Rodgers is ahead of Mahomes for MVP, Russ is NOT on the map - Marshall | NFL | FIRST THINGS FIRST

[@FirstThingsFirst]

Who will win MVP this season: Aaron Rodgers or Patrick Mahomes?

[@aydenconner7]

Aaron Rogers probably

[@lanafelix8649]

mahomes

[@swiftslick]

Rodgers. He has less to work with than Mahomes.

[@FireballStylist]

Mahomes!!!!

[@elvinamckinney2375]

Correct can anyone tell who in history has better TD to into rate then a rod

[@Deuce1042]

Nick Wright is incapable of being objective about Mahomes or the Chiefs.

[@jg7102]

As you are incapable of being objective about Nick Wright.

[@marcusrozsa3488]

He had the audacity to include Aaron Jones in the same conversation as Travis Kelce/Tyreek Hill 😂

[@Blove1025]

Yeah I mean he is the 4th leading rusher in the entire league and didn’t even mention that Rodgers is passing behind the best oline in football this year, like I get the chiefs have well rounded weapons but stop disrespecting aaron jones lmao the man is a great nfl rb rn.

[@marcusrozsa3488]

@@Blove1025 yes he’s a great running back. What he isn’t, is an amazing pass threat like both Kelce and Hill.

[@Blove1025]

@@marcusrozsa3488 I could make the argument that davante Adams is either one their level or arguably better than them

[@Blove1025]

And Aaron Jones is also pretty good out of the back field lmao, responsible for nearly 1400 yards and 10 tds so I still don’t wanna hear the bs weapons narrative lmao.

[@Blove1025]

Say what you want about kelce and hill but Ik this, Alex Smith had both for 3 years and couldn’t even get 1 playoff win...

[@Stan3853]

I love Nick but he has no objectivity when it comes to the cheifs

[@michaelsloane9955]

I'd rather my quarterback lead the league in touchdowns than in yards.

[@patriciahenriquez6693]

Same! GPG

[@blick5511]

I'd rather have my QB win more games and be the defending champ

[@StatusQ_]

Mike Blick and have better weapons and defense

[@miguelforte7034]

I agree

[@AirJonahProd]

@@blick5511 Last time I checked Mahomes has 16 dropped interceptions and there’s 52 other people on an nfl roster

[@Udisared]

Does this guy a Nick Wright even watch full games. Rodgers is playing some next level football these days, Mahomes just hasn't been on the same level at all these last two months

[@adrianbuck8772]

Mahomes has a very good season with some not so good games. Still Rodgers season is better. Simple as that. Not that difficult to understand in my eyes.

[@SmittyCity15]

Rodgers got the MVP cleaned up

[@fromdowntown6666]

Nick really wants to compare davante and Aaron Jones with hill, Kelce, Watkins, Hardman, CEH, Levion Bell, Eric beenemy, Andy Reid, and a top 10 defense woooow💀💀💀💀

[@abc_12333]

I agree with the exception that Leveon Bell is better than Aaron Jones.

[@blick5511]

Lmao what do yall think Watkins has done this year....some of you casuals need to go look at the numbers. MVS has more yards and TDS than any of the Chiefs receivers besides Hill. Lazard has more yards and TD'S than Watkins....

[@blick5511]

And Jones is 4th in the league in rushing. Bell is 64th in the league in rushing. Again y'all just name names for the Chiefs without realizing that these guys haven't chipped in much

[@timocruz510]

Okay let's not get carried away. Davante is arguably better than either Kelce or Hill. Jones is solid. Watkins been out and the Chiefs OL isn't nearly as good as the Packers. I agree with ur point, but let's not exaggerate stuff to prove it.

[@buzzerbeater9828]

@@blick5511 Because Watkins got injured... idiots like you copy and paste the same talking point which is just incorrect. The Chiefs have a reliable defense and the best tight end and arguably the best receiver in the game. Rodgers has the highest passer rating(shows he has the highest efficiency) and it’s not even close. He has 6 more TDS and one less interception. Also Rodgers is much better in the Redzone

[@unholydiver1095]

"Mahomes should win cause the Chiefs have a better record due to them having the better team" Yes but isn't the MVP an individual award, not a team one??

[@Blove1025]

If there’s no Mahomes it’s no chance the chiefs are 15-1 lmao. Y’all just don’t wanna admit that giving Mahomes another deserving mvp in his 3rd year of playing because it would only bolster his resume by that much more into being one of the greatest QBs ever in the fastest period of time. His team is 14-1 for Gods sake and have won 23 of the last 24 games dating back to last year, since when do QBs not get most of the credit for producing wins? Not to mention if you actually watch the chiefs games this year, it’s Mahomes making the game sealing plays week in and week out. Rodgers is only getting the nod now based on sympathy from fans everywhere cause GBs front office has constantly hoed him year after year.

[@calebcicero7727]

@@Blove1025 Mahomes tried to lose that game Sunday 2 dropped picks in the 4th QT

[@Blove1025]

@@calebcicero7727 okay so now we determining awards on what ifs? Cause did Rodgers not have 2 ints in the bucs game in a blowout loss?

[@vinnythewebsurfer]

@@Blove1025 that’s just wrong. Mahommes is the chiefs key to winning in the playoffs but the fact of the matter is that the team overall is too good not to make the playoffs. Alex smith looked really good before Mahommes took over. Remember how they kept winnning takes last year despite Mahommes missing games?

[@blick5511]

@@vinnythewebsurfer Alex Smith had different people around him and won a different way....the Chiefs were more of a ball control offense. That has nothing to do with Mahomes winning by leading the #1 total offense and #1 passing offense, something Alex Smith never came close to doing. They won 2 games with Matt Moore. That's not much of a point.

[@calvinherrington8172]

At Rodgers age (37) & all the talk the past few years, saying he’s washed up: He deserves the award

[@StatusQ_]

Also he’s just played better

[@buzzerbeater9828]

This happened to Tom Brady when he was 36. The two greats have similar narratives

[@matthewdennis1739]

Rodgers has been quantifiably better. More TDs, fewer INTs, higher QBR, and so on. I can see making the team winning comparison if it wasn't close, but it's only a 2 game difference and MVP is an individual award.

[@diegothesituation]

Aaron Rodgers MVP

[@adrianbuck8772]

Nick can scream all he wants. The MVP isn't about the best player but the best season. That's why MJ and LeBron don't have 10+ each. Amazing take from Westbrook.

[@brigitte9999]

Then Mahomes wins because he has the best record.

[@adrianbuck8772]

@@brigitte9999 Mahomes has atleast 3 wins where his offense scored 22 points or less in 4 Quarters (Falcons, Broncos, Chargers). Rodgers has 0. I don't give Mahomes much credit for that.

[@blick5511]

@@adrianbuck8772 the Chargers have the 9th best pass D and the Broncos have the 12th best pass D. Rodgers led his offense to 22 vs a bad Vikings D. That loss is on him. The Bucs loss is on him. 2 turnovers vs Indy prevented the from outscoring the Colts. Mahomes doesn't have any of these games on his resume.... Mahomes has 1 loss by 1 posession and they needed 40 and 500 yards to beat him.

[@blick5511]

@@adrianbuck8772 Falcons game, Andy Reid calls a ridiculous trick play and Samny Watkins throws an interception when the Chiefs are driving to score. That's not on Mahomes. Bringing up the Broncos game and the Chargers game just shows you are looking at game logs and not really looking at context. Mahomes had 350+ total yards and 2 scores, was the leading rusher for the Chiefs vs LA. He carried his side of the ball. Same thing vs Denver, 340 total yards and a score, limited help from his running game and 40+ pass attempts.

[@adrianbuck8772]

@@blick5511 Rodgers had a 110. 9 rating in the Vikings game. 27/41 for 291 yards (7.3 yards per attempt) 3 TDs, 0 int. He did his part. Dalvin Cook ran for 163 yards and 3 TDs on 30 carries (almost 4.5 yards per attempt) for the Vikings. That's why the Packers lost.

[@yeathatsGOTTI]

Nick act like all his takes are more grand than everybody elses!! He forgets Chris Carter use to have him up there on hush mouth, now he be carrying on like everybody else takes are just ridiculous... He was making lil under the breath remarks & faces the whole time Brian W. was talking, like pipe down man...

[@starkiller578]

Lmao I miss Chris carter

[@DisappointedNotMadSunsFan]

Not a Rodgers fan and I love Mahomes, but Rodgers is playing the best football right now. I think Patrick is a better player but the better season as it stands goes to Rodgers

[@elenakhoo1637]

I am neither a fan of Packers and Chiefs but come one Nick. Rodgers should get the MVP. Nick is not being sports analytic but more like a Chiefs fan when they have to discuss the Chiefs. 🤷 Nick should be banned from talking about Chiefs on the show just like Shannon should not be talking about Brady and Skip about Lebron James.

[@jonathangardner8306]

Rodgers is significantly beating Mahomes in every single passing stat except yards, which is also the most meaningless. What is Nick talking about? It's Rodgers and it is not close.

[@HochgeborenKlown]

Chiefs win because Mahomes drives them to wins, without Mahomes the Chiefs are not contenders...Packers win because of Devante Adams, without Rodgers the Packers would still be winning...Mahomes is undoubtedly the MVP of the league...

[@jonathangardner8306]

@@HochgeborenKlown Lol, what? Without Rodgers, the Packers would be lucky to win a game. The Chiefs without Mahomes would not be good but they would be lightyears better than the Packers without Rodgers. This might be the single-worst argument anyone has ever made for Mahomes. Yikes.

[@HochgeborenKlown]

@@jonathangardner8306 According to you it is the single worst argument, but your mind is closed and has no capacity to see beyond your already preconceived non fact based opinion...Also, it is pretty easy to pad stats considering the level of talent GB has faced this year...They have actually only faced 3 quality opponents and lost to 2 of them...The Chiefs have faced 5 quality opponents, all on the road and beaten every one of them...Mahomes had his worst game of the year against ATL and all of a sudden people like you are saying he is not MVP worthy...He still brought the Chiefs back to another win...Rodgers is 2nd in the MVP...

[@jonathangardner8306]

​@@HochgeborenKlown I don't have opinions; I have facts. Believe me, I am no Rodgers fan but the facts are this: Rodgers has statistically lapped Mahomes. He plays on a worse team. He has this team in position to be the 1 seed in the conference. This team cannot function without him and the Chiefs can function without Mahomes. Disparity in opponents, which isn't nearly what you claim, cannot explain Rodgers' statistical lead. Mahomes has been great and it isn't his play per se that has changed my mind. Rodgers has simply put been on another level than everyone else. I make my judgments based ONLY on facts. I NEVER, EVER rely on preconceived notions, unlike you. Nor do I rely on subjectivity, like you do. I only go off the data and the data says that Rodgers has been markedly better. I mean, if you're only argument is SoS and claiming that literally every other piece of data is a lie because of that, you're the one with preconceived notions driving your opinions.

[@HochgeborenKlown]

@@jonathangardner8306 Hiding your preconceived opinion behind a WOT changes nothing...Calling your opinions data based judgements does not make them so...

[@teej7777]

Someone needs to tell Nick what happened when Macklemore won his Grammy

[@Ninjachickenfingers]

The award will go to Rodgers because all people ever look at is TD and INT. That’s it.

[@ch33seweasel42]

Nick Wright: The MVP doesn't automatically go to the best player, it goes to the best performance throughout an entire season. It's clear it's Rodgers. You're just a biased hack if you think it's Mahomes.

[@TheKylore]

Aaron is 36 yrs old leading in Touchdowns, Passer rating, QBR, and has the least interceptions. He has less weapons and his organization drafted a backup quarterback after being in the NFC championship game. I'm done having this conversation. 🧀☺

[@renren225]

This isnt even a debate its Rodgers. He leads in almost every stat.

[@ionianatlas7037]

Nick constantly embarrasses himself . He has very little NFL knowledge but thinks he's God's gift.

[@stonecold5373]

Rodgers has won his third MVP. Congrats.

[@ITzAboutTiime]

Wow Nick this the first time i think he really Wrong SMH...he said steal ...wow AARON RODGERS deserves this MVP smh

[@tiyanu]

Ayo I know this definitely won't happen y'all but if Russell Wilson throws for 500 yards and 6-7 tds with 0 picks would you think he's the MVP? Just wondering.

[@jasongross9756]

I think Brady should be in the conversation

[@davidbalber4887]

too many picks and he has more weapons than Mahomes and Rodgers put together.

[@banks7714]

Hey Nick, Mahomes isn't the reason they are 14 and 1, it's kelcie, he is the MVP of the chiefs, he bails Mahomes out on 3rd and long time and time again, Mahomes can't even cover a spread, take Rogers off the packers they aren't in the playoffs, take Mahomes off the chiefs they are still in the playoffs, Mahomes is so careless with the ball if the opposing defenses could catch balls thrown right to them he would have 12 picks this year, to quote you nick, Rogers is the MVP "and it ain't even close"

[@DarkDevastator77]

The discussion aint playoffs for the Chiefs tho. Its about repeating as Champs and if you take out Mahomes they never see a Superbowl again

[@banks7714]

@@DarkDevastator77 it's about MVP and Rogers is more valuable to his team than Mahomes, take Kelcie off that team right now and they don't have a chance in the playoffs

[@blick5511]

A tight end is more valuable than the QB. Probably one of the dumbest takes of all time

[@banks7714]

@@blick5511 watch who gets the ball on 3rd and long nearly every time guy, the ONLY one getting open, the ONLY one who can't be covered and his football IQ is higher than people give him credit for, without him the chiefs lose many of the last 7 games bc that guy is a drive extender not this QB who runs around and throws the ball up and is lucky to not have 12 to 15 picks this year, get off Mahomes jock bud

[@blick5511]

@@banks7714 stop being a dumb hater bud. Yeah Kelce is great and valuable, but so is Mahomes and the way you're talking about everything is wrong lol

[@sjw4life546]

I wish the Texans had a better record. Deshaun has 4,400 yards passing, 30 touchdowns, six interceptions, a 70% completion percentage and a passer rating of 112.1. But the only numbers that matter is 4-11

[@jonathanleggett236]

Deshauns good his team is just terrible because Bill O brien was a terrible gm. Hopefully the Texans get back on track next year and improve in the off-season because Deshauns a great player and one of my personal favorite players

[@ProPlayPhocus]

Tired of quarterbacks being the only ones talked about for MVPs

[@rickyromero600]

Bro, Nick is so bias for Mahomes it's ridiculous, same with Lebron. How is Rodgers still not the clear cut MVP in his eyes? Dude should get checked for bringing his feelings into every take. Anything Bron/Mahomes related throw it out the window because you already know what he's going to say lol

[@slimelifeshun3017]

exactly and i love lebron

[@LepWho]

Patrick Mahomes has more yards and yet he and Rodgers average the same yards per attempt, Rodgers has more touchdowns, Rodgers has less interceptions, Rodgers has a better passer rating, Rodgers has a higher QBR, Rodgers has a better completion% (70.6%!!!!)... I'm sorry, but it just doesn't make sense to go with Mahomes over Rodgers at this point

[@blick5511]

Rodgers put up the numbers vs weaker pass defenses. Mahomes faced more good defenses and played better vs winning teams.

[@JaLav9]

Y’all out here disrespecting Aaron Jones he is top tier but Aaron Jones is a RB while Mahomes has pass catchers...

[@MrCliffordcacho1994]

Its funny that nobody notices that mahomes is play worse towards the end of the season. If it wasn't for his receivers getting open I don't think he'd be in this MVP conversation

[@brodyd8922]

Mahomes is top 3 in every category? How about 16th in completion % and Rodgers has better numbers everywhere except yards

[@CoachTerry803]

Derrick Henry is getting overlooked and underrated. Without him that team is 🗑 KC has enough weapons that an average QB would still be successful. Rodgers has a better case than Mahomes

[@billbond2045]

Not with the Chiefs online titans have no defense get up few tds you take Henry out of game not a big factor

[@wyattps4440]

Big Ben shouldn’t even be in the graphic. Was never in the discussion

[@calebcicero7727]

So what is Mahomes doing better than Rogers this year?

[@blick5511]

Playing better vs winning teams

[@davidbalber4887]

@@blick5511 playing worse against losing ones

[@trilljj]

Nick would make the argument that Lebron needs mvp when he was in Cleveland and didn’t have help because if you took him out they wouldn’t even make the playoffs. So why can’t he give that some recognition to Rodgers ?

[@jonathanjames-patterson5403]

Aaron Rodgers is the MVP...

[@dennisgeorge3238]

after 15 games Rodgers leads QB's in QBR..TD's only 5 interceptions...and passer rating...very easy call...Rodgers is clearly the MVP...Nick cant handle the truth!

[@calebcicero7727]

It’s Rogers and it’s not even close He leads in TDs less picks and a better QBR Mahomes could have thrown 3 picks and lost the chiefs the game last week if they weren’t just straight up dropped

[@FireballStylist]

Let Rodgers have his MVP!!!😜 Mahomes is going for that Superbowl MVP. 😁

[@OhhWillyy]

Westbrook > Brandon Marshall

[@fourdubzero7644]

Roethlisberger over Brady? C'mon man. Brady should be 5th rn after the last 2 weeks. Granted he has no chance to beat out A Rodg, Mahomes or even Josh Allen.

[@aydenconner7]

Why not Russ... i don't think he'll win it bc Rogers and Mahomes this season 😳 but Russ needs to be like number 3

[@SmittyCity15]

Sorry man, he burned out Josh Allen number 3

[@hops2099x]

I’d rather have my QB lead the league in Wins... offensive stats aren’t just a measure of you, they’re a measure of the defenses and key players you face. Mahomes is the better player and MVP period.

[@shastamarckerman]

But when Mahome an plays bad and his team still wins, then doesn't that mean he's not actually all that important to his team, Rodgers plays bad and they implode and play terrible, then that makes Rodgers more important than Mahomes, it's MVP not best Player

[@blick5511]

Mahomes "bad" games look different from other guys bad games. That's why the Chiefs still win.

[@brigitte9999]

If Mahomes had lost his game Brandon’s argument would be valid but...

[@arod927-01]

Aaron Rodgers is the mvp

[@joeysmith5767]

I remember Mahomes throwing 3 picks a couple weeks ago. He's so overrated

[@johnkirk1772]

3 picks and won.. most valuable when your team can overcome 3 picks like no problem - nah it's rodgers this year

[@blick5511]

Yeah it's not like he had 400 yards of offense and 2 scores also. Totally carried by his team.

[@joeysmith5767]

@@johnkirk1772 Rodgers is playing better no doubt

[@joeysmith5767]

@@blick5511 his receivers are open by 5 yards all the time. Just sayin

[@buzzerbeater9828]

Idk about overrated. I think Mahomes is better but Rodgers is playing better this year

[@rickyromero600]

"They're stealing the MVP from MY guy."

[@scottkellogg2180]

Nick is fried.

[@fromdowntown6666]

Nick whright is the worst sports analyst of all time

[@jordan4657]

Take Rodgers of the packers they might win 5 games. Take Mahomes off the chiefs and they still a playoff team

[@alexhill9825]

Have you seen KC’s oline or defense? Take Mahommes off that team and they may win 5 games.. Green Bay also plays in a trash division

[@HochgeborenKlown]

you got that backwards

[@jordan4657]

Those weapons don’t lie. Alex smith was great for them. Matt Moore went 2-1 in 3 games last year 3tds no ints oh and they also got the greatest offensive mind of the last 15 years. Packers are 28-30-1 without Rodgers all time. They’ve taken him for granted unlike the chiefs w Mahomes

[@HochgeborenKlown]

@@jordan4657 Still does not make Rodgers MVP over Mahomes...

[@blick5511]

@@jordan4657 so you think the Chiefs would be a playoff team because Matt Moore won 2 games without the offensive line issues the Chiefs are having this year? Makes no sense

[@calebcicero7727]

The cheifs are 15-1 cause Mahomes can throw 3 picks and win Also can only put up 17 points and beat the ravens or throw 2 dropped picks in the 4th and win

[@Heephop86]

Nick looking like such a clown here. Also, is it just me or does he think his takes are on another level than everyone else’s ?

[@chessmyantidrug]

I love how Brian Westbrook asks everyone to compare what Rodgers and Mahomes did against Atlanta, but doesn't bother bringing up Tampa. That argument is inherently flawed. Aaron Rodgers is going to end up winning the MVP because he HAS to play next week and Mahomes will not. It will take another performance like he had against Tampa to sway people back over to Mahomes. It's a joke Derrick Henry is even being considered.

[@musicindustrydrama838]

Rogers Mvp

[@devinstallworth1558]

Kamara

[@unholydiver1095]

listen to lil wayne nick

[@jeroglow99]

It’s ok, Pat Mahomes will still likely win the SB this year, but Rodgers will win MVP. Hoping for a Mahomes v Rodgers SB matchup

[@kylecrossley2773]

Mahomes is 15-1 end of discussion MVP

[@brigitte9999]

Mahomes, has lost only 1 game. I think that qualifies him as MVP! Isn’t that the point?🤔

[@luckyluke1503]

He is also playing with best WR and Best TE in Football.

[@arod927-01]

You have to be joking

[@luckyluke1503]

@MMA MMA Devante missed 3 games and was not himself for 2 weeks after he came back.

[@blick5511]

@@luckyluke1503 they became the best at their positions with Mahomes, another point to Mahomes value. People act like Mahomes isn't elevating the Chiefs and he's just along for the ride when he's the leader lol

[@luckyluke1503]

@@blick5511 You know Andy Ried made it to SB long before Mahomes and had won most of his game before Mahomes right? You also know The Chiefs were a great team before Mahomes and were basically in the playoffs every year right? Now if you look at Tom Brady and NE,It’s different. Patriots had missed the playoffs in 1999 and 2000 and Bill Belichick was garbage as a HC and the very first year Brady started playing they went on to win SB. In his first season. And that is the true GOAT.

[@friendlywinston]

I’d rather have my quarterback named mahomes....

[@GovenorMcLovin]

Mahomes will be SB MVP again do it doesn't matter.

[@banks7714]

🤣 they aren't making the SB bud, the luck of the last 7 terrible games against sub par competition or hurt teams is over once the playoffs start

[@Shane-db5bc]

Come on ware is Josh Allen he just got 4 Touchdowns and broke Jim Kelly’s leading touchdowns wake up

[@lanafelix8649]

mahomes is mvp if you define the mvp he helped chiefs pull out wins which they nearly lost thats my mvp

[@adrianbuck8772]

How about his defense? Against the Falcons, Broncos and Chargers it was a good defense game and a bad offense game.

[@blick5511]

@@adrianbuck8772 same argument for Rodgers vs Carolina, and probably more teams if I felt like looking it up

[@blick5511]

@@adrianbuck8772 Also he had 350 and 340 total yards vs the Chargers and Broncos....350 is a bad offense game for Mahomes, dude is on a different level then

[@adrianbuck8772]

@@blick5511 Mahomes has also 40+ pass attempts in many games. The leader in passing yards are the QBs which the most attempts.

[@adrianbuck8772]

@@blick5511 Packers have 3 games below 30 points on offense. Chiefs have 6.

[@benmyers3971]

I want Mahomes to get it. The MVP never wins the super bowl.