*NEW V3.00* Roland TR8S & TR6S (V2) with CR78 and Chromatic 808

[@synthnerd4539]

Ah yes - Fill 1, Fill 2, and everyone's favourite, Fill Collins.

[@robertsutton7949]

Fill Oakey, surely.

[@synthnerd4539]

@@robertsutton7949 Great band but Fill is a drummer's name.

[@murphyjulian7393]

Did Fill Valve ever get famous?

[@andyjones760]

Been hoping they'd do the CR-78 for years! Awesome.

[@robertocaba5915]

Same 😅

[@Noise-Conductor]

Now that you got it, what did you do with it?

[@therealmattmann]

I love the CR-78 sound! I'm very excited and can't wait to update my firmware!! Woo hoo!!

[@robertreid8241]

Gotta love the CR78, the start of "same old scene" always makes jump for the volume knob!

[@tb-cg6vd]

Impressed Roland are continuing with the updates - it's a brilliant machine and deserves a long shelf-life. Gonna have fun copying Blondie!!!

[@StarskyCarr]

Have you got the outfits and wig ready :)

[@sonarfreq]

Awww brilliant stuff... been looking for CR78 samples recently so this is spot on! 🙏👍

[@peterkadarmusic9728]

This is cool. The 78 is my fave vintage drum machine along with the Linn Drum. I've not considered a Roland drum machine in a long time but if anything could change that, it would be this.

[@skeletonmodel]

I got one and loaded it up with the samples from mars sampled kits. You have a lot to choose from

[@amour4all]

Really great demo and easy to learn new stuff on this wonderful machine! The CR78 sounds fantastic! Thanks Starsky! 💚💛🧡❤💜💙🤍

[@trevormalcolm4328]

I love my TR-8s, all my favourite drum machines in one box. Now with the missing piece CR-78! My life is complete!!!

[@Charlie-Sheen]

Another great video thanks. Nice update for the TR8s. It’s a shame they don’t do the same for the original TR8 and the 707 kit!

[@rumplebunny]

What an awesome update. The CR-78 is my favorite vintage drum machine. I actually own one but you know, it's kinda good to know this is available in case my CR-78 kicks the bucket heh. Also, really nice touch of including the original patterns though I suppose you're missing out on the ability to mash down a couple buttons at a time to get interesting pattern mashups (unless I missed something here). Not a huge deal really though, it's just a fun tactile thing on the 78.

[@Kkidzz]

Love my CR78. Had it midi’d a couple of years ago…. tones are now velocity sensitive.

[@StarskyCarr]

Show off 😂😂

[@Zeal808]

Siiick

[@ncapone87]

Now I wish I still had a TR8-S :( I love the CR-78. It's really cool they included the patterns.

[@andrewvann2578]

Thanks for another excellent video! I believe the CR-78 was the first *microprocessor controlled* drum machine (hence computer rhythm - CR). I have one and it's awesome. I saw Phil Collins playing it on stage during the Duke tour in 1980 and wanted one ever after but it took me thirty years! One of the really cool things is that the Guiro and Tambourine rhythms are synced to the tempo (fading them in and out is what Phil used to do during Duchess) - I also have an R8 and that doesn't work with the CR78 samples on there of course. I have faked this in Beatmaker with timestretching. Does the TR8S ACB implementation do this?

[@robertocaba5915]

Brilliant! I always missed the c78 lovely snare on my tr6

[@TheDjpredator]

So nice Roland keeps updating the firmware, love that coarse tune on the 808 bass, they should add that to all the sounds (if possible) Great video again, love my TR8S 🤘🥳

[@coolo73]

TR8skreamer…that’s a 3rd-party desktop app that’s been out for years that translates incoming midi notes to Tr-8S/6S course tune values. Makes every voice on the 8S chromatic and playable on a midi keyboard, but you have route through your computer to the hardware in order to use it.

[@TheDjpredator]

@coolo73 Thanks, thats nice, will check it, still would be nice to have it in the TRXs series so you can do it stand alone 😎

[@SynthgodXXX]

Sounds really cool! Such vintage charm! Great video!

[@RaquelFoster]

This is awesome. I have a TR-6S and I was just looking at reverse-engineering the kit file format to convert some TR-8S kits (to split them into 2 kits so I don't lose 5 of the instruments) JUST because I wanted a good CR-78 kit. Now I don't need that Cyclone TT-78!

[@robert_locke]

I also have the TR-6S and would like to do something similar to what you are saying. Did you find a way to do that?

[@tonyjones6256]

Excellent news! Collins, if course, was an early user with Genesis on Duke, playing one on stage. IIRC In The Air was a Linn…

[@StarskyCarr]

🤦‍♂️ and I double checked that one! You can’t trust anything anymore 😂😂

[@tonyjones6256]

@@StarskyCarr though I've found people also claiming it was the 78, so what do I know! Thanks for the timely video

[@rufusssewell]

@@StarskyCarr Nah, In The Air is CR-78.

[@peterkadarmusic9728]

@@rufusssewell Yeah it's a 78 for sure.

[@caesarsheadache]

What a lovely update 🤗 Great demo as always Cheers 👌🔥🤘

[@manysimilarshapes]

Looking forward to getting a CR78 Roland Cloud plugin soon (hopefully)

wow, that's awesome little update

[@andrewstanworth529]

Thanks to this video, I've realised what the dust bros used in the fight club soundtrack! (CR78) one of the fills.. wonderful! It's been bugging me for years. Cheers!

[@electronaut7429]

Thank you for another video and the information! 🙂

[@ktreier]

The CR-78 is the defining sound of John Foxx’s Metamatic album.

[@skummelkatt]

EKO Computerhythm was the first programmable drum machine back in 1972. But the CR-78 was of course a lot more accessible and popular so it’s no wonder people tend to believe it was the first programmable drum machine.

[@thedeepblueskys]

Moon Safari front to back is a great album, and I just randomly heard Tainted Love last night.

[@Zeal808]

Roland forever

[@chicken_flavoured_bacon3230]

oh it comes with the original cr-78 rhythms.. all you're missing's that guys bling!! ;D

[@YotamPiano]

Nice detailed, thorough and clean video like always Starsky , seems like the TR8S is truly a band in a box now ! btw, I you were already notified that "Clave" is pronounced "Kla-Veh". Don't forget that "Beguine" is pronounced "Beh-Gin" (..or like Begin, so yeah - the song's name is pronounced Begin the Begin). Cheers mate !

[@StarskyCarr]

Haha cheers… I looked up clave as I wasn’t sure I was pronouncing it correctly as klav - eh … just felt weird. and got Claives .. I’m never trusting the inter set again 😂😀 better than ‘clap’ which is what I assumed it was before I heard it!

[@fredrikw1447]

Thanks for this Roland!

[@NormanStansfield1]

John Foxx used the CR 78 on his amazing solo albums with songs like "Underpass" and many others.

[@patricklaureys9238]

Kuruki with Crocodile Tears. ❤ Love this update!

[@Janomix]

Awesome! no show TR6S? Anyway. Really the ACB technology are the most accurate recreation of these legendary drum machines. I test beside the Cloud versions, but the machine has a fantastic sound. Hope te CR78 in the cloud too. Thank you!

[@StarskyCarr]

No, I've not got one unfortunately.. but thought I'd let the TR6S folks know its there and what it does.

[@Vim-Wolf]

Ooh, yet again you've flagged up an upgrade I wasn't aware of. Thanks muchly, I'll install this when I get home.

[@HamHavoc]

When are they going to do global outputs. The fact that they change whenever you change kits is insane

[@stevephillips6322]

Excellent update, thank you for previewing it. Can i please ask, where did you get the TR-8S CR-78 pattern chart you show at 01:11? Thank you.

[@thedeepblueskys]

I just paused and screen shot it

[@stevephillips6322]

@@thedeepblueskys - Indeed, I have done the same. I just wondered whether Starsky Carr had made the document himself based on a best guess of the patterns, or whether this was any formal notification from Roland. Thanks.

[@thedeepblueskys]

@@stevephillips6322 I with ya on that. With other people having install issues I’m gonna wait a bit to see if they update it or something. Did you install it yet?

[@StarskyCarr]

I think people who have had issues haven't done the factory reset (the final stage).. .so backup then install).

[@thedeepblueskys]

@@StarskyCarr that sounds about right. I was thinking if that was a missed step in the process. I’ll give it a try later this evening.

[@extra-servings]

Just a note - I had to reboot a few times after updating & doing factory reset - it was showing "?" instead of the CR78 Kick. Also you'll need to update the TR Editor if you use it.

[@orbitfold]

Fingers crossed for mc707 update

[@philipgilligan_art]

Gonna grab one of these next month…… still wondering 6s or 8s but less menu diving on the 8, wont be travelling with it BUT not much space on desk!!!!! Currently only got a tr08

[@drsamurai009]

Something I've always wondered about when it comes to these modern groove box/drum machine units as compared to the originals. I have an Autovari 64, and a Roland TR-77. Both of these (very) old analog machines had a great trick up their sleeves in that you could press multiple physical buttons (typically two) and get some compound/combined rhythms out of them like mix a Latin samba button with a rock 2 button at the same time to get some cool interplay. On these modern TR machines can you select two or more presets at the same time like the original analog units?

[@jacobbaxter123]

😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫 beats the free sample kit i loaded onto my tr-8s last night, now we just need all the non-Roland kits in ACB 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@StarskyCarr]

haha yeah a Linn Drum would be cool. Can't quite see it happening though!

[@mattchang3266]

Best part, it’s a free ACB model. I was expecting paying $100 like the 7x7 expansion on the TR8.

[@guntheriscariot3064]

just a little pedantic info, the EKO computerhythm was the first programmable drum machine...

[@StarskyCarr]

Well I did say I ‘thought it was’ 😂👍

[@guntheriscariot3064]

@@StarskyCarr ahahah indeed! But yes, the first one from the "big players"...

[@telogic1]

TR-8 update?

[@GolabKitsForTR-8s]

Cool thx.

[@VincentPresley]

Have they added a song mode yet? Yes, I know the annoying “work around” “trick” where you waste a bunch of the memory slots and sit there copying patterns in the order you want them. I want a proper song mode where I can tell the TR8S to play beat 01 b 4 times, 15e 4 times, etc. A feature that’s been around since the 80s yet was left off of this machine for some reason.

[@dankeplace]

My TR8 was a gr8 little machine, just that it was limited with those specific sounds, something that I think the market is a little too saturated with. Mind you, who doesn't like free things with firmware updates? TR8S is a nice machine, just too expensive when compared to other alternatives, no love loss though, I'm happy to have moved on but still can appreciate when others use these kits.

[@qwer4621]

did you make these original preset paterns on your own or did they come with the update?

[@StarskyCarr]

They come with the update.

[@Rockhistoria]

How do you find these presets, disco rhumba etc?

[@cornishwavesmusic]

Great vid dude, wondered if it can be updated without the card

[@StarskyCarr]

I don’t think so - I think you need to put the bin on the SD.

[@kevinbaker1873]

i upgraded over usb with no card @@StarskyCarr

[@cornishwavesmusic]

Cheers buddy@@StarskyCarr

[@pauldablue]

​@StarskyCarr - Yeah the internet is full of misinformation.

[@technodrone313]

hope they put a tunable 808 on the sh-4d

[@MaxZorin8]

Boutique CR-78 & Boutique JP-4, please...

[@waddilove10]

Thank you amazing video as per usual ..having a few problems with mine seem to have all the instruments and tr8s saying version 3.0 but have no kit .. on 085 I have last step demo instead of the CR-78 and no patterns for CR-78 if anyone can help be much appreciated .. thanks in advance

[@dionleeuwenburg1264]

Hey @waddilove. I had exactly the same problem. If anyone has the answer re: how to remedy this please share.

[@endoflevelboss]

A rhumba dumba.. a rhumba dumba.. cha cha cha. 🎉🥳

[@emmettkemet-dt5ko]

Lol Starsky sounds like yer merry teddy boy uncle down the local "ha haa a lil samba..a lil cha-cha"😂 Whats is name from Hi de Hi😂 Another great vid cheers

[@StarskyCarr]

Haha Ted Bovis or something like that.

[@GNeuman]

Ultravox, Gary Numan, Roxy Music.....

[@bigdebbie6265]

Updated mine. Have the individual CR78 sounds scattered. But can't find the Kit or the CR78 preset rhythms. My guess is because I have my projects saved there. Do I perform a back up and then do a factory reset? In order to get the CR 78 pattern presets and the Kit. Has any one done this before? Is it confusing? Any help much appreciate it. Thank you.

[@FatalFriction]

Hey Carr! Do you recon they might bring these new features to the TR-6S?

[@StarskyCarr]

They are 😀 the download’s on the Roland site.

[@DJEuroshopper]

When i updated mine today i still says at kit 085: LAST STEP DEMO. Can anyone help me? At the video i see the name CR78..

[@kikigalache2753]

I have same problem.

[@DJEuroshopper]

@@kikigalache2753 i figured it out. After doing the update you should do a factory reset. Fixed it for me

[@kikigalache2753]

Fixed, thanks friend !!!!👌

[@vibratehigh89]

figured it out, you have to do factory reset then you'll have the kit. problem is you'll also lose any kits you made yourself

[@StarskyCarr]

make sure you backup first so you can load all your old stuff again.

[@miltza]

I just did the update.. got the CR-78 sounds, but didnt get the cr-78 kit? did i miss somthing?

[@martinwest1009]

Ah man! When you said “Fill 1… Fill 2…” I was screaming for you to say “Fill Collins” and play In The Air Tonight. Oh well 😂

[@StarskyCarr]

Aaah… now there’s a missed opportunity 😂

[@vibratehigh89]

after I've updated to 3.0 why is it that my kit 85 is not the same as yours? my kit 85 says last step demo... not c7-78, I do have the cr-78 sounds if I look through inst, but not any kit

[@Gainn]

Only having 8 pattern banks is a bit annoying with all the new stuff.

[@TransistorBrothersMusic]

Did you just add the 'TR8S_UP.bin' file to your SD card at root level and then update from that? Updated but missing the CR-78?

[@StarskyCarr]

Factory reset is the answer I think. The instructions say to back everything up, perform the update then factory reset.

[@TransistorBrothersMusic]

Boom! Starsky to the rescue. Thank you.@@StarskyCarr

[@andrewcarnegie589]

Luvya vids, mate/...and YO ! it's CLAH-VAY or -VAYS, ( plural, as it takes 2 to produce the characteristic Latin sound ) not CLAVES, as in CAVES or CLOVES, for instance. So now you can tell me where to stick my CLAVE', OK ?

[@StarskyCarr]

Haha.. gotcha

[@GrgomirGaric]

3.0 is still not available on Roland web site? Or am I the onlyone not seeing it?

[@StarskyCarr]

There’s a link in the description.

[@didierambact3978]

Do you know if Suicide / Martin Rev used the CR78 for their early stuffs?

[@StarskyCarr]

no idea, but it's a distinct possibility.

[@tsunamitattoo2362]

I did the update but I cannot find the kit on my tr8-s. It states version 3.0. Did I miss a step?

[@StarskyCarr]

backup then factory reset

[@replikantofficial]

I wonder if this will be available for the TR8?

[@StarskyCarr]

I doubt it - I think they all shipped with everything g already on board. The 7X7 update was simply a code to unlock hidden onboard tones.

[@replikantofficial]

@@StarskyCarr cheers

[@andyparle5494]

I cant go for that, no can do….

[@brettlemmings]

does TR8s play the guiro like CR78 when tempo is slowed down?

[@StarskyCarr]

Yes it does :)

[@brettlemmings]

great!

[@tranquilityweaver6870]

hi where do you get the CR78 from? updated TR8s to 3.0 however can't find it anywhere would be grateful if anyone can point me in the right direction. Thanks

[@StarskyCarr]

Backup then factory reset

[@tranquilityweaver6870]

that's great thanks, will give that a go.@@StarskyCarr

[@bosh_music]

I just updated my tr6s to the 2.0 firmware but when I go to select a kit the CR78 is nowhere to be found. I can only access the CR78 in instruments. Does anyone have advice?

[@StarskyCarr]

Did you do the factory reset? ... instructions say to back everything up, perform the update then factory reset.

[@bosh_music]

@@StarskyCarr ah I see. It worked. Thanks!

[@paulmint1775]

👍👽

[@chambre466]

is it available for TR6S? I can y find it

[@StarskyCarr]

Yes it is... it'll be on Roland's website.

[@chambre466]

thanks@@StarskyCarr

[@kevinbaker1873]

HI sorry to trouble you iv just updated to firmwear v3 but when i select kit 85 i dont get cr78 i get Last step demo ??? can you help me out and tell me what im doing wrong please cheers Kev

[@StarskyCarr]

No idea sorry.

[@thedeepblueskys]

Did your machine confirm the firmware was updated, and does the version number match the new one? Just curious. I have yet to do mine.

[@TransistorBrothersMusic]

Having the same issue. Updated to V3.0 only TR-8S but no CR-78?

[@TransistorBrothersMusic]

Mine updated, confirmed and is displaying v3.00...but no CR-78. Just logged a support ticket with Roland UK. @@thedeepblueskys

[@thedeepblueskys]

@@TransistorBrothersMusic bummer man, I hope they get back to you soon so that you can get that fixed.

[@isaac.anthony]

I'm disappointed, i would have rather had generic USB mode than CR78 sounds. But tunable kick is pretty sick.

[@StarskyCarr]

I don't know if it's even possible to have a generic USB as a firmware update. I wouldn't hold your breath :)

[@isaac.anthony]

@@StarskyCarr the MC707-101 have generic USB, so IDK? Also, an "official" VST would be really nice....

[@kevinbaker1873]

can any body tell me why the cr78 stuff is not showing up afater a v3 firmwear update and tr editor update and roland cloud manager so i think im all up to date but NO CR78 cheers

[@TransistorBrothersMusic]

Having the same issue. Updated to V3.0 only TR-8S but no CR-78?

[@stanislavfretless6166]

Factory reset is the answer. Please read the update manual.

[@StarskyCarr]

Thanks, a couple of people have mentioned this, and I never thought of the final step!

[@hillier22]

I was having this problem and figured out what i was doing wrong. The Roland website procedure for the update lists step 4 - restoring data from SD after the factory reset. Just don't do this step and the new kit / patterns should show up. Mine is now all fixed! 🙂

[@kevinbaker1873]

@@hillier22 yep after a factory reset it all works now

[@akagerhard]

okay, that's weird. My comment disappeared. I promise it was completely harmless!

[@StarskyCarr]

I’ll take a look in the ‘held for review’ naughty pile 😂

[@StarskyCarr]

No, nothin there 🤷‍♂️

[@akagerhard]

@@StarskyCarr okay, that's weird. So my comment had 2 parts. One was asking you what was up with the mic quality in this video - maybe you were closer to the mic than usual? The other part was me saying that I am getting into Drum Machines (or rather sampled Drum Machine Kits). I purchased the "Beat Machines" library from IKM. Unfortunately those are too many Drum Machines and thus selecting the right one for a Track takes ages. I usually am looking for RnB or Hip-Hop sounds. I then went ahead and posted a list of all the Drum Machines included in that library and kindly asked if anyone recognizes some that used to be common in RnB or Hip-Hop - since trying them out one by one makes me go insane. I'll post the list seperately this time, in case that was the reason...

[@akagerhard]

This is the list: Ace Tone FR 2L Ace Tone FR6 Ace Tone FR7L Ace Tone FR8 Ace Tone Rhythm Ace FR-3 Baldwind Tempo-Matic Boss DR 110 Casio Casiotone MT-85 Casio MT-35 Casio MT-45 Casio MT-46 Casio MT-68 Casio PT-10 Casio PT-100 Casio PT-82 Casio PT-87 Companion 4 In The Floor Concert RF-Five Conn Min-O-Matic Rhythm CRB-81 Delptronics LDB 1 Drumfire DF 2000 Drumfire DF500 Electro Harmonix DRM 15 Electro Harmonix DRM-16 Electro Harmonix Space Drum ELI CR7030 Elka Wilgamat III ESP Electronically Simulated Percussion ESP Syncussion Formanta UDS Gigster Hammond Auto Vari Hillwood HR-2 Jasper Mini-Rhythm KR30 Jomox MBase 01 Jomox XBase 09 Keio Mini Pops Junior Keio Minipops 5 Keynote Auto-Rhythm MR 101 King Beat 7 King Beat Rhythm R-1000 Korg KPR 55 Korg KPR 77 Korg SR-120 Lell Clapper Lell Rototom Maestro MRK 1 Maestro MRK 2 Maestro Rhythm King MRK-1 Maestro Rhythm King MRK-2 Maxon DS200 MFB Drums 502 MFB Drums 522 Mica-sonic MPC Electronics The Clap Multivox Rhythm ACE FR6 Musicaid Clap Trap NDK Nomad Rhythm Maker 16 Normad Rhythm Maker Olson X-100 Olson X-81 PAiA Drummer Boy 7701K PAiA Programmable Drum Set 3750 Panasonic RD 9844 Panasonic RD-9844 Realistic Electronic Accompanist Regal Rhythm RE 175 Rhythm Boy 480 Roland CR 5000 Roland CR 78 Roland CR 8000 Roland TR 606 Roland TR 77 Roland TR 808 Roland TR 909 Roland TR-33 Sears Rhythm-Matic II Sears Rhythm-Matic Seeburg Rhythm Prince RP Seeburg Select-A-Rhythm Simmons SDS 8 Simmons SDSV Sound Master Rhythm 1 Sound Master SR 88 Star Instruments Synare Tama DS200 Tama TS 204 Tama TS 305 Thomas Bandmaster Model 55 Touched by Sound Clapcussion Tronix Rhythm Box RB-1 Unitra Eltra RTYM 16 Univox Micro Rhythmer 12 Univox Micro Rhythmer MR-8 Univox SR-55 Univox SR-95 Whippany Rhythm Master RM-10 Whippany Rhythm Master RM-20 Wurlitzer Sideman Wurlitzer Swingin Rhythm 5020 Yamaha MR10 Zachary Drummer Boy 10

[@StarskyCarr]

@@akagerhard weird! As far as the mic is concerned I’ve been trying different things. To stop the reverb in the room being too intrusive I’m using an Adobe AI based tool but it does weird things here and there. Sometimes I need to retake some stuff but it’s nowhere near as labour intensive as setting up the room, which wasn’t working well anyway. I’m balance this is better, but there are some occasional artefacts. Still working in an ideal solution.

[@kierenmoore3236]

“Clave”?! … You need to make a beat called “Slave to the Clave”, now, with the CR-78 sounds … 😉☺️

[@StarskyCarr]

I started off was calling it a clap... until I realised 'CL' meant clave and had to look up the correct pronunciation in the end... :)

[@PuRe_AdDicT]

“Clave to the Rhythm”

[@kierenmoore3236]

@@PuRe_AdDicT Clave to the Music 🎶