Roland Juno-60 vs. Korg Polysix Analog Synthesizer (1982) battle

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@retrosound72
@retrosound72 3 жыл бұрын
The Roland Juno-60 Synthesizer from the year 1982 is one of my Top5 synths ever. Here can you find the full Juno-60 playlist with single sound demos and one synth demo tracks. Enjoy. The Juno-60 playlist ----> kzbin.info/aero/PLe08Lbpy8pPb6Q9YN5hah5QwEaUs9YaZp
@fishercawkey
@fishercawkey 22 күн бұрын
Gawwd when that sub-osc hits, it's *chef's kiss*
@jeffleonhardt7173
@jeffleonhardt7173 6 жыл бұрын
I was 16 in 1982 and that Christmas I found a PolySix under the tree! Such a solid build and smooth sound. My parents, who knew nothing about synthesizers, inquired about the PolySix, Roland Juno-60 and the Sequential Circuits Prophet 5. The Prophet, at $5k, was right out and the salesman touted the Korg as the more affordable and yet versatile instrument. Sadly, and stupidly, I sold it around 1991 for $800. I really wish I hadn't done that...
@moogdome2562
@moogdome2562 6 жыл бұрын
We have all done it mate i could scream about all the classic synths I've sold. i'm crying now boo hoo.
@jasonmcgary
@jasonmcgary 6 жыл бұрын
To have sold it then for 800 was actually a pretty high price
@MIDERA
@MIDERA 6 жыл бұрын
If you sold it in 1991 for $800, inflation suggests that, in today's money, that would be $1485. The polysix now goes for appx $1,100 - $1,500, according to Reverb.com. This means that you actually made about as much as the higher end of its worth - don't be too sad.
@CattyTatty
@CattyTatty 4 жыл бұрын
Cheer up! Everyone sold their cool analogue synths in the 90's. I had a MonoPoly and a PolyMoog 😬
@tyler_
@tyler_ 2 жыл бұрын
Haha I thought getting a $300 Nintendo was the absolute paramount for a kid to get under the tree. My parents leaned on that "I don't know anyone who gets an expensive playstation for Nintendo" anytime they could. To think there were parents in the 80s dropping thousands on synths they knew nothing about solely because they believed in their kids.
@TheMetalMusicMachine
@TheMetalMusicMachine 8 жыл бұрын
Juno - Polite Polysix - Rough Both sounds awesome.
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 8 жыл бұрын
!!!
@TheMetalMusicMachine
@TheMetalMusicMachine 8 жыл бұрын
***** Same category... Juno sounds polite and kind and the poly six sounds more edgy... leaving behind that they both share the same kind of architecture and both sounds smooth and warm... and cozy... it's like comparing twins... hehehe Juno Chorus sounds more transparent and Poly's chorus sounds more dirtier and wetter and tames a little bit of the high end... those little beautiful details keyboard players like to geek about... ;)
@pakey423
@pakey423 6 жыл бұрын
I own both of them. The Juno is my favorite, although the Polysix sounds indeed a bit 'dirtier'/rough.
@hvegel
@hvegel 8 жыл бұрын
Not even close, PolySix's rawness of its oscillators and beautiful, yet dark, filter, win out right.
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 8 жыл бұрын
very different sound. yes
@hvegel
@hvegel 8 жыл бұрын
You've successfully rekindled my old love for the PolySix, and further reminded me why I love that board more than any of the Juno's!
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 8 жыл бұрын
good! I love the P-6 too. ;)
@quarkyzarky
@quarkyzarky 7 жыл бұрын
I agree, having had them both. Polysix is a 10 to Juno's 7. I actually prefer the slight tonal difference on the Juno 106 vs the 60 (I found the 60 a bit too static/samey but the 106 is a bit more pliable). The 60 does have much nicer envs though but for pads and leads/fx the 106 is better imo. Polysix is better than both but it won't quite do that roland sweet pad (but it does everything else inc PWM much better)
@synth4ever
@synth4ever 8 жыл бұрын
Both sound lovely in their own way. Legends!
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 8 жыл бұрын
+synth4ever :)
@deryflores9225
@deryflores9225 8 жыл бұрын
Korg Mono/Poly: 4x SSM2033 VCO, 1x SSM2044 VCF Polysix: 6x SSM2056 EG, 6x SSM2044 VCF Poly-61: 6x SSM2056 EG
@calesfer
@calesfer 8 жыл бұрын
I own a Polysix and always wanted this comparisson! Based on your review the Polysix sounds a bit more "unstable" wich is part of its character that I love. Both great synths though! Great work! This is the best synth review channel! :)
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 8 жыл бұрын
+CARLOS FERNANDEZ thanks a lot for the feedback :)
@reidhauke3389
@reidhauke3389 2 жыл бұрын
Carlos, I think that unit could use a calibration.
@helisoma
@helisoma Жыл бұрын
i have a Juno 6 and now i want a Polysix for the instability 😂😂😂
@devmiles
@devmiles 7 жыл бұрын
The Korg VCO's + PWM and Sub ocs sound absolutely insane .. man ..deep. The Juno 60 sounds more stable i guess and the Korg rougher, little deeper while the 60 sounds more 'transparant' The FX section on the Poly 6 is totally awesome. Both synths have their own character and i love them both in the end.
@alphanumeric1529
@alphanumeric1529 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but if you had to choose, you'd choose the Poly 6, don't lie!
@darwinsaye
@darwinsaye 7 жыл бұрын
Wow... I had a PolySix and had no idea how much it blew the Juno's filter out of the water... Rich and harmonic vs nasty and screechy...
@jeevespreston
@jeevespreston 8 жыл бұрын
Wonderful comparison, thanks!!!! In the "Arp with Filter" section starting around 3:50, anyone besides me picking up a pitch drift on the Korg?
@kl-dy5xu
@kl-dy5xu 7 жыл бұрын
yep its all over the shop
@davebellamy4867
@davebellamy4867 6 жыл бұрын
Definitely!!
@scottbirch968
@scottbirch968 6 жыл бұрын
I used to play with a Polysix back in the day. I love the sound, but I am reassured by the stability of Roland's DCOs, especially when the filter sweep doesn't seem to change the fundamental pitch.
@littleboywithglasses6373
@littleboywithglasses6373 7 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, thanks so much. Owned a 106 and 60 but never a poly. This made me put the poly at the top of my shopping list. So warm and fuzzy, really alive. I never really got on with the 60.
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 7 жыл бұрын
thank you for watching :)
@RayyMusik
@RayyMusik 4 жыл бұрын
If you want to experience the difference between VCOs and DCOs, listen to 0:44!
@OscillatorCollective
@OscillatorCollective 8 жыл бұрын
I really love that Korg sound
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 8 жыл бұрын
+OscillatorCollective :)
@moogdome2562
@moogdome2562 6 жыл бұрын
Wow. they could lock me up in your studio, and throw away the key. I'd be happy as Larry.Wonderful, nothing beats vintage synths. well done.
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 6 жыл бұрын
thanks a lot :)
@mattjbyron2010
@mattjbyron2010 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this one, always exciting to see a new video from Retrosound!!!
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 8 жыл бұрын
thanks a lot Matt! :)
@HeIiosphan
@HeIiosphan 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that awesome channel, you can be proud you transmitted your passion and synth-fever to a lot of people like me ! You help me recognizing the different classic synth, and it's important in that DAW-era
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 8 жыл бұрын
+M-SALAMI yes this is the message. Thank you for the feedback! :)
@paulsimvient
@paulsimvient 8 жыл бұрын
When I was in a rock band in the 80s, my friend had the Poly6 and I had the Juno 60. It kills me to say that even back then, I remembered feeling like the Poly6 had deeper richer tones - bit of a bummer given I wanted so much for the Juno60 to shine.
@quarkyzarky
@quarkyzarky 7 жыл бұрын
It does, I've let numerous junos go over the years but always kept a Polysix. It's not only better than juno but better than many upper-class synths even with its basic 1 osc engine. Discreet VCOs + SSM filter = WIN!
@BlueNote26
@BlueNote26 3 жыл бұрын
The Polysix sounds so good! The chorus effect on the Juno is unbelievable though. If I had to choose only one I'd buy the Polysix. But we all know we need both :D Thanks for this video
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching
@ZuBaker
@ZuBaker 4 жыл бұрын
Both sounds musical and amazing!
@uncccut23
@uncccut23 5 жыл бұрын
No one mentions the Juno’s wonderful envelopes. Much more snappy than the Polysix. I love both of them but prefer the Juno for this reason
@MrFricoco
@MrFricoco 8 жыл бұрын
Sweet sounds! Both are powerful synths!
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 8 жыл бұрын
+MrFricoco :)
@GlennMichaelThompson
@GlennMichaelThompson 8 жыл бұрын
Very informative videos you've produced. Been watching/listening to more than a few, and they are much appreciated. Thanks! :0)
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 8 жыл бұрын
thank you for the feedback Glenn :)
@GlennMichaelThompson
@GlennMichaelThompson 8 жыл бұрын
My pleasure. Oh ya... I've subscribed (of course!) :0)
@bobacks
@bobacks 6 жыл бұрын
I do love the roughness of the Polysix. I'd take either :)
@stephenstalter2481
@stephenstalter2481 8 жыл бұрын
Owned both. Always grabbed the Polysix for gigs. I LOVED the way it sounded straight into an amp. I liked the way the 60 looked better, but you could have a cookout over the power supply. My JP-6 ran just as hot. I am all software now. I hate these videos because they show me just how much better the real ones sound. No. The software Poly doesn't even come close. Now the Juno softies get pretty close...Tyrell or Poly 2106 and the TAL ones anywho...
@foto21
@foto21 7 жыл бұрын
The software is SO much more convenient than hardware to sequence. But what sounds good is what really matters. I hate trying to ram samples into things. This is of course, why Deadmau5 is a sequencing master.
@Tazmanian_Ninja
@Tazmanian_Ninja 7 жыл бұрын
foto21com Can you elaborate on your deadmau5 comment? Curious to know more.
@foto21
@foto21 7 жыл бұрын
Deadmau5 mostly records and performs wiht analog hardware synths, from what I understand. For him to do this, however, he has to be able to run midi patterns OUT of the DAW, into the analog synth (and the older ones do NOT have midi ports, just cv plugs) and then back into that DAW or a mixer of some type. I don't know how he does it, I just know that's what he has to do. You'll have to research elsewhere to find out how he does it.
@Tazmanian_Ninja
@Tazmanian_Ninja 7 жыл бұрын
foto21com Ah, I see what you mean. CV can in itself be used for a lot, when one's creative. Judging from various deadmau5 studio-videos, it seems he's mostly using his huge analog modular synthesizer... wall :D I'm sure that one has midi built-in:) Personally, I don't miss outboard gear. Have worked with it quite a lot, back in the late 90s and early 00s. Biggest problem was that not all sounds could be saved and recalled easily, so we always had our studio turned on, 24/7, working on one track at a time. Today: I just load up Bitwig Studio and off I go :) I think there are lots of excellent sounding VSTs available. The "Legend" MiniMoog emulation is VERY close to the real thing. And in a mix, no one can hear a difference. That said, I do miss a hardware synth or two, with lots of knobs to tweak, live, recording it back into Bitwig. Preferably a synth that drifts like mad. Just haven't found "the one" I want, yet.
@j.du6
@j.du6 6 жыл бұрын
Tazmanian Ninja the Volca Keys is limited but very underrated. It is is super crusty and analog. It's a sleeper gem.
@dreco64
@dreco64 8 жыл бұрын
I am a fan of the Juno-6/60, so I can't be objective ;) But Poly-6 is an excellent synth too ...
@marcuswilespage
@marcuswilespage 5 жыл бұрын
Got to use both on a session yesterday. They sounded very different. I think I liked the filter on the Polysix better but would probably find the Juno to be more versatile in the long run because it can have multiple waveforms simultaneously from its single oscillator, plus it has noise (which I couldn’t seem to find on the korg🤔)
@lisadouglas3993
@lisadouglas3993 3 жыл бұрын
yes no noise generator on P6 one thing the Juno has that the P6 does not
@luismaior
@luismaior 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome! My two favourite synths
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 8 жыл бұрын
+Luis Maior thanks :)
@instrumentalistjade8367
@instrumentalistjade8367 7 жыл бұрын
They work great together... nothing is better....
@palewine
@palewine 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this comparison
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 2 жыл бұрын
:)
@geoffk777
@geoffk777 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks, great demo. They're very similar sounding and both sound great, but I'd vote for the Roland, hands down. A cleaner, deeper, more professional sound. Some others below disagree though, so I guess it's a personal choice.
@geoffk777
@geoffk777 8 жыл бұрын
By the way, if you like the Polysix, Korg has released great softsynth versions for PC and iPad. Definitely worth picking up.
@synthscolors
@synthscolors 8 жыл бұрын
Superb Analog Sounds & Atmosphere... Hat Off & Thanks For This Great Demo Featuring 2 Analog Beauties With 2 Different Personalities... Love Them Both... Keep Creating & Sharing These Delights !; -))
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 8 жыл бұрын
+synths colors thank you so much. have a nice weekend :)
@synthscolors
@synthscolors 8 жыл бұрын
My Pleasure ! Excellent Weekend To You Too ! ;-))
@marcospintor1333
@marcospintor1333 4 жыл бұрын
The juno is definitely my type of vibe. The korg is good too tho
@pfmdude
@pfmdude 3 жыл бұрын
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the Polysix absolutely kills it. Those epic strings... I love it. Nothing comes close. I'm very blessed to own both a Polysix and Juno-6.
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@williamshaneblyth
@williamshaneblyth 3 жыл бұрын
More agressive sort of sound more ballsy the Juno is more lush software sounds they are just good at different things
@romansidler
@romansidler 8 жыл бұрын
Great comparison... The Juno sounds a little bit more polite to me compared to the Korg, but the filter of the Juno is... wow! Both are great Synths... Difficult to say which one I would choose...
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 8 жыл бұрын
+Roman Sidler thank you
@quarkyzarky
@quarkyzarky 8 жыл бұрын
I've had both (in fact I've had many of each) and I ended up only keeping the Polysix. I really like the Junos though but when I had to streamline it was no contest. Juno is a lovely synth but it's more limited and 'samey' vs the Raw Polysix which sounds like a real vintage analog.
@thefool2007
@thefool2007 2 жыл бұрын
Different flavors that both sound good to me. Cool comparison.
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@thefool2007
@thefool2007 2 жыл бұрын
@@retrosound72 I have been binge watching. I use it as study music for my college coursework. You make some fun content. Just curious- do you own all of them? Those synth rooms blow my mind. I love what you do with them so it’s quite enjoyable.
@KaiserWilhelmIV
@KaiserWilhelmIV 7 жыл бұрын
I owned both, even back in late eighties, the juno was worth more used. Juno hands down.
@MrLawrence0071
@MrLawrence0071 6 жыл бұрын
Love both, though the PolySix would be the one if I really had to make that 1 choice.
@Peichiny
@Peichiny 6 жыл бұрын
I love them both,they are super synthesizers!
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 6 жыл бұрын
:)
@Goettel
@Goettel 8 жыл бұрын
I loved my Juno-6 back in the day, but couldn't really get into the Polysix. The Juno was more inviting to program, probably because of sliders instead of knobs, and the chorus turned anything put through it into that warm, silky Roland sound many people (including me) seem to find appealing. Except the white noise, it turned that into jet engines ;-) The Polysix's ensemble isn't even in the same ballpark, and I prefered it off - except that left me with a raw sound I found very unappealing at the time. But listening to both now, what sounded cold to me back then now sounds great. The Polysix doesn't need a great chorus to give up its best sounds, which are in the lower and mid end. For higher up chorussed pads and strings, the Juno wins hans-down. To offset its mushy ensemble, the Polysix has a great phaser, giving a class of sounds the Juno can't do without help. At the end of the day, I'd have them both back: the Juno for strings and filler pads, the Polysix for phased sounds, bass and a certain coldness that I now find very appealing.
@stevecollierk1859
@stevecollierk1859 3 жыл бұрын
Had a polysix never got to program it. But i do miss this bit of kit
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 3 жыл бұрын
fantastic synth
@Theodora-pc8hi
@Theodora-pc8hi 8 ай бұрын
I had both at the same time.. I remember that the Polysix sounded "warmer", the Juno60 more sterile.. I hear this here too.. I also had another Polysix in the past, it was interestingly different from the later polysix, it sounded better for some reason, a series made for Norwegian import volt. The person I sold it to created a midi for it and called me several times to tell me what great patches I edited into it...
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 8 ай бұрын
🎹🙌🎹
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 3 жыл бұрын
The Korg Polysix Synthesizer from the year 1982 is a great polyphonic analog synth. For the most people the rival of the Roland Juno-60 but the sound character is very different. The P-6 sounds more like the 70s. Here can you find the full Polysix playlist with single sound demos and one synth demo tracks. Enjoy. The Polysix playlist ----> kzbin.info/aero/PLe08Lbpy8pPYxsuC2F38Gx2zkhCx4TmKX
@BobIGomez
@BobIGomez 8 жыл бұрын
I had a Juno 60 in the 80's, it was amazing, however I wonder why I haven't heard more about the Polysix especially since it seems to be more of an Analog instrument.
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 8 жыл бұрын
+Bob I. Gomez the P-6 was ever in shadow of the Juno.
@helisoma
@helisoma Жыл бұрын
the Juno is all analog...even the DCO is a digitally controlled analog oscillator
@GrahamLaight
@GrahamLaight 8 жыл бұрын
For me, the Roland sounds like a classier, more refined instrument - but I prefer the Korg because it sounds more like the synth pop era (which IMO ended around the mid-eighties when everyone and their dog started using them as a matter of course, and they thus became a little less special).
@jhelmwaterw
@jhelmwaterw Жыл бұрын
In 1982, I had about $1400 ready to drop on my first real programmable poly synth. I had already borrowed/used my friend's juno-6. I knew it's sound. I decided to test out the poly6. I went to the kb demo room and played the opening of "watcher of the skies" on the poly6. Done. Take my money. Wrap it up. No comparison.
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 Жыл бұрын
🙌
@klinkske
@klinkske 5 жыл бұрын
Lol. I forgot that i used to watch this video after work (nightshift) in the sofa with some great whiskey and a bag of chips. Then it gotten light outside and eventually i made it to bed 😂 Good times. Got both synths now. Juno was my latest score
@aletrodj
@aletrodj 7 жыл бұрын
I wanted to sell my polysix to buy a juno and this video made me change my mind
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 7 жыл бұрын
very different sound. you must have both. sorry ;)
@quarkyzarky
@quarkyzarky 7 жыл бұрын
I've had both (inc Juno 6, 60, 106 x 3 and even the alpha junos) had 2-3 polysix and still got a Polysix, to me it's easily the better synth in hardware. Juno (fast juno 60 envs aside) is not as worthy of owning in old hardware compared to Polysix which actually SOUNDS vintage and is very organic. Love the polysix filter and discreet VCOs too. Got bored with Juno everytime. For you of course you can own them all and keep them as you run a channel, but for many we need space/cash too so when making those kinds of choices I've many times chosen polysix over juno. Even though its tempting to keep juno as they sound so sweet, the polysix just kills it in the end and feels much more varied in scope of sounds and textures over many songs vs the juno which does basically 4-5 sounds (and variations on them) well but also very bland vs Polysix/VCO or 2 Osc VCO/DCO synths.
@djencode
@djencode 7 жыл бұрын
I just got my polysix serviced and listened to the tech's juno 60 and decided I also need both.
@rich8715
@rich8715 4 жыл бұрын
​@@quarkyzarky "kills it" lol.
@MIDERA
@MIDERA 3 жыл бұрын
@@kevinschoenbohm1611 Was going to say - 3 years ago, they were probably on par with each other, but for some reason, the Juno just jumped way up to the point of not even being obtainable for many (at $3000). To me, that's way too much and I'm sure 5 years from now someone will come around and say, "Yeah, but now they're worth $5000."
@asmusicnstuff4886
@asmusicnstuff4886 5 жыл бұрын
I much prefer the Polysix. I'm not saying that the Juno sounds bad but it's just not my thing and yes I have owned both. The other thing that helps put the Polysix above the Juno is its chord memory mode which you can use to essentially turn the Polysix into up to a six oscillator monosynth allowing it to well and truly get into Korg Monopoly territory.
@alphanumeric1529
@alphanumeric1529 6 жыл бұрын
Seems like it would be easier to replicate the Juno in digital as a vst, while the Korg has that muscle car sound that is so alive a static digital reproduction would evaporate in its presence.
@lqr824
@lqr824 6 жыл бұрын
I was thinking EXACTLY the same thing. I write digital synth software and my synth can do the random detunings etc. and yet is still missing some kind of "wet" quality the PolySix has. My software sounds pretty much like the Juno-60 and there's nothing special in my software that would make it so--just straightforward "by the book" oscillators and filters. I'd rather use software than the Juno-60. I could see actually getting a PolySix to do things I can't do with software.
@alphanumeric1529
@alphanumeric1529 6 жыл бұрын
@@lqr824 I know what you mean. But in the end, its just great that we have so many synths potentially at our disposal. Amazing time to be making music.
@helisoma
@helisoma Жыл бұрын
epic! 😎....subbed! (Juno-6 and Korg Prophecy owner 🤗)
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 Жыл бұрын
thank you
@mattmink6491
@mattmink6491 4 жыл бұрын
Just a note, the Juno 60 is in mono, and sounds considerably better in stereo....
@helisoma
@helisoma Жыл бұрын
i was thinking the same thing but apples to apples i guess
@rayramon5955
@rayramon5955 8 жыл бұрын
this is a great way to test vco vs dco I'm a juno fan but it sounds like we got are ass kicked in this video!!! either way both are great synths!
@stephmorzini2513
@stephmorzini2513 3 жыл бұрын
Korg Polysix of course ...
@tritonrecordings
@tritonrecordings 8 жыл бұрын
This is a tough call. I have a Juno 60 (best of all the Junos in my opinion) and I've been thinking about a Polysix. I definitely hear more liveliness in the Korg. It's also a bit dirtier, more aggressive sound. At the same time, one thing about the Juno 60 is that you can put it in any mix, and it just fits. I'm thinking the Korg's VCOs vs the Juno's DCOs lends to the Korgs more "unstable" character, and the filters obviously have their own character as well. Guess you just have to have both!
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 8 жыл бұрын
you must buy both! sorry. :D
@tritonrecordings
@tritonrecordings 8 жыл бұрын
I believe you are correct! By the way, I've watched your videos for years and years - always been a fan!
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 8 жыл бұрын
cool! thank you for the feedback. :))))
@carlottadefranchis2704
@carlottadefranchis2704 8 жыл бұрын
The Polysix was made in 1981 (not '82). Personally I prefer the Juno 60; the fact that you can select more waveforms at the same time gives you more flexibility in the creations of sounds.
@mrtibbs5543
@mrtibbs5543 7 жыл бұрын
I love synths!.
@drewwilliams85
@drewwilliams85 8 жыл бұрын
Both great, I like how dirty the Polysix sounds!
@drewwilliams85
@drewwilliams85 8 жыл бұрын
Except the Juno takes the cake on the 'lead' sound
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 8 жыл бұрын
+d85 agree with you
@paulfosgreen217
@paulfosgreen217 8 жыл бұрын
PolySix hands down winner for me.
@quarkyzarky
@quarkyzarky 8 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@quarkyzarky
@quarkyzarky 7 жыл бұрын
Same here and I've had them both (multiple times). Had all the junos and I do like them, Juno 60's punch arp'd bass is great, 106's soft pads are lovely, but overall the Polysix just feels like more synth and has more power, life and excitement to it. Juno sounds very static by comparison. Also both without effects/chorus etc = the Polysix wins on almost everything.
@rachelar
@rachelar 5 жыл бұрын
I like strings so it has to be juno
@tmengucor
@tmengucor 3 жыл бұрын
Both sound amazing but I prefer the fastest envelopes of the Juno.
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 3 жыл бұрын
Fair enough!
@kilésengati
@kilésengati 8 жыл бұрын
Based on this video I prefer the filter of the Polysix but I prefer the kicking arp, richer sounds and the overall package (interface, keyboard, outputs, etc.) of the Juno-60.
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 8 жыл бұрын
+kilésengati :)
@Hstburg
@Hstburg 8 жыл бұрын
Both are great synths. I think there is no winner. You should have them both. :-)
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 8 жыл бұрын
yes! :)
@MacXpert74
@MacXpert74 8 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison! The Juno 60 wins for me, but I'm biased ;) The Polysix is also very nice sounding. The ensemble effect gives it a nice swirly sound, which is great for strings sounds. But it's also a little "woolly" sounding. The Juno sounds much sharper and "to the point". In comparison to the Polysix it excelled on the arpeggios. The snappy envelopes on the Juno are much better for those kind of sound than the somewhat slow sounding envelope from the Polysix. But in general they are both great, and have their own strengths.
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 8 жыл бұрын
+MacXpert74 yes the P-6 with ensemble fx sounds a bit like a 70s stringmachine. the Juno is more raw. I like both. thanks for watching. :)
@drecksheep
@drecksheep 8 жыл бұрын
Hey ;-) ... am Filter wirds milder,aber nicht bei den beiden! Herrlich.Der PolySEX liegt bei mir aber vorn.Ich wünsche ein Wundervolles Wochenende!
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 8 жыл бұрын
+drecksheep Ja ordentlich Filterkaffee zum frühen Morgen. :) Dir auch ein schönes We!
@hafstrat
@hafstrat 8 жыл бұрын
A nice pair. Loving the korg especially.
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 8 жыл бұрын
+Howard Forton :) The Korg sound is a bit like a old stringmachine.
@Pecsinapilap
@Pecsinapilap 8 жыл бұрын
+RetroSound Yes, KORG is like an old string machine you said it right! For me Roland Juno is THE synth. I had both synths . The KORG was something to ignore, and the Juno was something to remember. I never felt inspired by the a polysix. Never! I tried. It didn't work on me. :) But the Juno was an instant wow and respect from me when I first tried it. Actualy I started a song quickly that turned out to be something great, it's titled: "When I Was Only Five" - the band was named: "The Casio Samles" ... so in that song the Juno's arpeggio was the inspiration for a very simple but great line of notes. (yeah tht was one of my bands.... years ago...)
@quarkyzarky
@quarkyzarky 8 жыл бұрын
Polysix does way more than 'old string machine' - for a start you turn the ensemble FX off. Juno is super popular and I like and have had both but the Polysix is very under-rated because few people have actually had one and programmed it (in modern times)
@teflondaprince
@teflondaprince 3 жыл бұрын
@@quarkyzarky great reply. The polysix is by far unmatched with its texture. Undeniable retro sound as soon as you turn it on
@Ssselini
@Ssselini 7 жыл бұрын
in my humble and very personal opinion this progression sounded best on the obxa! ^_^
@nicolasdwa
@nicolasdwa 8 жыл бұрын
Had both. Kept the Juno. But hearing the Korg again... :)
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 8 жыл бұрын
+nicolasdwa :)
@havijergarcic6227
@havijergarcic6227 8 жыл бұрын
nice stuff
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 8 жыл бұрын
thanks
@brodiecole8856
@brodiecole8856 5 жыл бұрын
Just scored a Polysix for $700! I checked it and it has no battery corrosion... Feeling soooo lucky rn.
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 5 жыл бұрын
:)
@pinkponyofprey1965
@pinkponyofprey1965 8 жыл бұрын
Both magificent but different. Two wells of joy! :D
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 8 жыл бұрын
+PinkPonyOfPrey :)
@fredtree1133
@fredtree1133 8 жыл бұрын
The Polysix sounds so much better. Really didn't expect there to be that much of a difference.
@quarkyzarky
@quarkyzarky 8 жыл бұрын
I've owned both and agree. Juno 60/106 do sound great BTW but next to a Polysix you can really tell which is the discreet VCO through SSM vs the very constrained 'rigid' and more static (but sweet sounding) Juno. Had all the Junos, they are gone but Polysix remains. It's way more flexible too (juno sounds tend to make the same few sounds over and over again while Polysix has a much better range from FX to unison basses)
@AdamTheAd-vanc3d
@AdamTheAd-vanc3d 8 жыл бұрын
+quarkyzarky Completly agree with your comment , i would go with an imperfect sounding synth with a vaster sound pallete.
@WinterFEgon
@WinterFEgon 4 жыл бұрын
Juno sounds better...
@stuartwilliams7371
@stuartwilliams7371 6 жыл бұрын
I had both but sold them, damn....
@almazmusic
@almazmusic 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm now choosing one of these but have Juno-106 and I want to buy Polysix but his 1 wave per OSC is ridiculous.
@WearySisyphus
@WearySisyphus 8 жыл бұрын
what do you mean ?
@quarkyzarky
@quarkyzarky 7 жыл бұрын
I've had juno 60, 106, polysix (and plenty others) and the only one I ultimately kept/loved was the polysix. And I actually prefered the tone/range of the 106 to the 60 so don't go for the 60 based on hype, it sounds a bit too juno if you get me? very very samey and static. 106 can sound gorgeous it just doesn't punch as fast on the envs (but is a bit more bassy in tone). Polysix is different, it wont be the same 'sweet' syrupy roland pads but it does far more that sounds like real analog, proper vintage analog and has a much higher range of sounds.
@KaiserWilhelmIV
@KaiserWilhelmIV 7 жыл бұрын
Juno 106 is nothing compared to 60
@three-leggedcat6241
@three-leggedcat6241 4 жыл бұрын
Both sounds very similar. Juno-60 is also a good sound. I own Polysix and am always impressed by this sound. And even though it's analog, the pitch is great, and even if it breaks down, Korg will still repair it. By the way, the pitch of MKS-80 is terrible...
@teflondaprince
@teflondaprince 3 жыл бұрын
Korg still does repairs on the P6??
@three-leggedcat6241
@three-leggedcat6241 3 жыл бұрын
​@@teflondaprince Three years ago, I had a technician involved in the production of the P6 completely repair it. If he still works there, I think he will repair it. Please contact Korg in Japan.
@AdamBorseti
@AdamBorseti 4 жыл бұрын
The KORG is more versatile by far with its multiple effects, chord and unison modes - that right there, the ability to do unison bass/leads is a massive advantage!
@lisadouglas3993
@lisadouglas3993 3 жыл бұрын
if you hold down the key transpose button before powering on and holding for 2 sec after the Juno 60 is in unison mode
@BedlamAndBones
@BedlamAndBones 7 жыл бұрын
I had a Juno 60 that I sold to buy a bass rig I needed for a band that ended up breaking up a year later. I regret that decision to this day. P.S. This room looks exactly like my ideal in-home studio should I ever win the lottery.
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 7 жыл бұрын
haha :)
@lorihersberger2399
@lorihersberger2399 8 жыл бұрын
Ein beliebter Vergleich. Der Polysix ist ohne Zweifel ein toller Analog-Klassiker: Klarer, abgerundeter Klang, sehr schöner, weicher Brass-Sound. Aber der Juno-60 ist aus meiner Sicht der eindeutige Gewinner, weil wuchtiger, schärfer, fetter und eleganter als der Polysix. Zudem besitzt er ein DCB-Interface, mit dem er sehr gut in ein MIDI-Umfeld eingefügt werden kann. Sicherlich, via Arp-Triggering, z.B. über einen TR-707, kann man das auch gut bewerkstelligen, aber mit einem Kenton DCB-Pro (oder dem ziemlich raren MD-8) ist die Einbindung letztlich idealer. Ein Juno-60 ist mit seiner Power unglaublich durchsetzungsfähig. Und er ist im Bass-, Pad-, wie auch im Solobereich ein Meister. Für mich ist er einer der besten Synthesizer aller Zeiten. Vielleicht sogar der beste, weil er kaum anfällig und stimmstabil ist.
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 8 жыл бұрын
stimmt
@Logansix
@Logansix 8 жыл бұрын
Ich hätte ihn nicht verkaufen sollen...
@jul3249
@jul3249 6 жыл бұрын
Such a shame the poly6 doesn't have a sustain pedal :( should be mandatory for any poly synths imo, really. I always wanted to get one but that one particular feature (or lack of) held me back every time...
@christofferainek
@christofferainek 5 жыл бұрын
Julien Chiasson the midi- and feature-kit for the P6 from tubutec adds a bunch of ”should hade been included”-features, Including a sustain pedal input. It’s very worth checking out.
@jul3249
@jul3249 5 жыл бұрын
@@christofferainek yep thanks! Prob is a poly6 is already expensive as is ;)
@skyprop
@skyprop 8 жыл бұрын
What's with the Added stuff on the 60??? Notice the four toggle switches on the far right
@xplorer3475
@xplorer3475 5 жыл бұрын
I prefer the Juno 60
@xvschneider2
@xvschneider2 5 жыл бұрын
Bicep made a brilliant track called "opal" using the polysix
@bozziewald
@bozziewald 5 жыл бұрын
How do you know it was the polysix!!??
@xvschneider2
@xvschneider2 5 жыл бұрын
Ryan Bostock they mentioned it on instagram. Apparently they also routed the sound through an eurorack filter as well
@jamesgevry4620
@jamesgevry4620 4 жыл бұрын
That Juno looks modded. Mine doesn’t have anything on the back panel right above the power cord. What is it?!? Tubbatec 66?
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 4 жыл бұрын
No. RetroSound mod.
@summerswinterer9247
@summerswinterer9247 7 жыл бұрын
Roland sounds friendlier and the Korg a bit horror show. Or maybe I was conditioned by watching too many John Carpenter movies in the 1980's.
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 7 жыл бұрын
:)
@reneotten2288
@reneotten2288 6 жыл бұрын
Summers Winterer I feel exactly the same, Korg = dark and I love it.
@SPAZZOID100
@SPAZZOID100 3 жыл бұрын
Carpenter did not use the polysix.
@Dailabsynth1
@Dailabsynth1 7 жыл бұрын
In this case the winner is KORG Polysix - more fat, more alive. Some of the sounds from Roland Juno-60 are static, but not always.
@Suzukisenpai
@Suzukisenpai 8 жыл бұрын
I think Korg sounds more alive but lacks in stability (i hear some up and down the pitch). Anyway, both synths sounds really nice. But my choice is P6 of course! =)
@djencode
@djencode 7 жыл бұрын
Just needs calibration. Just had mine calibrated and this fixes this issue.
@alphanumeric1529
@alphanumeric1529 6 жыл бұрын
Of course it is!
@validcore
@validcore 5 жыл бұрын
The polysix has VCO while the Juno DCO.
@TheSixfinger1
@TheSixfinger1 7 жыл бұрын
Polysix!
@nickcrider4309
@nickcrider4309 5 жыл бұрын
I wold kill for either of these. But guys, let's be honest. All hail the Polysix. Do wish it had that Juno chorus though...
@rydeentokio
@rydeentokio 8 жыл бұрын
Korg sounds thicker while Roland would cuts well in the mix and has presence.Fan fact: JUNO-6 was initially named POLY-6 but changed of cource because of Korg's Polysix. They are born to be rivals.
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 8 жыл бұрын
+rydeentokio agreed :)
@alphanumeric1529
@alphanumeric1529 6 жыл бұрын
Roland cuts well in the mix, but the Korg IS the mix.
@fernandofigueiraster
@fernandofigueiraster Жыл бұрын
Two nices synths!!! The soud of juno 60 is many clear brigth, but Korg Posix very nice bass sounds fat sounds hehehehe
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 Жыл бұрын
Yes agree with you
@Sonikbytes
@Sonikbytes 8 жыл бұрын
from this video , in my opinion it seems juno has more raw osc power, sounds thicker (perhaps better fx unit?) with more higher and low end frequencies present. Poly 6, on the other hand is better stringer and has sweeter sounding filter sweeps.
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 8 жыл бұрын
yes the Juno sounds more fat. The chorus fx is stunning. The P-6 is better for 70s like strings.
@nachom1971
@nachom1971 7 жыл бұрын
I've seen many polysixes go kaput. Juno doesn't only sound better, it is also a more reliable machine.
@alphanumeric1529
@alphanumeric1529 6 жыл бұрын
You do have a point. But race cars are meant to be worked on, while Porsches are meant to sit in their garages. Which would your rather have?
@kaitlynmoore9382
@kaitlynmoore9382 6 жыл бұрын
Any other suggestions for a NON midi NON saw synthesizer?
@Shred_The_Weapon
@Shred_The_Weapon 5 жыл бұрын
If I didn’t inherently know that the Juno’s oscillators were different from those in the Poly, I wouldn’t be able to tell them apart. Is it the camera angle, or does the Juno look 1 1/2 times bigger?
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 5 жыл бұрын
yes the cam angle
@gula_rata
@gula_rata 8 жыл бұрын
Very good. Make more video of Roland Vs Korg, Korg Vs Yamaha, Yamaha Vs Roland.
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 8 жыл бұрын
+Manabu Higa haha thanks
@JJ-us8lo
@JJ-us8lo 6 жыл бұрын
Korg all day
@helisoma
@helisoma Жыл бұрын
Juno all night 😂
@waldemarii
@waldemarii 8 жыл бұрын
Why tune is drifting in Polysix when you play arpeggio? Filter?
@user-qf4zs6qj4c
@user-qf4zs6qj4c 8 жыл бұрын
+RetroSound Why would that cause pitch drift though? It does seem to go out of tune, even my tin ear noticed. Cool comparison though. I have the Juno, and borrowed a P6 back in the 80s once. I thought it very dark and thick which I liked at the time. While the Juno is clearer and cleaner (and often thinner) I do like it too. There's room for both, they don't duplicate each other very much.
@FOCtv
@FOCtv 8 жыл бұрын
+Otto's Hobby Channel I heard that also. Lots of pitch drift during that section. It sounded like there was some slow LFO mod routed to pitch.
@danielkarlsson5161
@danielkarlsson5161 8 жыл бұрын
The pitch is routed to the LFO. You can see the LED indicator slowly light up as the pitch goes up, and go dark when the pitch goes down. Great video! :)
@FOCtv
@FOCtv 8 жыл бұрын
+Daniel Karlsson Good catch! Thanks.
@rachelar
@rachelar 5 жыл бұрын
First polysix sounds like overkill on the mushy ensemble tho
@stephanweber7961
@stephanweber7961 8 жыл бұрын
How did/do those old(er) arpeggiators work? in other words what was their configuration? I have a Novation Impulse MIDI controller, and it has an "arpeggiator"function, but this arpeggiator will only take whatever note that is being pressed and cycle either upwards or downwards through octaves of that note. (The number of octaves gone through is indicated by the "arp settings" - the value of which is specified by the user.) If a chord is being pressed, then it will sequentially take turns of each note and go though the octaves for each note in the order they are pressed.. For example: if notes C, D, and E are pressed in that order, cycling through the three notes - the sequence would stay within one octave if the Arp Settings have the 'Octave' set to 1. Should the 'Octave' be set to 2, it will play the three notes in the octave of the keys as they are pressed, and then play the three notes in the same order in an octave above (should the direction be set to 'Up' - if it were set to 'Down', the next octave would be below). etc., etc. SO, MY QUESTION IS: how do the "old" ("old" meaning of the era of the Juno-60 and Polysix)synths have their arpeggiators configured? Srely it is different than my Novation Impulse's arpeggiator is configured.. I see either a hardware or software arpeggiator that will arpeggiate incoming MIDI notes in a fashion similar to the way the Juno-60, Jupiter 6, Polysix, and others would.. PLEASE HELP????
@robertstickles2543
@robertstickles2543 7 жыл бұрын
The older arps do it the same way, though the *order* the notes are played in might be different depending on the synth. Polysix plays the notes in direction of the arp with no regard to the order pressed, and restarts the arp clock if you hold down a new note. Juno-60 plays the notes in order of press, so an up arp could cycle down from G to E within one octave before going to the next, but it's arp clock doesn't restart when you add a note. Jupiter-4 plays in held order but has no octave select, so where you start the arp makes a difference in how long the cycle is. Polysix has a chord mode that can also be arpeggiated, which can get pretty crazy sounding.
@Shred_The_Weapon
@Shred_The_Weapon 8 жыл бұрын
I can sort of tell the difference, but I would still be hard pressed to choose one over the other, no matter what's under the lid.
@skyprop
@skyprop 8 жыл бұрын
PolySix wins Hands down... Roland is close but it's DCO's Just Barely Miss the mark IMHO. I would take a Roland Juno 60 If I couldn't get a Polysix. I had a Juno-6 and moved to a Polysix So I may be a little Biased when it comes to the roland Juno 60
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