ROGUE FITNESS new equipment preview! 2023/ Arnold Classic Recap

[@RoryEllisMusic]

Great video! I’ve been waiting for someone to come out with a video like this for a while. Great work as always

[@MacStrengthCo]

Glad you liked it! this is a new format for me. Except my ranting Titan video which sorta came off the wrong way! ha ha.. More to come. cheers!

[@gregors00]

“Dads filmin bud!” “Yeah so, I do what I want bro!” 😂

[@MacStrengthCo]

lol.. I get maybe 30 mins "free" to try and film this stuff. lol. They still manage to find me.

[@GameOver321]

Nice video, love these new and upcoming home gym channels. I have nothing of rogue, everything I own in my home gym is commercial. Space is tight so if I could sell my lifefitness adjustable and ab bench and not sacrifice quality...I'm in. Curious to see how this would compare to the prime bench.

[@MacStrengthCo]

I've used life fitness's commercial benches and don't care for them. Very narrow pads and beveled edges are slippery compared to some of the Rogue and Rep benches. I think you would really benefit from checking them out. I'm a huge life fitness/precor fan too all our cardio stuff is from them. The grippy padding might not last as long as the slicker stuff but it's sure nice.

[@GameOver321]

@@MacStrengthCo awesome, thanks

[@glamaon]

That hybrid bar sounds like they wanna offer a texas power bar alt

[@MacStrengthCo]

When you sell every bar combo under the sun there's not much left!

[@HighSpinSwingSpeed]

The bottom hole on the dip bar is to store it on the rack where it doesn’t stick out as much. Not needed for actual use.

[@MacStrengthCo]

good info. I was wondering about that. Makes sense now thank you!

[@jimfy3357]

I'm interested in the landmine rack shown briefly from 4:11 to about 4:19. I don't believe you identified that piece of equipment. What is it called? Where can I get that?

[@andersonhirt]

Thats also a rogue piece. I think it's called an Indy landmine.

[@MacStrengthCo]

www.roguefitness.com/rogue-indy-t-bar-row

[@MacStrengthCo]

it's called the indy bar row platform. It's a little tricky to find on the rogue website. I linked it above.

[@garyhill1449]

I wish Rogue would fix the crappy SSB pad more like elitefts yoke bar that would be great

[@rodolfomedini9931]

Curious to know where to find information about the mutant metals resolution where do I find that? Glad rogue took over some of Kabuki's production wait times for them are unreal.

[@rodolfomedini9931]

Just saw the MM post on Instagram just hope they come up with a fair and equitable resolution. What personally bothered me about rogue was they attempted to patent the design, the only part of the design they can legally patent is the 7° handle angle change the rest was created. You can't patent something that exists already especially if someone else made it... It must be novel at least that was my understanding when I took intellectual property but that was almost 15 years ago. I am not a patent attorney or a patent agent so things may have changed.

[@MacStrengthCo]

It was posted on their IG page.

[@MacStrengthCo]

I think you are right!

[@dirtdog5045]

Can't wait for the new bench. I like the look of MM better, but to get the thicker handles, it makes it significantly more expensive. Also, I prefer a neutral grip. The interesting thing about that new 28.5 bar is that it's stainless steel and has a 10 on the Rouge F scale, which is higher than their bare steel bars. Their stainless steel bars usually only have a 2 on their F scale. I'm in the market for a new bench, so I'll be grabbing that for sure, and eventually, the new dip attachment.

[@MacStrengthCo]

cool! Good eye on the F scale. This may sound crazy but I've talked to owners of barbell companies and those scales are very subjective and more marketing than anything due to variation in the steel. Stainless isn't even stainless, it's a steel alloy for strength for example. let me know how you like the bench?

[@dirtdog5045]

​@Mac Strength Co. Will do, and I currently have the zero gap to compare it to. I'm curious now that you have the Irwin bench do you still get much use out of your other benches ? How much better is the quality of the steel, paint, and overall feel of the bench ? In other words does it feel significantly more premium to you compared to your rep benches ?

[@mgbaron]

I think the rogue can probably execute the transformer bar at a higher level. My transformer bar had lots of QC issues. Great idea, but hard to do well.

[@markhalstead2386]

It looks like Rogue has the sleeves inserting from the opposite side. That is better in my opinion as the top hole on my Transformer bar is finicky in getting the sleeve in as it is not exactly right. I think Rogues sleeves would be more rigid too with the pin.

[@MacStrengthCo]

Rogue's improving all the Kabuki gear in every aspect that wasn't quite perfect previously. I think your right with your assesment.

[@handcannon11]

They actually did update the Kabuki bar it's looks much better my transformer bar (v4) has issues as well

[@markhalstead2386]

I like Rep Fitness new Drop-In Dip Attachments. I think they are a better option on the rack, but a worse option for storing. I don't have them personally, but have thought about picking them up.

[@MacStrengthCo]

I don't have them and like you storage is an issue. Never enough room to store everything! of course we are a little over the top with gear aren't we! lol

[@GenXFitness]

I have them and they are an excellent product. I have the three tier Rogue Universal Storage System 2.0 with the flat top for Kettlebell storage, I store them there. It's not ideal but it works.

[@Justin-cy8is]

Just got my Rep drop in dip attachments, very sturdy, and I am glad I went with them over single post options and they're priced right

[@GenXFitness]

@@Justin-cy8is People don't know what they're missing.

[@richarddawson203]

What is that piece of equipment at 4:16? I’ve been looking for something like that for a while. Is that from Rogue?

[@MacStrengthCo]

www.roguefitness.com/rogue-indy-t-bar-row

[@MacStrengthCo]

its the indy bar row platform. It's a little tricky to find on the Rogue website. cheers!

[@gregors00]

Hybrid bar - bit weird, for people who want a non whippy DL bar maybe? 2X Aggro at home here in Aus (only one that’s all stainless in the country maybe? The local version has black sleeves or chrome). I love it. Boring end caps tho

[@MacStrengthCo]

The debate is out on it still. Other companies like Bare Steel and Texas offer a 28.5mm power bar so maybe Rogue wanted something similar?

[@r8der674]

Bench looks like a tank but too expensive. I might upgrade my Rep Ab5000 with the Blackwing. The Hybrid Power Bar I would get if they offer full stainless. I’m a fan of 28.5mm but aggressive knurl. I have both the Ohio Bar and Ohio Power Bar in stainless. I prefer to use the Ohio Bar but prefer the OPB knurl.

[@MacStrengthCo]

That is some good feedback. Bare steel makes an aggressive 28.5 also but not stainless. Let me know if you get the hybrid and tell us what you think.

[@mgbaron]

Are you going to do a similar video for the new rep releases?

[@MacStrengthCo]

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[@pob1845]

Very good review! Whats the song at the end? I would be interested in the woodway treadmill...although its 7k with shipping to Canada...I cant justify this to my wife! Velocidor, I would be interested but they would have to change the name...sounds like we are back the 90"s with jurassic park...nothing against the 90's they were good years! I would rather get it from mutant metals but I would get it solidly with customs fees, I dont know Rogue does it but their fees are mostly acceptable but I am trying send my business to IFS when ever possible!

[@MacStrengthCo]

Just some random song I found. The names make me feel old!😂. I have a package from Irwin in my truck now!🤔

[@pob1845]

@Mac Strength Co. im old too...thats fine! Yes...unpack it! Are you going to do a full unboxing video at the same time?

[@MrPanthers23]

The new dip bar is interesting to me. I would like to see the final update about how they aren't gonna screw MM first though.

[@MacStrengthCo]

ya I really like MM so I feel like I'm cheating on a friend buying the Rogue version but that rogue version has some nice options on it. From what I heard they are all good with their relationship.

[@DrDeusExMachina]

The manta ray is cool, but the Rep blackwing is just so much cooler.

[@MacStrengthCo]

I show case it today! stay tuned!

[@Voodoo1Six]

Tpb is 28.5 so I wouldn't say power bars are "normally" 29

[@MacStrengthCo]

Great point. I’m willing to admit I’m wrong but decided to let the people weigh and take a poll. Will let you know.

[@Voodoo1Six]

@@MacStrengthCo Haha! All good! Great channel man.

[@MacStrengthCo]

@@Voodoo1Six you got me thinking. It’s a good point. Appreciate the support.

[@Darkside_Strength]

I want to see the new pad be available on their 3.0 adjustable as well. I don't really have any interest in a decline bench.

[@MacStrengthCo]

Right. I wish the 3.0 was 12" wide. Odd Rogue went skinny on that pad?

[@billchurch4460]

I bet the new bench is going to be nice as *&^%. I have the AB-3, so I'm in no position to call someone an idiot for shelling out an absurd amount of money for a bench. For dips, I've been using a flip down safety and weight storage pins. It works fine for me and I have to think it's going to be much more stable than something that's attaching to a single post. Some different handle options, angles etc., might be nice.

[@MacStrengthCo]

Good feedback Bill. There's a lot to take in here with all this new gear!

[@jimj.9291]

My understanding is that the ladder system on the Manta Ray is UHMW as opposed to metal. If this is correct, it would seem not as durable as if it were metal. Hmmm.

[@MacStrengthCo]

Thats a good point. REP uses metal ladder system with a plastic spacer to not mess up the paint on the ladder. I wonder how long the UMHW would last?

[@keldsports8337]

Son wanted to get a few set of squats in 😎

[@MacStrengthCo]

lol! right.

[@DrDeusExMachina]

The rogue pad is different enough from the bulldog pad. For instance, you can do landline rows and t bar rows which is not an option with the bulldog pad. Contrary to rogue’s clear rip off of the UDA. 😂

[@MacStrengthCo]

O no.. let's not bring that UDA copy saga again! I think that consumed my media for a week solid. I agree different applications on the pads.

[@Rocket4ce]

That pad is a double, could have been a homer. That pad needs to swivel a minimum 270 degrees. I just bought the Bull Dog pad with the free shipping the other day.

[@MacStrengthCo]

Good feedback. How do you like the bulldog pad?

[@SmokinBuddha]

The rogue version of the Transformer Bar is better than the Kabuki Transformer Bar V4. If I didn't already have the Kabuki Transformer Bar V4 I would buy the Rogue version.

[@MacStrengthCo]

Your right when your right!

[@mistarmer]

Rogue is going in a strange direction.

[@MacStrengthCo]

they always have focused on the crossfit market mainly and price everything accordingly.

[@andyharrison2424]

The leg roller bench isn’t a new design, Rep have been doing it for years

[@MacStrengthCo]

Good point!👍🏻

[@stephencronin304]

Great summary. If this is the full extent of Rogue’s innovations for 2023, it’s going to be another very disappointing year if you have a Rogue rack and waiting for the type of innovations Rep rack owners have benefitted from (i.e. Ares, Athena).

[@andersonhirt]

I think Rogue wants to get more mileage out of their slinger ecosystem. They've got some similar stuff, but the level of integration Rep has is above and beyond. I'm not holding my breath for a direct rogue competitor (plus, it's cheaper to get a ups setup, and that doesn't limit your racks versatility whatsoever)

[@MacStrengthCo]

I agree with both of you. I've been looking to Rogue for some better plate lat/cable systems. The slinger drives me nuts with this inadequacies. Look to OAK CLUB for a new in rack cable system coming soon..

[@babygiantbarbell1014]

We now see why rogue historically names stuff so generically😅 Velocidor is pretty corny. I will reserve judgement, but these updates as a whole look pretty underwhelming. Also, congratulations on your recent PR pull, man! 505 is solid! Great stuff!

[@MacStrengthCo]

hey Thanks! 505lbs.. don't know why 500 is such a mental wall. The name reminds me of my kids nerf gun names! ha ha.

[@Aquefaque]

The hybrid bar is definitely a dent against TPB... 28.5mm and agressive knurling ;-) I own a TPB and I really swear by it. I love the huge sleeves and the knurl took a while to get used to it (almost thought selling it) but now... That's my favorite one. I always used an axle when I've been trying to spice up my deadlift, so for now, a 29mm makes no sense for me... There always had this debate between 29mm and the old 28.5 which one is better blah blah blah... And now that I see this, rogue is just telling people that's okay and we got a bar for this too... My guess is that TPB will have to release the 29mm version as a counterstrike. The new pad from Rogue seems interesting but it does make a lot.of sense in a homegym... Maybe in a commercial or collegiate place? Velicidor... Hmm no thank you. Too MM to my taste. The new bench seems really cool though... But I just got the new prime fitness one (the very new, so new it's not on their website yet...) so rogue will have to wait until I break that one before I upgrade. And I don't think the PF bench will break until I left it outside for 100 years and use some antitank bullets to show him who's the boss. Rogue is definitely taking a new path here... I don't think that homegym owners still make a lot of sense for them. I mean, this was a small part of their market before, not the main focus, but now I feel they are really "moving a bit away" from this... they always been the guys that makes commercial stuff that would make homegym owners drool over it... But now it feels like a statement.

[@DrDeusExMachina]

Is the prime bench compatible with the attachments of the current prime bench?

[@jonathantremblay3469]

@@DrDeusExMachina If I'm not mistaken, yes. There is new attachments too. :)

[@MacStrengthCo]

Great points.. I agree with you and Rogue is typical focused towards the CrossFit box gym where Rep is 80% home gym focused with design and pricing.

[@pwprochazka]

$1,000 bench? pass. I'll get a Rep bench even if most of my gym is Rogue

[@MacStrengthCo]

It's more like a $1300 bench!

[@ISWIMWITHFISH]

I think people should highly consider the elevated platform you showed as opposed to the copy of the bulldog pad. I think with that and Landmine work.. And you know, bent over rows being as successful as they are, it’s a waste of money. Manta ray bench is an expensive decline bench lol 😅😂

[@MacStrengthCo]

Well you didn't hold any punches! Straight talk right there. I'm trying to find a reason to do landmines again. ha ha