Rogue Rack Without the Price Tag? Bells of Steel Hydra Rack Review

[@GlucksGym]

What do you want to know and see when we review the Hyrda attachments?

[@jjp2759]

I have the seal row pad and a monster lite rack. The hole where you pin it to the rack does not line up. I am going to sand down some of the uhmw plastic and that should do the trick. Not really a complaint, but it would be interesting to note if you had a similar problem or if this is one of those quirks that happens when using another brand’s products on a Rogue rack.

[@fwiffo42]

I’m interested to see how well the seal row pad would work as a lat pulldown seat if you have something like the Slinger. I’m also interested in how well the lever arms work, especially since they’re one of the few I’ve seen where you can set a different starting angle.

[@chaosdisciple3052]

Very interested in their functional trainer, and whether it attaches to the Rogue monster light, since the Slinger is a little too expensive for me.

[@ExpeditionaryRanger]

How good are their roller j-cups!? A great Christmas gift idea... :)

[@1882dmac]

@@chaosdisciple3052 Oh I didn't think about that one. Yeah I would like to see that to.

[@dack981]

Just bought one of these based on this review. Only 3"X3" rack that was available below 85" height for my basement

[@jsedge2473]

The height option is great because extremely few companies actually offer a rack that short. If you have very short ceilings one of your few, or possibly only options for a rack is Titans. Now people will have BOS as an option.

[@GlucksGym]

Yep! Many companies have. Very dee options because it's less inventory and less modifications for attachments like a lat pulldown

[@plmn93]

I would gladly pay the price for an American-made Rogue if they made their racks as easy to customize as Rep or this one. But they don't. They don't even offer a lat tower. Rogue's arrogance created this opportunity for Bells Of Steel and it's nice to see them take advantage of it.

[@Thebodfitness]

Facts. They did it to themselves by not continuing to innovate.

[@ShawntreezyBreezy]

Crazy how this drops then I have all this stuff at my door, perfect timing 😉

[@shayallday5935]

Can't wait for you to show us your Hydra stuff 😉 bruh

[@bthanhim]

THANK YOU! I have the RML and have been waiting for 4 years for a company to do this

[@Rich33527]

I ordered the rack and sliding lever arms Saturday. Cant wait to get it. Im moving up from a true budget Amazon rack.

[@gurfdog]

I wish this was around 3 years ago! Another great review

[@GlucksGym]

Thank you!

[@loadiam]

Just bought a RML today (based in Europe), checked out an almost identical build on BOS to what I ordered. The difference was about $500 less than the Rogue quote but BOS don't ship to my country so made the choice easy. Let hope in the future if they offer shipping and I will have the option for some cheaper attachments from BOS range that fit my RML.

[@jbasanes2]

Great review! I purchased mine a couple days ago and based off your review, I think I made the right choice. BOS has awesome customer service! Kaevon and Marcus from BOS were super helpful and made the process easy. Nice work as always, Gluck!

[@Jeff-iz1ip]

Great review! Excited BOS has created affordable and quality attachments that I can incorporate on my Rogue ML Rack

[@HomeGymHacksandReviews]

Bells is bringing it! Good review!

[@GlucksGym]

Thank you! Yeah I've been impressed with their releases and upcoming stuff lately

[@scooobyj8714]

Bells and REP have made huge gains this past year.

[@GlucksGym]

Definitely putting some pressure on

[@mantequillas1278]

I have a rogue monster rack and its nice to have another option for rack attachments. Can't wait to see what they'll have to offer.

[@bobbyhunt3009]

Another Fantastic job Seems to me the only thing BOS lacks is different color options. At this point I must put BOS in the top 3 manufacturer's category (Rogue, REP, BOS) with Titan in 4th place as still the best budget manufacturer. My prayers are with U and your family.

[@GlucksGym]

Thank you Bobby. Appreciate that but we're doing fine.

[@raps7027]

An in-depth video as alway's Adrian. But the best part of the video was you doing front Military Presses with your spotter arms on the Power Rack. I have a rep fitness PR5000 power rack (80 Inches) and I never thought of using my spotter arms up high like you demonstrated doing shoulder presses with a barbell. It works fantastic on my rack and it has the perfect range of motion without hitting the spotter arms and then resting them gently on the spotter arms when you get fatigued. I could never do them inside my rack because I have my pull up bar inside the rack that gets in the way. Great option man, I am glad I watched your video just for the 10 second part that caught my eye, as I would never of thought of that instinctive (or well thought out) movement Thanks buddy!!!

[@GlucksGym]

Haha I love pin presses and often do them as a second movement. They're a great way to work on weak points or just to have some type of safety there in case. We do them a lot with bench as well.

[@ExpeditionaryRanger]

Also hoping you review their deep dish E-coat plates. Great job!

[@GlucksGym]

I do have a full set just haven't decided the plan there yet

[@timfritton469]

I'm just here for the algorithm... Always look forward to Thursdays at noon!

[@GlucksGym]

😁 I appreciate hearing that and thank you!

[@connormckay9429]

I'd love to see BoS start making other color options!

[@jamestonbellajo]

Awesome review. This is an insanely promising rack. I thought BoS was late to the game when they announced this but was happy to be wrong as soon as I found out they were following imperial measurements. Have you used 3/8” attachments with a spacer/adapter to fit your 1” racks? I know that’s a good way to save money but there are even more money saving options now for those who don’t want to wait til BoS releases their 1” racks and attachments.

[@codershane6569]

Can’t wait for the lat pull-down review!

[@GlucksGym]

Should be next week 😁

[@GoreckiFit]

Seems like a great rack!! Sorry for your loss man!!

[@mjr2p3]

The biggest thing I'd love to see is if their Hydra Lat Pulldown Attachment fits on an RML rack

[@rodolfomedini9931]

I'm so sorry to hear of your loss

[@GlucksGym]

Appreciate that. It's ok she hadn't been doing well for a long time and she's in a better place now.

[@KJDII97]

I’m sorry for your loss man hope all is well with your family

[@GlucksGym]

Thank you. We're doing well. She hadn't had a great quality of life lately so it's probably for the best she gets to move on.

[@KJDII97]

@@GlucksGym glad to hear you’re all a doing well I wish you all the best!

[@babygiantbarbell1014]

I love to see yet another company stepping out into the 3x3 realm. You almost have to if you want to be a major player. The attachment savings is substantial when going with a rack from a company like this (speaking from experience with a PR5000). Great stuff y’all!

[@Davidtbv]

Great video and love that you included some constructive criticism and hopefully Bells behaves as they have in the past and listens to make make those changes!

[@pierremaire6270]

I'm from France, and we Can find here some staff from ATX...Big racks! Do you know it? Are you going to talk about ATX products..? That will be awesooooome!!! You're doing great job, great reviews!!!

[@FPShkED]

Picking mine up next Sunday!!!

[@douglowry7382]

Damn it I was dead set on a PR-5000 and now I kind of want to wait for BOS’s version.

[@Darkside_Strength]

It will be interesting to see the Matincore attachments.

[@GlucksGym]

Definitely. I'm very interested to get my hands on some.

[@NewLilyCinema]

For people like me with low ceilings this seems like far and away the best 72 inch rack option out there

[@redbeard13b42]

Great review, I'll probably upgrade to this when I have enough space for it.

[@LukesGarageGym]

Excited to see bells continue to step it out!

[@TheMors1975]

Awesome video brother

[@josephfuino]

Would love to buy one if they offered different color paint jobs for it…

[@fwiffo42]

One difference I noticed on the Hydra is the feet are “skinny” so they work with their flat foot base. Did you notice any additional side-to-side wobble due to the foot difference?

[@GlucksGym]

I didn't even notice the feet so you got me there. It's just as stable as my 1" racks

[@Aquefaque]

Thanks for the review as always! I'm awaiting the manticore line for my part as my rack is in 1". But seeing this, especially the seat... It's very encouraging! I hope this will not take another year to release... :) For the lever arms (in the wide sense) I think the whole thing was very flawed from the very origins of the concept, like if no one have thought that this take a lot of place, that it's difficult and impractical to move (even from strong fellows). The first model was bolted if I'm not mistaken.... Those fu©@$er are fingers snappers... It's great to see that every iteration, there is improvement... because I strongly believe this has a place in a homegym, but it need to be the quick to deploy item that helps with specific accessory movement. Not some half-great thing that takes 20min to setup. In that sense, it's great to see what BOS did with theirs, the sliders, the handle design... But I think it can be pushed further. It's like a statement that it now a "standard". The lever arms are "supposed" to mimic the hammer strength machine that take 20 sec to setup... If we can get closer to there in the future... This will be fantastic. By looking at what vendetta strength did and now Kaizen DIY (with Gym Pin), in 3-4 years, we might see the some sort of maturity in this... On my side, I actually cut my lever arm (DIY from various sources : Rogue, Titan, local welders) in half so that the bracket with the arm is easy to move and more secure. I just have to attach the second part when I'm ready and I'm done. I got a GOAT attachment by doing this, a "almost not released Griffin lever arm" by doing this too... The only thing I don't have is the slider brackets, yet... If I'm not mistaken, the whole series (Hydra and Manticore) was supposed to come out much earlier but got delayed by the multiple international crisis...

[@rodolfomedini9931]

I'm most interested in the seal pad

[@GlucksGym]

I want it for my Monster! Soon...

[@HughLeFitness]

Can you put the flip down safeties on the inside of the rack and are there contact points on both posts or just one? One issue I have is the width of the rack at 49" making sloppy squat walkouts a little messy. If they can make a 47" rack with 1-inch holes, that would be perfect!

[@yayay9461]

On bell of steel site compatible to 1inch holes can make a review on this

[@BELLSOFSTEEL]

Really appreciate the great video review!! Brandon is so handsome 😏

[@franckthetank4977]

When you purchase a gym like this one don't worry too much at scratching it etc because a the end of the day you bought the gym to train not to focus on the little paint stuff...I'm very careful while using it but I'm not worried ...

[@blipblopride9024]

Is the WIDTH the same? for example - the adjustable pullup bar is very specific to the width.

[@GlucksGym]

Yes, I have their Rogue's adjustable pull up bar on my Hydra rack.

[@blipblopride9024]

@@GlucksGym Thanks. that is an amazingly prompt response!

[@GlucksGym]

Hahaha thanks. I'm just avoiding editing

[@javiersgym]

Man, bells doing some cool things. I can appreciate that. I’d for sure but rogue monster lite and stick bells attachments on it lol 🤫

[@chrisschneider1746]

I'm finally getting my first rack for my garage gym so I can upgrade to barbell work from dumbbells, how do I make a choice between a Rep 4000 vs. this? They seem very similar, the 80"-83" heights fit either way, and they both seem well built and very similar in features. And they're same ballpark of price depending on exact configs. How much does that ecosystem difference between Metric & Imperial matter? Both sides of it has plenty of attachment options from what I see.

[@GlucksGym]

It won't matter a ton unless you're interested in the Ares or perhaps other highly specialized attachments. Rep has more color options as well. You can make many attachments work between them with some work. The 4000 now has more holes on the side vs the older system (that the Hydra and Monster Lite has ). The appeal to this rack is its a budget Rogue Monster Lite but they're both great options.

[@bertperez5070]

First of all, thank you for all the honest and thorough reviews you provide. Unless I missed the obvious, I did not see any flip down safeties as part of the attachments. Do you know if that is something that will be released in the future?

[@StonedRambo01]

Why aren't those adjustable lever arms available anymore?

[@Alex-kb9rd]

Rogue sued them

[@sagaking9736]

Still haven't decided if I should buy BoS lever arms, or Titan/Rogue ones with vendetta adapter. Vendetta adapter seems to have more holes and larger weight capacity.

[@sagaking9736]

@A Rogue lever arms + vendentta might be the best way to go except for the price

[@sagaking9736]

@B.D me titan/rep + vendetta is a budget friendly option

[@pauldack5129]

"Kept going on their Canadian site where the prices are different because that's not real money " 😁

[@GlucksGym]

😆 glad someone likes the jokes

[@ExpeditionaryRanger]

Not seeing a big difference with Rogue, but it's something. The RML-490 is ~$1970 delivered to my Canadian location and a 4' Hydra configured is ~$1782. Now, that's without adding safety straps to the Rogue as it adds $150 or so if I recall (can't auto calculate the price online.) So, maybe at least a $300 savings. I need spotter arms now and very glad however that the Bells stuff can fit the rack I bought last year... if only Bells was one year sooner! Can't compare the overall delivered prices though as BoS spotters are already out of stock in Canada. TBD....

[@ExpeditionaryRanger]

Bells, if you are listening, please add a large order free shipping option like one of your Canadian competitors! (>$2000, free shipping to select locations for pickup province by province.). Thanks Kaevon!

[@The_YouTube_Critic]

Yeah - all these youtube gym reviewers talk up things like this and Rep fitness - but they are nearly the same price as Rogue at this point. Stupid.

[@davidlehmann5550]

Does anyone know if the BoS uprights are interchangeable with the Rogue Monster Lite uprights. I want to convert my RML 4-post rack to a 6-post rack. Rogue wants nearly twice as much for theirs. Before I buy BoS uprights it would be nice to know if they will match up. Thx

[@GlucksGym]

It's a literal copy

[@davidlehmann5550]

Well, that was shockingly fast (and greatly appreciated). Thank you!

[@ardendoss9683]

I'm curious about their snap-back mono-lifts and some of the drawings you shared when you were at their HQ in regards to their leg ext/curl rack mount, etc. I'm also curious about any interoperability with Rep/Titan uprights...shimming the attachments with felt or what not. In short, I already have a rack, and love the idea of having a new source for attachments with some innovative features that are normally found at the more niche levels.

[@chithi8649]

Woot! Thanks for the review, this monster is definitely in my radar. I just hope that all the attachment accessories fit for all the 3 different height setups. C’mon Bell, get me that Smiths attachment, that’ll definitely seal the deal for me, and I’ll deal with wife bitchin’ at me for it….for the rest of my life haha 😅. I love that there’s a local option for those of us in Calgary, as getting stuff sourced and dealing with shipping is a huge road block, at least for me.

[@mwpig5]

I would have liked to have seen 4 way holes at 2” spacing instead of a carbon copy of the RML but it doesn’t matter, I wasn’t buying it anyway. Great review

[@GlucksGym]

That's one of the they save money and keep prices lower on the 5/8" racks. Agreed, it would be nice but if they did everything I'd like it would cost what a Monster does 😂

[@mwpig5]

I guess. Rep somehow figured out a way to do it on the 4000 series while keeping it less expensive than the 5000 series but still- I’m not buying that either so what do I care 😂

[@GlucksGym]

That's a good point though that's a newer change. It was like this not long ago as when we reviewed it. This is just doing what Rogue is

[@futbol1972]

Do u know if i can drop rhinoi nto bells of steel rack?

[@seamus9347]

😂you're hilarious love the reviews.

[@GlucksGym]

Don't tell anyone but you're now my favorite

[@juggernautota]

When is Bells of Steel coming out with their 3x3 1" Hole Racks and Attachments ?

[@GlucksGym]

Technically they exist locally in Calgary but I'm not sure about their big launch

[@juggernautota]

@@GlucksGym Thank you for taking your time to reply. I will give them a call. Hopefully, they can help me get what I want and need. I appreciate your channel.

[@GlucksGym]

@@juggernautota if you're local I was told they're only selling them locally atm

[@dkmchui]

The question to ask is will they change the hole pattern to key holes that can take both 1" and 5/8'.

[@david2049]

Damn, too bad I already have my REP rack. It is nice having more 72" options. My basement has a super low ceiling, so it really limited my choices.

[@asvpab]

Tell your buddies at BoS to make a rogue lat seat and slinger alternative

[@easterneuropeantracksuit3312]

Can anyone recommend a pair of affordable squat stands that can be converted to a rack? Does this exist? I don’t want to go all in if I end up not using it and can’t get to gym now with two babiesathome

[@t_plauche]

Hey Gluck, I haven't seen anything about Manticore outside of this video. I watched your tour of the BOS facility, but it ended at the closed door. Is there any other info about the Manticore line?

[@GlucksGym]

Supposed to be ready in October(ish) they had some finish problems and wanted to hammer a few things out. We'll get our hands on one when they're released!

[@t_plauche]

Ah. I just saw the other vid that I missed. That is exciting. I hope the Manticore comes out soon.

[@PapioRed]

I know I can't be the only one who wants to know, can the Lat Attachment work on Rogue Racks?

[@stephennolan219]

Why did I think the new TITAN series racks were a true 3x3 inches? But I may be having a stroke

[@JustSheilz]

Im going to have to show this to the SO!

[@GlucksGym]

Hahaha tell them it's time for an upgrade

[@JustSheilz]

@@GlucksGym Everything would be an upgrade. We just have a bike, a few dumbbells, bands and the bench I won.

[@GlucksGym]

This would be a few levels above that bench 😂

[@JustSheilz]

@@GlucksGym No doubt!

[@lucas1975]

7:35 - 7:40 But if you're unlucky enough to be in Europe (especially in Italy) you got just one or two brands, nothing special apart strengthshop, lacertosus and kingsbox and their price are extremely high with absolutely less versatility then both American and Canadian brands! Just an extremely good quality powerlifting barbell from a small Italian company called "power gear" (think about a 29mm stiff stainless steel rogue Ohio Power bar at 429€, something like 400$ shipped to your door) but for racks and attachments you got only basic options sadly, the majority of products rogue sells there are overpriced and we got like 1/5 of the choice you got in the states! (I had to build myself a Swiss cambered bar because they got Chinese very low quality ones with only two handles spacing 20"-29" costing not less than 250€ shipped) Fitness and gyms aren't popular there unless you're in big cities of the north, they're just into football! Forgive me for my bad English 😅

[@alexferrari3149]

Same situation here. Got everything from Rogue Monster Lite... But beels of steel wouldn't ship here?

[@omarbazavilvazo4660]

I was thinking about getting a PR-4000 with Ares, now I don’t know :) it would be great if you made a comparison and recommendation on this vs PR-4000 with or without ares for people thinking about buying a new power rack :)

[@squealer42]

Are Bells racks made with up to 3% U.S, steel?

[@GlucksGym]

You just be confusing these with Rep's weight tolerance on everything. Benches, rings, gym flags, you name it 😂

[@asif105878]

Thanks for the video. What color safety straps are you using?

[@GlucksGym]

Red

[@davidc6430]

Think Bells Lat/Row attachment would fit on a RML???? Not a fan of the slinger…

[@BELLSOFSTEEL]

It does, you just need one of our crossmembers as ours has holes on top

[@mostly-for-comments5565]

Any advice on how to convince my wife that I need to buy this even though my current BOS rack is one year old?

[@GlucksGym]

Ahahha I'm not sure I can help you there

[@ronnymunoz-acuna4343]

Nice review. I am debating between BOS Hydra vs REP PR5000. What should I do???

[@GlucksGym]

The first thing I'd ask is do you want to live in Rogue's or Rep's world? For example would you eventually want an Ares or drop in Rhino? Some of those big attachments won't fit on the other. Rack width can matter width specialty bars as well so it really depends where you're going with your gym longterm.

[@ronnymunoz-acuna4343]

@@GlucksGym I got to say I love the ARES. And I was not planning on getting a separate cable/pulley system. On the other hand I also like the compatibility between Rogue and BOS. Would I be able to get any kind of monster slinger in the Hydra? Also all this being said my basement is only 89 inches. So that is another factor to consider. By the way thanks for replying!!!! I love your channel!

[@GlucksGym]

@@ronnymunoz-acuna4343 the Slinger will fit but it's nowhere near the attachment the Ares is. That being said Rogue does have some killer other attachments.

[@ronnymunoz-acuna4343]

@@GlucksGym well after reviewing your video about the ares. And looking closely to the quality of products REP makes I think I’ll go all in with the the REP PR5000. Thanks for answering my questions.

[@GlucksGym]

You're welcome. I'm sure you'll love whatever you pick!

[@Crazytaru1]

I like how he shows u a way to scam your wife (show her a stainless rogue rack in comparison to hydra) lol

[@GlucksGym]

Hahaha it's a bargain in comparison!

[@LBJedi]

I REALLY considering this rack, but I’d also like to get something like the Rep Aries in the future. Do you think Bells might release something similar someday soon-ish?

[@GlucksGym]

No I don't think soonish and I'm not sure what they're working on is similar to the Ares

[@greyed0ut]

alright BOS, we see you!

[@keithhoneycutt2324]

I hope you and Wynie were NOT high school sweethearts

[@neiloppa2620]

You know of rack options that are stainless steel?

[@GlucksGym]

Rogue and Sorinex have stainless options and American Barbell is working on something as well.

[@gibbygordo]

My 2x3 rogue r3 is perfect for me

[@GlucksGym]

Loved my old Infinity rack. All that matters is it's good for you right?

[@vespaman101]

Is bell's assembling in the USA? Are they sourcing steel in the USA?

[@dkmchui]

When I move to another house I will sell my existing BOS commercial rack and replace it with Hydra half rack.

[@GlucksGym]

Should be an upgrade you'll really love!

[@PemaFarrow]

For the algorithm 🍻

[@MeepMeep88]

Bells of Rogue looks noiceeee lol

[@GlucksGym]

Hahaha

[@el7145]

I said this on your last BOS video...but why would you order this vs the PR 4000? very valid question, why are you comparing to ROGUE??? why on earth wouldn't you make a comparison to REP FITNESS. At this point, maybe its important to ask, Are you being paid by BOS for this video? No color options, look at the lack of holes on the uprights (similar to Titan). Price is about the same as REP fitness. If you want budget, go with Titan X3. If you want high quality and not mortgage your house go with REP fitness. Its literally less the $70 difference between REP PR 4000 and BOS hydra...but when you factor in the ability to add color, again why would you go with BOS

[@GlucksGym]

This is a true 3"x3" rack that is identical to Rogue's Monster rack. It was literally made to compete with the Rogue Monster Lite. They're the same rack so the comparison is the obvious one. The measurements and configurations are identical. If you don't see how thorough and honest I am I'm not going to waste more energy convincing you otherwise as these videos already take enough time and energy.

[@carps_gym]

Gluck in stuff 🥈

[@tonyallen3138]

My wife says they look the same 😂 🤣

[@GlucksGym]

Well... Ummm... Yeah she's kinda right 😂

[@harryshort1690]

C'mon BOS just stick a 1" option to all these attachments. I've got Rogue RM3 already but damn attachment are expensive.

[@GlucksGym]

They've already got a 1" on the way, we revealed it in our last video on them

[@nichts_als_die_Wahrheit]

I dont think that there is much quality difference between bells and the other companies and when there is a different then it is tiny. At the end the normal user of this equipment who trains at home will be more than satisfied. And plus, the more competation between different brands the more the price goes down and that is good for us all.

[@nichts_als_die_Wahrheit]

Sorry for my english, I am not a native speaker. I was born in Germany, my parents came from Morocco and I learned English at school.

[@narigon3942]

So, apparently Rogue is suing BoS. This video might end up as exhibit A? 😳😄

[@HeCoversMe]

Sorry about your Grandma bud

[@massiminimakes]

7:12 Wouldn't that make you innumerate, not illiterate?

[@GlucksGym]

I guess we can just change it up uneducated 😂

[@1882dmac]

Hats off to Bells. Rogue has gotten out of hand with their pricing. You man disagree but feel like Rogue focus is not on the business owners and less on Garage Gym Owners. Just my opinion.

[@blackblaze1996]

Dude! You didn't even assem- ... nvm. Carry on.

[@GlucksGym]

😂

[@Herr2Cents]

Metric is the best. I wish the USA would catch up with the rest of the world.

[@baylee0831]

ya boi is here

[@joecowan3719]

Yo

[@corrysmith6109]

The range of motion of that low row is comical. They need to stop adding that useless thing and make it at a height that is reasonable.

[@Rack979]

Weird writing on that red plate, surely it should say 55 pounds!

[@GlucksGym]

😂 That's their calibrated kilo plates. They do make a pounds version but this was a rare time I went kilo

[@mariolp2999]

There is no incentive in buying this brand when it almost costs the same......come on Bells of Steel... lower the darn prices...

[@CloaknDagger]

Wife squats :D :D

[@notoriouslycuriouswombat]

do people really care this much about "scuffing up their rack" ? hear this all the time on youtube

[@GlucksGym]

Yep. Most people don't enjoy when their expensive things get nicked up. Over time it's bound to happen some but if it's a design oversight or an easy fix people like to know.