Roland TR-8S v2.5/TR-6S v1.5 Firmware & TR-EDITOR Update Overview

[@MurrayDagostino]

I love the TR-8s and its continuous firmware updates!

[@soundwithoutsoundbutwithso7884]

Just needs step nudge/delay/microstep or whatever you want to call it to get the steps off the grid a bit.

[@embersandash]

Absolutely. And full MIDI implementation.

[@dcall7830]

W O R D D D D

[@Its303AcidBass]

Shuffle for swing?

[@shatteredsquare]

Yes, part nudge and part timing offset +/-

[@sammadden5540]

Can you play them in off time Madlib style?

[@iceblack24]

WE NEED THIS FOR THE MC-707 ! PLEASE

[@jayneural]

I love in the new update ! I still would love these features though : - make it USB audio/MIDI class compliant ! (especially the 6S which is "on-the-go" use case) - side-chaining between instruments (like on T-8) - chromatic note input on the instruments (like on T-8) - if you can bring the 303 model engine that would be sick ! (like on T-8). You've got your roadmap for v3.0 :) Big thanks & good luck to the dev team @ Roland.

[@fadek8059]

Agrees , 100%

[@djmattpositive]

i concur 1000% *(though i think the 6s is already a class compliant usb Audio/Midi device - but the 8s would benefit greatly from class compliant usb audio/midi functionality))

[@jayneural]

@@djmattpositive it isn’t unfortunately. I know it sounds like an anomaly but it isn’t. Maybe you confuse with the MC-101 which got a firmware update adding class compliance. I agree with you that the 8S would also benefit from being class compliant. I don’t even know why they need a vendor driver on such devices. No one does that in 2022. Nothing prevents them from declaring all its inputs and outputs over usb generic driver technically. Once again this year they will have to update their vendor driver for it to work with the new operating system versions. So the time they spend on maintaining that proprietary driver, they won’t spend on new products and firmware maintenance/upgrade.

[@djmattpositive]

@@jayneural i hear you on the pointlessness of vendor drivers on devices. i'd guess that the propensity for a company to insist on proprietary drivers is tied to inertia/habit and an outdated and archaic way of thinking about 'control' and how a company should best maintain it - the old ways.

[@jake-me7yg]

would also like to be able to lock channel outs so I can swap kits without having to re-do every time!

[@tttddk]

So now we are waiting the corresponding updates for MC-101(707) as well, so great synth to work on further!

[@seanleeduncan]

Thank you. Probability has brought the TR8s back into the game. All we need now is MIDI compliance and better sample management ie via computer.

[@BassamAbusamra]

Amazing update, please give us mc707 users a nice update, its been so long, i feel abandoned 😅

[@djtyson435]

Yes! That would be much appreciated Roland 👌🏽

[@jayhillraps]

It's only been a year and a half 🥲

[@synthlord2368]

Yes please!

[@synkuk]

VERY COOL, good to see Roland continuing to support updates .. the V2 update was what pushed me purchase the TR8S .. thx

[@2MinuteWarning]

What a great update (I've been dreaming of nearly all the new features added here!) Hats off Roland! 🤩

[@MikeRenouf]

Thanks Roland, great job. The probability function is a cool addition and those FM sounds are spot on. Since we're all doing further requests in the comments (😬) can we please get a better sample management workflow? Maybe a sample manager in the software editor? Cheers!

[@seanleeduncan]

Yes please!!

[@shatteredsquare]

Yes, sample management in the editor

[@BusinessDuck69]

Agreed. I also want to see a better way to import kits/patterns. That is such a tedious process

[@dcall7830]

Wow those new FM models are REALLY good. They give you heaps of control to shape your snare, bass drum etc. New FX are lovely too. GREAT update , my tr6s is quickly becoming my favourite piece of kit, intuitive, great sound and alot of fun to use.

[@andersb80]

This a great and fun upgrade! I agree with many others here that an update to 707 is needed as well.

[@R_A_V_E_R_X]

Thank you, Roland. Very cool.

[@cloudbloom]

Tremendous product, I looked at Roland and said wow what a tremendous product

[@RandomNoiseMusic]

Thank you Roland for the love you keep on giving to this great drum machine!! 🙌

[@blassiou]

Editor as a plugin sounds awesome idea!:)

[@thomasdelfs]

When can we have an editor for the MC-101 / 707 please? Feels like they’ve been forgotten!

[@ionianechoes]

What about the MC707? At least some bug fixes in the looper syncro, the ghost motion recording and wrong tone preset loading with clip would have been nice. It seems a terrible decision to abandon the improvement in reliability of the flagship product line for electronic live performances.

[@leito1996]

MC707 is still my main sound source during live performances in front of people. I had TR8-S, got rid of it to get MC707 finally... Synth engine of that thing is responsible for my sound most of the time... But I cannot help to stop feeling a little betrayed by Roland - it is a flagship for f**** sake

[@The-word-I-does-not-exist]

MC-707 and MC-101 editor next please Roland! Great overview by Dustin, these new features and sounds look great.

[@Noise-Conductor]

Overall nice update for a device that came out in 2018. Wish they added more LFO's & Vinyl Simulator & HA-Dou Reverb seemed kinda weak at least in the demo, but I'll test it myself. →Also let us assign the white velocity pad on the TR-8S to be used as a 2nd Shift button! This gives me hope for a new MC-707 update. Let make it happen #Roland.

[@strangersun7721]

Wow. Roland keeps delivering for this machine. Love it. If we could get unquantized recording/steps, this would be my favorite drum machine.

[@danielstrohhut4095]

Nice Roland! Keep going, you are doing great with the TR8S

[@gasparpini]

Amazing update, please give us mc707 and mc101 users a nice update, its been so long, i feel abandoned 😅

[@mudi2000a]

Yes !! Please, Roland!!

[@tomc7299]

Great work Roland...love the fact that you keep updating stuff as I love my tr8s thanks 👍❤️👍

[@alexwestconsulting]

This is awesome stuff. But PLEASE can you add internal sidechain as on the T-8? We were hoping this was on the way, would be in this release.

[@andrew1550]

That's Awesome! Thanks Roland! Those FM Sounds are great, probability is awesome and love the Vinyl master effect with the compressor! Suggestions for future updates: * Internal sidechain * Another LFO Source * Scales on the course controls * "Mute" mutes the incoming midi from a DAW, it seems to only mute the notes from the onboard sequencer * Ability to nudge drum hits off the grid * It would be really cool if you could use all the CTRL knobs to the active channel on the active menu eg INST Config, so we could control multiple parameters on a single instrument without having to manually change the single CTRL knob assignment, or navigate through the menu's with the encoder.

[@freakphysics]

Interesting. Now that the number of parameters for modulating a single sound is increasing considerably, how about making the knobs 'Tune' and 'Decay' assignable too? This would enable many more live-performance possibilities.

[@ashclayton699]

being able to change the "tune" knob to "coarse tune" would be game-changing

[@DJeMo]

@@ashclayton699 hold control and turn the lowest control knob of the track to coarse and walla

[@MrVoonix]

Or let us assign all three knobs per instruments with second parameters, accessible via shift+knobs.

[@aaronthompson317]

I’m impressed. Lots of cool new features and Roland was actually able to explain how to access them in a way that made sense. I still hate the rigid folder structure and process for importing samples! But the TR8S is a bad ass drum machine and this certainly makes it better.

[@nonsequitur4704]

Excellent! The sound updates are beyond expectations! Would love to see probability also for velocity and timing offset as well down the road. My most wanted feature would be a performance enhancement in Beat Step Mode on the TR8S. I would like the performance pad to lock in step mode to the selected instrument, so like an easy snare or clap added to any step with the performance feature of the pad. This would make for easy rolls and builds for one instrument sound over the sequence. Love the ongoing updates!!!

[@LaPlant_Mastering]

I'm loving my TR-8S (and a TR-8 I had before it). Fantastic drum machine(s).

[@davidallred991]

Very happy to see an update as I was wondering if anything more was coming. Props on adding the probability on a per step basis, this was a much needed feature, and even more happy to see that the dev team went even beyond by adding the substep probability and master. With that said, there is one glaring hole that just about every owner has been asking for that I am shocked has not been addressed. r Without a doubt, the biggest is sample management. I really don't understand how it is that Roland is adding new effects and even updating the software editor without addressing sample management. Would be such a simple thing to take care of also. With the limited space of user stored samples and no disk streaming there needs to be sample management in the software editor to build kits and easily load them. a) allow software editor to build kits off of SD card samples. b) save kit name c) on TR8s click load kit "name" and it will load the samples for that kit off the SD card. If memory is full, it says so and we need to erase one of the currency stored user kits. Of coarse this could even be better achieved by allowing disk streaming from SD card but maybe that is not possible on T8Rs, but there has to at least be a better way to create, save, and load new kits with user samples. Overall, some really cool new features, but Roland really needs to address sample management,. Three wish list features would be. 1. Swing on a per instrument basis. Only having master swing affecting all instruments is kind of useless. 2. Ability to follow TR-Rec through the sequence. Meaning as the sequence progresses through A-H pages it will show the active steps for the selected instrument rather than always being locked onto one page at a time. 3. Micro adjust timing forward or backward on a per step basis for more off the grid control. Hope to see more in the future. I love the TR8s and with just a few more minor tweaks it really could be one of the best drum machines ever made. SAMPLE MANAGEMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Even Korg figured it out with the Volca Sample 2.

[@DJeMo]

Awesome, please can we resize the gui on the editor just a small amount I cannot see the lower portion on the laptop resolution, or give us the PNG file different sizes that still work to sort ourselves if possible...

[@technodrone313]

Sweet! Love my 6s. pretty impressive improvements. i love taking this to the park with my j6. good way to get the guts of a track going in no time.

[@schmapps1]

Hey there - can I ask you something? Can you set it so that when the Tr6s and the j6 are connected with midi, when you change the pattern on the Tr6s does it also automatically change the pattern on the j6? The T8 and j6 can be pattern synced in this way, and it seems super useful

[@sebastianwittenkamp2738]

Pretty cool update, the TR-6S is just great. Request for TR-EDITOR: make it possible to resize the window. I saw on the Roland site that the official solution is to change device resolution, which works if I am only using the TR-EDITOR software by itself. But on a laptop screen this can make other apps more difficult to see.

[@LeWaLiD]

Thank you Roland for the update 😊

[@sunilsolanki]

Excellent update! Great demo Dustin, as always! Is there a quick and easy cheat sheet of all the 'Press this and then press that' for all the button combos??

[@tehedx]

Just take a piece of paper, write it down and keep it under the device in case you need it? At least that's how I do it - turns out there are some features I like but aren't so obvious for me to remember without effort - especially after not having used the machine for some time. Just 2 or 3 notes usually does the job.

[@Maikurohon]

Great additions! Not to sound ungrateful, but can we focus on some glaring basic UX omissions next like clearing/deleting patterns, kits and samples and easily reordering patterns, kits and samples in memory? These drum machines come preloaded with tons of factory preset patterns and kits - surely Roland doesn't think that we want to make music with these presets? Or think that we want to spend an eternity painstakingly deleting them all? Seems like something that could easily be added to the TR-EDITOR software? Would be great to be able to easily manage (drag-and-drop) our patterns, kits and samples on that pattern/kit selection screen.

[@rubenerre]

Please UPDATE the MC-707. Thanks.

[@carstenherbst2934]

Great to see this Update, Thanx for this... BUT : Will be also a new update for the MC-707 ???

[@dankefurnichts]

nice nice nice..... the the tr-8s is in every live gig my heart of the setup

[@ThinkerThunker]

Great update! When will the editor be on Android or preferably Windows 7? Not everybody has our wants Windows 10.

[@AndreasRoet]

Really excited about the new FX and Instruments. The FX turn the TR8s into a little pedal collection. Can't way to route all kinds of sources through it 😎 Very nice!

[@phelper4554]

The substep feature is pretty good… would be cool if this could also works for say for example the filter cutoff changes

[@kvmoore1]

This is a nice cool update. I'm definitely going to download this and try it out. It literally turns the TR-8S into an FM drum "synth!" SWEET!!! However, I would still like to see a full blown ASDR pitch envelope feature added for all of the ACB drums and user samples sound engine in a future update. I would love to be able to bend the pitch of my 808 bassdrums down by a certain degree on every trigger (based on the pitch envelope settings I make, of course) tobimitate what a real TR808 long decay kick does naturally and similar to the pitch bended long decay kick on the Arturia Drumbrute Impact. Yes, a pitch envelope feature would make this machine totally complete for me!!!

[@ohheyitskevinc]

Very nice. Could the editor possibly support samples and kit creation one day? It’s something, but needs to support what the hardware does (but is really cumbersome to do on the machine).

[@admovie86]

What a great video. Super well explained, thanks! Any video in your channel on how to record yourself with soft soft? I'm under the

[@Wagoo]

Great firmware update - keep 'em coming 👍

[@loskioskbears]

Please let there be a song mode!!, please let there be a song mode!!, please let there be a song mode!! Noooooooo - another missed opportunity :-(

[@RicoTropico]

FM Clap Model - I'm in love

[@horrisnorris6478]

I can't believe I just got the 808th like on this video! Such a great and unexpected update, cheers Roland

[@VJFranzK]

Please let us enter melodies with the step keys as a keyboard! (And maybe add more note synthesis patches?) Many earlier, simpler drum machines can do this!

[@djangofett4879]

Sweet! Hopefully there is also an MC-707 update on the way. The arpeggiator needs some tweaking and there needs to be more midi input options for using a controller keyboard. More total system sample time would also be nice if its possible.

[@Flava_Clown]

Thanks for the update, really appreciate it. any chance to get some of these features for the MV-1 and the MC-101/MC-707 as well? Actually for the MV-1 instead of probability, "trigger conditions" would make more sense. Like being able to trigger notes only during the first, second, third or forth time or every odd or even time a section plays. As an example, currently I am working on something where I ran out of sections. With trigger conditions I could at least free up 2 sections, because the difference between the sections are some added cymbals on the 1st, 5th and 7th bar. With trigger conditions I'd set them to trigger only during the 2nd time the section plays. Probability is too random for that.

[@Flashback_Jack]

The legends just became even more legendary! BAM!

[@mybiggrin]

Being able to transfer full split audio files for songs via the USB from the unit into the computer would be a game changer.

[@saviumrecords]

fantastic update I love them and I often use the built-in FM sounds, as a suggestion in the part of modifying instruments or samples, doing it numerically becomes tedious.

[@crazyFrankyy]

Dear Roland, when can we wait a normal editor to MC-707 like an TR 8-s. The little screen and 4 knobs are not comfortable for so many many paramenters, please do it!!! All your's device have little screen, i think the main idea do a editor's for android, ios. It's logical, all we have a dispaly, but give us a chance use it!

[@cellrok]

Thanks Roland. Could you also add "Randomize Parameters"? So instead of changing the instrument with something different, just nudge around all the parameters of the CURRENT instrument randomly? This would be amazing for FM models and ACB models alike!

[@JamesBermingham]

Hey Roland There’s still a bug in the TR8s when sending or receiving Program change midi messages with another device, whether TR8s is master or slave. TR8s goes out of sync when this happens. It’s on the Roland forums. Any news on this being fixed in an update. ?

[@donadoma]

Great! 👍The verselab next, please. 🙏

[@hesher2301]

Waiting for moving forward and backwards all steps functionality in sequence editor like on Elektron machines

[@_DRMR_]

Very cool update with these expanded FM sound design controls! Too bad Roland Cloud and the Editor do not support my OS at all, would love to be able to use it to quickly create new drum sounds.

[@Its303AcidBass]

SONG MODE SONG CHAIN MODE (ON THE FLY)

[@falconhoof6]

Can't thank you all enough for your continued efforts on the TR-8S. Is there anything on the roadmap for a sample management/library to allow us to use the editor to load/unload, rename, reorder etc samples, as well as kits and patterns? This would take it a looot easier to manage data. I'm thinking something along the lines of what Korg provide for management of stored patch data in a library editor.

[@nitfumble]

Is there MIDI control over the extra parameters in the software? Love the update!

[@jadisperdu9412]

Nice but we still miss Chromatic note input through an external keyboard !

[@thunks]

Thanks for the update! Just wanted to +1 the request for chromatic mode (notes entered either by keyboard or step buttons). Pretty please!

[@AirwaveMusic]

Great, where’s the mc707 step nudge function now? 🤔

[@JohnsonkeyzMusicAcademy]

This is really really Cool

[@EmilioNorrmann]

when MC 101 ? :)

[@dubzmckenzie1]

Nice. MC-707 update next please!

[@RoadhawK66]

Wow, didn’t see this coming, thanks big R

[@Nosh_Feratu]

On the TR909 VST you can create a drum pattern, then drag and drop your pattern as audio, but crucially, you can also drag and drop the pattern from the VST as MIDI aswell which is an amazing tool to have at hand, however, you still cant do this with the TR8S Editor for some reason? Is this something you plan on doing with the TR8S editor as this would be incredibly useful, surely its possible to implement?

[@rave6892]

Is it Possible to create hardstyle kick using TR-8S ?

[@kuldeepgohel29]

I see the all the updates presented here, thank you for that but what is the update with the STEP LOOPER? Can't find the information about that anywhere, even in the new manual. Please describe! @rolandchannel

[@isaacanthonydj4124]

Dude, SWEET! When are you going to give it a generic USB mode, so i can connect it to my iPHone like i can with the MC707?

[@VacancyOfDisco]

Great update! Any chance of getting any of the FM synth/drum modes on th MC707?

[@Fallout75]

TR editor doesn’t work on M1 MacBook with Mac OS Monterey unfortunately. Tried different cables, ports, made sure the driver was install and not detecting device. TR8S has the latest firmware as well 😢

[@VNDM-MUSIC]

Great update, esp. probability: thanks!

[@tonteconcept2044]

Love my TR8-S since years but pleaaase do something for the shuffle

[@djgalawak]

hello nice tr6 update, any chance for playing sample chromatically (the 16 step sequencer doing keyboard) important function ;) cheers

[@shatteredsquare]

Roland are you going to add part nudge to the sequencer?? there's already physical nudge buttons on there, just hold shift to use them to nudge the kick track left or right etc

[@MrDonc78]

If i have my tr8s tempo syncd to my mpc, is there a way to divide or multiply the tempo on the tr8s while recieving the clock?

[@LeonPhythian69]

When are we going to see an editor for MC707?

[@grooveslap]

Midi program change screws up playback timing. How do I downgrade?

[@aeonvoid_]

dang, really sick, but would love to see ‘nudge per step’ instead of whole pattern… micro timing per step PLEASE!

[@Catemstudio]

Great Roland! ❤🧡💛🤍 But, why you din't add random for individual instrument pattern, not type of sound? Please ... P.S: Euclidean rhythm generator, will be perfect ...

[@bretsimon6125]

Amazing 🎉❤

[@deafmouse-]

the editor should be a vst

[@JamesFRobinsonMusic]

If I update my TR-6S, will I loose all of my saved patterns and kits i've made?

[@gassanovfuad]

Thank you soooo much Roland🙏🙏. Dont forget to update Integra 7 firmware to, please add user custom sample

[@subtorq]

Cool. Now do the MC-707 😎

[@doriangig2238]

Is it possible to resize the editor .. Overall great update

[@benrowlinson]

All these great updates only serve to make it all the more heartbreaking that there's no way to shift the steps in a pattern so as to reposition the one. I like to build up patterns from euclidean claves, so there's no telling where I'm going to want the one to be until I'm reasonably far into the process, with accents and sub steps already set, so it's bound to take ages to shift the pattern, manually, track by track. I guess I could make this process slightly less painful if the machine let me import MIDI, but it doesn't. The new MCs have been updated to allow for both one-shift and MIDI import, so I end up writing everything on them, then painstakingly copying the resulting patterns over to TR-6s, so as I can take advantage of the ACB. A long spell of unbecoming grunt-work, the sort of thing we ought've left behind in the last century.

[@colonelpercival2832]

Run it off Polyend Tracker

[@benrowlinson]

@@colonelpercival2832 Substitute Polyend Tracker for Renoise (runs on a Pi 4) and that's exactly where I am right now.

[@303otto]

Probability 😍🥰

[@deadlydanton]

An awesome update

[@bigwheel4986]

Roland updates and Jerry rice are very nice

[@JonMurray]

*waits impatiently for loopop overview*

[@crazyFrankyy]

Hello Roland! Suggestion for Sequencer of TR-8S. Your's sequencer have many great function like FLAM and Substep, but for users who prefer play live it's useless. Fox example - i have your's 2 great device MC-707 and TR-8S, i play with MC pad on TR drums, but all i can a record it's simple lengh like 1/2/4/8/16 no rolls, no flam's. Maybee have a chance add this function fur INST REC in future it really helpful for live musicians, your's product's is great, thanks!

[@seaweedsal]

Thank you, Roland!

[@vjcsavar]

Ok it is huge update! Thanks I Love It!