made "Welcome to Los Santos" he is perfectly cool with it. Usually people who have disputes arent on good terms with rockstar.

[@MidnightClubStillCancelledSoz]

I agree with Hollick. It’s the actors' union’s fault for their crappy contracts and for not understanding the gaming industry.

[@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012]

You're everywhere

[@Poedequin]

IKnowGunFu ikr

[@fencino]

GAMERS (and voice actors) RISE UP

[@ninjaofwarface4123]

Why this guy comments everywhere

[@monoooook]

This guy is everywhere after Megumi Bandicoot

[@mv-xr7lt]

I like R* trend of using "unknown" actors it's refreshing in a world where every AAA game has Troy Baker in it lol it really helps with the immersion and makes the characters feel authentic. Edit: no offense to Troy Baker btw is not his fault he gets many jobs lol

[@CDodger24]

Troy baker is so damn good that sometimes i hear him on JRPGs as well.

[@Kingrhem.]

Default caucasian male main character

[@python86ourside9]

Is kinda like GTA 1, 2, 3 and LCS they had ther own writing soundtrack and not use only license songs make the soundtrack has is own vibe.

[@kodakblackmane]

As much as I love Troy Baker and Nolan North, I'm starting to get really tired of hearing them in every game

[@qwertkeys30]

That's actually the problem...because they were "unknown" actors...when we look at them...we see GTA characters they played instead of the actual person..which pisses someone

[@Ar1AnX1x]

I think out of all the GTA games Niko Bellic's voice actor did the best job, acted really well in cutscenes and sounded realistic in gun fights shouting at enemies.

[@arghpee]

MOOOOOOOOTHERFUCKERS RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH

[@jamescario2292]

To this day I agree. 4 has aged like a fine wine

[@BLACKSTA361]

​@@jamescario2292Its so good no matter how you look at it. Best Soundtrack, Great Voice Acting, Darkest and most realistic Story, Amazing Physics and so much more. Peak GTA

[@jamescario2292]

@@BLACKSTA361 while I do think 4 had great voice acting, I will say it’s hard to pick between 4 and 5 for the “best” voice acting. I do think 4 had a better and more meaningful story (to me) and niko felt really relatable.

[@bigroaststyrone8135]

Ngl i think his accent is wonky at times but he does a fine job, that game in general has some pretty good vaing

[@feke5987]

Honestly I somewhat agree with Maylay. I'd probably be really pissed if my whole life was just flooded with people mentioning something I did in the past. And especially considering the majority of the GTA fanbase is cancerous kids who just scream "gTA 6 wHen". But one of the reasons most people know maylay in the first place is due to his role as CJ. I feel bad for Fonteno,Luke and Ogg too for how much they get asked the same old questions which they don't know answers for but they handle it well, so mad respect.

[@alterego9791]

Ikr. Imagine watching your social media filled with "GTA 6" all day and night.

[@ellardkurvin1459]

@@alterego9791 which sucks because on one side that just shows how great your performance was, but at the same time you're only known for that one piece of work

[@StoutProper]

Feke if it wasn't for San Andreas no one would know who the fuck he is. He made it huge with that game, he just doesn't know what to do with it and how to handle it

[@CosmoDawn1398]

some gta fans are just dumb

[@StoutProper]

Verdarius Davis you may as well say some people are dumb cos everyone between the ages of 5 and 45 has played gta

[@RevolverSnake007]

Vice City is the game that got me into basically everything I like now The music The style Miami Vice Scarface Etc.

[@BadgerGoodger]

Same here. You should see how many floral and Hawaiian/aloha print shirts I own. The Tommy Vercetti chic is in me.

[@RevolverSnake007]

@@BadgerGoodger I also sometimes do those Tommy suits too, I have a pinstripe suit with a pink shirt then my blue suit with a black shirt. Tommy has some of the best clothing in the series B-)

[@lucas169]

Revolver Snake? Is that what you get if Ocelot and Big Boss had a baby?

[@RevolverSnake007]

@@lucas169 you guessed it perfectly

[@InspireWire]

Me too! ^_^

[@newphilmz3605]

The Game was B-Dup, Ice-T was Madd Dogg, and Charlie Murphy was Jizzy. Just some unmentioned voice actors that stood out to me while laying San Andreas.

[@TimSlee1]

The voice actor for gta 3's protagonist ain't complaining and he did a great job. Memorable lines from gta 3's protagonist include: *grunt-1* *grunt-2* and *Scream-1*

[@1nc0rr1g1bl3]

Best actor of our generation.

[@brdgamemaster]

"Ungh" "Heugh" "OH!"

[@TaylorBlack_6]

And that line when he said ' '. That was beautiful

[@TimSlee1]

.@@TaylorBlack_6

[@colonelhstinkmeaner8547]

He's been in every Rockstar game since GTA3

[@theSPUDereHD]

Someone: CJ might be in the next GTA Young Maylay: Ah shit, here we go again

[@MrLachapell]

Damn even here

[@naKuhito]

@@MrLachapell fr

[@Groove4lyf3]

@@naKuhito no

[@IcyWraith]

How much more likeable would he be if he made that joke rather than blow up.

[@t.m.5004]

Best voice actor is Ran Fa Li’s voice actor hands down, his performance was unbelievable, with good shades of voice tones almost falling into dramatic

[@joaosimpson99]

Chinese is a wonderful language

[@alissa6]

Grunt, grunt, gruuunt, grunt. Ran Fa Li says thank you for all your wonderful comments.

[@vasotomovic667]

Funnily enough, he's voiced by Hunter Platin, who also provided voices for characters in Manhunt such as various gang members and Piggsy.

[@senormarston]

Nah, bro. Everybody know by fact that Claude's voice actor was the real deal and top of the GTA crew

[@RosieJonesRules]

Roger Clark and Rob Wiethoff have had no complains about Rockstar, neither have the actors for GTA V. Ogg even returned for a cameo in RDR2!

[@floydhebert3684]

RosieJonesRules Union must have improved since 2008

[@nicktubara]

@Youre Gonna Need a Bigger Boat sure looks n sounds like him 😛

[@leojay5076]

@Youre Gonna Need a Bigger Boat he's in the credits. He did a cameo as a villain in the epilogue part 1 and gets killed by John. Micheal de santas actor also recorded audio for a cameo but they never had time to finish his side quest

[@drobviouslol]

@@leojay5076 Steven Ogg said himself, that isn't him.

[@leojay5076]

@Youre Gonna Need a Bigger Boat imbd. Are you serious. More research pal

[@lucass430]

I find it incredible how Rockstar consistently finds amazing "unknown" actors for their games. The big names era was cool and all, but the voice acting along with the storytelling have come a long way. R* are the absolute masters in crafting engaging stories and worlds.

[@killerkitten7534]

Really great voice actors are often really small names. For example Steve Downes was a radio show host. One day someone from Bungie heard his voice and asked him to audition. He then went on to voice the master chief and still does to this day

[@marksantiago9841]

But still, famous characters voicing gta characters are really fascinating for me. Imagine to my shock that burt reynolds, samuel jackson, frank vincent, ray liotta and many more, voiced our beloved characters. Its quite shocking to me when i found that out.

[@danielkarcis1174]

The story telling got worse in 5 it was all over the place and characters would pop in for just 1 mission.

[@RheemQ]

​@danielkarcis1174 Man, as if the story in San Andreas is so consistent. You go from doing hood gang shit to working in the country side with weed heads and bipolar psychopaths, then to working with Chinese gangs and the government. What's so consistent about that? I don't hate San Andreas story I'm just pointing out the facts. The only story that was ever kind of consistent on these games was Vice City.

[@Dullahan161]

Because they're cheap and not as likely to make demands in contracts

[@princessmarlena1359]

I met the voice actor for Ricardo Diaz, Luis Guzman. He saw me in my Emma Frost/White Queen costume (think “Dark Phoenix Saga” style), called out to me to request a photo with me. I agreed, and he loved my costume. Such a sweet guy!

[@marksantiago9841]

You didn’t ask him about his role as diaz? He reprised his role in vice city stories so i doubt he had any beef with rockstar.

[@princessmarlena1359]

@@marksantiago9841 I briefly mentioned his role as Diaz, and a couple of other roles where I recognized him. That’s about it.

[@marksantiago9841]

@@princessmarlena1359 coolio!

[@lMedicineMan]

Oh man, I knew I wasn't the only one to proudly wear Hawaiian shirts because of Vice City!

[@markoz673bajen8]

Tommy Bahama

[@BadgerGoodger]

You should see my collection of them! I have one that's actually similar to Tommy's, but in a dark blue instead of light blue/turquoise.

[@lMedicineMan]

@@BadgerGoodger are they going to be featured in future videos? 😅

[@BadgerGoodger]

Well, this isn't a fashion channel, but maybe I'll find some way to show off my summertime Vercetti chic :P

[@arushamm]

Hey,i also wore hawaiin shirts because of tommy.

[@Risico16]

Phil Collins and Rockstar must've gotten along quite well, or else his songs wouldn't have been featured in every GTA title since VCS

[@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012]

I heard Phil Collins likes the GTA games, he also had a concert in vcs

[@trollege9488]

He play games before so yeah he didn't have a problem with it

[@mcfarland546]

Why do you think there is a Phil Collins song in GTA V on the Los Santos Rock Radio

[@Deadsea_1993]

Yeah he was actually a major character in Vice City Stories and he didn't even feel out of place. He did a great job.

[@davidchavez5418]

@@Deadsea_1993 he probably won't renew music licenses anymore lol

[@Jolis_Parsec]

Didn’t Lazlow leave Rockstar recently? Kinda interesting how the Housers and the dude who managed to not only appear in most if not all the games as a radio DJ only to wind up getting a story role in GTA V are no longer at the company they helped create.

[@davidchavez5418]

Lazlow was the longest character in gta history we will miss him

[@Darkcranio]

That's Take Two the publisher for you. Push they dont like from above. It will def show in GTA6 just wait.

[@BasePuma4007]

​@@Darkcranio I'm also worried the quality of the writing we got in Red Dead 2 is going to be entirely absent for GTA 6. I think a good reason for most Rockstar games being so well written was you had very coherent creative management from a small group of people at the top of the company, and there was no other faction either at Take Two or at Rockstar that had any involvement over the narrative (meaning no other faction involved had an opportunity to ruin it). There's so many video games (and streaming series) where you can tell whatever vision someone had for the IP was hijacked by publisher/studio micromanagement.

[@tempsitch5632]

Lazlow, the only person to work on and appear in the game. gtaVI has absolutely no chance

[@sffsgaming]

Damn.. Lazlow is probably gonna get savagely murdered in GTA 6 then (Rockstars way of giving their tribute)

[@AgentDanielCross]

Dont know if anyone already mentioned, but its possible that Micheal Madsen didn't reprise his role due to him being booked for Yakuza's English Dub

[@s1050]

Afghan Dan I think Michael would’ve done it if offered. He does every trash movie going

[@wwebadgerse]

They said they loved his movies, so he pulls the most iconic movie scene hes ever been in, for his personal enjoyment??? Sounds to me like he was trying to be fun with the fans and they didnt take it well, or the context in the news story is missing

[@billyshears2032]

they spun it to the interviewer that they were uncomfortable when it reality they probably politely laughed at the reference and moved on. It’s damage control so people feel okay about them underpaying their staff.

[@guthriebarrett]

Fun Fact: Claude had a celebrity voice actor also. Helen Keller.

[@manassikdar1]

Bruh

[@realhuman5688]

lmao

[@svb_zer0318]

Not funny. Bad dark humor joke.

[@svb_zer0318]

@Scratchy Buddy, I'm just stating my opinion. You however look like you have a problem with it.

[@NFSBeast2365]

WTF???

[@limemyth]

I'm thankful to god that Claude's voice actor got paid properly. Seriously tho, awesome video! Thanks for informing me about stuff i did not know before and giving me a new perspective on the entire thing!

[@qwertkeys30]

Claude doesn't speak a single line

[@limemyth]

Qwert Keys That was the joke.

[@Panzer_Runner]

@@qwertkeys30 What are you an idiot?

[@OficWidy]

@@qwertkeys30 r/woosh

[@JamesTrifolium]

**VERY ORIGINAL JOKE**

[@mazda9624]

I feel kinda bad for some of these voice actors because so many "fans" are constantly pestering them about future games that they know nothing about which just makes them upset and less likely to come back to the studio in the future.

[@lucaswibisono1316]

Or calling him as the "character" from said game. It could be annoying, but some of them are handling it professionally.

[@TinyBearTim]

@@lucaswibisono1316 that’s literally all celebrities who get called by there character .

[@TonyTigger-b2r]

I will say hollick did deserve royalties along with other actors and motion capture actors. I will also say $100,000 for a no name actor is pretty impressive. I think if he would've chilled out he could've had more opportunities through interviews with youtube blowing up, stream with twitch blowing up, and probably a minor role in GTA V or other future GTA titles. Which would've made his money back 10 fold including royalties and loyalty. He shot himself in the foot and alot of actors do this because they don't look at everything in front of them and analyze it properly. Now of course we also didn't have the knowledge we have now so who's to know that being patient would've worked back then.

[@timmzzzz88]

Idk how he negotiated a contract to get 100k. But GTA was already an established entity in the videogame space by the time of GTA 4. Everyone knew it was going to sell as well as it did. There's no reason for anyone to get paid that kind of money with no other incentives on such a major title. Yea he may have shot himself in the foot. But again... Should have never been put in that position in the first place.

[@ronald3836]

Hollick could have asked for royalties when negotiating his contract, and apparently he did, but at that time Rockstar could easily have picked some other no-name actor willing to work for less. Hollick was not in much of a position to negotiate, still received decent pay, gained a lot of name recognition (but IMDB suggests it did not really help him), and could probably have returned for more work if he had kept his demands in check. Btw, his voice acting was great, but the creative work was not his but Rockstar's.

[@BoleDaPole]

He should've been mad at his agent, not Rockstar.

[@jeremiahmay6936]

Joe Pantoliano may have taken issue with the content of GTA III for the reason of him having children because in 2001 video games where still very much seen as a childrens pastime. With the game gaining the popularity that it did so fast he probably felt that his children would more likley be exposed to it than his other mature works. I was 12 years old when GTA III dropped and trust and believe I managed to play the whole game through ...AND I DIDN'T EVEN OWN A PS2!!! I played it on my sisters boyfriends ps2. Lol. At that age I also had no interest in The Sopranos even though my grandfather watched it. Although I did watch it when i was about 21/22 years old and loved it. Of coarse I don't know his reasoning behind the comment but I wanted to give an educated guess. Great video by the way. Thanks for creating it.

[@trealsteve]

Facts. Some people (like the narrator) just like to get pissy when people prefer not to take part in their favorite things for personal reasons. They try to pass it off as being a hypocrite and such, but context is key in this case.

[@billyshears2032]

fr

[@smatchimo55]

it was trendy to demonize video games and violent music back then. Tipper Gore. nuff said.....

[@carcrashjayson]

He also got majorly pissed at The Sopranos doing a photoshoot with his character's headless body because he thought his children would see it.

[@Deadsea_1993]

Yeah back then games were far different. That's a good point about the violence side of things cause 10 years before Gta 3, you had Super Nintendo with kid friendly games as a whole. Mortal Kombat started a huge controversy cause games were seen as interactive toys. Games have come a long way since then and the industry has changed. Game makers of Bioshock and Flower, Flow, and Journey all joined together to express video games as works of art and there was an internet feud between them and film critics like Roger Ebert that said games couldn't ever be art like film was.

[@_Alexesh_]

The reason why the voice actor of CJ was pissed off in the end was cause people were asking if he will be in GTA 6. That’s the fault of his cousin who is the voice actor of Franklin from GTA 5. He said something like CJ might be in GTA 6.. what isn’t possible anyway cause GTA 6 will also be set in the HD Universe and GTA: San Andreas is a part of the 3D universe.

[@JamesTrifolium]

I don’t wanna sit and listen to an old man talking about how he recaptured Grove Street.

[@_Alexesh_]

jbiehlable No.. he was trolling like the voice actors of Michael and Trevor also did before. Nice joke to say something like that and let the cousin earn even more hate for that😂

[@_Alexesh_]

jbiehlable That’s true but Franklin’s voice actor made it even more worse for his cousin cause he said CJ might be in GTA 6 and then people trolled him even more.

[@_Alexesh_]

jbiehlable Trying to reason” is this still English? I’m just bringing a fact that these voice actors are just trolling sometimes and/or making fun to not lose relevance.. but that doesn’t mean they are bad people.

[@_Alexesh_]

jbiehlable Nah you don’t understand that they are mostly trolling.

[@hacktor_92]

and the problem with maylay is the fact he's considered a character, when he's clearly a REAL PERSON. if you really loved cj, get over it, and support him for what is he now.

[@retrostyle7962]

@hacktor_92 Awesome comment.

[@Dabajaws]

preach man

[@Christian_playz_]

YEA. these arse heads don't even play the game and say that San Andreas is the best cuz of the games. I'm a 14 year old. But I play and respect every GTA. Unfortunately I don't have GTA 5 or Online. Kinda lucky for not being toxic I guess. One day I asked my friend what is your favourite GTA and he said San Andreas. I replied "good thing that tenpenny died" and he says "sorry, I don't know the story" like bruh.

[@TheSilentWalkerz]

No one some actors hate the characters they’ve played. They don’t want to be known as a specific character for the rest of their life

[@PlayfulGenie]

Oh my gawd, what a Greek tragedy, people call him CJ, quick, book him some therapy!

[@A-small-amount-of-peas]

Tales of Burt Reynolds being a pain in the ass are legendary and numerous. He was his own worst enemy

[@khartoumlavage4253]

Yeah, I'd have socked his ass. Lol.

[@mrbojangles1391]

In the end...death was his own worst enemy.

[@rougelazer8278]

@@mrbojangles1391 lol sounds like a norm joke

[@Deadsea_1993]

He was great playing as himself in Saints Row though.

[@BrunodeSouzaLino]

@@Deadsea_1993 And that's played for laughs considering the excessive praise he's given in the game.

[@Puxi]

Yeah, yeah Ray Liotta complaining about Rockstar Games but 2012 he got into the Call of Duty Black Ops II Zombies Prison DLC. Who are you kiddin? Working for activision...

[@TheMasterQuests]

Its cause by 2012 he lost his fame

[@shawnm1483]

Wallet was fatter at. The time lol

[@Puxi]

@@TheMasterQuests Is losing fame the reason he acted in bee movie?

[@Puxi]

@@shawnm1483 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZmmaYZ8h9-EmMk Look here he was fighting against sam ramies spieder man. Oh boy yeah. Pizza time.

[@v-trigger6137]

I didn't knew about this, but I'm not really surprised though.. I mean that's a Activision game after all, those guys hire straight industry A-listers.. actors like Ed Harris, Ice Cube, Gary Oldman etc has done VA for multiple COD games. I bet Ray at least gotten 500 thousands or a million to work in that game lol

[@AJ_hwd954]

MC Eiht also had issues with Rock* during SA production leading to Ryders awkward betrayal.

[@1nc0rr1g1bl3]

It's a rumor but I wish both parties said something about it.

[@nobody-tj1mv]

My god the production on this video was really good! Really interesting from the beginning to the end!

[@Sedan57Chevy]

Frank Vincent was the man, RIP Mr. Leone. *EDIT* You made me spittake so hard when you ran that "She was a hoo-aahhh" line from Ralphie. Jesus, I was not ready for that.

[@sanatsrivastava2814]

He was the shiniest of all shineboxes.

[@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012]

Hydraulic underwear

[@shrekgaming6593]

Well we will miss Tommy's voice actor RIP legend 😞

[@1234sdg131]

Great video Badger! Rockstar has definitely an issue with most major voice actors, but let's be honest, games like GTA VC are still being sold worldwide, earning money for the company. Jenna's 5k looks like a drop in the ocean.

[@galilalexandro4793]

I remember every line that Claude talked in GTA3

[@bigbootyenjoyer]

Me too i can actually do a spot on Claude impression

[@chillcult1613]

"ah" "erkkk" "......." *proceed to talk with facial expresion

[@thewewguy8t88]

@@chillcult1613 fun fact i am pretty sure the voice actor is the same voice actor for characters like gorden freeman from half life.

[@chillcult1613]

@@thewewguy8t88 now i know why Gordon sound like Claude

[@thewewguy8t88]

@@chillcult1613 yes pretty I also think he did the voice work for the playable character in fallout 3 and new Vegas. Skyrim,obivion and morroawind. I think he maybe also has voice work going back as far as the doom guy from the original 2 games!

[@blakegriplingph]

Now that I've watched _Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs,_ the whole situation with some GTA actors complaining about being underpaid or not given enough credit reminded me of Adriana Caselotti. Her only starring role was Snow White and she was paid $970 for her stint. I mean sure, back then that was no small expense, and while she didn't have any misgivings towards Walt Disney and embraced the role she was famous for, she did lament about not getting much in the way of residuals and royalties for her performance, especially when the 1937 film was released for the first time on home video. I'm sure the latter part does sound familiar once you know about what I mentioned with Coolie Ranx and a few other actors. Not to mention that Disney withholding Caselotti's character's voice for their exclusive use also eerily reminded me of what I've been told by Jason Zumwalt when I asked if he could record a birthday greeting in character as Roman.

[@johnfromthewest]

Tbf it's unreasonable to ask voice actors about the next game because even of they do know anything all they will have is "yeah I came in and said some lines" that's it

[@BadgerGoodger]

I don't think many people realize this. I just read an article that referenced "GTA 5's Trevor" and claimed that Steven Ogg possibly knows something or "accidentally" revealed GTA 6's release date, just because he gave an answer of "Rockstar's games can take years to make, do the math" (this followed a very sarcastic response where he was saying that the game would be announced or released in May). What a load of clickbait garbage.

[@dfsdfsdfasdfsdfsdfaasdf]

@@BadgerGoodger the internet for you

[@viniciusribeiro7279]

That's if they're allowed to talk about it, which obviously they ain't

[@Frogfacts4738bd]

I get the feeling that especially some younger celebrities that are very popular might be interested in playing some of these roles. Not particularly for the pay but they may be fans of the games themselves etc.

[@ahmedmujtaba4445]

RIP Ray Liotta. You will never be forgotten.

[@xmute711]

Claud’s speech in one of the missions almost made me cry

[@Movieplayer290]

I miss him alot...

[@nikto7297]

"ughh" what a heart warming line

[@YxngE]

Which mission

[@Duckingheights]

Really interesting video Badger Goodger. Glad you cleared up some stuff about the VAs and their issues. Interesting to me that Michael Hollick wasn't mad at Rockstar but his own union. Didn't know about the video game 2016 strike until now. And I must say Badger, love the minor yet interesting topics that you bring up, keep it up.

[@BadgerGoodger]

Thanks! I don't know if many people were aware of what Hollick said about Rockstar in that article. In a way, I feel like the headline screwed him in terms of the situation that occurred back then and how people perceived it. Most people just glance at headlines of articles, and when fans saw a headline where it appeared that he was complaining about his pay, people probably just took it as "Oh, he must hate Rockstar." And that belief stuck since 2008.

[@Duckingheights]

@@BadgerGoodger aka, no-one has heard about the saying, "don't judge a book by it's cover".

[@markoz673bajen8]

@@Duckingheights Caught with your pants down mission.

[@nickrustyson8124]

@@Duckingheights To be fair, those sites are horrible with ads

[@AlamoOriginal]

@@BadgerGoodger It probably because how it relates to the fans, most folks on GTAForums take on position with Michael Hollick

[@jaydenmontoto8866]

After playing all of the grand theft auto games, I have to say the voice acting in impeccable. However my favorite actor in that regard is the actor that played Claude, so much feeling and passion behind the role.

[@TheNameIsCargo]

Claude voice actor hasn’t said a bad thing about rockstar. Seems like a good guy

[@The_Real_Tom_Ball]

The actor of Claude was the most screwed over because he was in GTA 3 and San Andreas got paid nothing and didn’t even get to record half his lines

[@DCol]

He was also in GTA2

[@BrunodeSouzaLino]

Those two are not the same Claude.

[@DCol]

@@BrunodeSouzaLino he is to me.

[@darthmasterwindu116]

You missed his voice line which was “…”

[@LevinsConvoy]

Both the Devs and VAs are valid. It's always a case by case basis. If a game has minimal work, then yes the devs deserve more credit. But with games like GTA or Persona or Mass Effect, the voice actors help make you more invested in characters. And they make you wanna come back for next time if it ever happens. They matter just as much as the Devs who work hard on the games as well. It's a dicey situation, but dismissing one group isn't good in my mind.

[@ronald3836]

Then they can demand more money next time Rockstar wants to hire them. The Friends actors received only little for the first season because the production company could have hired anyone. But for each next season they could ask more. Still they could not ask for crazy amounts or their character would simply be killed off. Hollick was a no-name actor and in no position to negotiate. For him, Rockstar could have picked a few dozen others.

[@ThaYoungChad]

While I do think voice actors are the ones that bring the character to life. The programmers and coders are still the back bone of videogames and I believe deserve the most attention and pay. I'm not saying voice acting and motion capture isn't hard work. But I'm sure you can find anyone willing to do it, you can't find anyone willing to spend long hours sitting at a desk coding.

[@Frost-bs6xr]

ThaYoungWolf rockstar’s end credits are 40 minute, that says how huge the team is

[@capincam]

Truue

[@mitpoker7319]

I think you have it all backwards. Just because you're a game dev, doesn't mean that you're entitled to the best acting talent for your silly game. Let alone, have the right to pay voice actors peanuts, just because "they're not the programmers." As a game dev, you also have a responsibility as to how to manage the vision of your game. After all, as a dev, you wrote the d@mn storyline and character arcs for your effing game. So, as a dev, if you don't want to deal with the headaches of big name $$$ actors, then don't hire big name $$$ actors or base your characters off their acting style. Or even better, have your game's character dialogue, entirely text based, if you don't want to deal with any actors, at all. Because these people are actors, that's their craft, and it's all they know, and they don't know sh#t about videogame development, and they don't have to. Acting is their job, not sitting behind a desk coding and getting yelled at by an incompetent project manager. I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but respect the value of other people's craft. Because, if you plan to add voice actors to your game, then you're by default entering territory that you are not an expert in. How? You are trying to add an aspect to your game that you have no clue how it works. In this case, trying to implement something that required from the realm of acting. A realm that any programmer will have close to zero clue how it works. Again, if you don't want to pay $5 million for an acting role, then don't base your characters off a $5 million actor. This is already true in the movie industry. Why should it be any different in the videogame world when it comes to voice acting? Don't go about saying that actors need to be played less when it comes to video games, simply because it's the devs that are the backbone of the code and not the actors. Voice acting is a supplement to a videogame, not a requirement. A game can be fully functional without any voice acting. And at the end of the day, the backbone of the soul of the character is the actor, not the programmer. You can't code acting. Lastly, unless you already plan to make a trash game, then yeah, it will be easy to find anyone to do the voice acting and motion capture. Trash takes no effort to make. But if you plan to make a good game with a good story, then good voice and motion actors will quite hard to find if you don't have the $$$. No good actor works for peanuts on the dollar, kid.

[@Frost-bs6xr]

The College Nerd rockstar gave the actors a contract, they signed it. They are not to complain

[@mitpoker7319]

@@Frost-bs6xr By the looks, you have to clue how the acting industry works. Trust me, kid. Every actor that ever did a gig for R* is already complaining. You won't see any of them sign a second contract with rocky. Why? Because lowballing actors creates bad relationships. This is why rockstar games' storylines are becoming more and more stale and generic. No good actor is gonna work with these guys. This is why you will never see characters like Cj, Tommy Vercetti, Niko Bellic, and most of the Gtav protags ever make a comeback. The VAs for those characters have now ghosted Rockstar Games. This isn't 2005 where videogame voice acting was a niche.

[@ducannguyen7796]

Another great video, always looking forward to seeing your content.

[@Roc_Official]

Duc An Nguyen Agreed, got to Appreciate High Quality vids.

[@KennyLunacy]

For those not in the know, Young Maylay voiced what happened to make him go off. I guess Rockstar or some troll sent him messages telling him what to do and what not to do regarding GTA recently.

[@punkdallas1646]

I believe Young Maylee is trying to move on in his life. Michael Holick didn't get paid enough but only because the year when the game was made in. Some people still probably view video games as "cartoons" (not to be taken seriously). When did actors above the age of eighteen started outing themselves as gamer's? When did that become common place? (I probably sound stupid for bringing this up). Burt Reynolds is one of the sexiest men in history but he was out of his element. Plus couple with the fact that he was never gonna be easy to work because he'll always have emotional baggage written all over him. On Ray Liotta's case he wanted to do different things. Just he said he didn't want be the same character for the rest of his life. We need KZbin channel LEGAL EAGLE on the case.

[@thegloriouspyrocheems2277]

No offense to Michael Hollick - but his voice acting made me cringe If you don't speak my language fluently - DON'T USE IT. I cringed every time I listened to him speak my language (even if it only a few lines) Literally anyone who is Croat/Serbian/Bosnian or whatever could have voiced instead of an American who did not even bother to learn a proper pronounciation of the words he was suppose to read

[@punkdallas1646]

@@thegloriouspyrocheems2277 Sorry being in America I didn't know it wasn't fluent. Maybe the actor Vladimir Mashkov should've taken it more seriously? My years of dreaming before having the game made me think the voice actor would've been Jason Statham.

[@AgentDanielCross]

@@erincarson8998 Then ya may not like my suggestion of Nick Rekieta

[@AlamoOriginal]

@@erincarson8998 the fuck are you blabbing about?

[@AlamoOriginal]

The problem here is the ammount of work, if you bother taking a look at the list of voices of Niko in the game, there are over tens of thousands lines, not to mention the taxis, telephones and some cut dialogues, really its just surprising they only give him in such ammounts

[@gaminggoof1542]

One of the reasons PS2 GTAs are the best to me were the celebs. Back when they were rare in games I loved going around watching the cutscenes and seeing Jackson, Trejo or Ray to even Burt talking in them

[@MatadorShifter]

Frank Vincent was given a huge part in LCS, they MUST have gotten along well

[@floydhebert3684]

4:00 I don’t know why, but I really appreciate this pun here

[@ROCKSTARMANIC12]

Great video Badger!! very interesting how almost every Voice actor that has worked with R* has either been on opposites ends of the spectrum regarding how their experience was. Cant wait for another long video!! keep the content coming.

[@justanotheranimeprofilepic]

Guys can we please remember that the VAs would rather not be remembered for just one character

[@nicolasfranco9426]

Your channel its a hide gem of gta channels... So underrated.

[@deathrager2404]

hidden*

[@nicolasfranco9426]

@@deathrager2404 n

[@antonydrossos5719]

It takes a lot for me to feel actual fear from a fictional villain, but Samuel L Jackson as Officer Tenpenny legit scared the PISS out of me!

[@psychotropicstate]

Man it's my dream to be a voice actor. Kind of weird to say, especially on this video, but it just reminded me of how much I want to be. That'd be cool

[@Lasagnabobby]

Ok, but everybody must agree that gta chinatown has the best voice actors

[@applesafari3481]

I liked the part when they all said “ “ sooo inspirational

[@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012]

@@applesafari3481 deserve an oscar

[@JomJom412]

So did GTA Advance

[@galilalexandro4793]

Let’s not forget about claudes voice actor

[@Dabadi4834]

I now their Chinese is very authentic

[@Lucas_Hanry]

Relaxing voice

[@donjuantrumpetajohnson]

Nah he sounds like a total dick.

[@SkydrawnIV]

Sounds similar to The Postal Dude

[@Mach5Johnny]

Despite Young Maylay not wanting the spotlight. I’d love to see CJ make a comeback… CJ absolutely is one of my all time favorite GTA Characters next to Trevor from GTA5

[@Dimez757]

CJ is the greatest GTA protagonist imo still, a straight gangster and a badass.

[@Mach5Johnny]

@@Dimez757 reason why I love CJ. He’s definitely the most relatable in my book.

[@DaKiddSkyy]

Rockstar makes hell of a game, but they finessing.

[@khartoumlavage4253]

So clearly finessing, it's not even funny.

[@NotCharAznable]

Yup. The making the maximum most profit.

[@greatomeister675]

Haha exactly

[@methos4866]

@A J But they do make or break a good story which is a pretty big deal when it comes to games like GTA. If they weren't important they could just hire any random and end up with voice acting in a game like Shenmue. Their names may not be the draw but their voices are and that deserves more than the pittance Rockstar/Take-Two pays them

[@The_king567]

They literally only have one good game

[@TheBatMav]

Michael Madsen went onto voice Tanner in Driv3r. That was GTA's rival at the time. So that makes sense why he didn't return for LCS.

[@Ezrathescribe27]

$100,000? Pfft that's nothing... he should have gotten way more than that... he should have made 3 million at least, he put in so much work he deserves lots of mil

[@SherrifOfNottingham]

While he did the most work of any voice actor, he did less work than every programmer on the team, of which there's about 150... that's 450 million dollars for a game that did 600 million, which would only leave 150 million to pay the other 850 people that worked on the game AND be the investment return so the investors would be willing to throw that kind of money at the next game too. The game made 600 million over the course of 5 years meaning that your strategy of paying employees 3 million for putting in "so much work" be non profitable for the first couple of years there. So no, we can't pay the voice actor that barely works for 1 year of the 3 years of development time that much money and expect the rest of the thousand people working on the game to not lose a lot of morale.

[@markoz673bajen8]

My mom says your voice is preachy to the truth. To both me and her you settle to be the Moses of Kings Speech when it comes to content like these. Hope the best for YT channel to stay alive for more content variety for sake of hearing out the voice. Peace from 🇧🇭

[@themathanator432]

Badger I think that the voice actors help bring the characters to life just as much as the animators do, so they should probably be getting equal pay.

[@musikteca]

Programmers and writers are the mind of the character, and actors are the body. They complement each other and both need to be well paid.

[@SherrifOfNottingham]

the difference being that the actors work for 15 months off and on in sessions while the programmers and writers work for 3 years full time.

[@evanharrison4054]

Hopefully now, actors will realize that recording thousands of lines for a AAA game, apparently only counts as "good exposure", and after a long and arduous process, developers will realize that the people who work for them as outside contractors, still count as f*cking human beings. Any of these actors could have taken some advertisement job, or bit part in a sitcom(or twenty) during the time it took them to go to work and rehearse and record every line 3-4 times, and instead they did charity to a multimillion dollar corporation. I'm not saying R*ckstar should get f*cked and its HQ burned to the ground, but there's a special place in hell for companies that hire an entire retinue of lawyers, just to find every single loophole in order to not have to do anything more than the absolute legal minimum. I'd bet the combined retail price of every single PC GTA game that they spend more on the legal team in a quarter than they do on voice actors and other assorted freelancers during the entire production cycle of any of their major releases.

[@tommyvercetti9434]

Preach, my dude

[@yankees29]

Why did the same voice actors sign the contract they did and agree to the terms if they could “just do a sitcom”?

[@LP-ct9nk]

Because corporations are notorious for using loopholes and understating the amount of work needed for a project. Some voice actors still fall into the trap of “oh mayor it‘ll be good exposure” and then get screwed later on. OP’s original point is all facts tho and rockstar knows it hence why they do damage control

[@gasmaskestore8018]

Michael Hollick deserves an Humanity Achievement Award for playing Niko, what a legend.

[@aloistyler]

main character voice actors should be paid royalties 🤷🏼‍♀️ if their voice helps sell the game then they should be allowed 5 percent of sales

[@achraf3852]

I think you should also talk about the voice acting in GTA 4. Juliette Lewis hosted Radio Broker and didnt seem to complain about working with Rockstar Games, Karl Lagerfeld designed some clothes for GTA 4 and even got his own radio station (K109). He said that he loved video games and after his death Rockstar Games released a RIP post in Instagram... Yes there are some diva voice actors who think they’re the best but some of them are nice (Gilles Peterson is also lovable and loved working with GTA)

[@user-cp9id1mj8b]

This video answers so many questions I had. Thank you for this Mr Badger.

[@naturallawman2965]

You nailed it... It's a double-edged sword. Games are built by a team. Everyone including actors. But in James McCaffrey's case... It doesn't matter who models a MP game, his voice will always be the heart & soul of any Max Payne story.

[@fallenangel6141]

Damn, it's so sad to see CJ's voice actor not be with Rockstar... Like, one of the best GTA characters just gone.

[@marksantiago9841]

Well blame the morons they called “fans” who keep annoying him with repetitive questions that he clearly doesn’t have any answers for.

[@t.empress]

I feel bad for the last few actors. it’s always the communities fault, putting the actors in a difficult position by asking them questions they don’t have answers to

[@glen1ster]

I like Ray Liotta the best. Looking at the number of audio files he made, he probably did more acting for VC than for any of his movies, too.

[@IAMNOTRANA]

18:13 GTA community feel like 80% filled with kids asking for GTA 6. Pretty cringe and feel pretty bad for every voice actor that have to face these kids every seconds of their life.

[@gtagerry2896]

Give Frank Vincent a break, he did 20 years in the can.

[@PohTrain]

He wanted to fuck a woman, he compromised. He played GTA instead.

[@trollege9488]

@@PohTrain He Went from fuckin women To gaming

[@johnnybensonitis7853]

Joey Pants' quote aged about as well as spoiled milk lol. The Sopranos was marketed as an adult series while GTA was a video game kids would more likely be exposed to. Great vid, glad I finally got around to checking it out!

[@TenWolf-wb7pc]

17:04 GTA 6 rumors and Shawn Fonteno are why We kept seeing ruomors of CJ returning and Shawn never actively dismissed them (since him and Maylay are cousins) and that set him off. Before it seems it was more passive hate since he never planned to work with them again, and even acknowledges that he did the role a fair chunk. But when you hated working with them and hear everyone saying that he'll return.....yeah that set him off I'm on his side though to a degree; he should not be getting hate simply for saying he won't work with them again

[@dankmansalley417]

Theo Stadick I think it was something soon cause I’m some gta 5 promotional vidoe with Shawn he sees young maylay on the street and he didn’t mine doing the cj voice and even said “I’m cj from grove street” so I think he just for tired of it recently

[@TenWolf-wb7pc]

@@dankmansalley417 he said he would never work for rockstar again. He seems to be very open and proud of voicing CJ. He's posted CJ fan content to his Insta even. I think what set him off was so many people wanting him back in GTA 6

[@KevinSheppard]

Some quality content 😌 Thank you! As for how compensation could be improved: give the actors royalties and give the programmers shares in the company once they've been there for a certain period of time (maybe 3 years or so).

[@I_Cunt_Spell]

Lol, nah. How would ceo and his underlings buy that third Ferrari and a second mansion?

[@TKsh1]

Excellent video, it shines some lights at Rockstar's history with voice actors. I honestly like unknown/new artists more that famous ones because they feel more unique, believable and excited to work with.

[@Konkretertyp]

That is exactly how i feel, well known actors gets boring after a certain period of time, because you know them and their voices well enough and the certain kind of performance they are doing. Less known/ new actors, that are doing a good performance are always very welcome. Side Note: the only voice actors i really love for every documetories in german (i am german) are Hans Mittermüller (may his soul rest in peace, sadly he died last year) and Joachim Kerzel, who were the voice of a lot of documataries, that i watched in the past and have a deep, really calming voice, that i really love to pay attention to, as they explaining the world. Documentaries are the only exception i make, to hear the same voice actors over and over again, when the voice is really good.

[@EngineeredFemale]

So that means Tommy Vercitti & Carl Jhonson *Won't ever return?*

[@CLK944]

Nor will niko bellic

[@dl5fse990]

Aren’t those characters from a different universe anyway?

[@EngineeredFemale]

@@dl5fse990 Yep you are correct but what I wanted to say is as the voice actors of Tommy Vercitti & CJ are pissed off by Rockstar they won't ever return back to work with them lol.. So that's why I told that we may never see Tommy Vercitti & CJ.

[@nickrustyson8124]

@@EngineeredFemale Honestly I'm okay with that, they're in their own game, and I don't think we need more of them, especially after nearly 20 years

[@xZippy]

@@dl5fse990 No, the 3D and HD universe are shared. You just don't see a lot of crossovers between them. Protagonists usually don't return anyway because they had enough screen time.