I Cleaned Valuable Coins & Sent them to PCGS - Results!

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Rocky’s Ramblings

Rocky’s Ramblings

Күн бұрын

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@razpenguin
@razpenguin 22 күн бұрын
This just confirms to me that coin grading is generally a scam. Cool video.
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 21 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@handelknob
@handelknob Ай бұрын
What has been evident for 200 years is there is cleaning and there is restoration
@flower2289
@flower2289 5 ай бұрын
I always give my silver coins an acetone bath before sending off for grading. Mainly to get rid of dirt, grease, pvc, etc. I have never used the more aggressive cleaners like MS70 or EZEST. I need to give those cleaners a try. If PCGS can restore a coin there is no reason a thoughtful and careful collector can't do the same.
@lenadial4678
@lenadial4678 4 ай бұрын
Dude why aren't u wearing gloves. Why do they recommend we don't clean our coins, because it devalues it?
@LearnTheWild
@LearnTheWild Ай бұрын
@@lenadial4678huh!?😂
@jessebutryn
@jessebutryn Ай бұрын
Acetone is definitely more aggressive than MS70.
@lenadial4678
@lenadial4678 Ай бұрын
@@flower2289 how long do you leave your coins in solution & how many at one time?
@-oiiio-3993
@-oiiio-3993 3 ай бұрын
I remember when David Hall started PCGS with the heavily advertised assurance that no cleaned coin would ever 'make their grade'.
@bobford7366
@bobford7366 19 күн бұрын
but hall did not say conserved lol
@TomMack530
@TomMack530 24 күн бұрын
How you get them in the registry ? I have quite a lot of old Morgan silver dollars I have cc , New Orleans and they are in mint state, I was metal detecting and I found 5 Mason jars full of them still sealed 😮, that was a very great day for me 🎉
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 23 күн бұрын
Wow! That’s awesome. I found a toolbox full of baseball cards once but they had water damage unfortunately. And I don’t know as much about baseball cards as I do Coins ha ha. PCGS has a PCGS Set Registry app that you can enter Coins into. Hope that helps. If you want to sell any, let me know!
@peterhawryluk8430
@peterhawryluk8430 4 ай бұрын
I started collecting a long time ago. When ngc and pcgs hijacked our hobby making themselves instantly the experts. When ANNACS was around longer but a few guys got together and made these grading companies. But when they started with it was cleaned , but not by us so we're letting everyone know. That's hijacking our hobby.
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 4 ай бұрын
Yeah I do believe it’s a scam to a degree as well. You can go right on their app and see the pictures of their high graded coins and I have many times had nicer coins then what they’re showing and they give me some low ball grade. The big players get the good grades. Also the subjectivity in the grading is really messed up. With AI now there should be an easier, faster and more uniform way of grading.
@stacyflack1406
@stacyflack1406 Ай бұрын
@@rockysramblingsI agree 💯💯💯I’ve done the same . I told PCGS I couldn’t find my coin in their grading examples 😂my coins were far superior they offer to let u send back in yet would only improve one grade higher if they improved at all . The example of MS 65 which one of mine graded was a hideous photo mine far superior yet if it went to MS 66 it was worth $5 more . I sent an MS 67 was expecting that maybe a plus + but a 65 😢 scam
@bobford7366
@bobford7366 19 күн бұрын
the grading companies have done far more good than they have bad. they have taking our hobby to new heights and a wider audience. good for them and us.
@jadonnoble5621
@jadonnoble5621 5 ай бұрын
Man that sucks that PCGS took the 1880 CC out of the GSA holder. Having the coin in a GSA holder usually makes CCs worth more.
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 5 ай бұрын
If I remember right my holder was cracked. They gave me the option to holder the entire GSA holder, but I said not to. I didn’t know they did that when I sent it in.
@jadonnoble5621
@jadonnoble5621 5 ай бұрын
@@rockysramblings oh yeah.NGC just puts a band around them with the grade. ANACS does something similar. PCGS is the only one that encapsulates the GSA capsule lol
@keymbord
@keymbord 5 ай бұрын
​@@rockysramblings ANACS, NGC, and PCGS will all grade GSA coins in the holders (soft and hard). NGC will also grade blue and brown Ikes as well as Redfield hoard morgans in their original case
@numismaticstacker
@numismaticstacker 5 ай бұрын
I use EZest I reduce it with distilled water. Rinse and dip in distilled water bath. Hairdryer. No dry rubbing! Perfect way works for me. I have never used ms70 sounds like I'd give it a try someday
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 5 ай бұрын
I feel like ms70 is good for the heavier gunk. Some coins don’t look that dirty but you’d be amazed how black the swabs get. Then EZest is a nice way to shine them up!
@russellr1677
@russellr1677 5 ай бұрын
It’s the easiest
@ehrenkrause9861
@ehrenkrause9861 5 ай бұрын
I use Dawn detergent to take off the initial oils and environmental grime before I dip. Amazing soap for cleaning even without scrubbing if you know how to use hydraulic agitation.
@66block84
@66block84 5 ай бұрын
This is what my LCS told me to do to get the decades of dirt & grime off mine.
@Amazingcoins4you
@Amazingcoins4you 5 ай бұрын
Great video. Your videos on this is why I clean most coins before I send to pcgs. So far never got a cleaned detail grade. Thanks for all your videos.
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 5 ай бұрын
Glad to hear that! Thanks for watching
@coinstruck6079
@coinstruck6079 5 ай бұрын
Well done on the 1899 getting MS65. Excellent result.
@jsimmons9969
@jsimmons9969 Ай бұрын
I think the coins look better uncleaned. They are old coins. Thats how i like them to look.
@WilletteB-g5r
@WilletteB-g5r 12 күн бұрын
Hmmmm?😮 What about the ones that look as though they rescued from human; cat and or dog litter boxes, believe or not, they come in bank rolled coins, also!!! Ehhhh.. YES seriously.....disgusting....but true.😂😂..
@alankoz5067
@alankoz5067 4 ай бұрын
I had a GORGEOUS Franklin half which just had a nasty carbon spot on it. The fields were so slick the coin almost looked proof-like. So I took some coin cleaner and a Q-tip and tried to get the carbon spot off. I did not use much pressure, either, or so I thought. The Q-TIP ALONE scratched the coin surface!!! I have kept this coin as a lesson to myself for my screw-up.
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 4 ай бұрын
What cleaner did you use?
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 4 ай бұрын
I cleaned proof coins in another video and it went great 🤔
@alankoz5067
@alankoz5067 4 ай бұрын
@@rockysramblings MS70?
@alankoz5067
@alankoz5067 4 ай бұрын
@@rockysramblings Long time ago. I just could not believe COTTON could scratch METAL.
@-oiiio-3993
@-oiiio-3993 3 ай бұрын
@@alankoz5067 'Mint lustre' is an oxide layer only microns thick.
@lawbiffington143
@lawbiffington143 5 ай бұрын
Was hopping you would do this. Thank you for the science
@b-man1232
@b-man1232 5 ай бұрын
Love vids like this....when a person proves the "doubters" WRONG!! Ironically, the "restoration process" with these grading companies is probably very similar and you just saved yourself a lot of time and money by doing it yourself. Coins turned out beautiful
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 5 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 5 ай бұрын
I did a video on PCGS restoration. In that video I said I can do a better job and had haters come at me for that lol. But this proves it!
@brokenhub7656
@brokenhub7656 3 ай бұрын
I sent coins to NGC to be cleaned and graded. They sent the coin back as an AU58. Broke out of holder and sent back to get better grade and it came back as cleaned.
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 3 ай бұрын
🤣🤣 go figure
@wildwild9926
@wildwild9926 5 ай бұрын
Wow, I learned something here today. Beautiful coins.
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 5 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@someguy782
@someguy782 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for doing these videos. Everyone else just hints around about it or cuts out the part where they show you how to do it.
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! I just wanted to give it a try and share the results 😁
@ericdawson845
@ericdawson845 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your documentation - similar to my experiences. You may also try ammonia (clear) and experiment on some coins you don't care about. Especially nickel or copper-nickel. My best was an ANACS 66 to PCGS 69PL on a 1980 0.500 gold Panama coin...
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 5 ай бұрын
Dang! Nice upgrade!
@jonathans1472
@jonathans1472 2 ай бұрын
Dang, nice coin!
@davycrockett4395
@davycrockett4395 4 ай бұрын
Man we appreciate your time, money and effort you've put into this. I've been waiting to see a video like this for a long time. I personally don't clean my coins however you've found a way to beat the system to a degree 😂. You might want to be careful the tpgc might put a hit out on you. Awesome video!
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 4 ай бұрын
Haha well if they take me out I hope I become a saint to the coin world for becoming a coin martyr 🤣 P.S. I am not suicidal 😆
@davycrockett4395
@davycrockett4395 4 ай бұрын
😂
@alfster1969
@alfster1969 5 ай бұрын
Excellent video, you did an awesome job! Thanks for the excellent information!
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 5 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@chrisb.h4605
@chrisb.h4605 5 ай бұрын
Those cleaners are not for copper .. fine on gold and silver .. but apparently when conserving copper coins .. the grading companies use some other stuff ... Copper is a very tricky substance... after using even copper cleaner it turns them a pinkish colour...
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 5 ай бұрын
I did use it on copper in another video. It passed inspection however I wouldn’t use eZest on copper for the reason you stated. I do use ms70 and it doesn’t seem to change its color.
@sob1994
@sob1994 4 ай бұрын
I've used Coin Care & Verdi-Care on cooper and had really good results.
@iamgabriel5823
@iamgabriel5823 5 ай бұрын
Cautionary note: The E-Z-Zest will etch your stainless steel sink.
@scotts1356
@scotts1356 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I found that out really quick!!
@jcpicks
@jcpicks 3 ай бұрын
Never use MS70 or EZest on circulated coins. These products predominantly work well only on uncirculated coins. If you see a blast white VF coin, that is an immediate tell to graders that it has been cleaned.
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 2 ай бұрын
True
@EricDawson-qc6ui
@EricDawson-qc6ui 4 ай бұрын
I like the term "conserve" which really doesn't have a bias to it. BTW, I had one modern gold coin that went from ANACS66 & after conserving with ammonia (not for all coins!) went to PCGS 69PL! I don't understand the bias against ANACS as if they are not perfect certainly represent a viable option.
@michaellooney1089
@michaellooney1089 4 ай бұрын
FAKE 'grading'!
@rayneaukongak
@rayneaukongak 5 ай бұрын
I just got a ddo fs-103 kennedy back in 67 I used ms-70. And I use it regularly
@rayneaukongak
@rayneaukongak 5 ай бұрын
Keep the videos rolling bro! HAGD!
@bgs9man
@bgs9man 5 ай бұрын
Great job and nice video.
@AB-vc7ox
@AB-vc7ox 4 ай бұрын
ultrasonic might not be a bad idea either, suspended in a baggie full of clean solution. that and a blast of steam is used to clean accumulated crud off of jewelry, one just has to know which gemstones can't handle that kind of abuse.
@jaylegendre6563
@jaylegendre6563 4 ай бұрын
Ty for the lesson. Appreciate you brother
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 4 ай бұрын
Ty for watching
@EricBynog-zd4rd
@EricBynog-zd4rd 5 ай бұрын
This video is just stating the obvious we have all known this for years now don’t leave it in to long or dip more then once got to be careful a lot times coins have been dipped before then you dip it again and it turns out to be one to many dips but people have been doing this for long time
@ozzycoins
@ozzycoins 19 күн бұрын
The key to pcgs is bulk submissions, but do keep in mind some higher grade just get graded with average grade in the lot.
@KClivlaughlove
@KClivlaughlove 5 ай бұрын
Ok, first I want to say I absolutely love your videos showing that coins absolutely can be "restored " without creating or causing damage to the point itself. I see so many discussions on this and the negativity towards it that it's become at a point to where nearly makes me sick. Then you have those that are trying to clean them with things like ketchup and toothbrushes and toothpaste and so on and so forth that also makes me sick! Anyhow the reason for this comment is because I realized that you are into the high dollar coinage and can obviously afford to do so however for those of us that do coin roll hunting and things of such nature and pennies nickels dimes quarters 50 cent pieces and the modern dollars which are obviously mostly circulated when you're doing wild hunts like that and I would absolutely love love love love love love to see a video of your cleaning excuse me " restoration " to the circulated more modern cornage found in the wild and or circulated as referred to. I believe I've watched all of your videos regarding this subject and have yet to find anything where any type of modern circulated coinage found in the wild... For example '70s pennies '80s nickels '90s quarters you get the idea anyways I would love to see even just a short short video of you doing those type of coins for those of us that can't exactly afford to even purchase a single Morgan let alone several. LOL
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching! So for anything post 1964 using metals like zinc or nickel in the composition, basically all the modern stuff, I have used MS-70 to clean them and have no received details graded. I did use eZest on a copper penny in another video and it makes it more pink than red and I was concerned but I also did not receive a details grade from ANACS. I worry about eZest on Pennie’s tho. Just because of the color change. It makes it suspicious to me. I am not really into modern coins but if I ever do a cleaning on one to send in I will definitely do a video for you! Thanks again!
@KClivlaughlove
@KClivlaughlove 5 ай бұрын
@@rockysramblings wow! I am so impressed with you! 1) I didn't expect ANY reply, let alone so quickly! 2) I love how you show true CARE for your subscribers thoughts and suggestions. Even those of us not so fortunate as yourself! THANK YOU, YOU'VE MADE MY DAY! I too used eZest on a copper and it did the same thing, pinkish and ugly! Oddly, both acetone (pure), nor eZest made any changes to the (clad) state quarter, (clad) National Park quarter, (clad) Kennedy, nor to the Sacagawea! Not a single change...positive or negative. I would love that, IF you ever do any cleaning on anything more modern, such as is in "today's" back rolls, pocket change, ECT. I'm otherwords, cheap. LOL (forget the zinc, they are worthless and fall apart without doing anything with them lol) but like for example I'm trying to put together a state and national Park complete P&D set (clad)
@duanedas5346
@duanedas5346 5 ай бұрын
Omg look how dirty that Q-tip is just from that one side......ty I all ways like learning new things
@Rex-pn6eu
@Rex-pn6eu 4 ай бұрын
I recall that not many years ago the grading services would notate cleaned on the holder and not assign a grade
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 4 ай бұрын
Yes. They still do. If they can tell if it’s been cleaned
@kenmiller4229
@kenmiller4229 4 ай бұрын
I agree Pcgs just wants you to pay them 300 a hr to do it that’s all it’s about I believe
@spyder8986
@spyder8986 5 ай бұрын
Good job Rocky.
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 5 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@jmartinez5638
@jmartinez5638 4 ай бұрын
Quick question, if there's a scratch on the coin and you do this, would it make the scratch look like a brand new scratch and give it away as recently cleaned?
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 4 ай бұрын
I am not sure. None of these coins are flawless, but If it’s a big enough scratch they’ll call it details/scratched anyway.
@MM-cp4mi
@MM-cp4mi 5 ай бұрын
Excellent
@WMBisme
@WMBisme 5 ай бұрын
congrats. ive been curious on how people restore coins
@bgzwlz5119
@bgzwlz5119 4 ай бұрын
I just got a bunch of coins including Peace & Morgon SD’s from my mother that were my father’s. He passed away 40 years ago and I didn’t even know they existed. Anyway, I’m so confused trying to figure out what to do with them so I started watching videos. I was thinking of starting by going to the library and use the “red coin book” to get an idea of value, and then maybe pursue getting them graded? ANACS has a deal at $14 per coin for 10 coins and they are in the Chicago area in August. This video seems to show that cleaning the coins might not be the best plan because PCGS didn’t grade one of your coins and gave it a cleaned designation?
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 4 ай бұрын
The coin they graded as cleaned was heavily worn and PCGS will pretty much give a cleaned grade to any coin they see some lines on without considering if it was normal wear or not. The others were in uncirculated condition. The easiest research you can do is to assume a grade and then check eBay for the values. If you think it’s worth it then maybe get them graded. Usually if they aren’t in high grades they won’t be worth paying to grade. Or you could take them into a coin shop and have them look at them but beware if they seem too eager to buy them off of you. Even a worn coin on certain dates can be big money.
@walterswanson3867
@walterswanson3867 5 ай бұрын
Useful information. Thanks
@Chucka10
@Chucka10 2 ай бұрын
I usually have a sink of hot water to rinse, I find streaks don’t form later in the slab.
@cardaveux
@cardaveux 5 ай бұрын
Grading coins by PCGS Europe (is located in Paris) is very expensive where i live (i live in Switzerland). At least 100 swiss francs. That's why i don't do it.
@martygreen9714
@martygreen9714 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the education
@kevinhoock9742
@kevinhoock9742 5 ай бұрын
Great info
@VegasStacker702
@VegasStacker702 Ай бұрын
I did a science experiment a LONG time ago. I boiled potato's in a pot of water then used the water to clean metals. Worth a shot?
@dimension2788
@dimension2788 4 ай бұрын
❤Interesting stuff!
@johnmcneely813
@johnmcneely813 Ай бұрын
I gotta tip that works better than buying a microscope. An iPhone 12 and up. The magnifier feature has three component. Super, super zoom, contrast and picture lock. Wanna talk catching all hidden details? Trust me you can’t go wrong
@frankartale1026
@frankartale1026 5 ай бұрын
There is no reason cleaning them should hurt the value. I cleaned all mine the same way.
@jonathancrocker366
@jonathancrocker366 16 күн бұрын
Bruh, I hope you're not messing with me... ima definitely try this on a couple of Mercury and Barber dimes... nothing too, too rare.
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 11 күн бұрын
Yes I should have said that I wouldn’t do it on a coin that isn’t a higher condition. If you send a very worn coin in and it’s shiny and bright it will raise suspicions.
@annc3543
@annc3543 4 ай бұрын
Oh mine!! ❤
@ehrenkrause9861
@ehrenkrause9861 5 ай бұрын
8:59 wow that's a huge difference it'll be interesting to see how they score
@Fredrikbornagain
@Fredrikbornagain 3 күн бұрын
Baking soda poured on the coins with aluminum sheet in under and water. What would happen?
@noozienomore
@noozienomore 3 ай бұрын
I was gifted 30+ silver dollars... mostly Morgans and a few Peace... by my wonderful grandfather when I was just an infant. As I got into collecting in my 20s, I discovered all but one were common dates and circulated. I used silver polish bought in the grocery store to shine 'em up, including the one coin that was the exception--an 1895-S Morgan. I had a coin shop I had a relationship with send it into PCGS for grading. This was maybe 25 years ago, give or take a few. The two substances you used either didn't exist then or were unknown to me. I was gobsmacked when it came back an XF-45... no "cleaned", no details. So go figure, eh?
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 3 ай бұрын
Nice! Well done 😁
@sd4013
@sd4013 Ай бұрын
I read the no cleaning requirement.. one of my silver half commems had my thumb print on it and I can see it's still there in the slab. I was wondering if they would give it a wipe but nope.. rules are rules apparently.
@acousticshadow4032
@acousticshadow4032 5 ай бұрын
Hope PCGS never sees this video & makes CLEANED notes on those verification #s.😵
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 5 ай бұрын
They’re too lazy to do that
@acousticshadow4032
@acousticshadow4032 5 ай бұрын
@@rockysramblings ~ Hope PCGS never sees your followup comment calling them LAZY. 🙃😂
@ralphl8055
@ralphl8055 5 ай бұрын
Having them cleaned. They look good but the dirt makes it look original.
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 5 ай бұрын
I like toning but not a fan of dirt or crud on them 🤷🏼‍♂️
@HanstheTraffer
@HanstheTraffer Ай бұрын
I experimented with some silver dollars (not valuable ones) I cleaned them and made rainbow colors on them with a butane lighter. They came out looking REALLY impressive. But I ended up selling them for scrap silver price. Tell me what you think.
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings Ай бұрын
Yeah they look cool but usually they’ll receive a questionable color rating if you sent it in for grading
@followedd
@followedd 4 ай бұрын
Greetings Great video. Thanks! Have you ever tried BU PLUS?
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 4 ай бұрын
Nope. Never heard of it 🤔
@followedd
@followedd 4 ай бұрын
Good morning. Hope you’re doing well. There is a video on this platform named “BU Plus Residue Remover and Brightener Instructional Video” It’s a good one as well. I’ve used this product and works pretty well. However, it can’t remove carbon spots as the its creator or the product says. Thanks, and have a great day!
@stevenwaldman1908
@stevenwaldman1908 4 ай бұрын
1899 is a great score especially cracking from accugrade
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 4 ай бұрын
Yeah I was pretty happy with it!
@RESlusher
@RESlusher 2 ай бұрын
I'm just getting started in collecting Morgans. I don't understand what the problem is with cleaning a coin. It's not like you're going in and electroplating it or something.
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 2 ай бұрын
It’s a widely held belief that if it’s cleaned it’s damaged. Thats why I did the experiment. To see if I could clean it without any visible signs of damaging it which would give it a details grade
@Chris-ch5nb
@Chris-ch5nb 5 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@morgansinner
@morgansinner 5 ай бұрын
Good deal ! You know what's coming from the naysayers now... "That'll never get past CAC" 😆 I just ordered a bottle of MS70 to give it a try. I've tried ezest, and you are so right, it can fubar a silver dollar if left in too long. It gives it a dull ,off white color and takes away any semblance of cartwheel affect. I'll be happy to take that other 94 off your hands 🤗 Enjoyed the video 👍👍
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@beastmodeforever86
@beastmodeforever86 5 ай бұрын
Never clean or dip or use anything on copper coins
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 5 ай бұрын
I used MS70, acetone and eZest on Pennie’s in another video. I thought the eZest would come back cleaned but they all got a straight grade to my surprise.
@omarperich1560
@omarperich1560 Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing GOD Bless you
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings Ай бұрын
You too
@EricBynog-zd4rd
@EricBynog-zd4rd 5 ай бұрын
And my first question is why have a circulated details 1894 Philadelphia in the set just to have one it’s does not make sense to just have a coin in there don’t think it benefits you to have a details coin in set just very confusing most people who put coins in set registration are trying to build the number 1 set
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 5 ай бұрын
I doubt I’d ever get the #1 set of Morgan’s. I don’t have that kind of money. I do it just to have a complete set. Even if it’s cleaned. It’s a key date 🤷🏼‍♂️
@marvm9908
@marvm9908 3 ай бұрын
I will only use ANACS. It is totally fine to preserve coins. Using a grading system to intice you to pay them for preservation is B.S.. Almost demanding you to use the service they provide.
@beastmodeforever86
@beastmodeforever86 5 ай бұрын
That 1894 was already cleaned before you dipped it
@imakefights
@imakefights Ай бұрын
I think that it has been long known that you can dip uncirculated Morgans and peace dollars and get straight grades from all the grading companies. This is not surprising or any kind of revelation.
@erichansen3641
@erichansen3641 4 ай бұрын
I noticed that you clean your coins with only 1 end of a Q-tip. That one Q-tip end gets very dirty. It appears that you are spreading that filth/dirt all over the surface of the coin evenly. Is that the idea? Does that help to maintain a look of originality? What would be the result if you used a clean end of the Q-tip and dipped it in MS70 and then went over the surface of the coin with a clean Q-tip?
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 4 ай бұрын
The rinse gets all that grime off. If it gets really dirty I will swap ends. I’m just trying to make the most of the Q-tip. There’s no strategy behind it. That MS70 is slimy and somewhat thick so when you rinse it off you can feel the slimy stuff on the coin and I keep rinsing it until I don’t feel the slime anymore. Also why I use warm water to help rinse the slime off.
@TheStobyReport
@TheStobyReport 4 ай бұрын
You’re seriously over estimating the “one or two pounds” of force you’re using on the swab. I couldn’t get to 3/4 pounds before breaking a swab. One or two ounces is even on the high side.
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 4 ай бұрын
Well I didn’t use a scale. But I’m not applying a whole lot of pressure. I’ve seen videos where people say to roll it across but it’s im trying to make the point that it can be dragged over the surface without marking it. Dragging cleans it a lot better than rolling it.
@watertowerkennelsp7866
@watertowerkennelsp7866 Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing‼️‼️‼️
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@jondinan268
@jondinan268 2 ай бұрын
About 30 years ago I purchased a 1906 proof Indian head penny graded proof 55 harshly cleaned graded by ANACS recently submitted to PGCS and graded proof 61
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 2 ай бұрын
Interesting
@ChuckyMcNubbin72
@ChuckyMcNubbin72 2 ай бұрын
Works well with MS grade coins but not so good with circulated coins.
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 2 ай бұрын
You don’t want to make a heavily circulated coin look super clean. It’s suspicious.
@gordenkelly-favell4663
@gordenkelly-favell4663 22 сағат бұрын
He USED THE SAME DRITY Q TIP WITH OUT CHANGE THEM 😅
@arjenisaracena9515
@arjenisaracena9515 2 ай бұрын
Hello! Is it just me or did the 1890-O lose a grading? In the beginning of the video there's a paper grading on top of the coin that shows MS64. Then later PCGS gave it a MS 63 grade. Was the MS 64 grade just a projection of what the final grade hopes would be? I ask because i have a few coins i was thinking of sending in to restore and grade. So now finding this video i might try restoring myself in a similar fashion. Thank you!
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 2 ай бұрын
It was cracked out of a less reliable grading companie’s holder. That’s probably why.
@arjenisaracena9515
@arjenisaracena9515 2 ай бұрын
@@rockysramblings OOhh ok i see. Thank you!
@bgzwlz5119
@bgzwlz5119 4 ай бұрын
So why do you clean your coins other than they are more pleasing to look at, and it would save you some money from having someone else/grading company clean them? Does it make the coin more valuable?
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 4 ай бұрын
Eye appeal can increase the value of a coin. Besides I just figure if it’s going to get encapsulated it may as well look its best
@hectorsanchez3003
@hectorsanchez3003 4 ай бұрын
I have a 1891 morgan proof cameo ms 64 that has a lot of Haziness on the reverse. Would you recommend sending it to pcgs for restoration, or should I try restoring it myself.
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 4 ай бұрын
Are you sure it’s a proof or a DMPL? I’ve used this process on proof coins as well.
@hectorsanchez3003
@hectorsanchez3003 4 ай бұрын
Yes, it's a PR64CAM. After watching your video, I'm considering cleaning my coin myself and sending it to PCGS for raw grading. However, I'm concerned that it might be returned without the cameo designation or be graded lower due to cleaning.
@johnness9891
@johnness9891 4 ай бұрын
Do it Urself, I've Paid, alot toget them cleaned by A Profesional , An U can Do it just like in this video, Use Distilled Water to Rinse Off An A soft Microfiber Towel, Very Softly. U can Get the SAME RESULTS LIKE IN THIS VIDEO..ESPECIALLY THE EZEST CLEANER AND THE MS70, NOT SURE ABOUT THE ICESATONE STUFF
@Rex-pn6eu
@Rex-pn6eu 4 ай бұрын
You double dip?? The dirty q-tip back in the MS-70? What!
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 4 ай бұрын
It’s okay, it’s still using the same chemicals. It loosens debris from the surface. The rinse is what really gets it off.
@mbrown5494
@mbrown5494 Ай бұрын
Everything is subjective. Especially with a grader at a grading service. Sometimes it's unfair, sometimes they miss things. You use PCGS and NGC not because they "grade better" but because of their reputation. That reputation provides a badge of it's value monetarily. Thats it. You want to sell? The market will choose a reputable grading service over others.
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings Ай бұрын
Reputable but is it deserved?
@mbrown5494
@mbrown5494 Ай бұрын
@@rockysramblings In reality, no. But reputation goes a long way. So effectively yes. People buy things, especially expensive coins, if they confident in authenticity.
@SlotHits777
@SlotHits777 5 ай бұрын
Wonder how that would do if laser cleaned
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 5 ай бұрын
🤷🏼‍♂️
@a.k.7116
@a.k.7116 26 күн бұрын
Good job
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 24 күн бұрын
Thanks
@michaellooney1089
@michaellooney1089 4 ай бұрын
You're only ever meant to handle a coin by its EDGES!! Cowboy!
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 4 ай бұрын
Why does it matter? If I can touch them, clean them and send them to PCGS and get the grades I was shooting for….. then why? Where’s the logic?
@michaellooney1089
@michaellooney1089 4 ай бұрын
@@rockysramblings You're American, that's why! You clowns ALL use that PCGS 'slabbing' crap, with FAKE 'grading'!! Why do you want to take ALL the character out of your coins?? I own a superb Uncirculated George IV 1824 Shilling with the most beautiful BLUE toning - why would I want to CLEAN it!!?????
@michaellooney1089
@michaellooney1089 Ай бұрын
@@rockysramblings Typical American clown!
@ScottThofern
@ScottThofern 2 ай бұрын
I would use the word "conserved"
@davidpeterson9062
@davidpeterson9062 5 ай бұрын
Last time i used a q tip on a morgan pcgs coin came back cleaned. M
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 5 ай бұрын
My guess would be that the coin already had cleaning marks. They are extremely picky about any lines. They don’t take the time to determine if lines are from cleaning or wear like ANACS. Either that or you pushed too hard. I barely apply pressure. Or whatever you cleaned off scratched it in the process.
@koobecafdeteled5139
@koobecafdeteled5139 5 ай бұрын
Those chemicals are doing a number on your fingers.
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 5 ай бұрын
I’ve had far worse
@johnhodgson4216
@johnhodgson4216 Ай бұрын
Would you also clean the rim of the coin to have the same color?
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings Ай бұрын
Yes I do clean the rims however they don’t usually clean up as nicely as the faces due to the reeding
@BrooksLandscaping
@BrooksLandscaping Ай бұрын
Thanks for the content. It's amazing! Is there a best way to send in 40 Morgan dollars in bulk that are in bu condition at the best price to PCGS? Trying to figure out how to send a coin that's worth $70 ungraded to PCGS in order to see if it grades high without losing money lol
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings Ай бұрын
If it’s only worth $70 then it really isn’t worth it when you consider all the costs. If it isn’t worth at least $100 I wouldn’t send it unless you just want to for the heck of it. You might want to talk to a local coin shop and see if they can send them in for you. Sometimes they have bulk deals with pcgs.
@Mark-sy2bx
@Mark-sy2bx Ай бұрын
Why weren’t they graded cleaned if they were cleaned?
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings Ай бұрын
That’s the point. They don’t know it. It was an experiment to see if I could clean them without being “caught”.
@SilverStakzNGatz
@SilverStakzNGatz 4 ай бұрын
Great video, I just subscribed
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@TobaccoRowe1960
@TobaccoRowe1960 5 ай бұрын
I'm not even going to comment this time.
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 5 ай бұрын
You just did
@TobaccoRowe1960
@TobaccoRowe1960 5 ай бұрын
@@rockysramblings No a comment would include words like NaF Sodium Fluoride and Polymers.
@robinalexander5772
@robinalexander5772 5 ай бұрын
Try metholated spirits to dry coin, instead of clothes, apply with cotton bud. Cheers Robin
@ofeliaesguerra9173
@ofeliaesguerra9173 Ай бұрын
What are you using to clean them? What solution is that?
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings Ай бұрын
MS70 and eZest
@Edrop-sj3vx
@Edrop-sj3vx 5 ай бұрын
Polishing compound and a microfiber towel
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 5 ай бұрын
Never tried it
@painmt651
@painmt651 4 ай бұрын
If you want to ruin your coin…
@t.lnelson908
@t.lnelson908 3 ай бұрын
Eye agree with u on cleaning or restoring Eye myself use tarnx silver cleaner Then use a little dish soap with warm water to remove all the tarnx It doesn’t remove the cartwheel or luster And really improves the eye appeal of the coin Give it a try
@lpandy21
@lpandy21 5 ай бұрын
Did PCGS force you to insert that long disclaimer in the video description?
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 5 ай бұрын
No. I don’t even know what it says. I use Chat AI to write a long description that has keywords in it 🤣
@kennethmanning1821
@kennethmanning1821 Ай бұрын
Sir i cleaned old pennies do u think they lost value ?
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings Ай бұрын
Depends if they are visibly cleaned
@oldmanpatriot1490
@oldmanpatriot1490 5 ай бұрын
first coin, there is a D stamped in the R
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings 5 ай бұрын
🤔 care to elaborate?
@oldmanpatriot1490
@oldmanpatriot1490 5 ай бұрын
@@rockysramblings What is there to elaborate on? there is a D stamped into the R on the first coin you showed. I dint know why its there.. you are the one teaching people about coins so I pointed out my observation to get the expertise opinion as to why. But it was really just a blanket statement observation rather than a question. whether you care to know why or nor, Is not on me. its not my coin. Maybe a security detail? who knows but Im not going to lose sleep over whether or not I know why there is a D stamped in your coin.. Hows that for elaboration.? Half the time these get deleted anyway.
@oldmanpatriot1490
@oldmanpatriot1490 5 ай бұрын
@@rockysramblings What is there to elaborate on? there is a D stamped into the R on the first coin you showed. I dint know why its there.. you are the one teaching people about coins so I pointed out my observation to get the expertise opinion as to why. But it was really just a blanket statement observation rather than a question. whether you care to know why or nor, Is not on me. its not my coin. Maybe a security detail? who knows but Im not going to lose sleep over whether or not I know why there is a D stamped in your coin.. Hows that for elaboration.? Half the time these get deleted anyway.
@stephenking9789
@stephenking9789 Ай бұрын
oof u scrubbed that ms 70 for a hot minute
@rockysramblings
@rockysramblings Ай бұрын
Scrubbed sounds so aggressive. I’m barely applying pressure. It’s not as bad as it looks 😅 a light “brush” sounds nicer haha
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