Roland Fantom-0 06 07 08 Sequencer - How to start part way through a pattern

[@BigAntVideo]

If you don't want all the waffle, then skip to 3:35 to hear the answer!

[@jbognap]

Videos like this are incredibly helpful when you're researching a purchase.

[@PaulBSafar]

Hello Sir ! I've been searching for this precise info and stumbled to your clip, LUCKILY !!! Thank you SO much. I'm happy to special thank you.

[@BigAntVideo]

You are welcome Paul - it's a bit of a wierd problem that shouldn't really exist 😞👍

[@kmjansen]

Oh man this was just what I needed to see. I've had the Fantom for about a year and had resolved to suffer through listening to the whole pattern each time I needed to make an edit. Thanks!

[@BigAntVideo]

You're welcome Kevin - I was relieved too when I found this out!

[@corisleachman6163]

just got an 08. Soo much to learn, but this has been super helpful - just because I couldn't figure out where I was saving my sequences to when I saved them. Based on this vid, I clearly wasn't saving them properly, so as soon as I went to another scene, I lost my sequence and patterns!

[@BigAntVideo]

I'm glad it was useful Coris. I find the keyboard quirky, but it has some real strengths. Make sure you download the free should packs - there some great new sound on the Roland Cloud site 🙂

[@corisleachman6163]

@@BigAntVideo I new to keyboards so I’m taking baby steps at a time, as you can probably tell. The first thing I need to work out is how to start a new scene, so I can start laying down sequences and patterns and be able to save my progress so I can come back and carry on working on it. Based on you vid, I think I I understand where I was going wrong, but need to get in from of my keyboard to check it out. So once I’ve learnt these basics I’ll check out connecting to Roland’s cloud . Thanks!

[@BigAntVideo]

@@corisleachman6163 sounds like you have a plan. Find yourself an Initial Scene (Bank C has loads), then build from there, then rename when you overwrite it👍

[@BigAntVideo]

All good thanks - hope life is treating you well 😎

[@andreasurban6795]

Thaaaaaank you!!! That was exactly the information I was looking for. Much appreciate your sharing of this utterly useful info!

[@BigAntVideo]

All part of the service Andreas 😁

[@itsrob2321]

Excellent tutorial, my new friend! Good job!

[@BigAntVideo]

Thanks Rob 👍

[@mrbojangles1396]

@BigAntVideo - Do you know of a tutorial or any way to be able to play a set of notes, record that set of played notes as midi, then use that pattern to drive something like the Step LFO or other feature (compression side-chain or EFX out) so it can be used as an Arepeggiator input that can be played back based on whatever root note you're playing?

[@BigAntVideo]

Maybe buy an SH101 which has a transpose key which you can hold whilst hitting whatever note you want it to move to 😂 Great question but I'm out of my depth here 😮

[@BigAntVideo]

Maybe buy an SH101 which has a transpose key which you can hold whilst hitting whatever note you want it to move to 😂 Great question but I'm out of my depth here 😮

[@rodneywood3399]

that was great thx just back up from realising that frustration and spotted your video.

[@BigAntVideo]

Glad it helped Rodney - I really hope Roland issue a firmware update whereby you no longer need to do this.

[@ItsReezun]

Very helpful tip.

[@JEBariffic]

Thank you! Been driving me crazy.

[@FabioSantilli]

Thanks a lot!!

[@janrogernilsen7749]

Thanks a lot. Very useful. 😊 Now I will use this trick to edit mistakes within a measure, without having to play the whole thing from the start. I suppose I can "isolate" the measure and correct mistakes using real time recording as well? Also useful to use the draw function to change the velocity for a group of notes.

[@BigAntVideo]

Glad it was useful Jan. I hope a future firmware update allows you to start part way through without having to do this 👍

[@BigAntVideo]

Glad it was useful Jan. I hope a future firmware update allows you to start part way through without having to do this 👍

[@hvxcolors396]

Are these clips/phrases only accessible from within a song or are they accessible in a global directory as on the classic Roland grooveboxes? As for the samples: are they accessible via midi Bank Selects or is it necessary to load a project first? I would be interested in getting the Fantom as a keyboard/sampler addition for classic grooveboxes that lack a sampler (mc505 etc). Akai keeps updating its MPCs but for Roland I dont know how long they keep updating the software to iron out all the shortcomings. Thanks for uploading these great tips and tricks,

[@perrystanleyNumber9]

Really helpful ! Thank you!

[@Somanybeats]

Thanks for the help. Roland really need to update the software some. Its little things that could make big differences like this and some other nicks the Fantom lcould use tweeking in. Hey do you know how to set the piano roll to the S1 or S2 keys?

[@BigAntVideo]

Yes - I really hope they add this functionality at some point too. I've not messed about with the S1/S2 keys, but I'm sure you know that if you hold down Shift whilst pressing either of them, you get the setup menu for that key, and then you can scroll through all the options and parameters you can assign to it? There are subcategories down the side, then scrollable options on the right.

[@Somanybeats]

@@BigAntVideo Thanks I didn't see it the first time I looked but Ima go check again. If we could get these small things fix it would be perfect. The little issues kind of make me want to use a DAW for my sequencing since I know how to use that but Ima keep learning the Fantom. Maybe its more shortcuts we haven't came across.

[@BigAntVideo]

@@Somanybeats It's definitely worth learning your way around - the design is so well integrated - all the different parts work really well together, so the machine is way more powerful than it seems at first,

[@Somanybeats]

@@BigAntVideo You're right about that for sure. I watched this guy make an incredible track that showed some incredible things the keyboard is capable of. Talk about a power house instrument. The video is called "The Speed to Create" by David Ahlund. Pure inspirational, dude went crazy on the Fantom

[@BigAntVideo]

@@Somanybeats That's really cool - thanks for the suggestion. This is still one of my favorite demos :- kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXi5g3Wvhd2HbMU

[@janrogernilsen7749]

I play piano fairly well. When I play I often imagine what I'm doing with my left hand being played by a bass player. I would like to arrange my piano pieces/songs for a band. So is it possible to make a recording in the sequencer in the Fantom, and afterwards mark/seperate and copy parts of it and paste it into another pattern and choose a bass sound. Using for instance the piano-roll or step write. I have not found a way to select several notes at once (for deleting or copying). I suppose I could play the whole thing with both hands, copy the whole pattern, and delete the upper notes in one of them (and choose the bass-sound), and delete the lower notes in the other. But this seems very unpractical.

[@BigAntVideo]

It's a very good question. I've not had a chance to play around with this too much, but will definitely see whether or not this is possible.

[@dominator4619]

Very helpful thanks for this, only had mine for about 3mnts and still earning. Q. when changing anything in piano roll can you do more than just 1 undo, is there a history.

[@BigAntVideo]

Thanks for the positive comment. I don't know about multiple levels of undo - I've not seen an option for that. What I tend to do is as soon as something goes how I want, I save. Then I can always undo to the last Save point. Also - if you change musical direction significantly, Save to a new Scene, and then carry on working. You can then of course reload the old scene if it doesn't work.

[@GaryBeilby]

Great tutorial!

[@BigAntVideo]

Thanks Gary!

[@Algoritmarte]

Is it possible - once the length is set - to shift the starting measure without all those clicks, by simply turning a knob ? Is it possible to verdub (or rewrite) only the looped section?

[@jbognap]

Can you record into a looped section of a pattern using this technique?

[@plj471]

Hi, great vid as I just needed to do the very same thing. Problem I have now is that I can edit from midway in the song but only on the selected voice. Im doing a drum pattern and it only plays the selected loop on the drum track. If I press play to hear the section, the other tracks start from the beginning $#$$???. With all the programming potential available you would think that things like this would never be a problem....

[@BigAntVideo]

It is a pretty serious design flaw. The minute you have to engineer a "workaround" you know you're in trouble...

[@mildheadwound]

I bet there is an option for play from stop point. Try shift and play at the same time. A lot of sequencers do full restart on play. I'm also surprised you can't select a start bar on the fly.

[@BigAntVideo]

It's a good suggestion - believe me I've tried every combination. The second you press stop (there's no pause or anything) it goes to measure 1. There is a high probability I'm being really dumb though so...

[@zzzudio]

No, there's not. And yes, that's frustrating. The Fantom unfortunately is full of all kinds of quirks. Hardware is great, Software not.

[@BigAntVideo]

@@zzzudioYes - love the hardware - probably my favorite synth so far. Let's hope they fix some of the quirks with future software updates.

[@pgtips4240]

Great tip, thanks.

[@BigAntVideo]

You're welcome for the tip Mr Tips 😂👍

[@Russsssss]

Great keyboard

[@infinityfight4394]

Wow 😮 super keyboard

[@eddysmythe708]

Hi. Many thanks for the tutorial. One question please, having saved and then 'write', where is the sample saved to?

[@BigAntVideo]

Hi Eddy. So far I've not actually got round to using the sampler(!). When I get some time I will look into it. This guy is pretty thorough with explaining things though: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mnytapxuncRgpa8

[@eddysmythe708]

@@BigAntVideo Many thanks and much appreciated. I will check out this video.

[@BEASTBEATS700]

Man bro good evening man I been looking for a video all day trying figure how u could record your own pattern for some reason when I first got My fantom two days ago I started the recording a pattern just like u did at the 2:02 time stamp in your video. Then the next day I did the same thing and now it’s not letting me record the way like u just did when I press start to record it says Rec Waiting, REC END, Close or Stop I’m like it wasn’t doing this before can u help me out my brother I’ll greatly appreciate

[@BigAntVideo]

Sounds like you're on the right screen. Is there a red "Now Recording" sign above the REC END, Close and Stop?

[@BEASTBEATS700]

I got it bro thanks

[@BigAntVideo]

@@BEASTBEATS700 Good man - sorry I couldn't be more help Larry.

[@Capt-Cran]

Great video!! ... Thank you ...

[@BigAntVideo]

You're welcome - glad it was useful.

[@natanmandala]

My question is, and I hope you can help, is how to change the velocity of a clap in the grid that is with four other sounds per say in the same place? If a have a clap that is too loud and I want to change the velocity for just one clap in the pattern, how do I do that without changing all the other velocities that hit in that same place? I can't figure it out for the life of me. This should be something so simple, but it isn't?

[@BigAntVideo]

Have you tried going into Microscope rather than Piano Roll under the edit menu? You can select any part/note of that part and change velocity there.

[@renoruberts]

What is the maximum length of a song in fantom 06? It is just 64 measures?

[@BigAntVideo]

A pattern can be up to 64 bars (of whatever time signature you've selected). These patterns can then be put into up to 16 groups (and these groups can repeat). The groups can then be formed into up to 32 parts of a song.

[@cepilla]

Thank you so much!

[@BigAntVideo]

You're welcome Joslin - I'm glad it helped you.

[@carloasis1495]

How to delete a pattern to record it again ? is it possible to quantize after the track is recorded ?

[@BigAntVideo]

In the pattern view, click "Ptn Utility", and then you can eitther delete or quantize.

[@felipefs106]

I'm surprised it only records up to 64 steps. I have the mc 707, which is a much simpler device that uses the same zen core engine, and the sequencer can record up to 128 steps

[@gamiensrule]

Wild. So you can't just like... Use the scroll wheel to jog to that measure and then play? That seems like an oversite.

[@BigAntVideo]

It's ridiculous - I am hoping a firmware update resolves this massive oversight. When you think Roland were pioneers of sequencers....