One was made by hand(35k unit per year) the other one made by machine/robot (1million unit per year) you know which one have more soul in it if we are talking about art piece. Rolex is just mass produced watch with a cartel like business model.
@PaddyMcMe Жыл бұрын
When you just put them side by side it REALLY emphasises that the only reason someone would pick the Rolex is because of brand name recognition.
@mrector2311 ай бұрын
This is so true and you can actually read it in the comments. I’ve always wanted the Polar Explorer II and find the GS superior in pretty much every way, possibly with the exception of the bracelet if only barely. And I still struggle with the magnetism of Rolex, they are way better at selling their brand than their watches.
@seanlinehan11369 ай бұрын
When you put them side by side, the grand seiko looks much more appealing. Movement? Grand seiko. But when you wear them (and I’ve worn both), you also realize why ppl choose Rolex: the feel. Grand seiko is light, but it’s bulky and cumbersome. Rolex has a way of mixing function AND form. Their bracelets are more comfortable, the cases aren’t too bulky, and the weight it well balanced. I’ve loved the grand seiko I’ve owned, but they don’t wear as beautifully as a Rolex with an oyster bracelets
@PaddyMcMe9 ай бұрын
@@seanlinehan1136 Did you get a chance to try a GS which wasn't made of titanium to see if that improved the bracelet wearing experience?
@linzitazim4 ай бұрын
The GS looks so much nicer. Love the case shape and dial.
@gg.komorebi Жыл бұрын
I like the Grand Seiko much more. And the Grand Seiko also has a more innovative movement than the Rolex.
@kenanorabi6767 Жыл бұрын
i have both but i'll go grand seiko all day everyday
@ken47477 ай бұрын
I used to be close minded about GS bracelet shapes, but now I understand the aesthetic they’re going for and it has grown on me a lot. The only thing they could improve on functionally is micro adjust capability on every clasp.
@andersjensen149911 ай бұрын
I have both even though my explorer II is the version with the black dial Love both watches - probably because they are both so versatile and comfortable to wear. I have had the explorer for 18 years now so I have a lot of memories with that watch. The grand Seiko is new to me but the more I wear it the more I like it. During the summer I was surprised how it looked in bright sunlight ☀️ and also how beautiful the lume was. The GS is also a watch that is not so mainstream and more under the radar which to me is just positive. If you know you know 😉
@whywecollectwatches Жыл бұрын
The Grand Seiko hands down is the winner. Just look at that beautiful dial face and the spring drive is more accurate than the Rolex.
@millersciencesms762 Жыл бұрын
I like the Grand Seiko so much better. The bracelet is a draw back, but I'd put it on a quality strap.
@steveyrock1 Жыл бұрын
I so miss the 10 and 2 podcast but I'm happy for both of them for moving on. Nice to see you, Kat
@wornandwound Жыл бұрын
Yay, thank you!
@4oclockcrown882 Жыл бұрын
The Evo is my favorite line in GS. They look great in hand and on wrist!
@wornandwound Жыл бұрын
Good choice!
@spektrograf Жыл бұрын
I'm probably one of the few that loves that the Evo 9 series bracelets don't have the taper that YT reviewers clamor about. Great video and thought share, as always!
@wornandwound Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@simonwright6882 Жыл бұрын
Foe me the grand seiko is on a different level.
@jlyt18 Жыл бұрын
GS needs to figure out how to get the spring drive movement into a thinner body
@oleg274 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. They do have slim profile spring drive movements, but those are manual winding
@chakapon7757 Жыл бұрын
Agree, GS watches with 9R66 always have thickness problem, should replace by 9RA* family. But it seemed no GMT 9RA* movement yet… 😅
@steventogami898Күн бұрын
Grand Seiko: Please make micro adjustments to the clasp. Love the open case back to see the spring drive movement.
@user-mr9yy3yf9q9 ай бұрын
I just got a GS Spring Drive dress watch and it won’t be my last. Having owned Rolex GMT IIs in the past, this one is VERY tempting. Bought two Omegas also in the last month, so need to reload the money gun first.
@CarComparos7 ай бұрын
The BIGGEST difference is that Rolex does not make a watch lower than 10,000$, Seiko does. If Seiko wants to be perceived to be as valuable as Rolex they need to stop selling watches cheaper than Rolex by the name of Seiko. Watchmaking and mesmerizing dials they got covered.
@DDWGG1 Жыл бұрын
Only if the bracelet wasn’t so wide on the GS! Also been loving all the video content y’all have been putting out these last few months. Much more engaging them some other watch outlets 😉
@wornandwound Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that!
@UnseenHero Жыл бұрын
I got to try on the grand Seiko earlier this year. I was excited to try it on as I thought it was a killer release. What definitely left an impression on me was the case design. I wasn't a fan of the bracelet and at that price point the bracelet is definitely a considerable selling point.
@aman803 Жыл бұрын
I love the GS so much but the 22 lug width kills it. I can’t do it.
@deskdiversthlmАй бұрын
Both great watches and would love the GS. But having tried them both I found the Polar to fit my wrist better. But apart from that I’d consider switching to the GS.
@jerryglasses2229 Жыл бұрын
Ive seen both of these in person and theres no comparison. The GS is finished so much nicer. A literal tool watch vs a fine high end luxury watch
@rodsalvador3608 Жыл бұрын
The Evolution 9, Explorer I, and a Tank. That's it, the 3 watch collection for life. Maybe a BB58 for fun.
@fabiansuarez5236 ай бұрын
Agree in three of the four mentioned
@joshuakaplan5726 Жыл бұрын
both are amazing pieces, but i'd take the 16570 over the mist flake. i have the bb pro and absolute love it, and the 16570 is the best version of the polar explorer in my opinion. rolex is king when it comes to sport watches, even though if i could have one rolex it'd be a DJ 36 with fluted bezel and jubiliee bracelet. GS is doing great things in the sport watch realm, but i think their best models are in the SBGW elegance series. They do some of the best dress pieces around, and i own the SBGW287 Boshu.
@ericmoss8344 Жыл бұрын
I loved this GS when it came out until I actually tried on on. It just didn't have that "it" factor for a $9K watch. GS please update your braclets... give them some taper and add an an-the-fly macro adjust please! Also not a fan of the GS power indicator obstructing that otherwise gorgeous dial. I'll keep my Rolex 216570 Polar as my daily for now and hopefully GS will make some updates down the road.
@speedyfett6528 Жыл бұрын
16570 gets my vote as it’s the watch on my wrist right now
@danielbercovici5202 Жыл бұрын
The explorer 2 is more of a heritage and homage to a time gone by.....😔
@RedwoodAggie Жыл бұрын
I came closer to getting an SBGE285, but in the end went with the black dial Explorer II 226570. The price difference was not that dramatic (and was almost identical when the 226570 came out in 2021). I feel like the sibling SBGE283 needs some texture on the dial. If it had the same texture as the SLGH017 "Night Birch" model, I might have gone with that watch. I'd also have liked GS to include some micro adjust in the clasp like on the SBGM245, which is another Explorer II-like GMT I considered. It's puzzling why some GS models get micro adjusts, some get lume, some don't. It comes off as there are different teams within GS and they all have different priorities on what they should have on a watch. Even within the Evo 9 line, this SBGE285 has amazing multi-colored lume when the "Birch" models don't have any. They are all sport watches, so it's just frustrating as an outsider wanting to find that perfect GS model.
@protonjicari59904 ай бұрын
I like Grand Seiko but I LOVE the bezel size on the Rolex !
@kimchiwasabee Жыл бұрын
Good vid. Thx. Greets from Warsaw.
@wornandwound Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@visionarystyle_ Жыл бұрын
16570 timeless design
@cohan.forcer Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed guys!
@iHorology6 ай бұрын
If I had to choose my first watch, I will go with Grand Seiko due to its pricepoint and unbeatable finishing and attention to detail. I will only go with Rolex if I ever want to consider reselling the watch. Thus for this GMT battle, its pretty easy to make a conclusion. Grand Seiko wins this round as I would prefer going through life experiences with it as I will not be looking to sell the watch.
@shenxshe024910 ай бұрын
In any ways other than the brand reputation, GS is pretty much superior all over. My money is on GS. End of discussion.
@amadeus5491 Жыл бұрын
Throwback to tenn and two podcast!
@mell3109 Жыл бұрын
And all GS needs to do is introduce a micro adjustment on the fly fro the bracelet and they will sell far more
@kongmw Жыл бұрын
The Exp 2 wins hands down, no contest. The awkward power reserve on the dial, the larger clunkier size, the lack of tapering in bracelet are solid Ls of the GS.
@limeem Жыл бұрын
16570 wins this watch - however 226570 with 50mm lug to lug, I think i would go with Mistflake. Shame that Rolex increased size on exp II, i guess they wanted GMT Master II to have no competition
@skzion23 ай бұрын
Since you're so concerned with awkward elements on a dial, what do you make of that oculus?
@vibr03146 ай бұрын
Look at the Grand Seiko's second movement-it looks like it's gliding. If I had the money, I would buy one.
@DrNitin14 Жыл бұрын
Between the two I'd pick the mistflake but second hand because GS's depreciate a lot. They do need to sort micro adjust on the bracelet at least if not on the fly then they would be a true great all round brand.
@Cinoism10 ай бұрын
You can fly to Japan, get the watch and have vacation there. It would still be cheaper in the states.
@user-of1qo3zt5s5 ай бұрын
@@Cinoism any suggestions for a store to get this watch? For example in Tokyo.
@Cinoism5 ай бұрын
@@user-of1qo3zt5s Grand Seiko Boutiques or most chain department stores like BIC camera or Yodabashi (10-15% discount). Not sure about situation now because I got my Mistflake in Malaysia for about a couple hundred bucks more. I only spend a day there. If I were to go to Japan, it would have been 3 days at least.
@sunandwind29833 ай бұрын
The Seiko makes the explorer 2 look like a dinosaur.
@vadergrd Жыл бұрын
gs looks better
@Kenji-TsuyoiАй бұрын
Grand Seiko
@carlkim2577 Жыл бұрын
My head says Grand Seiko. My heart says Rolex. It's fortunate that the current Explorer II is too large for my wrist. So I'm going GS.
@edjack1993 Жыл бұрын
Old Rolex for me thanks. I tried on this GS at my AD. Like the Tudor GMT’s, it’s just too thick (IMHO). Felt unbalanced on the wrist. Such a shame because it has so many characteristics of a classic.
@TedBarrera Жыл бұрын
Surprised to see a gap between the lugs and the bracelet on the GS.
@bigj32418 күн бұрын
Rolex. SBGE285 looks amazing but it's thick and GS should have gone with white dial rather than this grey dirty snow dial.
@aarons.watches Жыл бұрын
Arizona here🥵☀️..Is it trolling if I would 100% pick the GS? Maybe I’m a troll geek?🤔 Cold in the studio? (bonus troll)
@jlock81399 ай бұрын
What if gradseiko use the Rolex bracelet
@Annoyedsince1986 Жыл бұрын
Assuming this means Kat sold her SBGM 221 for the, what, 3rd time now?
@wornandwound Жыл бұрын
🤣
@demepenar32733 ай бұрын
I like GS than rolex because its something that you can get easily. Rolex AD will just play u around ask you to buy other garbage piece b4 they offer u rolex
@charlieboylol52710 ай бұрын
Grand Seiko all day long , thanks
@VB-37 ай бұрын
If someone chooses the Rolex over the GS, they need their head checked.
@fxdr1312 Жыл бұрын
GS all day long.
@ultimatedouchebag67607 ай бұрын
I just brought a GS. I'm not buying a rolex ever....rolex are watches for noobs. Spend money on companies that cares about you not marketing hype.
@dannyg6592 Жыл бұрын
I vote for the Explorer. I do not like GS bracelets or clasps.
@anacquiredtaste3582 Жыл бұрын
I love my GS bracelet
@dukes70 Жыл бұрын
Agree! GS bracelets little to no taper, clasps still no micro adjust except in divers. And then it’s not on the fly, you need a tool! Spend &10K+ and need a tool! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@SuperBechti Жыл бұрын
I fully agree with that, and I would add that the GS doesn’t look so proportioned. When looking at the Explorer everything looks so perfect.
@nelitacanoneo2027 Жыл бұрын
howmuch
@butch1dyke Жыл бұрын
SBGE285 Got my vote and is currently on my wrist now. On an aftermarket strap obviously since Grand Seiko still can't do bracelets.
@beatricesiobal5902 Жыл бұрын
How much
@odawgbrazy14 Жыл бұрын
rolex ref. 16570*
@stu632 Жыл бұрын
GS a better watch and finished to a higher standard. But it is let down dramatically by it's bracelet and GS need to do something about this weakness before they move forward any further in the world of horology. What is the point of having a beautiful innovative watch if it is uncomfortable to wear?
@rousseau32711 ай бұрын
This watch is not uncomfortable to wear, by any measure. There’s room for improvement, especially with the need for microadjustment, but this GS has a very high quality bracelet. And to bring up the GS bracelet without even touching on the frankly cheap feeling (by comparison) bracelets on the 5 digit Rolexes? Seriously?
@shenxshe024910 ай бұрын
agree, if they do provide a nicer bracelet, then its goodbye to rolex
@leonana119 ай бұрын
When you put them together, rOLEX UgLy aF
@SuperBechti Жыл бұрын
the Explorer II is way more esthetic than the GS to my taste. I don’t know why but I always find Seiko watches to be not charismatic and lacking of the thing that makes it exciting. In other words I find those watches to be not so special and not worth the price they sell for.
@fieldwalker Жыл бұрын
Thanks Blake and Kat. IMO - while sharing features, a bit of an odd comparison - a 10 to 20 year old Rolex to a new GS? And the Rolex can cost as much as 2x the cost of the GS given the whole Rolex 2nd hand markup. The decent condition 12-15 year old 16570s on C24 are still about 5k more that that almost new GS. Other random opinions - I'm one of the (apparently) rare types that likes a wide bracelet and dislike the looks a significant taper. thanks for the vid!
@RoyalDudeness Жыл бұрын
The Rolex is ugly and screams "poor guy trying to look rich" and the Grand Seiko is a great watch but has no soul. They are so many great brands, but Rolex is always great for clicks
@gregschulte29536 ай бұрын
Rolex all day long, GS has no value in the market.
@iandavies8616 Жыл бұрын
The Rolex over the Grand Seiko any day, likely to only increase in value whereas Grand Seiko's barely sell at all in the UK (and I've seen them heavily discounted). I love Seiko's budget mechanicals (and have owned many over the years) but in this price range it can't compete with Rolex (not even factoring in its fancy polishing!). That said I wouldn't choose this particular model Rolex as I think they have others in the range far more attractive than this one.
@shenxshe024910 ай бұрын
LMAO, the world is not just UK. budget mechanics, i think you need to do some homework. ITS GS not Seiko. I have few pieces including Rolex, VC, AP, tell you what GS is so far my best favourite. Rolex may have better brand reputation but i dont think they deserve that price tag. Its an old man watch brand with so average craftsmanship. Over years the market will change if Rolex sitting and doing nothing.