ROLEX from your AD - is it getting easier?

[@andrisveiss3212]

I did buy one Rolex from my ad a year ago so I guess I had a purchase history. Either way, I went in recently to “shoot the breeze” and ask about the batgirl. My ad had one and offered it to me on the spot! Needless to say i bought it! So yes, i think it is getting easier to get watches! Exciting times :)

[@TheRandomWatchDude]

Wow that's a very good story, well done! It goes to show you must be a genuine good guy and did all the right things!

[@TheChallengerKianHfjdbciancj]

My local AD is in Oxford, when I enquired the digital enquires assistant told me that as Oxford is less populated rather than a city like London, vegas etc. I have a better chance to get the watch I was asking about, my dream is a gmt master 2, what are your thoughts on this?

[@TheRandomWatchDude]

@TheChallengerKianHfjdbciancj whilst I think that's probably true, it also comes down to affluence in the area, as well as overall population. Also the smaller ADs don't get the same size allocation of watches. Personally I think it makes little difference, and you can expect to wait quite some time, and probably need to be a familiar face. Good luck 👍

[@youssouflemartyr-ux6kg]

I understand your advice well and I think it is very good and I thank you for guiding us on the best attitude to have to obtain a sport Rolex. However, what a disgrace to be forced to flatten yourself like a rug in front of someone you don't know and with whom you have nothing to do. Without wanting to be presumptuous or contemptuous, these guys are just watch sellers, They might as well sell clothes or dildos!

[@TheRandomWatchDude]

Thank you for the feedback. I agree some of them would be better at selling dildos, and demonstrating them!

[@youssouflemartyr-ux6kg]

😂

[@PatrickHawthorne]

you are very fortunate my friend. I have been waiting 2 years now for mine and have visited the ad on a couple of occasions recently to purchase some gold and to ask about my ordered watch. I have past history of shopping in the store since they used to service my Breitling. I guess for them that is not enough of a history to guarantee me a sale - but if they are not careful I may go and purchase a Blancpain sports watch instead and Rolex can Foxtrot Oscar.

[@fj7509]

Very good video, I'm glad I found your channel! I agree and don't think we will ever see a Daytona offered without a purchase history again. GMT is a toss-up. Submariner might be offered with no purchase history if you show your face regularly. I was offered mine with a purchase history. There's also a family-owned AD in my area who said they could get double the Rolex allocations and it would be nowhere near the amount they would need to satisfy demand. For everyone wondering why you will never see these models on shelves again even if grey market prices aren't that bad, it's because Rolex knows how well this strategy works. You walk into a dealer and see empty shelves and immediately think of high demand and exclusivity even if the market dictates otherwise.

[@TheRandomWatchDude]

Thank you and yes I couldn't agree more with you! The new factories that everyone thinks will increase volume, are going to disappoint a lot of people!

[@h.l6344]

I love the watches just hate the ADs 😂 All that fake chatting and having a relationship with your AD is defo not up my street 😂 ... I would be laughing when they finally discount all the unwanted watches bring back that era when the watch market is super dead! 💪🤣🤣🤣

[@steelsteez6118]

Truthful video, i like it. I completely agree. It's like this in the states as well.

[@jcwatches6573]

Dealers generally only want to get watches on consignment. That’s because the market is not stable. There’s a way to go. Keep an eye on grey prices. When they go below many people will switch and availability really will open up!

[@P8REN]

I bought a GMT Master II from the AD window whilst walking past a couple of months ago here in the UK. Abroad, I've seen an AD with over 110 pieces in stock and ready to buy (everything from sports models, full platinum models, pretty much every Datejust configuration etc).

[@TheRandomWatchDude]

You bought a GMT Master 2 as a walk-in at an AD in the UK, 2 months ago? You know how unlikely that story is don't you??!!! I'd need more detail on this.... are you an existing client?

[@P8REN]

@@TheRandomWatchDude I am an existing client but they didn’t know that until after I enquired and got confirmation from them that they can sell it. Apparently it was in the window for an hour before I walked past and enquired. I saw the full yellow gold GMT in a London AD window for sale the other day and the AD abroad had 3 of them for sale

[@kevinhung1575]

How difficult do you think would it be to get the two-tone GMT GRNR? I love that watch, it's a precious metal watch, but it's still a GMT. Also, are Day Dates more available to get?

[@TheRandomWatchDude]

I think if you prove you are a serious buyer to an AD, and you have cash ready to go, you would get that TT GMT very quickly. They're nowhere near as popular as the full steel. Day Dates are a lot more difficult as they are seen as prestige models, for the upper classes, and ADs are careful who they sell them to. Again if you prove you are serious and have the cash then go for it. Go for both is my advice, and one will come quickly.

[@zakhary4490]

Just went to an AD a couple of days ago with my brother to enquire about a watch for each, the watch seller was kind and friendly she had us on the Sub Date and the Batman without a purchase history, tho she was pushing us off of other models at first like the new GMT, the Batgirl and was trying to give us the no-date Sub, she didn't try to sell us less popular models, she was interested in putting us on watches according to our personal preference. She didn't give us a wait time range when we asked but I think this may be a good sign

[@TheRandomWatchDude]

Sounds like a nice experience for you both. Check out my video on the Waitlist Explained, and that may help you to decide what to do next. If you do nothing, you won't get a watch...

[@zakhary4490]

@@TheRandomWatchDude I've had it in a new tab and I'm watching it right now haha. We're in Canada but originally from Egypt so we're going back this week for the summer so we won't be able to walk in the AD anytime soon, but will do as soon as we come back maybe with a souvenir/small gift

[@dennischen8887]

It’s not easier at least here in Taipei. I went to the highest rated Rolex AD in Taipei today I found on google and I straight up asked them how hard it is to get a Pepsi gmt. They said they have not gotten even 1 in the past year. I also asked if I needed to buy other watches to bundle with the more desirable models or have a major spend history and they said no I do not have to. They said the issue is that they are not getting stock for more desirable models, there’s simply not enough to go around. Anyway I put my name down for the Starbucks and the Pepsi and not holding my breath.

[@TheRandomWatchDude]

You have to be in it, to win it. Congratulations on having that conversation with the retailer and then going on the list anyway.

[@Akj6zmdteuxze]

As someone who is in the game , let me explain. U have no spend history so u have no chance . Zero. Next , they want u to treat the brand like a girl u hope to date. U wouldn’t get her if u dun take the initiative to make her happy first . That includes buying things that u may not need or like. Of coz the pretty girl u like will never tell u to buy anything for her because she is “not that type of gold digger” so it’s really “up to u” and take things easy after all she is not looking for love since she has options . This is the perfect example I believe 😂 So it’s always your call , Tudor , oyster Perpetual 34 , lady datejust 28 (best if two tone or full gold ) . These days, they will give u a little hug and make u feel you have more chance to bed her if u buy full full gold sub , full gold sky dweller or yellow or white gold YM.

[@phxfan81]

same here, I went to Chung Mei Zhongshan Store yesterday to check for a DJ41 but no luck, I was told that there are people who are still waiting around a year for that model. So I will opt in for a Franck Muller V45/V43 hopefully...

[@JLim3111]

Nice video and info. But never say never. Shifting in trends are unavoidable. It’s just a matter of time.

[@TheRandomWatchDude]

Yes like shifting sand dunes! Time will tell!

[@Kiwi_General]

Does see to be much easier at the AD. Called in to my AD today, all display stock still exhibition only. They still have very little to buy now other than a few small datejusts. So our small market still seems to be tight on supply in comparison to bigger world markets.

[@ripstikgod]

I went into an AD while on vacation and dropped in for 5 minutes asking about an SS Explorer 1 36mm for my father’s birthday. He shrugged me away but was nice and I went on about my vacation. In 36 hours, the SA texted me asking me to come in to claim it! It is getting slightly better for some of the entry models, including no date and date black bezel subs. But gmt’s and up still require some purchase history it seems. I have about $25k spend at an AD and am still waiting on a sprite.

[@TheRandomWatchDude]

That's a very nice story, and one which would have been unheard of a couple of years ago. Even since I made this video, I think the market has become even better for us buyers. Not easy, but realistically achievable for most models except those pesky GMTs and Daytonas!

[@rah5500]

I have a spend history of 25k, no date Sub, DJ41 and a Rado for my mother. I've been on the waitlist for a BLNR for 2-3 years. Hopefully get a call towards the end of the year. I've asked for the OP tiffany 36mm which the AD told me could take 6 months - 1 year

[@BRARTlN]

I’m buying in the grey market. I don’t have time for AD’s

[@RootBeerGMT]

Bull 🐂 💩 Alert! Just returned from Vegas. Hit like 5 ADs. Not a one of them would sell me a RootBeer, let alone anything else.

[@matports_live]

Steel Submariners, GMT Masters, and pretty much all Daytona's will still be very hard to come by. In some markets (particularly Australia & New Zealand) the hotter steel DateJusts are also going to be hard to come by. The question that we must ask ourselves - if we were a Rolex AD owner/manager, would we give these 'assets' out easily? That's not smart business. We will, across all Rolex models/variants, continue to see a big cooling off on grey & secondary market pricing.

[@RootBeerGMT]

Is that why Rolex has a second factory coming on line? They are doubling down to make watches that aren’t for sale?

[@matports_live]

@@RootBeerGMT Rolex new facilities will be more about taking the product to higher levels in terms of quality and innovation. They aren't going to be churning out product in higher numbers than what they are now (keeping in mind that they already churn out their watches in much higher numbers compared to all other watch brands).

[@Akj6zmdteuxze]

assets . lol . That’s a very outdated view if u ask me. Perception changes fast . Just saying .

[@steelsteez6118]

​@@RootBeerGMTHey JR, while I love your positive thinking and while I wish this secondary factory would help provide all these desirable models to all watch enthusiasts, unfortunately that secondary factory will only satiate probably an additional 5% of the demand. ADs will continue to control the narrative and distribution. Think of it this way. Let's say the ADs supply magically doubled for every single one of tgeir shipments they receive for 2024 starting tomorrow. What they'll start to do is just hoard double what they were hoarding in their back inventory. They know damn well its not in their best sales interest to just start giving these out to new customers with no spend or ourchase history. So they'll continue playing their "we havent received any submariners, GMTs, explorer 2s, etc for a while" 🤷‍♂️ while they are now hoarding twice the amount in the back. They will then continue their back door deals with dealers so they get their additional premiums and continue to reward only new customers that start a purchase history with non Rolex brands first. This unfortunately will never change anymore unless something insanely drastic happened (short of like how France forced Rolex so start offering online sales of their CPO program). But yeah man, it sucks and i really hope im wrong but i just dont see it changing because its of no benefit to the AD.

[@TheRandomWatchDude]

@@Akj6zmdteuxze Everything you own that has value is an asset. Just don't buy a watch as an asset, but buy it because you like it.

[@mattlatorra264]

Saw the title of this video and chuckled. I remember about 2 months ago you released a video that said you were done with Rolex for a while and wanted to focus your watch journey on other brands....and yet here we are 😂😂😂😂

[@TheRandomWatchDude]

And you didn't watch the video to discover that I was talking about the market, not whether I wanted to get a watch or not. Don't comment if you don't listen to what I actually say

[@lightwave000]

I was told by my AD that they have not seen a single Submariner date or no date allocated to them yet this year!

[@TheRandomWatchDude]

wow! That's the best way to prop up the secondary market prices and therefore demand though!

[@JohnBowman-ut4dz]

Hi great video it took me 18 months to get a bi metal sea dweller I didn't have Rolex spend history and live about one and half hours drive away from my nearest Rolex ad so it was hard to just pop in for a chat. But what I tried and did was to be completely honest with them and did go in about five times in 18 months tried on different watches and sizes which I really need to do as I have very big wrists. In the 18 months I did cave in and buy a james Cameron from the Gray market and told my Rolex ad to take me of the list for that model. I'm a person hoo likes to be honest with people so when I was going to give up and get a bi metal sea dweller on the Gray market I went to my Rolex ad for a update and asked him how much longer I would have to wait with Rolex and he told me about 6 weeks so I waited .it took 8weeks I don't know if that was the best way or not what do you think? Thanks John.

[@TheRandomWatchDude]

Hi John. Your story reminds me of when I got my SD43 actually. Back in early 2021, I decided I'd waited long enough, and had a frank conversation with the sales associate about how I was disappointed that I was not getting a call, and had seen a couple of their other sports watches being flipped, so how come those flippers get a call and I don't? Literally within days I got a call for the SD43. So that's why I think being honest, and genuine helps a lot. Love that two tone SD!

[@CykOfficial]

Way too easy. Things are looking bad! Hold on a few years and get a discount!

[@TheRandomWatchDude]

Only a few years longer!

[@nigeldorman414]

Lol, never gonna happen. Been waiting 13 months wait now so far as of august 2024 for a sub with decent purchase history and I show my face in there and have a chat with them. Grey market prices might have come down but getting one new from an AD is still the same wait it has been for the last few years

[@Josue-411]

I think your experience may be outdated, specific to you & your country, and not representative of the current market. I personally know 3 people (in 🇺🇸) that bought watches (DJ, Explorer, & Sub) with no spend history (at that specific AD) and only waited 3-9 months. I’m going to put my name on the list for an Explorer 36 soon and will circle back with my experience.

[@TheRandomWatchDude]

I said the DJ should be available to you with little or no spend history in 6 months maximum, not minimum, so yes you might get it next week! That's the same here in NZ. However the hard to get models like Daytona, GMT, Submariner no way without a spend history unless you get lucky or know somebody. Definitely please let us know how long it takes you to get an Explorer. 6 months absolute max is my guess.

[@GM-ii8gs]

A big shipment of subs went to the US last autumn. Rolex has been trying to keep the wait lists in the US manageable, they are now working on other markets.

[@joonkt3483]

May I know if those were full steel or half gold models they managed to buy?

[@GM-ii8gs]

@@joonkt3483 Do you mean the shipment to the US? It was a lot of steel, Rolex reduced production of semi and PM over the summer as global demand dropped, now the ADs are trying to get rid of them.

[@emmanuelrodriguez5044]

I’ll give you an example, I have a good Rolex AD and I bought 2 watches already from him, recently I turned 40 an I was promised a GMT or an explorer 2 polar well never happened and I know he tried 😢

[@TheRandomWatchDude]

That's a shame! It used to be the case that a special occasion was a great time to be offered a Rolex, but even that isn't enough anymore. It's just pot luck!

[@Saints-Forever]

Rolex will do whatever it takes (including limiting supply) in order to maintain their steel sports models are the bargaining chips for their other precious metals models due to higher margins.

[@TheRandomWatchDude]

Absolutely! It's so ironic isn't it

[@Fifty_Jay]

@@TheRandomWatchDude @Saints-Forever That’s funny how they just figured this out 6 years ago. Yeah this will go on forever. 😂😂

[@wmdouglas3]

If I walked into my AD every 4 to 6 weeks, I’d be viewed as being annoying.

[@TheRandomWatchDude]

They like it here, especially if you buy something now and then

[@Lovemy911]

Enjoying the content Just one thing sir, are you in disguise??? 😮

[@TheRandomWatchDude]

Thank you, sir. yes I am in disguise 🥸

[@therealcountrybumpkin]

Rolex is the apex of a company who can easily separate rich people from their money😂😂

[@TheRandomWatchDude]

Wealth is relative though. Most truly rich people wouldn't be seen dead with a Rolex on. It's far too common!

[@h.l6344]

​@@TheRandomWatchDude Very true! 😅 Rolex is actually for the poor or the working mans/women ... its an idea of a positive goal for the poor mans/women life. Hence why I have a few 😅... and I am defo not rich 😂😂😂

[@Kryptides]

Didn't they just open two more factories? LOL

[@TheRandomWatchDude]

Yes but not to make more volume! To make less volume more efficiently!

[@americantarmacker514]

He just said undesirable and precious metals in the same sentence smh

[@steelsteez6118]

yep. Which is exactly what this youtuber is saying so not sure how that's bs 😂.

[@javonthompson658]

Should you tip your AD?

[@TheRandomWatchDude]

it's very common even here in NZ for people to give their Sales Associates gifts. In most industries that would be considered bribery and a a conflict, and the employer would forbid it. However corruption and bribery is rife in the Rolex game so....

[@javonthompson658]

@@TheRandomWatchDude now I understand why the response to my second request seemed somewhat cold. 🤦‍♂️

[@TheRandomWatchDude]

@@javonthompson658 All ADs are different and the culture is set by the store manager. I would always recommend a chat with the store manager where possible to let them know you're serious etc. I have never even considered bringing my AD a gift, as I see it as their job to give me great service. In return I give them my money. But in some stores I know that bribery rules.

[@epictetus__]

This video is embarrassingly cringy for a new watch collector, discussing various ways to suck up to a Rolex AD

[@TheRandomWatchDude]

Well at least I didn't advise you to use tongue!

[@americantarmacker514]

He definitely a liberal

[@2GoodLookin]

Thanks for pissing on the tiny glimmer of hope I had after talking with my AD last week. 😥😥😥

[@TheRandomWatchDude]

You're welcome! What model are you after, as it does vary according to the model?

[@2GoodLookin]

@@TheRandomWatchDude Sprite, Batgirl, diet rootbeer. Cause I know there isn't a chance in hell I'll get a Pepsi.

[@TheRandomWatchDude]

@@2GoodLookin I reckon you've got a good chance of getting the Rootbeer fairly quickly. Two tone models are much easier to get now, even since I made that video. I've uploaded a more recent update just last week where I talk about two tone vs steel. Might be worth checking that out!