Roger Waters on War, Peace, and Music

A webinar hosted by World BEYOND War on August 8, 2022, with Todd Pierce and David Swanson moderating.
Sponsors:
Project for the Study of American Militarism,
World BEYOND War,
Women Against Military Madness,
CODEPINK,
Veterans For Peace,
Andy Worthington,
Mondoweiss,
Just Peace Advocates/Mouvement Pour Une Paix Juste,
Antiwar.com,
RootsAction.org,
Canadian BDS Coalition,
UNAC,
Twin Cities Assange Defense,
Canadian Foreign Policy Institute,
DC Action for Assange.

[@injujuan8993]

Thank you, Roger and the hosts❤❤❤! Your voices do matter and are heard. I thank you so much for everything you do ❤❤❤✊✊✊

[@Moteridgerider]

Managed to listen in on most of this live, and now following the catch-up. So great to hear Roger speaking eloquently at the age of 78. Also heartening that he hasn’t lost any of the fire in his belly.

[@andiman45]

next month 79

[@Craigevansagain]

I would listen to Roger Waters all year if I could.

[@martinnickelberry5242]

01:10 Introduction 01:50 How was title chosen? 07:13 Importance of communication 08:17 The ruling class 09:18 William R. Polk 11:40 Julian Assange 12:16 Bruce Gagnon on Ukraine 13:13 MSM propaganda 15:24 China 20:00 Geopolitical war 20:46 Palestine 23:00 American exceptionalism 25:00 Waters and Palestine 31:58 Heroic actions of Assange 36:10 US & Canadian audience response 39:27 Young musicians 40:56 Spotify 42:40 "Us and them" song 44:30 "Amused to death" 30th Anniv. 46:48 Blockade of Cuba 48:30 Sources of news 53:47 "What about China and Russia?" 56:08 Recruiting other celebrities 59:29 Equality and sharing 1:01:11 Climate 1:05:35 Hawaii and NY missile alerts 1:07:45 Arming of Ukraine 1:10:28 How to avoid despair 1:15:22 Joe Biden 1:17:47 Performing in Middle East 1:18:33 David Gilmour's sanctions 1:20:29 Jeremy Corbyn 1:23:25 Educating children 1:32:32 Conclusion

[@dinoyuan1574]

Saw the interview. What a brilliant guy he is. Absolute legend. A true humanitarian.

[@johncarlson5611]

Don’t listen to the Gurus

[@inkscopez6070]

@@johncarlson5611 I get why people's first thought are to disagree with roger but if you listen to his message at it's simplest form, it's to love each other and to give power to the people

[@mikedavis1517]

Such a great discussion, Go Roger!

[@ZuShin]

I would love to see Rogers show brought to Australia, if possible. The Australians really need shaking up about what's happening to thier fellow Australian citizen. Roger would really put the LOUD hailer to them where our Australian Prime Minister will not 📢 free Assange ✊️

[@ga5782]

He won't bring his show to Australia because there's no money in it for him. What a piece of crap this old man is. This 78 year old Blowhard would play a show in Palestine if he could make money. Play a free show there waters. Then we'll be impressed

[@traiangogusorca9294]

Thanks Roger Waters, and thanks guys for the show ! Brilliant 👏

[@gerry4281]

I hope the younger generation pays attention to your message. Great that you are still performing and spreading the truth. I’m 70. My son played your music as a teenager and reintroduced me to your music. He played bass and I took up acoustic. We both had our music lessons at the same place. Bonding. Thankyou.

[@CloudNumber23]

Wow! Simply wow! Thank you very much, Mr. Roger Waters! I wish there were more smart and reasonable people like you in this world! Heartfelt greetings from Russia.

[@joeking433]

"Greetings from Russia". LOL!

[@CloudNumber23]

@@joeking433 Peace and love to you and your home.

[@joeking433]

@@CloudNumber23 Smoochie smoochie.

[@thomaswayne1852]

This man just spoke MY mind. Thank you. Best wishes.

[@jaspercollins7005]

I completely agree, Roger is a true foreign policy expert. We are lucky to have his voice, infused with wisdom and authenticity. "We all are equal in the end."

[@Ruouiji]

Great interview! Roger is one of the brightest minds in history, and the world is listening!

[@carolspence6675]

Appreciate Rodger truth speaker

[@thebarehandsdoctor2769]

I am so happy there are still some decent people like your channel and Roger Waters, keep up with your good work and Roger Waters' music , to promo Love and peace, not war. Please Roger come to China tour concert with your band, Chinese love you so much.

[@daerganguy7504]

I have never appreciated an aged Rock Star like I do after listening to Roger. God Bless you Roger Waters! You are a humanist, an artist, a blessing, a wise man and a WORLD CLASS TREASURE!! THANK YOU FOR THIS!

[@derekorford1964]

Roger's the consummate media thorn, and you just know any cash from interviews goes straight to charity. He doesn't fit on any news outlet because he's going for truth. I don't agree with all he says, but the main thing - listening to, and caring for one another - Roger is a wake up call. Pink Floyd were the Prog band whose expertise was restraint. Thus everything they did was thoughtful, careful, and respectful to the audience. Roger ain't Gene Simmons. Anyone who comes up with 'Hanging on in quiet desperation is the english way' is well worth listening to, and truly alive. Roger cares about people, be they his audience or not. I hope he lives to 180.

[@catharinavervoort1986]

What a great man!👌

[@GabrielleVaucan]

Merci 🙏 Roger Waters pour votre engagement sans faille contre la guerre, pour la paix, et la justice dans le monde. Merci pour votre support à Julian Assange. Merci 🎗aux organisateurs. Paris 🇫🇷 FRANCE.

[@Kamelzenniaofficial]

Thank you RW.

[@rodgerasai]

I remember the "get under your desk" drills. In grade school I believed their main goal was to train me how to best protect myself in the event of a nuclear attack. Eyes (and mind) opened wide later when I learned that it was just so it would make it easier (in combination with the school's seating charts) for cold, disingenuous leaders to identify the bodies.

[@suzetteanne]

Roger Waters is a legend. He has given us wonderful music over the decades! He is very talented, handsome and a true humanitarian! Thank you for having this interview and uploading it to KZbin.

[@jamescameron277]

I see Roger Waters as one of the few heroes of our time. We need more like him, without question. His heart is in the right place, and he's able to spread the message through his music and through his voice that the thing that truly matters, isn't all the corporate greed, and prejudice, and hatred that our leaders keep pumping out to us through their propaganda and war efforts, it's humanity and love that truly matter; that's besides him being a musical genius. Something I've noticed about Roger now, as compared to Roger back then, is that he now has just as much criticism and anger for the democratic party now, as he always has had for the republican party here in the U.S. I think the reason for that is obvious, and I have to agree.

[@dontaskmewhy100]

Roger Waters is great. Bono is the opposite.

[@erikleenhouts834]

Thanks Roger, and thanks guys! 🤟

[@NTJ891]

Roger with your political views all I can say is Shine On You Crazy Diamond

[@colorado17634]

Power becomes a virtue only when it is used to do good things. Roger is a great man with an enormous heart and he knows how to use his power, not like so many other famous actors and artists that prefer to lie for money, causing more damage then actually fixing what's happening in the world.

[@craigwillms61]

Good Lord!!! Who decides the "good things"? Your Mom? your teacher? Joe Biden? Adolf Hitler? What a stupid thing to say.

[@davidaustrian9455]

Roger waters tells it how it is. It is very refreshing to see. I hope he comes to Australia with his tour. I will be in the front row.

[@averayugen8462]

IM HERE TOO and the system has been locking me up for 50 years and more. Makes me MORE determined to be heard. And hey Roger I heard your LP "More" in Toronto in 1970 and now I know you are much MORE than than the garden variety rock bands...KEEP WAILING!!!!!!!! BREAK OUT ASSANGE!!!!!! by the way if Rolling Stone is not based on legacy artists (the stones) then close it down. Music and politics are from the sixties and so is ROGER WATERS. YEA!!!!!!

[@lavenderzeppelin6067]

Rodger is on it. Broadcast this until it's acknowledged

[@ronpconte]

Roger....A Breathe of Fresh Air....in a Sewer of a World....

[@wesleywoo1257]

I'm a new Roger Waters and Pink Floyd fan. Ever since the interview with the CNN host where Roger spoke truth to power, I've been listening to his music and political views.

[@bartugaykan3850]

Thank you! Great work!

[@janstergaard703]

We desperately need more artists like RW !

[@gerry4281]

Brilliant. Thankyou for this.

[@hsingkao2024]

Roger Waters knows much better than most “China vs Taiwan” experts.

[@stansquires4069]

I am from Vancouver,Canada and i wanted to say that US Imperialism hasn't changed since the 1960s. At the present time there is a proxy war been waged by the US Gov't against Russia. This war was started in 2014 not last February.Although most people in Canada and the USA don't know that.That is a problem. and if people don't have a political conscience then they will never get the truth about it.The same goes for China.Taiwan is part of China and China got the right to put a stop to US interference in that part of China. People in Canada and the USA don't know that Taiwan is part of China. People should know these things so that the US and Canadian Gov'ts can't take people for Fools. With regard to Palestine the BDS Movement has been doing a good job in exposing Israeli Apartheid. A lot more people around the world now support Palestine and ignore the Zionists saying that criticizing Israel is anti-semitic. The Gov'ts of Canada, USA and Europe support Israeli Apartheid. They have been condemned around the world for that. There can be no peace with Israeli Apartheid. The majority of people in the world support the People of Gaza in their fight to be able to travel outside Gaza and the Blockade of Gaza by Israel.Israel is a manufactured country by the USA.If the USA stopped giving money and Arms to Israel. Israel wouldn't last a week.Because of that Israel shouldn't be recognized as a country. From the River to the Sea Palestine will be Free!

[@rezakarampour6286]

Search . ' Col Richard Black : US Leasing World to Nuclear War '

[@mikearchibald744]

Politics is complicated, which is why war is seen by almost nobody as a solution. EXCEPT those in power, because its VERY useful for them. But don't mistake canadian media, which is VERY narrow, at least as narrow as the US, as 'what canadians think'. I talk to canadians about politics all hte time, and I do more listening than talking, and I'm always impressed by how much average people have taken in DESPITE the media filters. For Israel thats cut and dried. Thats out and out imperialism and i"ve only really seen diehard israelis support them, or the far right, which thinks that anybody WITH power must have god on its side (ironically they don't yet have power, but also think they have god on their side). But who Taiwan 'belongs to' should most definitely be up to the TAIWANESE. Likewise Russia claims (and in part rightly) that eastern Ukraine speaks russian and 'should be' part of Russia. They held a referendum, which obviously was garbage, so you get international organizations to come in and hold a FAIR one. Ironically Canada has some experience with this, with the Quebec Referendum, but there was also one in the Czech Republic before separation, which was handled by international organizations with no ties to the region. Likewise who Caledonia belongs to should be up to them. And yet western nations SUPPORTED Spain in throwing in prison people who had done NOTHING more than try to organize a fair referendum. So thats the west for you. But also Russia, who set up a referendum as botched as the one Germany held to 'claim' that Austria was part of it. Why almost NOBODY wants to see this is that obviously once you start allowing referenda on separation, people will say "wait, why don't we have MORE referenda, then that way we can stop some of the problems that lead up to why we want separation in the first place". And ACTUAL democracy is something NO power base wants to see, for fairly obvious reasons. Finland and Switzerland are now, I think, the only two countries with Citizens Initiatives at ALL levels of government. The US has about half the states that have them, while in Canada Alberta got it last year. How much the establishment media hates democracy is obvious from the fact that that is likely the BIGGEST political change in the country in decades, and yet its NEVER in the media. The day after they brought it in some media mentioned it, being careful to couch it in terms that made it seem like not a big deal and most canadians likely don't even know what they ARE. But its never been reported since, not even in Alberta.

[@arletteyildiz9366]

@@mikearchibald744 You are correct about Switzerland - we are launching 2 initiatives: 1 regarding putting a clear definition of neutrality into our constitution (we should never have supported the sanctions against Russia!) and 1 staying free from the involvement of organisations like the WHO.

[@perseapolaris9015]

Roger , I love you. Je suis totalement en accord avec vos opinions ..!! Ce monde fou mené par une poignée de puissants nous mènent à l a ime.! Je vous embrasse si vous lirez un jour mon message 💖✨💎

[@sarahduffey69]

I love Roger Waters! Thank you so much for everything you do. I took my kids to see you in Minnesota this year and they loved all of the concert!!! Thank you for bringing awareness to all Americans. I have loved you since I fell in love with Pink Floyd at 15 in 1995. The truth is so important to break through the propeganda and I suffer with both of my parents who are brainwashed by it. It’s almost unbearable when I just bring up that the US is never innocent in all of this and the other horrific things that continue to go on. But after listening to this I will try again. In 2007 my brother and I had 2nd row seats at the Dark side of the moon tour and haven’t missed one of your MN shows. ❤️ Roger I would love to see you on Joe Rogan, your minds seem to be in sync and it will help you get your message out. He did bring you up on the Tim Dillon episode and they played your edited version of the CNN version. I have seen the whole clip too. The truth is so important and we are not getting it. I love independent news media and we need all of it.

[@PEdulis]

Thanks for the interview. I look forward to seeing "This is not a drill" live here in Europe.

[@rezakarampour6286]

' Veterans For Peace channel '

[@billy8649]

What a Legend!

[@johnbolger2625]

Thank you Roger. Thanks to this channel. Subscribed

[@pauldudakadanielthomson8890]

Thirty some years ago a movie called Rude Awakening was or is similar to what is happening here. This guy is great and not burned out. I'd like to see any of the anti-war and past progressive U.S. hippie era musicians come forward and take one last stand against the overwhelming on purpose injustices going today. Roger Waters is getting it DONE and waking us up about how close we are to nuclear war.

[@GriefTourist]

I wish this man would live forever he is irreplaceable.

[@andrewedwards8238]

Brilliant. Once again.

[@FloydGuy1980]

I am producing a retrospective film on Roger Waters. Could I please ask permission to maybe use a small clip of this film? Kind regards Barry

[@ashrobinson4604]

Love to Roger Waters. I agree with so many of his views about world politics, but I do think he is wrong about Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and his pro-Putin stance (if that is his position rather than a pro-peace position). Russia has failed to develop as a democratic state, unlike neighbouring states. Russia resorted to violence rather than pursue communication. That said, Roger Waters is an important voice in present times that everyone should listen to and give thought to his ideas with an open-mind. COYG (sorry, a bit tribal)!

[@indigal1720]

Bollocks. Tell that to people who are fighting in Donbas today. Both sides don’t wanna fight because they don’t agree with what’s going on. Putin is considered a liberal president in Russia and he’s definitely not handling the situation as tyrants would handle it. Have you talked to at least one Russian who lives there? Most of them will agree that he could’ve done a better job but he has few soft spots. He believes in free market, equal rights, neo liberal economy and bs like that. But both governments knew that they’d go to war back in 1991 simply because they couldn’t figure out how to form the post soviet countries and share their territories equally. This is not putins agenda, this is just a crisis for two neighbors who couldn’t divide the resources and land. You can look up the videos where the president of Ukraine and many Russian diplomats say this all will end up with war. Just know that while the west pictures Putin as evil tyrant by it’s propaganda, most Russians (especially the left) believe that he’s not tough enough. Anyway… Americans know better what’s best for Russian people ☹️

[@ImpetusOmnipotens]

So many things wrong with what you said, as the previous comment says, bollocks. Putin desperately tried to pursue conversation it was America that didn't want to listen, Roger is right about that. If only the US government didn't act like they are the masters of the world and like the cowboys that they are and actually sat down and considered Russia's worries and demands this could've been avoided. All they had to do is meet the Russians in a dialogue as equals but we all know the Americans are unable to do that with anyone, they always have to be on top and dictate the terms. On another note, if you think Ukraine is a democratic country you have another thing coming.

[@markwelsh9068]

"Russia has failed to develop as a democratic state..." Made me laugh for so many reasons!

[@ashrobinson4604]

@@markwelsh9068 Good! Thanks for the intellectually empty statement. You did yourself proud!

[@slavicakovac764]

BRAVO ROGER. ❤️👏👏👏

[@Madonnalitta1]

My dad passed his love for Pink Floyd to me. Waters is astute as well as talented. Just more bricks in the wall.

[@Emerild]

The audio is amazingly low, even at max setting.

[@davidevans6618]

Money doesn't care who lives or dies, only that it be served.

[@jayfrank3084]

we all need to be ACTIVISTS!

[@bcadams75]

Brilliant 👏

[@davidevans6618]

Even the great Roger waters might have missed that, but it's all over his messaging, including the music. The Wall is our servitude to inanimate objects other people control.

[@Puppetmastersfool]

Panem et Circensus, the games aren't so much fun when the bread runs out, winter is coming.

[@rainmanjr2007]

Roger is against war and mistreatment, in general, but has a habit of calling out the wrong side. I'm sorry to read he's done it again but that's his right and Roger's music is still great. David Gilmour/Rick Wright had something to do with the Floyd years but Roger's solo career is also great stuff. I agree with his humanity and intentions but disagree with details that determine his allegiances. He isn't ignorant of politics, however, and does make me think.

[@Paulshaggy]

Crazy how he's really passionate about truth. To anyone who's interesting about what he's saying about Ukraine-Russia history i'd recommend watching "Ukraine on Fire" and "Revealing Ukraine" documentaries by Oliver Stone, both are available here on KZbin for free.

[@markwelsh9068]

When something happens in your life where you recognise absolute deception within it and it impacts you personally, only then will you understand Roger's desperation and passion toward truth. He lost his father in WW2 and came to realise it was all for bullshit.

[@nicolettabernardi543]

#FreeAssange

[@petetatonks]

Brilliant

[@myleswalsh6854]

Strange that uttering the word ‘fuck’ is worse than commiting a war crime in american media SMH

[@markwelsh9068]

"Todd, cheer up mate, everything will be fine, it's only a webinar". I'd love to have seen what Roger did at that point since I did get the impression that this Todd guy was a little wound up.

[@jeanetteeastman1638]

Beautiful, thank you. FREE JULIAN ASSANGE!

[@samiware1704]

How can i communicate with Mr. Roger please???

[@ireneconstant913]

Listen to Sam Fender! He is on the ball.

[@samiware1704]

How can i communicate with you Mr. David Swanson ??? I am from Syria.

[@juancarlossaavedra6757]

@8:03 Roger say something very true.

[@barryslater8875]

So it's only the Gilmour/Samson 'Pink Floyd' albums the Russians can't stream now? Not missing out on much then! 😂

[@genenovak2717]

I love this guy, in a non sexual way, he says what we are all thinking

[@bohumirakaksova4961]

Roger Waters, bravo.

[@davidevans6618]

" All you need for war is three things, money, money and money " ~ Donald Trump He's right about that.

[@arno615]

This is a great man Africa's love u

[@samissomar]

There'll be no Nuclear War,this Planet Earth is too precious,it'll not be allowed to be destroyed by some Cabal Psychopaths,and Greedy Corporations...that's why we're not alone in this Infinite Universe,we're all being really watched since the beginning because we're acting just like children playing with fire,thus we've still a lot to Evolve in Spiritual Consciousness if we wish to continue living together on this Sacred Earth !...

[@archtitus3412]

Roger for an atheist you have many loving Christian qualities...

[@drewbacsi]

Roger, you can't appease tyranny. Go talk to Putin, I dare you.

[@andrew.6944]

👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

[@pierre-michelvirot8073]

Again Roger, you are a Great musicien, but as I wrote to you a year ago: forget to juge Israel just because you are famous. You think you know, forget it, just because you are proud to have been in the Territories. I’m not Jewish, I think all those religions especially Christian and Muslim as well as Jewish should give place to meditation and forget about duality. But when I hear you talking about Israel and the Jews, you are still under prejudice in your unconscious. I’ve been working from Morocco to Iran in more then half those countries, it’s all about having a universal view of things. Of course you think you better and you allow yourself to talk for hours. By the way I met Qaddafi in Nigeria in the early 2000 (Roll back malaria meeting in Abuja)

[@lavenderzeppelin6067]

Rant volume please

[@johnrambo6265]

rogar needs to look up the W.E.F................... climate change ......

[@davidevans6618]

Money communicates to us all and that's why it's fooked !

[@davidevans6618]

Money is the ruling class maker, the ruler of rulers of inanimate objects.

[@lindapow9351]

why not barricade the prison where Julian Assange is placed and bring all those Brothers and Sisters Together....Grande Concert...

[@r3b3lvegan89]

@ 1:28:00 the 2 Russians Roger is referring to is Visili Arkahpov and Stanislav Petrov. It will never not be absolutely hilariously depressing how many people don’t realize the hypocrisy of US politicians condemning other countries like Russia for “threatening nuclear launch” when the only country to ever nuke another country was the US TWICE and WE DIDNT EVEN ADMIT THE NUKE STRIKE UNTIL OVER A WEEK AFTER THE BLAST…….let that sink in y’all, not only is the US the only “nation” to drop nukes but wouldn’t even admit it globally until they saw fit too. That’s beyond criminal by a long shot.

[@revelry1969]

We wish the old Roger was here. He is going the way of Syd. Black holes in the eyes. I feel like he is off his rocker now. A multi millionaire arguing about the exceptionalism. He is on the dark side of the moon now

[@deewonders6959]

Your are way off.. Rodger is spot on 🎯

[@revelry1969]

@@deewonders6959 ok Q. He is off his rocker now

[@r3b3lvegan89]

Extinction rebellion is a clown org. They’ve done absolutely nothing to shut down any corporate monopolized owned governments which is the core root of the extinction were in and the source of all suffering and crime. “Either mankind will put an end to war or war will put an end to mankind” let’s not forget war comes in many forms, different battle fields. The mind is a battle field; the heart is a battlefield, and we need to retake that battlefield if humanity is to allow peace and harmony with nature and all life.

[@seichorn4079]

he is wrong about the 2 sets of rules in the US. the 2 sets of rules in the US are divided by wealth and power, not race. I know this because I lived this, here in the US.

[@seichorn4079]

he claims Trump is an idiot. he should give Trump credit for not being a POS war pig like the rest are. I just do not agree with his views on Trump at all. Id vote for Trump before Obama or Biden or Hillary, or the Bushes. hands down Trump is a better leader.

[@Benbenforever]

Of course everyone should communicate but the reality is that there are many who just don’t want to. Xi from China does not want to communicate, Putin does not, the rulers of Iran do not, and so on and so on. Do you honestly truly believe you can negotiate with these people. If you do why don’t you use your power and influence to meet them and see what you can do.

[@karapana8398]

helpful to read world socialist web site

[@KING_DAVID80]

Roger is definitely wrong about the black/white unequal rights in the US. It’s really a socioeconomic issue no matter what your shade is. Rogers song “perfect sense” describes it best.

[@guacamolekid3899]

The one guy who has the guts to stand up to the globalists and Roger hates him (assuming that he still hates Trump- if he doesn't then, nevermind).

[@nottingtohide]

Great Q's & A's session. We had drills in the 70's of getting under one's desk. Been on the London Underground when alarms were going off, announcer & message board warning 'this is a security alert! please evacuate the station immediately. This is not a drill, repeat, this is not a drill' then the message would repeat. People walked calmly without fuss out the station. Most times is was a hoax, coded bomb warning, or in some cases 'an actual device' in most cases made safe by the army bomb squad.' Only time it got scary was when they found a real bomb at Euston train station, police come running down screaming to take another exit & to avoid being near any glass windows. Agreed with everything Roger said. But, if he really wants to know the root cause of all the evil in the world, it's satanists and malevolent 'non-humans' running the show. Not religious..! but fully believe Jesus Christ is our Lord Father Himself, that He is coming back Soon!! Satanists & aliens know they've lost the war, so they are trying to take down as many souls as they can gather down into Hell with them, sore losers that they are. I pray to Jesus that Roger & the rest of the Floyd are saved & make it to heaven. Peace.

[@theGalacticZoo]

Some very good commentary; also Roger needs to back away from his camera. It's distracting.

[@AlvisCSmith]

Roger is good on so many issues, but wrong on Taiwan. Folks, do your research.

[@Fnelrbnef]

No Trump in this talk ?

[@kevin1244]

Roger, why do you make fun of Biden’s stutter? That bit was so disappointing.

[@lavenderzeppelin6067]

Yulin, China Terrible information for anyone

[@robfowler3758]

I guess Roger forgot that China invaded Tibet, killing thousands. And as for his stance on Taiwan, saying China has indeed always "owned" Taiwan, what about when he did his Us and Them tour in Australia and went on stage in an aboriginal flag? Seems he has also conveniently forgotten Taiwan's aboriginal tribes. Monsieur Standards Doubles. And his passion for Arabs in Palestine is a superb stance, but once more he forgets the Uyghur Moslems being persecuted in Xinjiang. Shame.... very inconsistent with those views.

[@vangelisgru7271]

Ukro nassis have him on a hit list now.. Jesus

[@nullifiednullifidian5973]

I'm done with being a lifelong fan of Roger's. His take on Ukraine and NATO, and the threat that Russia poses is quite ludicrous. *Put simply, if Russia stops fighting, the war ends. If Ukraine stops fighting, Ukraine ends; and Russia will take the next step in their march into Europe.* A person this blind to the real cause of suffering does not deserve reverence. Perhaps Gilmore has been right all along, Roger is the problem.

[@Hawijack]

Bollocks!