I just picked up a bare TD-07 module for a mini e-kit that I'm building. Cool feature that I've discovered: if you hold down enter, you can adjust the volume of your Bluetooth paired device independently of kit volume. This essentially gives you a separate mix in volume knob, which is really handy when playing along to music, something even the TD-17 doesn't have. It may not be important for everyone, but I find it very helpful personally.
@TheeDrumWorkshop2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, I missed that when I reviewed the kit! Nice spot!
@tkelly830 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this man!
@tkelly830 Жыл бұрын
How did you find this out? Was concerned about that because I play along alot to my music from phone.
@andrewcarpio1948 Жыл бұрын
awesome, thank you!
@Chosen1PR4 жыл бұрын
All I can say is thank God for competition! This kit is almost identical to my old TD-4KX2 (just worse crash and ride) which back in 2011 cost the same as the TD-17KVX costs now. Yay for Roland being more competitive at lower price tiers!
@TheeDrumWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
That's something I hadn't full considered, to be honest - the price compared to older kits rather than just what's been around recently. Will have to do some digging to gain some perspective on that front. Thanks!
@brandondrake80923 жыл бұрын
Also, I really wish Roland would take a hard look at acoustic drums and realize that the floor Tom is NEVER smaller than the snare!!! 😂 idk why that annoys me so much but could they really not see that when setting these kits up?? When I had my td-17kv, I had already purchased a pdx-100 for my td-11 and used it as the snare and moved the pdx-12 as the floor Tom. I’m sure many people would roll their eyes at me for this but it seems like almost every Roland kit has a larger snare than floor Tom. 🙄
@radrums73624 жыл бұрын
I love this new Roland kit. I'm guessing they'll launch a new TD-70 flagship in the near future.
@TheeDrumWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
Nice! What's your favourite thing about it?
@mikosoft3 жыл бұрын
I'd like those overhead settings in my TD17. Also, I'm glad I managed to get the 17K-L (price was my limitation) before they discontinued it to this, proper outputs to PA and sample import have been pretty critical for me. A tip for 07/17 and maybe 27 to get rid of that "Roland signature sound" - for each pad EQ reduce 3-4kHz by at least 4dB. It's where that resonant "swish" sound lives and I found when I did that it improved the overall sound pretty significantly. I also still tend to boost bass and highs a little and remove more of that 3-4kHz on the mixing console but it's a good start having that already done on the module itself.
@TheeDrumWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it would be great to have that feature on the 17 - it makes a surprising difference to the sounds. And good tip! I have a bad habit of using additive EQ a lot on Roland modules rather than subtractive, but when I do boost frequencies, it's usually on either side of that area so I'm not surprised you get good results from a cut around there. Roland sounds are definitely a bit top/high-mid focused which lends to their unnatural character.
@mikosoft3 жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop since I'm also dabbing in live sound and recording I heard a lot of pros talking about subtractive eq to quickly improve sound and I tend to use it when doing festivals where soundcheck time is very tight. Gets the job done quickly and if the instrument or player don't sound good to start no amount of eq will help anyway
@TheeDrumWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, definitely! There are areas of the toms and kicks that I tend to universally cut on most Roland sounds that carry over from acoustic drums too - cutting around 315Hz on the kick and a wide scoop around 630Hz on toms tend to clean up the boxy frequencies well, like on acoustics. It's just a shame that there's only the 3 bands on Roland's EQ settings.
@mikosoft3 жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop it's a challenge, sometimes I like to work around restrictions like that 😎
@TheeDrumWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
"Work around restrictions" should probably be Roland's slogan 😂 but yeah, I'm with you tbh, I do enjoy the process!
@rupertbeehsley16802 ай бұрын
I have had three v-drum kits but none has been able to provide a great snare sound, I am always glad to get back to one of my acoustic snares. Why is that?
@billymasters11 Жыл бұрын
I picked up a td-07kvx I think it solves some of the things you were complaining about. I’m not really a drummer but I like it a lot.
@brandondrake80923 жыл бұрын
Awesome review!! Thank you! I’m trying to decide between this and the TD-17kv. I’m an intermediate drummer that lives in an apartment and just wanting to play drums quietly. Either route I would plan on upgrading to a 3-zone ride (either the 13 or 15) and I’ve owned a TD-17 in the past. I’ve also owned a td-11 which I feel was up there in the same league as the 17 and 07. I was a huge fan of the cymbal sounds that the 17 had but felt like the snare and toms on the 11 were WAAAY better. I know that’s just my ear and personal precedence but based on the couple reviews I’ve seen, the 07 may have a slight edge on sound editing? But also for 350$ you get more sounds, bigger pads, and a better hi-hat controller with the 17. So I guess I need to decide if I want to spend 350$ on the all-around kit upgrade or spend it on a ride cymbal. 🤣 sounds like I’m more venting my decision process than commenting but you did such a good job at reviewing and comparing!! 🙏🏼👍
@luis2arm11 ай бұрын
great and instructive video! I just purchased one after your video and I've been playing around for some days. Sad I can't import your libraries. Question! Can I purchase your 'settings' as pdf instructions for this module? I looked around your website but had no luck.
@kevinstuart56942 жыл бұрын
I purchased this a month ago after not playing consistently for fifteen years and am having a lot of fun. In store testing and the first few days for me were NOT as "just riding a bike". I was terrible and after not playing for many years along with being a lefty trying to play righty kits on display was disheartening. Within a few days and while conjuring images and sayings from my amazing teacher "Muzz!" I was about where I left off except my sticking and grip is much inproved. Being able to drum in an apartment building at night is something. During each session I remove my headphones to make sure it's not real kit. I use #15 "groove" kit the most but I want to see if I can add the kick from #1 studio kit. Feels great to play again when ever I want!
@TheeDrumWorkshop2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic!
@filipoflop4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Even as a beginner, the lack of an upgrade path puts me off
@TheeDrumWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! And yeah, that's a shame. I don't think it would've been too much to ask to allow dual zone toms if you want them.
@jerrodhohn77123 жыл бұрын
When I was much younger, I had a large Rogers set ( around 17 piece) but I haven't played with any regularity for over 20 years. Being married now and having a son, I decided to jump back into it. I'm blown away at how far electric drums have come in that time. So, I did my research and ended up buying this kit. I've had it a couple of weeks now and absolutely love it! The only thing I've found so far that bothers me is that it doesn't have a genuine rim click sound. It has a rimshot sound but not an actual rim click sound. Other than that, I love it.
@essenter42223 жыл бұрын
But it has rim click sound, you just need to use manual and look for Crossstick or XStick function
@conor6164 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this review - clear and concise. This is definitely going on the list (new learner) - probably the best kit for around the $1,500 (AUD) price point, from what I can tell.
@nathangraf12225 ай бұрын
Just got this kit! I’m looking to up my cymbals and get a china cymbal. Also, double bass pedal fits with plenty of room on the bass stand, so that’s nice. I am bummed that I have to choose china or ride with bell though. Crash, china, and ride are a must for me though
@Utoober-yp7mf13 күн бұрын
Is the single output connection on the TD-07 affect the sound quality? We plan to purchase this kit and connect to a digital mixer
@davidcode834 жыл бұрын
Roland at its best supplying the fd1 hi hat control pedal with this kit. It is so out of its depth compared to the kd10 and all mesh pads. They always make you upgrade the worse 1 or 2 components on the basic kits. The fd9 would be the perfect addition to the kit. Well done roland I just spent another $200.
@kikodrums92394 жыл бұрын
That’s actually the best “Metal” preset kit I’ve heard on a module. Some are labelled Metal, and sound absolutely nothing like any Metal recording I’ve ever heard.
@TheeDrumWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
I agree that most miss the mark, I was pleasantly surprised!
@spideliciousx98224 жыл бұрын
I agree, I was very surprised when I saw that kit as "Metal" and even sounded metal........ The best example of metal on a EKit (from factory) I've heard.
@kikodrums92393 жыл бұрын
@@spideliciousx9822 It’s about time Drum Companies started making better presets. I started on a Yamaha 502 module and while I liked it, some of the presets were daft. The metal one sounded like someone heard a Disturbed track played on a Nokia and tried to replicate the drum sound in 10 seconds.
@ianhinrichsendrummer2113 Жыл бұрын
I find on almost all roland modules that the kits they have aren't really very well put together. Thankfully you can custom design your own. If you listen to drum covers, often you'll find that the tons and the ride don't cut through the mix and have to have the volume raised.
@kushking4204 жыл бұрын
I just got into e-drums a few months ago with my td 27kv, i really enjoy the snare ride and hi hat, the module is great too, my only dislike is that it comes with a cable snake, at least it has 3 auxiliary , 1 foot switch, and an extra usb input for hopefully a digital hi hat
@TheeDrumWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
Glad you're enjoying it! I've just had chance to try out the TD-27 today, I'm really impressed with it! Coming off the back of using all the other Roland modules, it's probably the best value offering, but I agree about the cable snake being an unfortunate thing. I'd personally like it to be made of something a bit tougher than plastic too, but otherwise it's a great module so far!
@pranavtewari594811 ай бұрын
Which e kit is better in your opinion? Alesis crimson 2 or Roland TD 07 KV? Prices of both the kits are almost same.
@ouime602 жыл бұрын
If I’ve got £1,000 to spend on an e-kit what would you recommend? I’m tired of looking at reviews and just want to buy something. I’ve played acoustic kits for many years and want an e-kit just for practice and a bit of fun.
@VdrummerStixx7774 жыл бұрын
Td-7 was my first e-kit all PD-7 pads and the inverted kick pedal (KD-7) in 1997 or 1998, still have a working PD-7 pad from that kit.
@TheeDrumWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
Nice! It's interesting to see how much/little has changed in some respects since then. What have you used since?
@VdrummerStixx7774 жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Played the TD-7 kit live with an Octopad 2 until I got the TD-10 kit in 2000 or 2001. Had the same KD-7 bass drum pedal but the mesh heads and PD-9's for the cymbal pads. Used that live and upgraded to the V-Cymbals, the mesh kick drum, TMC-6 MIDI expansion module, and a green Visu-Lite china cymbal with a really thick mouse pad glued to reduce the noise of the cymbal. Stop playing live and just playing at church with this kit. It was stolen from the church and then I got a TD-20 kit with an SPD-S The did steal the cymbal pads so know I had a total of 4 CY-12 and 2 CY-15R. Played this kit until last year when I replace the TD-20 with a TD-50 with the digital snare and ride and the 22" kick drum kit. Am play this kit now and have a TD-4 kit for practice at home and rock band. Plan to swap out the toms pads for full size pads. I used standard Roland sounds for live and recordings until I got the TD-50 and I use V-Expression sounds for the most part now.
@jonathanbott11444 жыл бұрын
@@VdrummerStixx777 I still have a Td-7. In fact only got it two weeks ago.
@VdrummerStixx7774 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanbott1144 I loved that module it had some cool sounds, the gun shot and timbale sounds are great
@jonathanbott11444 жыл бұрын
I have yet to really get to grips with it. The TD-5 was pretty easy to master, I am lending that to my friend so he can at during lockdown. The KD-7 is incredible in that they have been making it for nearly 39 years and it is still in production.
@johnburkhalter38802 жыл бұрын
This would be a great module if you want to practice at home but have flexibility to use vst for recording.
@elbercore2 жыл бұрын
I'm a drummer for 12 years and never had a real drum kit before, because of noise issues and not having a place for a real drum kit in my house. I get married and moved with my wife to an apartment. In one of the empty room i decided to place a e-drum kit and i bought an begginers kit from a local brand (i'm from Brazil). The module is just a copy of some Carlsbro module, the pads are all rubber and all dual zones, having 3 cymbals (2 crash and 1 ride) and 4 tons (2 tons and 2 floor toms). But the sensitivity and the sounds were really simple. This year a sold it and in May i bought this Roland TD-07Kv kit. The sounds are amazing, the mash pads for tons and snare are really good and the triggering are tight! But i really get a little disappointed with the limitations on the module. Just one extra cable, making us obligatorily sacrifice an extra pad just to use the cable as a trigger to the bell zone on a better ride cymbal is barelly a shame. I reallt love the sounds of the samples, but is really limited. Just 5 snare sounds. Ok, we can change a lot of their soundings on the module, but we have a lote more kick drum soundings. Same for the tons sounding, there's not too much sound options. But for this price range, a module that make us able to change sizes, pitchs, muffleling, overheads, rooms, the drum heads and even the beaters is such a good thing! The foot pad for the hi hat is not that good, but we are able to upgrade it to and VH 11, which is very expensive here in Brazil, but is an awesome upgrade. I think i will change just the module one day, to an TD-17 just to be able of using more pads (i normaly use 3 cymbals on a real kit)
@ianhinrichsendrummer2113 Жыл бұрын
5 snare sounds? That's a deal breaker for me.
@elbermrock Жыл бұрын
@@ianhinrichsendrummer2113 5 acoustic snare sounds...and 2 or 3 electronic snare sounds...you can change transient, eq, etc, and it will change the sound of the samples
@ianhinrichsendrummer2113 Жыл бұрын
@@elbermrock ot good enough, the td11 has about a hundred or more?
@elbermrock Жыл бұрын
@@ianhinrichsendrummer2113 don't know. Never played another Roland kit before
@ianhinrichsendrummer2113 Жыл бұрын
@@elbermrock 👍🏻
@LTColumbOX4 жыл бұрын
Hi. Great video. I'm the target buyer.. I'm looking to upgrade my kit from TD 1 kv. I use electronic kits just for practice, and my wife and neighbour would love to know if this kit is quiet? That is a major requirement. My current kit makes a right racket, especially rubber toms and the cymbals. I'd upgrade hihat if possible. Anyway, all the best
@TheeDrumWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
Hey! Thanks for watching! Hmm, the kit is quiet as far as eDrums go - the mesh all round helps that, much quieter than the thudding you get from rubber pads. The cymbals will likely be the same sort of volume as the cymbals that came with your TD-1KV setup (they're nicer but the construction is similar). The kick drum pad/tower is the one part of electronic drums that is always difficult to make quiet. It might be a touch quieter than your current one as it's a sort of fabric mesh rather than rubber and it's not attached to the rack, but the vibrations through the floor will always be a factor. This will probably be the only part though, as opposed to all of the toms like the TD-1, and you can get softer beaters or the Roland noise eaters that can reduce the noise if you need to. Hope that helps!
@philipdaniels18174 жыл бұрын
Good having an "affordable" kit, I need one since I sold my TD 7. Still no downloads to upgrade or add sounds, like the Strikeforce. don't get me wrong I would still buy the Roland for low latency and "good" sounds, or use a laptop. Not sure if I even like TD 07, TD 17 sounds . One of these "smaller" kits would fit in my apt ...
@jonathanbott11444 жыл бұрын
Get a Td-1K and Steven Slate Drums free edition.
@jonathanbott11444 жыл бұрын
Btw I have a TD-1k, and also a TD-7, a TD-5 and a TD-12. I was really impressed by the TD-1K sounds. I also thought the TD-1K would be a bit unstable, but it was fine. Super compact.
@CAWITAN Жыл бұрын
Hey I’m new to drumming. What cable is it called to plug into an amplifier?
@tartancobbler72424 жыл бұрын
looking forward to the shootout, I am eager to upgrade my yamaha dtx400... surely the td17kv makes much more sense with it's better hh pedal and dual zone mesh toms for the relative small price increase?
@TheeDrumWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
The price difference is about £300/the equivalent, so it's no small jump at a third again on top. But I know what you mean, for some it will be a much better value proposition, along with the ability to layer sounds and import samples!
@johndef50753 жыл бұрын
Better module too.
@steevidrums4 жыл бұрын
Seems like a great kit for starter... limited in it's upgradability, but have to remember it's target audience. But on the whole, it's great. Sounds are decent, being a roland no doubt it plays great out of the box (very important for a newbie) 10/10 from me. Also 10/10 for the video... you're hitting home run after home run with these vids Luke.
@TheeDrumWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, absolutely! I'm always trying to work out the balance between what eDrum gear-heads like and who these kits are aimed at because they're definitely different worlds! It's a fun kit, for sure! And thanks dude, really appreciated! Cheers for checking the video out!
@hoff24552 жыл бұрын
Trying to decide between TD-07KX package that includes kick pedal and headphones or for $100 less the TD-17KV that also includes headphones. With the TD-07KX, it has additional crash cymbal, but single zone toms, whereas the TD-17KV has dual zone toms and more upgradeable, albeit older module, plus the ~$114 saved could go toward a Ludwig Speed Flyer Pedal. Is there any reason I should consider the TD-07KX?
@mayme47433 жыл бұрын
this will be my first ever drum and I don't really understand but from the overall and comments, I assume its quite good. are there any other not too expensive electric drum that you recommend?
@TheeDrumWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, overall it's a very good package for beginners, though maybe a little pricey. There's room to grow with the sounds available and the components are very durable and reliable, so it should last a long time and re-sell at a good price if you ever wanted to upgrade. It's hard to recommend many of the cheaper kits though as I've personally had quality issues with Alesis products and haven't tried any of the others myself. Hope that helps!
@mayme47433 жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop tysm
@GuitarJawn3 жыл бұрын
I have around $1500 to spend on an e-kit, it will be my first kit. I don't need to spend the entire amount but do you have any recommendations? This Roland kit seems solid but what the hell do I know. Also that eDW snappy sounded really good.
@commuterbranchline81322 жыл бұрын
That was very informative, thank you for posting. I'm about to buy an e drum kit and am undecided between this kit, the TD-17 and a Yamaha Dtx range. budget is up to 1500 Pounds and while the 07 looks great id rather have a hihat stand and convemtional pedal. decisions decisions.....
@TheeDrumWorkshop2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful. Good luck with the decision, it's never an easy one!
@AP5303 ай бұрын
Can you record stereo wav (L/R) out of 1/8 output of roland td07 into 1/4 inputs on like a Zoom r8 or does anyone make a usb output to 1/4 l/r cable??? Thanks
@marko_992 жыл бұрын
Hi!Do someone know what is best impedance of headphones for 07 module?Tnx
@IMaybe9113 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the review! I see you have the rokit speakers: do you know if they are suitable with the new td07 module? I am afraid to blow them up with the kick..
@TheeDrumWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for watching! No, I wouldn't use studio monitors as a form of amplification for eDrums (or anything, tbh). They're for mixing and referencing, not for amplifying. The best things to use for amplifying electronic drums are PA speakers (most tend to use active speakers so you don't also need an external amp), preferably at least 12" PA speakers, but 15"+ is better.
@IMaybe9113 жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop thank you so much for the tips! Take care!! :)
@TheJuliocustom Жыл бұрын
hello! In the video you say that the TD07 module does not support dual zone pads, but this module also equips the VAD103 model which does have dual zone pads, so does the TD07 support dual zone toms? Greetings from Argentina
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Hey! No, unfortunately not. Someone with a VAD306 kit messaged me a while ago because they thought they were doing something wrong with the rims but I believe the module itself doesn't support it - the toms have mono cables on the cable snake and there is only a "head" instrument channel/zone for the toms on the module too.
@TheJuliocustom Жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Even the PDX-6 pads that come with the TD07 models according to the Roland website are dual zone pads, but the module cables are mono so you can't use both channels, a pity. greetings!
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Interestingly, Roland actually make both single zone and dual zone PDX-6 pads and I think the ones provided with the TD-07 are single zone. They don't sell those single zone ones separately though, I'm pretty sure they're only bundled with their cheaper kits and aren't explicitly labelled as such. I could be wrong but I think the review model ones I tried were wired as single zone.
@TheJuliocustom Жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Weird things about Roland jaja, Thank you very much for your answers!!
@giannispan81293 жыл бұрын
Which model do you recommend for purchase? Kv or kvx? Do hi hats and skates have a big difference in feel in the kvx version?
@TheeDrumWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
There isn't a TD-07KVX model, unfortunately!
@zephyrp88362 жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop There is now ;D
@TonyDiaz.2 жыл бұрын
I'm new to V-Drums and have a quick question: does the Bluetooth functionality mean that I can sync the module to a Bluetooth speaker of some sort and listen to my drumming? Sorry, I'm kinda of a noob. :(
@TheeDrumWorkshop2 жыл бұрын
No need to apologise, we all start somewhere! Unfortunately not, no - the Bluetooth is only for audio coming into the module (so to hook up a phone to play music through your kit, for example). Bluetooth has too much latency (delay) for playing the drum audio through Bluetooth headphones or speakers - there would be noticeable lag from hitting the pad to hearing the sounds, so no manufacturers build that option in. For sound coming in, that isn't an issue. Hope that helps!
@TonyDiaz.2 жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Cool! Thanks for your reply!
@ΣωτήρηςΧαμπιπης3 жыл бұрын
Γεια σας πως μπορώ ηχογραφήσω και ηχώ και εικόνα μαζί για drums cover μπορείτε να με βοηθήσετε σας παρακαλώ δεν ξέρω αγγλικά γι'αυτό γράφω ελληνικά ?
@DaddyDaveTV2 жыл бұрын
Is TD-07KV triple zone ride and dual cymbal?
@TheeDrumWorkshop2 жыл бұрын
It comes with a dual zone ride pad as standard (a CY-8), but it can support a 3 zone ride if you swap it out for a 3 zone pad like a CY-13R/15R etc. The bell zone uses up the Crash 2 input though and you need to swap modes on the module to enable it. The crash and hi-hat are both dual zone, yes.
@metalsound902 жыл бұрын
If I wanted to use it with a double pedal, is this model more suitable or the TD-07MDK?
@TheeDrumWorkshop2 жыл бұрын
Both of them can accommodate double kick pedals, so it comes down to whether or not you want a separate tower or not. I personally prefer separate because it reduces the chance of crosstalk through the rack but it depends on your preferences and needs.
@Mr_Tummy4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Thinking back to my journey I started with the TD-1 series, primarily to see if I liked drums as an instrument, upgraded to the TD-25, and finally to the TD-50. My thoughts on the line: - For the beginner: I'd kill the TD-1K, offer a $200-$300 version of the TD-1DMK with rubber toms, with an upgrade path to mesh toms, etc. Total investment of $750 over time. - For the drummer ready to move to the intermediate stage, The TD-07 is priced right at $1000, but Roland should of added support for all the non-usb pads and the module features of the TD-17 and eliminate the TD-17. As with the low end, topping out at a $1750 total investment over time. - For the "pro" drummer - the current VAD/TD-27/TD-50 offering, but I'd start the lowest model at $2000.
@StanPuftone4 жыл бұрын
1- Err....The TD-1K is the rubber pad version of the TD1DMK 2- The TD-17 is at the $1750 price point, & to upgrade to USB pads would cost a fortune. No way can you add those & sell it for $1750 3- The technology won't allow the price to be that low at the moment. Unless you want Roland to disregard all quality control & manufacture their stuff in back alley electronics workshops.
@Mr_Tummy4 жыл бұрын
@@StanPuftone 1- Err....The TD-1K is the rubber pad version of the TD1DMK - Yeah so the beginner drummer has a few options: - drop $500 for the TD-1K and stop there, all good. The only risk, the cost comparison to a (probably cheaper) acoustic kit (max spend $500) - drop $700 for the TD-1DMK, assuming they are comfortable spending that amount before knowing if they like playing drums (max spend $700) - drop $500 for the TD-1K and if they like playing drums and decide to upgrade to mesh, sell the TD-1K and drop another $700 for the TD-1DMK (max spend $1200) So IMO, if Roland offered a single and expandable beginner kit, with a low entry point that's affordable for Mom/Dad, and if the drummer decides drumming is not for them, a lower amount of money risked, but if they enjoy drumming, spending additional $ to upgrade over time, to a level, just below Roland's intermediate kits. 2- The TD-17 is at the $1750 price point, & to upgrade to USB pads would cost a fortune. No way can you add those & sell it for $1750 - I'm not suggesting the TD-17 get upgraded to support USB pads at a $1750 price point. Let's talk about the drummer who's looking for a mid range kit. It looks like the TD-07 is a dead end (e.g. does not support 2 trigger pads), so what's the upgrade path, drop another $1750 for the TD-17, or a cheaper option swap to the TD-17 module? Again, IMO I'd offer a $1000 intermediate kit that supports the full range of non-usb pads/cymbals and give the drummer the ability to upgrade over time, just below Rolands top range kits. 3- The technology won't allow the price to be that low at the moment. Unless you want Roland to disregard all quality control & manufacture their stuff in back alley electronics workshops. - Clarified in #2 above.
@hvhvgitaar4 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Had it been around a year ago, I might have been keen. As an absolute (middle aged 😀) beginner , I went for the TD1-DMK about a year ago. Getting a bit frustrated with the module limitations, thinking now about a TD17 module upgrade. Is the TD07 sold separately as a module ? If so, does it make sense? I suppose I have to wait for the shootout 😉. Subscribed...
@TheeDrumWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
I don't know if the module will be available separately. It wouldn't surprise me if it is (as the 17 etc are), but I don't think the TD-1 is so I'm not 100% sure! I think that both the 07 and the 17 modules are a very good upgrade from the TD-1. But yes, the shootout might help you decide! :)
@hvhvgitaar4 жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop thanks
@865354hayden2 жыл бұрын
is this something you would use at gigs?
@TheeDrumWorkshop2 жыл бұрын
Personally, probably not. The lack of independent outputs and volume make it awkward for that. It's not impossible to do but you'd probably require additional hardware for it.
@865354hayden2 жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop even with a speaker?
@TheeDrumWorkshop2 жыл бұрын
Maybe if you only wanted to hook up to a speaker and not use any kind of personal monitoring (like in-ear monitors or headphones) and you didn't need to send a separate line to the front of house, then that might work for you. I don't use my electronic kits that way so I wouldn't personally do it, but if you only need to send the audio to one place (or you have a way of splitting it) then that might work for you.
@ianhinrichsendrummer2113 Жыл бұрын
Almost all edrum kits will sound better and more manageable than an acoustic kit at gigs. (without the excessive din they create) Edrums through a decent PA or 15 " active speaker as a monitor sound amazing.
@josch57682 жыл бұрын
hey bro question, do you know how to achieve cross stick on this kit, i did the XStickSens, but still not working i can still hear the snare. thanks for the help
@TheeDrumWorkshop2 жыл бұрын
Hey! There are a couple of things it might be. First off - is your module definitely picking up the fact that you are hitting the snare rim zone? When you hit it, the "SN" symbol under the Instrument selection should show an R next to it for the rim. If your module isn't picking this up properly, you might need to change trigger types, adjust the H/R Adjust setting (p.22 of the manual) or check that the cables or pad are working correctly by testing them with other pads/cables on the loom. If it is picking up the rim correctly and you've definitely enabled the XstickSens parameter, the only other thing that comes to mind is that certain snare sounds don't have cross-stick sounds on them. Only some of them do - typically the acoustic style snares in the first Snare instrument group (Mahogany through to Piccolo, I think). I don't own the module myself so I can't really try to troubleshoot it much further than that, but I hope it helps!
@josch57682 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Appreciate it man ❤️
@RustyRaceHorse Жыл бұрын
Where did you get your pug shirt?
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Can't remember exactly where I got it, but it's a Jack and Jones t-shirt.
@blindsidesdarjeeling55443 жыл бұрын
Can I add another extra c13r ride ? Will the bell zone work .?
@TheeDrumWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately not, most Roland modules (all of the new ones, for sure) only support one 3 zone ride. There aren't enough inputs on this module to support many additions either.
@blindsidesdarjeeling55443 жыл бұрын
Thanks you so much for the reply.
@BuzzGarwood3 жыл бұрын
So wait, I bought this kit as well as a new CY-13r Ride…can you walk me through what I need to do to get the bell zone working? Currently when I plug it in, the bell sounds like a crash. Also, which inputs go where? Do I just need to plug in one? When I unplug one of the cymbals, that leaves me with two 1/4 plugs (labeled RD and CR2). And there are two inputs on the ride itself. Do I have to plug in both? If I only have to plug in one, does that afford me an additional 1/4 plug which I can use assign to an additional cymbal?
@bennettheyn2 жыл бұрын
How did you get them to send you a free sample?
@TheeDrumWorkshop2 жыл бұрын
They reached out to me and asked if I would like to use one for videos on my channel.
@astronaut2005drummer4 жыл бұрын
I liked your review. Seems to be a nice kit to replace my Roland HD-3.
@TheeDrumWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yes, it would certainly be a good upgrade from that kit!
@botsunny0133 жыл бұрын
Hey there! So all I need to get a ride cymbal with a functioning bell zone is to get the CY-13R, plug it into the CR2 input, and set the sound to RDB? This will give me a 3 zone ride with the appropriate sounds for edge, bow and bell? And I can set the original ride to any sound I want?
@TheeDrumWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, though there's one more step. In the SETUP > PAD menu, there's an option for CR2Usage. You'll need to swap that to "RDB". That will then make that input act as the ride bell. You won't need to swap the sound yourself, it will play the bell sound associated with the ride assigned to the ride pad (though you can change it if you want). Hope that helps!
@botsunny0133 жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Oh I see. And after setting the CR2Usage input to RDB, the edge and the bow zones will also be assigned the appropriate edge and bow sounds?
@TheeDrumWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
The ride edge and bow will already be assigned to your "normal" ride input, changing pads shouldn't change that assignment :)
@botsunny0133 жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Oh I get it, thanks so much!
@spiralkineticfitnessmaster76093 жыл бұрын
Hey there... Question: Are these drums easily tuneable? Meaning...do you have access to changing the pitch on each one? Or is the pitch fixed and not adjustable? thanks much!
@TheeDrumWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
Hey! Yes, you can tune any instrument with the pitch control in the Kit Edit menu :) Cheers!
@joshbann63354 жыл бұрын
So is the module the main difference between this kit, and the TD-1dmk?
@TheeDrumWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
That and the standalone kick tower (KD-10). The TD-1DMK has one of those little rubber pads that attaches to the rack.
@johyol7444 жыл бұрын
And td07 has also different crash and ride cymbals CY8. td 1dmk has all cymbals CY5
@TheeDrumWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
Good spot, I didn't actually notice that on the TD-1DMK!
@ReignJeffersonCTria4 жыл бұрын
I like it's improvements from the td17kl except for the toms.. I don't think roland really knows that nobody likes those small pads with the inner plastic rim
@TheeDrumWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I wish it had bigger toms to be honest. Or maybe even if the PDX-6 and PDX-8 pads were re-vamped to be more in line with the newer PDX-12, that might be nice.
@ReignJeffersonCTria4 жыл бұрын
Or maybe a slightly bigger floor tom would be a bit nicer... i'd rather have big rubber pads than small mesh pads.. It's just me
@matt_nyc_audioengineer4 жыл бұрын
As a non-Roland user (Alesis Strike Pro SE), I thought this little kit was pretty good! The only problem I have is the price!! It's always the price with Roland. I understand the features, the reliability, and everything in between but $1,000 for this......... SMH. If they put the price point where it should be (between $600-$750 in my opinion), they would OWN the market at that level. I feel like it's a real missed opportunity for Roland. When will they learn?? But, I suppose as long as you have people willing to pay the price, why should they change it?!
@TheeDrumWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I pretty much agree with that. $100-200 off it would do wonders for the perceived value but, as you say, if people are happy to pay for it then I suppose that's how it'll stay.
@johnsonmathew85653 жыл бұрын
Hi Request from india, could you please review carlsbro csd 600 as it is similar price point and there's not a single proper review on it
@TheeDrumWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
Hello! Thanks for commenting! I was kindly sent this kit to review by Roland - I would probably only be able to review the Carlsbro kit too if they offered to send me a review kit. Due to the price of each product in the electronic drum market, I can only review items I can justify purchasing or ones that are sent as review units at the moment. Hope you understand, fingers crossed that they might send review units out if they deem it worthwhile!
@fauzanhilmyabyan84224 жыл бұрын
Is support to play crossstick on snare ?
@TheeDrumWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
Yes, there's a setting to turn cross-stick on. It then works based on how hard you hit the rim - once you hit harder than a certain amount, it will play a rimshot instead.
@philipTOMPSETT4 жыл бұрын
Anyone know if I can get it to play Joy Division sounding drums?
@walterduran97743 жыл бұрын
you mean to tell me Roland will take the kit back lol thanks for the review
@TheeDrumWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
Haha yeah, it's not for keeps, I'm afraid! There's an in-depth full review coming soon!
@johndef50754 жыл бұрын
Didn't know they made a single zone pd-8.
@TheeDrumWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't think they usually advertise them or sell them separately, for the most part. They're pretty much just bundled in with the lower end kits, like the generic hi-hat pedal (FD-1).
@jonathanbott11444 жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Pd-8A
@spideliciousx98224 жыл бұрын
Definitely not aimed at me. But even for a beginner, its a big hit to the wallet for what is essentially, a practice kit with little to no upgradability??? If as a beginner, It would make me really think twice before getting it. I would have looked a lot harder at the step up kit with far better upgradability, when your shelling out that amount of cash? Particularly when early on as your skill accelerates, you'll be looking far earlier to upgrade than some one with moderate to good skills with a kit your happy with..... bit like small children, they grow out of clothes very quickly as opposed to older kids..... hopefully that analogy makes sense? lol IMO, it needs a price point to reflect its target, beginners who would be looking fairly quickly to upgrade..Paying big bucks for your beginner kit is going to hamper those wanting to upgrade in the near future. As such, people would either go for the kit above this for better long term value, or go to the opposition and get a better entry kit price??
@spideliciousx98224 жыл бұрын
Just to clarify, I think build wise and the included hardware, its an excellent beginner kit. As a beginner, I would have been VERY happy with something like this, BUT at a good beginner price ;-)
@TheeDrumWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
The price and size of the toms are my main contention with it, really. It's been received pretty well by a lot of beginners, from what I've read in the groups though. I think I paid ~£700 for my TD-3 kit years ago, would have been nice to see this at that price point.
@yonrodriguez74713 жыл бұрын
Como oírlo en casrellano
@yonrodriguez74713 жыл бұрын
Como oírlo en castellano,
@journeyseb4 жыл бұрын
For a second there I thought they had launched a new flagship TD-70... :-(
@TheeDrumWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
Will be interesting to see if they do bring out a new flagship any time soon.
@journeyseb4 жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop I hope so as I sold my TD-50 kit 6 months ago while it had full value in the hopes that a new fully digital flagship would be launched.
@TheeDrumWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
That might have been a little premature! I understand why you'd want to get a good return on it, but I'm not convinced they'll release a new flagship until late on next year at the earliest. I have no info about it so I'm just guessing, but the way they've slowly rolled out each tier in this lineup makes me think it'll be around for a while. Definitely could be wrong. Not sure the whole kit would benefit from being digital either, would definitely end up expensive!
@journeyseb4 жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop I’m surviving on a used TD-11 for now. I made a bet that I will live with. Really hoping for at least a digital hi-hat on the next flagship and better sounds. I really would like to get away from VST’s and use the module exclusively.
@TheeDrumWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
Fair play to you! I'm hoping for a digital hi-hat too! I've just been using a TD-27 today and I'm really impressed with the sound options on it. The overheads option really makes everything pop, I see now why the TD-07 works so well with it. They seem to have been refining the sounds over the course of this generation so hopefully the next generation sees some genuinely good sounds from the box!
@geraldroraback54323 жыл бұрын
As a long time musician and professional drummer there is nothing like the real deal. Singerland or Ludwig. Any thing else is like sleeping with a telephone pole.
@johndef50753 жыл бұрын
I cant practice at 11pm on my Ludwigs. I can on my Roland set. One of the main reasons people buy them. And they are just plain fun.
@geraldroraback54323 жыл бұрын
@@johndef5075 Ok, if it works for you fine. Enjoy them.
@ianhinrichsendrummer2113 Жыл бұрын
I've never heard any acoustic kit sound better than an edrum kit. Never. They sound like tin cans in comparison to the high end, stereo, studio quality sound of decent edrums. But.... ea to their own I suppose. Once I'd heard decent edrums, I never went back to acoustics and probably never will. Too loud and zero bass with acoustics - not to mention the incessant DIN they create. No wonder most rock drummers are half deaf.
@devyneynes84873 жыл бұрын
the natural sounds of the snare drum are terrible, they all sound weak and plastic. Nothing to do with the old td-7 and I'm a Roland fan, a shame!
@philipdaniels18174 жыл бұрын
Dude, do you realize you play all single strokes? work the triplets man ...
@TheeDrumWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
Nah, there's a few 6 stroke rolls in there. And the first drum-only demo starts with a RLL fill 😅
@Mr_Tummy3 жыл бұрын
Looks like Roland just introduced the TD-27K, a lower priced kit in the TD-27 range that supports the digital (usb) snare/ride, curious what the price will be, not on Sweetwater site yet.
@TheeDrumWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
Ah yeah, I saw someone post about it yesterday thinking it was just a store configuration, then stumbled upon the Roland email ad that had gone to my spam box 😅 Interesting that they've decided to put one out without the digital pads included, getting big TD-25K vibes from the setup. Seems to be around £2000 on the UK sites I've seen it in, £500 or so less than the KV kit. Much more value in the KV from my perspective, but I suppose the option being there for those who can't quite afford it is always useful!
@Mr_Tummy3 жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Yeah I'm pretty sure I spent more via the upgrade path :), but being able to do so, over a longer period of time worked best for me.
@TheeDrumWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
Makes sense! Got to do what's within your means with these things, and there's nothing like finally getting a nice upgrade!