Roland TD-12 sound vs Superior Drummer 2.0

[@2049nao]

You play so well !!! It's impressive.

[@digitaldrumming]

Arnaud M Thank you very much!

[@AbrubtParadox]

ive never seen a td 12 played so well, great job

[@ReinZ_96]

That was some absolutely amazing playing

[@philmoufarrege]

love your groove brother!!! great rhythm!

[@digitaldrumming]

Phil Moufarrege Thanks a lot!

[@kallewille]

Excellent comparison and thanks for replaying the exact same performance so we can hear the difference. Nice playing, too.

[@daryl142003]

appreciate the reply, will be ordering superior drummer very soon

[@guillaumerobert5552]

Dave Weckl style ! Really nice playing

[@digitaldrumming]

Thank you very much! :)

[@AtomikSoup]

Nice comparison - thanks! This was just what I was looking for. Great drumming, too.

[@natechatigny7107]

I don't know what I love more...the sounds, or your playing! Holy CLEAN Batman - you shred!

[@digitaldrumming]

Hey Nate, thanl you very much! :)

[@legacyschoolofmusic8282]

Forget the drum sounds, your drumming is incredible! such rad feel holy crap its like poetry to watch!

[@Pearlpassionstudio]

Excellent tutorial and drumming. I was planning on getting the Roland TD 25KV along with Superior 2.0 next month. Using it for traveling, being quiet and mixing music in PT.

[@jamesbalestrino2670]

I just bought the td-25... The dynamics and editing is great....I'm not feeling how it triggers superior and ez drummer...it doesn't capture a lot of the nuances that the new td-25 brain captures

[@Pearlpassionstudio]

James Balestrino Thanks for the feedback. I'm heading to Sweetwater this weekend and speaking to all the masters on this subject. They have a Gearfest that everyone in the world is there. I was highly recommended the Superior 2.0 as a way to capture individual tracks in PT's. Also, I was to expand the kits pads with another snare and floor tom.

[@jamesbalestrino2670]

I actually bought mine thru Sweetwater , those guys are great...I am a huge superior/too track fan an was real skeptical on how the td-25's brain would match up...but I have to say, it really impressed me..too track samples are ridiculously awesome but there is something about the Roland sound that works for me. The only thing that is kind of a negative is that there is no routing of the audio...meaning it's a 2 channel stereo output and you can't touch up individual outputs like u could do in the midi world with the multichannel output of superior. In any event have a blast at gear fest and let me know how u make out.

[@Pearlpassionstudio]

James Balestrino Thanks Jim...I'm a huge Sweetwater fan, been going to the Gearfest for about 6 years. AJ Becerra is a friends of mine, sales engineers at this place. Highly recommends this Superior 2.0 and Roland....I did pick up the tutorial for the Superior last month to start learning the process mapping this kit. I did see in this software a mixer, explaining how to map each pad, then work it with Protools, including routing to bus's....I'll go back into that tutorial that I got from Groove 3 and check again. I have to have full control like I do with my acoustic kit or there's a huge problem....Not sure, but pretty sure the MIDI plug goes to a interface, to the computer USB....Open the protools session, bring in the mixer, map it and should route the sends to the Protools inputs...Interesting...I will get back...Later for now.

[@Pearlpassionstudio]

HI again... I just re watched the Groove 3 tutorial on Superior drum. Show how you take your drums and make individual tracks for each drum. They show examples in about 5 DAWs. But, the tutorial did not show me the edit window, just the mix window with all the sends/Bus/Aux.etc...They did show how to create midi samples in a edit window, quantize to the bpm/scale on a single instrument. Still very confusing, I'll see Sweetwater and get back with you..

[@gerardogennaro777]

I love superior drummer sounds and I love that groove that you do with the ride

[@Cabomccabe]

Seriously smooth and amazing drumming. Wow.

[@digitaldrumming]

Thank you very much Dan! :)

[@DevaPermanaDrums]

... and you are a fantastic drummer too. So we are all can really hear the comparison of those deferential sounds clearly. Thank you very much

[@digitaldrumming]

Thanks for your kind feedback! :)

[@Spence.]

Sounds good!

[@polishbroadcast]

Thanks so much for this very informative comparison. You are a fantastic drummer. Superior drummer is appropriately titled!

[@BenMinal]

Monster playing. Great video for a direct comparison!

[@moritzbrumsack4441]

The true art of playing the drums. This makes me feel so good :-)

[@digitaldrumming]

Thank you Moritz! :)

[@sejuyz]

I came here to check out sounds and all of a sudden I totally forget about it because all I care is to study those phrases you play ! hehehe awesome job

[@jameslawrenceandrews109]

Excellent demonstration and tremendous playing! As a non drummer solo drumming often bores me, usually my attention is only held by Steve Gadd and Bernard Purdie, but I loved listening to this.

[@digitaldrumming]

Thank you for your kind feedback, very much appreciated!

[@jake21st29]

Very good

[@digitaldrumming]

thank you! :)

[@LexovichUkraine]

Loved your playing!!! Great timing! Made me subscribe immediately))

[@Seethi_C]

The fill at 2:50 is so good

[@gavcantrellofficial]

Thanks for making this video. I've been debating what drum VST to buy. (You have great technique!)

[@cnovickidrum]

Smooth and precise, great playing!

[@CRE8TION2INFINITY]

THIS MAKES ME SO HAPPY CUZ I JUST BOUGHT SD 2!!

[@daryl142003]

thanks for the reply, superior drummer is my next purchase

[@freeat_last7375]

WOW! DUDE. Thanks. You make Elec drums legit here. cymbal sounds are superior to what i have heard. great demo covering all aspects. that snare is crazy sensitive...real studio quality!

[@digitaldrumming]

Thank you very much, you might also want to check out some other sample-triggering electronic drum videos: kzbin.info/aero/PLfdIgOnHCc5qXX2P03SRNVSjuuUQYcUUy Kind regards!

[@freeat_last7375]

Will go. Looked at a TD3 w/drum amp Simmons for $600 need to be able to program brain for specific settings. For example some youtube cat got the exact settings for a Bonham kit...sounded great. That what I want to do--capture classic kit sounds.

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

@@freeat_last7375 I saw that one at GC. Wow. I didn't think it was possible to hate an amp that much. Personally, I wouldn't carry it out of the store for free. Jmo I personally use either a bass amp, a Roland keys amp 4 channel or an old JBL PA

[@TripleFermentation]

Love your playing, dude.

[@digitaldrumming]

Thanks mate!

[@Texasmonster10]

Dude, You're awesome! I loved the drumming man! Regardless it sounds great!!

[@Tuganotube]

Liked it a lot! Nice balance and funky style! Thx for the vid! (it actually sounds better with the Superior Drummer 2!

[@TechnoShamanism]

Great playing man, very relaxed, nice!

[@digitaldrumming]

Thank you :)

[@YIOBDN]

I love your style and the Sound

[@digitaldrumming]

Thank you very much!

[@vivekteega]

Your playing is soo smooth

[@digitaldrumming]

Thank you :)

[@joesampson8926]

That left hand is on point. That's my weak spot. I don't have the speed and control. Nice job! I was considering buying a used td 12. Using EZ drummer and an Alesis trigger IO now. Sounds pretty good, but everyone says Roland has great sounds.

[@digitaldrumming]

Hey Joe, the triggering/playability will be significantly better & easier to set up with any Roland module before going midi out. You can get great results even with a TD-17 actually & also have some nice onboard sounds on it. I've recently made the TD-17 AllStar Sound Edition for drum-tec: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKbQo6Wdh919i6c Doesn't sound like a Toontrack sample library by far, but still some very cool sounds for playing & practicing I think :) Kind regards!

[@HichamBatteur]

Awsome drumming and technique

[@rayeggy]

...nice drumming man! Best wishes from Germany!

[@MadeAirbreak]

Damn, i want to play like you! I'm planning on buying a td 4 or 6 very soon,a nd it's good to see the improvement made by the real samples. it sounds super great. I'm using Native instruments Abbey road drums atm, and can't wait to actually be able to play them.

[@carrie7225]

the drumming was so groovy i wasnt even paying attentions to the drum sounds

[@digitaldrumming]

Thank you very much, glad you liked it! :)

[@OnlineSessionDrumsUK]

Great playing and definitely makes we want a copy of SD..:)

[@NIIVES]

Any possibility you might share your superior drummer mixer settings with us? Great playing :)

[@ArGyProductions]

SD wins hands down... Thank you for posting this buddy :)

[@denisboutin897]

The sound of Superior drummer is way better than td 12, thanks for the comparison

[@GlennThomson]

Wow, you're a great drummer! Cool video as well

[@otway1]

Wow! Great playing!

[@Azwel]

I actually like how the 2 sounds(SD and roalnd) sound together

[@edmoss267]

one of the best drummers on u tube....!

[@digitaldrumming]

Thank you very much! :)

[@evenstevens280]

That would be absolutely incredible.

[@thevisi0naryy]

great style

[@digitaldrumming]

thevisi0nary Thanks man!

[@devilsden2283]

A young Ralf....."Killing it"!....👍👊🙏

[@digitaldrumming]

😄 haha, you've actually found the very first video I ever did for KZbin. Man check out the super professional picture quality of the inbuilt camera of my white plastic macbook at that time. Might be considered vintage by now...!

[@Joemantoo]

Wow. Big difference. I was wondering if you could answer a question? I have a Roland kit (TD-4KX2). It has a midi output. If I wanted to trigger sounds on my laptop computer, do I just need a Focusrite Saffire (or equivalent) and a decent laptop? I'm anxious to give this a try. Thanks. And great playing BTW.

[@khbamberger2035]

i love the way you play. how or where can I learn to play them. what do you call this kind of grouvs

[@digitaldrumming]

Thank you very much, well a lot of things come together there :) I have been playing the drums for 30 years now, including several years of studying at a music college. It's pretty hard to break it down to one groove "name" or "kind", there's some triplet funk/jazz stuff in it, and also lots of rudimental work basically. Kind regards!

[@SomebodyPickaName]

Hello, when you do midi learn, you must only do it for "hats tip trig" on the bow of your hi hat and "hats trig" for the edge sounds of your hi hat on the VH-11 (or any dual zone hat controller for that matter). Do not do midi learn for any of the other hat hits, as the CC only controls hats trig and hats tip trig in Superior Drummer (both older and 2.0). However, you will still do midi learn for the HH pedal.

[@Joemantoo]

@digitaldrumming Unfortunately I'm not familiar with midi at all. What started me off on this crusade was simply the desire to trigger some better sounds than my stock Roland kit. Now that I have started to look in to this more, I realize I could open up other options such as recording. The other application I envision is the ability to jam with a group at low volume. It looks like some of the more advanced interfaces would allow this function and recording like maybe the Focusrite Saffire PRO24

[@palermorepbokning333]

At 1:28 - what are these fills called when it sounds like you have constant ghost notes on the snare while playing the toms? Any good tutorials out there? Really wanna learn but can't get it to sound this well.

[@palermorepbokning333]

Also 2:50.

[@digitaldrumming]

Hey there, those are basically different kinds of triplet stickings: Three strokes, paradiddles (played as triplets), paradiddle-diddles or double paradiddles. Basic rudimental stuff played & mixed on a triplet pulse, there should be lots of videos on figures like this :) kind regards

[@digitaldrumming]

Inverted double stroke roll played as 32nd notes across the kit (some bd substitutions in there too)

[@palermorepbokning333]

Many thanks! I'll see if I can nail this some day.

[@robinreuther9965]

i have goosebumps from drums only for the first time

[@digitaldrumming]

:-D thank you so much Robin, I hope that's a good thing!

[@mattschaeferdesign]

Nice playing. Where did you pick up that lick at 2:50? Sounds familiar but I can't quite figure it out.

[@digitaldrumming]

Thanks, I have no idea honestly. I am not so much of an "copy paste" lick drummer i suppose, so most of the stuff is pretty spontaneous & improvised. Regards

[@tonydir5673]

Great playing reminds me a little of Weckl

[@digitaldrumming]

Thank you very much, Weckl was & still is a great influence for me indeed :)

[@aaronsmith8789]

You are so damn good! Great job.

[@Retrovideogamesandmore]

great playing on here!!!!

[@marcio1745]

Man .. I have just subscribed. You are so good. I have a question. I have a TD9KX2 ... using the Roland's standard kit. What do I have to do to use Sd2.0 and change the sounds of my kit as you did? Thanks a lot.

[@BenvanGeest]

VERY tasty drums here man! Great feel as well. Did you use the presets in the mappings page for e-drums? Somehow, my hihat sound isn't quite there yet, even with the e-drums preset. Especially the transition from closed to open hats feel kind of washy. Do you have any suggestions perhaps? Thank you. And keep on drumming! You're very talented! (y)

[@robmurray2310]

You are one... serious drummer!

[@digitaldrumming]

Thank you very much! :)

[@kingkaamaofficial3900]

Bravo dude amazing drummer 🥁…!! How did you scale Logic’s midi environnement with the V Drum TD-12 ? Got her as well and would love to use Stylus RMX and BFD with it …Thanks so much again ✨🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@CaravanCircusBand]

very informative, thanks

[@friedpicklezzz]

Great stick techniques

[@TheShadesFL]

nice chops

[@JoshCameron]

Hey man! Great video :) It really shows the difference between the VST and the module :) Is there any chance you could send over a link to that preset kit so I could download it? I love the sound!

[@denisalmeida3178]

superior drummer forever!!!

[@DannyWaegemaekers]

Best sound I've heard coming out SD 2.0 .. Do you mind sharing the preset with us ?

[@kbrown649]

Gotta say, I think I liked the TD12 sounds, at least in the snare and toms, more than the SD sounds. And I use SD in my DAW.

[@digitaldrumming]

Hi! This specific TD-12 kit (wow that was quite some years ago) :) was actually quite nice & my favourite self made kit. Still the sounds suffer from a lack of dynamic layers/round robin making especially loud hits/attacks very repetitive and unnatural in some places. Also the natural room ambiences in any contemporary sample library will give much more realistic results than the digital reverbs from older electronic drums modules. You can check out the drum-tec Silent Studio Sessions if you like, there I used Superior Drummer as well as SSD5 triggered from a TD-50 module and the results are really great: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGnMlJyFbKqBmaM Kind regards!

[@fisicobatera]

Hey man! Great drumming!!!

[@jmwen1]

Thanks for this. Your playing is very tasteful unlike many drummers uploading videos here and this is a great demo. I also have a question. Let's say I'm not planning on doing any recording on my computer running Superior Drummer 2. Can I run a usb directly from the roland module to the computer and only use the SP2 software to trigger the sounds on the e-kit? Basically, can I get your setup by ONLY buying an e-kit and SP2 with no other hardware or software?

[@voederbietels]

hi there thanks for the reply .. the update 2.3 for superior is a major update so every one has problems with there vh11 ,,please update ! you can find it on there website . greetings from frank

[@xxfroobxx]

I want the same setup. This is fucking dope !

[@eamonjosephus]

wow... nice chops

[@digitaldrumming]

Thank you!

[@rooseph7152]

This man has an astonishing amount of pocket

[@digitaldrumming]

Thank you very much! :)

[@AcrossTheBlueOcean]

Excellent video. Aside from the great drumming others have mentioned, the software does seem to make a difference. My dreams of a massive drum kit are slightly hampered by space and noise considerations, so I've been looking into V-Drums. It's nice to see that there are alternatives to the default module for getting a realistic sound (I couldn't care less about all those electronic DnB type patches). One question as I am new to this - how is the sound output? Can you use your computer speakers?

[@aguyngaw]

can you please mate a tutorial how to apply Superior Drummer to your electric drums. please! please!

[@humblejumpify]

Excellent

[@hendrixistheking]

Absolutely love your playing! Who are some of your biggest influences?

[@doubop]

nice groove

[@C5drummer]

Exceptional playing and sound! Pretty impressed! ...I've never had a set of VDrums, so bit the bullet, and have LITERALLY just got home with a Roland TD-12 module and drum kit I bought off Craigslist for $185! He said he purchased it in early 2011...It looks like it's barely been used over the many years, likely covered by a blanket, and astonishingly, all the drums and cymbals work! Since I've YET to delve into the manual to see how everything works, what do I need to purchase next regarding equipment needed to get Superior Drummer 2 or 3 to work once I purchasing/download the software to my Laptop? I have a MIDI IN/Out and 2 sets of "Direct" or "Master" Output on the module. I'll have to figure out how to set up a set of powered speakers/Sub eventually as well. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[@SINISABISKO]

Hy , i have buy Td1 for Usb recording(Kontakt 5.1), but it's not so great, like a some bug , do you have advice? Tnx

[@JaMzMedia]

great drummer sir

[@tripops]

Bravo Complimenti

[@lucianosouza4870]

Hello! Thanks a lot for the video. Very inspiring. Your playins is really amazing! Question: Can I use VSTs with this module on a macbook with IOS 10.14? I have a midi-usb cable from m-audio.

[@digitaldrumming]

Thank you Luciano! Yes, you can use the module's midi output with a midi-usb cable, you'll also need a dedicated audio interface with fast driver for low latency monitoring while playing. Kind regards!

[@frankosretkar9736]

Great Drumming!,Sounds Like You Have An Ear For Weckel,& Gadd In Any Event Nice Performance! Was Wondering If You Ever Tried Addictive Drums If So Any Thoughts? Thanks

[@digitaldrumming]

Hi Frank & thanks! Addictive is very nice too, just browse through the vids on the channel, there actually is an old video with AD. I am currently cooperating with Slate Digital and Steven Slate Drums 4 is quite amazing (there´s a vid as well on the channel). Regards,R

[@jerrydilger]

Thanks for making this video! Its awesome. I havent really had much to do with sup drummer yet, but im looking at upgrading from my TD-3. And i was wondering is it possible to play with those samples live through earphones just like you would through the original roland module? Does it just run through a seperate interface or would superior drummer only be something you could use for recording?

[@Nadjim]

Nice! I just got the TD-12. What's the name of the sound bank you're using from the TD-12?

[@spacepodstudio]

Great drumming... In S.D do you set a seperate sample for the rim..as i can only get 1 snare sample assigned to the snare and most modules have rim and snare? Been using a ddrum 4 for years and these superior drummer samples are soo much better. Also there only seems to be 1 avatar kit in SD, how do you get other kits or do you just customise the avatar?.. Thanks.

[@MusicJunkie37]

I love that snare sound, is it possible to get a similar-sounding snare on Superior Drummer 3?

[@digitaldrumming]

Hi, I guess you can still use the SD2 library with the new Superior Drummer 3? Kind regards!

[@djramsay]

Hi, I love this video - the difference is night and day. I also have a td12. Could you suggest how I might do this (trigger Supperior drummer via td12 kit). Is it tricky? I have a macbook also and a midi/usb lead. But that is as far as I have got. Any advice would be appreciated! great playing by the way - real great feel! Regards, David

[@maccagrabme]

Response on the TD is so much better though. Superior is great but still a bit muddy sounding depending on the kit. I can't see why Roland cannot do a deal with Toontrack and put these sounds into a module. No excuse really with the very low cost of ram and Hd's nowadays.

[@schorschchrist]

Hi Mate! Great Video! I'm new in the e-drum scene and would be really nice if you could answer me a question: I've Superior Drummer too and try to use it in Logic 9 to do some Midi Recordings with my Td 12. It all works with the connecting BUT the Soundquality is not good when I play the Drum. It's much better when I click with my mouse on the drumgeaphic in Superior Drummer. Can you tell me why? Thank you a lot

[@willblues1754]

ok you convinced me ill buy it but only if you tell me what snare that is and if it will work on the td11k

[@digitaldrumming]

Hi! The snare I was using in this video is a drum-tec diabolo 12" pad, which is fully compatible with every Roland sound module: www.drum-tec.de/drumtec-diabolo-12-x-5-mesh-head-pad-black-p-1117.html Kind regards

[@mucushrapnel]

damn you're super good. what's the breakdown of the beat at 0:57?

[@zooby11isbambam]

gohd damned, bro. you've got some serious chops. also, i am buying the FUCK out of superior drummer, those samples sound mind-blowingly good.

[@VS-ot8tn]

Can you explane the fill at 2:50?

[@digitaldrumming]

Hi, basically it´s a mix of inverted double strokes and three strokes + bd (RLLF). That´s the short version though ;-D kind regards!

[@VS-ot8tn]

@@digitaldrumming thanks .... youtube slow motion helps too ;-)