The Rolex Waitlist Is Fake...for Most People.

[@TheoandHarris]

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[@ShaunKVideos]

This guy on the left probably gets sick a lot. He rubbed his nose at least 100 times in this video. Is that a nervous tick?

[@TalkBoxRodeo]

Cocaine? 😂

[@markreynolds9135]

Buying blue chip art is worse than promoting Bitcoin. Come on guys, you’re better than this nonsense.

[@alfieakaronaldog]

Scammers lol

[@alfieakaronaldog]

@@markreynolds9135 The thing is they are not lol. Just showing their true colors 😜

[@joshwinzinger8644]

I’ve gone from saving and dreaming of a Rolex to absolutely despising the brand. Shifted happily to omega

[@ScaredCops]

You’re missing out. Omega not up to par with Rolex. I’ve had 5-6 Seamasters and 6 subs, rolex is better

[@TheJosephhomere13]

@@ScaredCops in what way is Omega not up to par with Rolex? I’m genuinely curious in your opinion. I’ve owned more Omegas than Rolex’s in my life and I think Omegas are better value and have much more interesting movements and designs.

[@ScaredCops]

@@TheJosephhomere13 better value? I bought a sub in 2000, wore it as a daily for 7 years and got my money back when I sold it. To me the Seamaster, handset is terrible, the bracelet is terrible, the exhibition caseback is unnecessary, and shows a bland movement (they bedazzle the thing till it’s a blur). I ask non-watch people and they think Omega is a mall watch.

[@loopbloke]

@@ScaredCops problem is not that, Rolex is not available for many

[@matts6551]

@@ScaredCops so let me get this straight you wear Rolex because you like the way it looks or you actually use it for it’s purposes of diving? The sea master destroys Rolex if you actually use it for its purpose. It’s like they say, omega makes watches, Rolex just sells them.

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[@complicatedtime]

I’m just tired of Rolex. So common. So boring. They make 1.4M watches a year. They serve one purpose - to impress people who know NOTHING about watches. IWC, Omega, Zenith, Lange…far more interesting from a horological perspective.

[@mattg27]

I totally agree with this. I believe that most of the hype around Rolex isn’t about history or quality or design. The #1 thing that they offer that nobody wants to admit is that you won’t spend $10k+ on a watch without everybody around you recognizing that you have an expensive watch.

[@markreynolds9135]

820,000 watches annually

[@radiospank]

100% agree, I my self have just gotten into watches a few years ago and Rolex is just a name synonymous with being rich but really they are certainly not the most expensive out there but they are attainable for avg working professionals if they choose. My point is it’s so coveted by people just for the mere fact it’s popular, i definitely have my sights set on a omega for my next watch because of this.

[@meetseth3]

Spoken like someone who can’t get a Pepsi or Rootbeer like me. Yeah stick with those brands. They don’t get the respect like my SS Daytona

[@Sensiblefool]

@@meetseth3 people recognize one Rolex and it’s not the Daytona it’s the sub.

[@CaptainZed]

I am done with Rolex. I walk right by the AD all the time and could care less. They are dead to me. Meanwhile, if you visit Omega, it's typically a really good experience, and you can actually buy what you want.

[@r3dRoVeR247]

With the exception of a silver snoopy. Unless you have a relationship with the boutique, you're not getting one unfortunately

[@StevenPink]

@@r3dRoVeR247 Yeah, I own a Seamaster Pro and Aqua Terra bought from Mayor's. I contacted them about getting a silver snoopy right when it was announced and they said they would register my interest. I've been checking in for 2 years and the last time I checked in they said they've only gotten 2 since the announcement. Omega Boutiques are the only place that seem to get the allocations and I have no purchase history with an Omega Boutique so I've been SOL. I've had a much better experience getting Rolex allocations from Tourneau in the last 2 years than with the Omega Boutique.

[@BosworthMcG]

“Couldn’t “ care less is the expression you’re looking for.

[@JacReviewsStuff]

Ive paid deposit and im still waiting two weeks for my green seamaster :(

[@StevenPink]

@@JacReviewsStuff My Omega boutique has these sitting in the case every now and then. Don't let them jerk you around.

[@SirStamford27]

How I wish the whole world to just give up on Rolex.

[@MarcosVenti]

it blows my mind people going fucking crazy for them, too annoying. I want variety and other watches. All the hype makes it boring to me, I don't care how hard it is to get it that's not what horology is about.

[@mrcom4359]

I agree about the rings and the weddings, but you might end up in some hot water telling your fiancé that the thing that they have to wear (presumably) forever that represents their commitment to you must be cheap and boring in order not to be competitive. On the other hand, my spouse picked the cheapest and most boring ring in the store, and I knew she was the one.

[@daveveloz]

Got my wife a BEAUTIFUL vintage sapphire wedding ring when I proposed. She adored it. Still does. Any woman who thinks an expensive wedding ring is an actual determiner of love and commitment is in for a harsh reality check.

[@zaco-km3su]

A simple wedding band should be enough. It doesn't have to be expensive.

[@mhallon24]

Im sure someone has asked this. But if you’re going to spend $200K to get a Rolex at MSRP, why not just buy it from a reputable grey dealer and take the L on the mark up? The mark up would be way less than $200K

[@loopbloke]

video starts at 7:23

[@isaac_bear]

Thanks bro

[@junkotamiya]

In Korea and Japan, it has become kind of the social expectation that an engagement ring should be worth 3 month's of the guy's salary. Women consider men losers if they are ONLY buying $1000 engagement rings. Personally, I think expecting the ring to cost 3 months of the man's salary is ridiculous. But, similar to the luxury brand boom going on in those countries, public perception and flaunting success has become the mainstay even in regards to engagement rings.

[@regisbarou4922]

I bought a rolex sub 5513 a very long time ago (43 years ago). Just had to push the AD's door in my home town ans got a 10% discount for it. Today situation is just insane. For sure I will never knee down just to get a chance to buy a watch.

[@mattcarter-bennett]

I experienced the same treatment at a Rolex AD last year; I was told to buy at least an Omega first and some jewelry for my wife if I wanted any chance of looking at a Rolex. To add insult to injury, I have purchase history at that store! I’ve never returned. Great, great channel, guys. Thanks for your views.

[@zaco-km3su]

Rolex is overpriced. Just don't buy them anymore.

[@alfieakaronaldog]

Name and Shame the AD then if this is a true story and you feel it’s unreasonable 😉 My experience, in a similar situation, is that they said I needed a purchase history (fair enough I would say). I hardly had one, but decided to buy an Omega that I wanted a short time after anyway (at a discount). I then got a call for an OP about a year later. Bit of games playing maybe, but if it worked it was worth it.

[@mobydick3895]

A Rolex is essentially a conversation piece. Getting one at an AD demonstrates that you have social skills. Try to be an interesting person that the AD people want to get to know. Assure them that you never sell a watch to turn a profit. I assure the AD that I would never buy a Rolex on the used Rolex market unless it is some kind of a massive leveling up situation that would require a trade up. I tell the AD watches are valued as reminders of my younger life. I wear my watches to the AD to demonstrate I am a real buyer. When circles of guys compare Rolexes at parties it is a feather in your cap to be able to say you got yours from an AD.

[@randallsmith7885]

Speculative demand is driving this Rolex bubble. And bubbles eventually burst. Always. The way to help it along is to abstain from the market until things return to normal. Others will want the apparently unobtainable thing. Let them spend their money feeding it. Rolex will add product (they are allegedly building a new factory) and the market will run out of people willing to pay high prices and the bubble will burst. You are smart not to participate.

[@sapientbudgie5652]

You are not getting a GT3 RS, or even a Hermes bag…welcome to reality. 10 million guys want a submariner at retail. Your KZbin channel glorifies Rolex. Rolex is the tittle of your video. You are partly responsible for making Rolex as popular as they are. So, you are getting jack shit in the scarcity market. Shocking.

[@madrat5176]

The Rolex scam is truly disgusting. I’m so turned off of the brand at this point. Wouldn’t buy one if I could actually find one at retail. There are many brands at this point that would get my money before I’d even look at a Rolex

[@nomansland120]

and you are free to do so. But you aren't, so Rolex hardly lost a customer.

[@madrat5176]

@@nomansland120 Oh ok 😂

[@samuelburton5576]

@@nomansland120 OKAY!!!

[@amirrahnavard2231]

Everyone needs to keep talking about Rolex…. That’s how we’ll beat them lol.

[@madrat5176]

@john d it’s deliberate artificial scarcity. Demand hasn’t skyrocketed in recent years. It’s always been among the most popular of luxury brands. It wasn’t that long ago that you could walk into an AD and have a shelf full of steel models (DJ, Explorer, submariner, etc.). A conscious decision was made to turn it into a circus. I own two models that I bought when you can walk into an AD and actually buy one, but I’d be embarrassed to wear one today. It’s a loser company as far as I’m concerned.

[@BAF605]

Not sure how these two expect to be taken seriously when every vid they are shilling some scammer's scheme or other. Invest in blue chip art?? Really!!

[@rickjason215]

I wanted to buy my wife a Rolex. We went to the AD and the owner sat us down in a separate room and has us pick out features. He said we will have a watch in a few weeks, but we had to give a third as a deposit. Five months later, no watch. I realized that I was suckered. The AD makes money on the deposits. I asked for my money back and the AD was shocked I wanted my money. He didn’t want to give me back my money. I was never going to get a watch and I had a purchase history, prior to the present craziness.

[@IRFIndustries]

Name and shame

[@warlordop713]

Report them that’s theft

[@tyarnold4088]

I feel you man. It's getting crazy.

[@edgraziani5019]

This didn’t happen. AD’s do NOT take deposits on Rolex at all. You cannot order one, you can’t build one and put a deposit on it, you can’t put one on hold with a deposit…. You can’t do any of that. So this is completely false.

[@masterwatch]

The Rolex "waiting list" has always been fake. Rolex ADs have always had preferred customers and these days have indirectly sold their stock on the inflated Grey Market. Now Rolex is openly entering the Grey Market ultimately motivated by the perceived profit opportunity. I am expecting Rolex's CPO (Rolex Second Hand Watches) to include actual Rolex old stock/ New Old Stock.

[@johncotis5568]

Zenith Chrono 38 arrived just yesterday and then I watched this. On my 7.25" wrist it fits great. I can see that the lugs look a little long but not an issue for me.

[@adamhubler7006]

Dbag

[@thor_86]

I believe new york is especially crazy due to the vast amount of wealthy people, with only 8 (that I could count) ADs and literally 1 million millionaires (in manhattan). But in most smaller cities that aren't big metropolises full of rich people, altho hard you can definitely get one without spending 100k on other shit. I've bought 5 of them in 2 ADs and I only have around 8k of spending history that wasn't a rolex. I live in a european city with less than 750k of population, most people are regular people with regular salaries, with some millionaires here and there among the commoners.

[@edwardoconnor3082]

I am currently on a waitlist. First purchase. Assured I will have a watch. We shall see.

[@bhuber77]

Any update?

[@josephgschwartz]

At this point I don't even want to associate with Rolex. But I'm not their customer... I guess. I've got the cash but my professional sentiment is that I am not going to pay for something where they are deliberately raking you over the coals. And I'm definitely not going to spend money when I'm supposed to be grateful for that treatment. I'm not that stupid. That's an abusive relationship.

[@ThePilotSports]

My uncle bought a Submariner in 1970 on his way back from Vietnam. It was a gift to himself for surviving. He wore that watch everyday, and as a 5 year old boy I was just fascinated by not only the watch but what it represented to him. Fast forward 35 years, and, after 9+ years of saving, I finally have the money to buy one myself. Only I can’t! All of the snobbery involved now is a shame for people like me who want one for the right reasons. So much so that I honestly don’t even want one anymore.

[@staceygram5555]

Buy vintage.

[@ArtBorow]

Buy Omega. Don't feed this scam.

[@meenmug5797]

You are not reading the room my man. The cause of this is not the ‘snobbery’, it is the vultures that are feeding on supply / demand of the industry. Once they crawl back to where they came from to feed on their next ‘hustle’ ADs won’t have to be so selective. Rolex could easily double their retail cost and capitalize on the demand for themselves.

[@ThePilotSports]

@@meenmug5797 you’re right!

[@xsukeyx]

I can relate - my dad was a test pilot in the RAF and bought a pepsi GMT Master when he was hired by a major airline in the early 60s. He died last year and I haven't been able to find it... maybe it was stolen. I decided to buy one for myself as he did and had no idea there was this waitlist issue. Ugh.

[@fabulousfab_ffm]

I'm all with you shitting on Rolex for their ridiculous distribution policy and hitting on low brains trying to impress douche bags with their expensive Rolexes. I just wouldn't do it with a USD35k GMT Master II in white gold dangling on my wrist...

[@MS28227]

Owned a 214270 that I bought pre-Covid new at a Rolex AD. As I began to see what the brand has become, I sold it. I’m Enjoying my Omega’s much more. It started with one….

[@Markpaul9]

Thank you for making this and just coming out and saying it. I completely agree. Can I just say that what I feel is most disappointing is that commerce I.e. paying for something at a shop is the best way to remove discrimination, racism, feudalism etc. Commerce is meant to set an even playing field. Rolex said no to that, no to general commerce, and we should never forget that.

[@romanmichaelhamilton8729]

I'm not sure of the details regarding the contracts that ADs sign with Rolex, but would be fantastic if one of the large ADs dropped them and/or sued them for the inability to provide them with stock. This will in time kill off the Rolex brand in time as there so many other brands to choose. This is coming from a huge Rolex fan, but the games they are playing are repulsive.

[@IXIFrostIXI]

Good example of why people Are going to high end reps

[@Sams911]

4 years waiting for a GMT Meteorite dial at an AD where I've spent $50K on Rolex... and nothing. I then find out a guy waited 2 weeks at the same AD... why? He spent closer to $500K on "stuff"

[@robertp5123]

Honestly…. I wish we would stop talking about Rolex. It would be nice to start hearing more about Omega, IWC, Breitling, and Longines. I’m sick about hearing the same story about Rolex. Rolex is basically all hype and well marketed. In my opinion, I enjoy the customer service experience I receive at my Omega boutique. The experience is classy as the timepieces they offer.

[@richardtan322]

Everyone works hard for their money and when one is prepared to spend thousands on a luxury watch, one is expected to be treated with respect and make the buying experience a memorable one and not be greeted with empty shelves and same old answer of nothing is available. Stick to Omega, awesome purchase experience.

[@p.9608]

I am not sure about this, but the get treated how they want to get treated otherwise they would not go for these products. btw..."the-working-hard-for-money-guys"... this is not the kind of folk luxury brands make living from and so they treat the others one them like they thing they deserve it. Just saying.

[@BobbyDazzler888]

Its not really luxury. Nothing about rolex is luxury. Even their boxes and cheap crap.

[@nomansland120]

If 100 people would walk into the Omega store at once all wanting a Speedmaster that was in the window, the store would be empty as well. Now tell me, which out of those 100 people would be more deserving of one. And with the remaining 99 that didn't get a speedy they wanted, they will go cry like babies online, justlike you are now. Fact is, nobody wants to buy a watch and lose 30% of their money walking out the door. That's why Omega doesn't have waitlists.

[@pinkbono]

@@nomansland120 if you were trying to purchase a Seamaster 300 in green, so you would know that Omega has waiting lists for specific models. Then, on a second note, just for you to know, Tudor has also waiting lists, specifically regarding the Pelagos blue, the Pelagos 39mm and both the BB Chronometers.

[@nomansland120]

@@pinkbono The difference is that those brands have 1-2 models that have a "waitlist" because it's some of the few models that people are interested in buying from those brands. Try asking for literally ANY Rolex model.. Omega, Tudor, whatever BS brands, you can walk into a store today and walk out with 20 of their models if you wanted.

[@redbeam9212]

I inherited my great grandfather's Rolex which started a love of watches. I have a pretty decent collection of Omegas and Longines, but the treatment I've gotten at ADs has turned me off of Rolex. It's a brand for old men and Instagram celebrities. It has however been a great opportunity to discover other brands and watchmakers.

[@WestCoastAce27]

That salesperson has never experienced a really prolonged down economy. Assuming he doesn’t lose his job, he’s going to be making a lot of calls.

[@texans991]

I have unsubscribed from this channel after doing some research on T&H business practices. I encourage others to look into Christian’s reputation out there.

[@Snapcracklepop541]

Rolex sucks now. No watch should be impossible to buy unless somethings wrong with them.

[@MrChippinator]

You guys are so honest about all this stuff. The part about being at “jerk off” is the highlight of my day!

[@alexprime9984]

I've bought 4 rolexes( 2 subs and 2 GMT's) and one Tudor (black bay 58) from my AD in NY. Never bought one piece of jewelry.

[@mikej5959]

Why not just buy grey market? Why spend 120 in other undesirable watches when you can get a Sub easily for 10-15.

[@bobbycalifornia7077]

That Rolex wait list spending game works so well it’s spreading to other brands. Went to a Watches of Switzerland Omega boutique and was told that my purchase history would be checked and the corporation would decide whether I qualify for the 60th anniversary Bond SMP. Go figure.

[@zaco-km3su]

It's a limited edition. Rolex is doing it to the basic models. That's one big difference.

[@bobbycalifornia7077]

@@zaco-km3su To start. Wasn’t being done previously and with Omega producing desirable hits lately we’ll if/how it spreads further.

[@kevindossantos6282]

How can you promote nfts? It goes against every freedom and ideal of entrepreneurship !

[@GeordsYouTube]

Walked into AD wearing a Seiko, Walked out wearing an OP no waitlist no BS.. things must of been different back in 2019

[@MattyVice]

They were

[@WestCoastAce27]

Hope you enjoy the OP, but it doesn’t garner nearly the demand that Subs, GMTs, Daytonas do.

[@alexlilano1931]

I literally did that to get the Omega AT. I was wearing a Seiko Turtle.

[@nomansland120]

must *have

[@Will-kl5ri]

I bet this market returns in the next two years - the economy is coming down.

[@berlinwatchguy818]

Unbelievably in Bucherer, at least in Germany, Rolex don't have waitlists anymore, they have what is called WISH LISTS! INCREDIBLE attitude. I have a £12,000 voucher there I got by selling them a Deepsea i didn't want anymore and may never use on a Rolex.

[@diavalus]

It is unbelievable so many people get up in this crap and still want their watches. This is so similar to the Dutch tulip story.

[@sujeevan97]

this has to be my favourite youtube video of all time. Came for the watches, stayed for the life lessons and leaving with a hate for rolex

[@bluecrab78]

I got the engagement ring and a diamond "separately" from a jeweler not affiliated with a store, got it made just for me to my specs (even got to critique and modify the mold CAD file) and got a good valuation compared to if I bought it "off the rack". Hoping to buy a rolex or Omega on my next overseas deployment. Don't want to play these AD games. My friend was shocked when we went into a dealer and I told him that if he had cash on hand, he wasn't buying the Sub in the case.

[@FireBlade57]

..it's no different overseas...

[@OuijTube]

A Rolex is a great $5,000 watch that for some reason you have to spend $100,000 to buy

[@jhatgotagat300]

11:50 ish… People are like that everywhere Christian. In rural America it’s how much land you own and what toys you have to play with on that land be ur guns, bikes, cars, 4wheelers. You can’t tell me taking that g wagon off road where it belongs would be fun New York boys lol. It’s still a part of our culture in America. We are consumers if anything it’s worse the further you get out of city’s… I mean who do you know is dropping millions on a self ran business and doubling the investment yearly… that’s called farming….. iv seen farms with 15 car bat caves underground. Along with some of the absolutely wildest watches. I think people really forget there is a world outside of the bubble that is there own life. I do my self I’m not hating just trying to paint a picture.. the region doesn’t make the men and woman that live on it. If that made sense than LA would be either crack heads or A list celebrities and we all know that’s not the case.

[@Brew2point0]

Getting maximum value in a ring: 1) Travel to a small, mom-and-pop, rural dealer where the sign has the jeweler’s name on it to 2) build your own engagement ring using blank metal arrangement from a jeweler catalog and loose stones you’ve ordered online including 3) a center/solitaire diamond just below the whole carat mark where prices jump disproportionately and with 4) a SI2 grade stone with inclusions visible only under loupe. By that method, my wife's ring with a 0.97 carat center stone (assembled 2010 in rural Arkansas) looks like $20k but cost $3995 and a few weeks to gather/assemble. Gets constant compliments. Looks like flakes of pepper under a 10x loupe but literally no one but the jeweler and I know. But most importantly, find a fiancée and social circle that aren’t materialistic. Many of our friends have drastically smaller rings and nobody cares any less about each other. I had fun making something completely unique for my wife but she would be happy with anything.

[@value4363]

Damn, great tip tbh!! thanks

[@memonion4515]

Considering that most humans are status driven they want to buy Rolex not even because it's the best but because it's one of the most recognizable status symbols thanks to Rolex's decades of marketing. Rolex is no longer an enthusiast brand. It's show-off brand to let people know you've got several extra grands in your pocket. Most Rolex owners I've met know nothing about their watches while guys with SKXs can talk about them for an hour.

[@drakechandler7114]

Why doesn’t anyone complain about not being able to get a Patek or an AP? Always hating on Rolex.

[@jacstoneu]

Its not worth playing the AD game. Its cheaper to buy it from the Grey Market

[@samuelburton5576]

I don't understand why people think Rolex should flood their market with watches! They want the good old days. Go buy AN Omega or GS. But you will never be satisfied and continue to come on here and whine and complain

[@samuelburton5576]

I don't understand the hate on Rolex. RM, AP, And PP are harder to get. Much harder! Why hate Rolex for playing the game! Because they produce more watches? No excuse, BS on this video and whiners in the comment section!

[@josephzamorajr]

The way Christian says “blue chip” would make Jordan Belfort proud

[@BFlood4471]

I was reading a book on cocaine addiction the other day After the first few lines I was hooked.

[@MrPinkWhiteBlack]

I live in NYC and just had this experience. I go into a big AD and ask if there have a Tudor Black Bay Chrono Reverse Panda. They say no. I ask them to please give me a call when they do and leave my card. Two weeks later some sales guy gives me a call and asks me to come to another AD, he has the Chrono for me. I go over there and see the latest Rolex Sea Dweller 43mm as an exhibition piece. I look at it and love it better than the Chronograph (I'm comparing two big, black, red-lined divers from the Rolex/Tudor company). I ask how long it will take to get the Sea Dweller instead. They say two month. I say, okay then I'll take that one. After two month they call me to let me know they have the watch. Now I am traveling unfortunately and can't come in and the sales guy keeps following up (chasing me) to get the watch. I never bought any watch or any jewelry at either of the stores ever. So what is exactly the problem??? Seams to me some sales people are just dicks that love to treat people badly because it makes then feel superior. Pathetic really. My experience with Rolex/Tudor was nothing but courteous, polite, accommodating, reliable and prompt and they did NOT know me at all in any way and I did not put any money down... Go figure.

[@fire_watch7735]

C’mon, a lot of luxury goods are only allocated to select customers, that’s the way life is… I’m not sure why we complain about it. Ferrari, Hermes, Richard Mille, etc. Rolex is no different.

[@mackenzestewart4672]

I have friends who have spent 100k plus and still haven't been offered the watch they want. You don't have to play the games, I shopped around AD's in my area and was able to get a rootbeer GMT from a AD after waiting a month after requesting it

[@watchofwallstreet935]

My AD told me I’d have to have 200,000 in sales history before a Daytona, I spent lil over 10k before getting a sub, was at about 60k before I got my Pepsi gmt, best way to get something is to buy jewelry that’s where these AD make their money, my AD two weeks ago told me they still have coral and yellow OPs in the vault and haven’t gotten approval to sell them

[@cohan.forcer]

Great chemistry between you two, great channel atm.

[@bbrebozo6417]

The purpose of having a Rolex ADship for a jeweler is to reduce the amount of discounting they need to do to get rid of the high margin diamonds jewelry though bundling. Christian asking the “how stupid are you” question is right to the point. It illustrates the futility of building a relationship with a jeweler that has that 5 point coronet logo on the wall.

[@OPP841]

To be honest I don't find any reason why AD should sell to an ordinary walk in customer since they can just sell to Grey that way more profit no matter what model. Operating an AD is about making profits selling to grey more profit than to walk in customers. I just don't find any reason why AD should sell to ordinary folks like us.

[@stevelangsdorf7307]

Christian, two things, I'm sure you've done your chores ( fed the chicken's, slopped the hogs) so you can remove the field jacket. 2. Apparently you have some money 💵 we don't need to hear about it every show. Have a great day Michael 😄

[@jakejohnson6120]

Totally. Theo thinks he’s better than you.

[@TennesseeHoney12]

Yep, 100%, all Rolex’s are gifts to the customers with consistent spend history.

[@janezpetergrom4731]

if you are proclaiming yourself as a "watch person" but do not appreciate the history of Zenith than you just don't get it... change passion

[@evano8312]

Who didn’t

[@td6588]

But why would you spent all that money in AD ? Instead buy grey fot the fraction of that money..

[@thenameiwantedwastaken]

Middle class guy from Australia here. I spent just under a months wages for an engagement ring, and I had it custom made by a local jeweller. I’m not dropping 4-5 figures on something a jeweller has 3 more of stashed in a safe

[@kpkost]

My vision was like most: I wanted to own a Rolex so bad when I was younger. The prestige and name had its effect on me as it does so many people. 2022 I had a breakout year for my job. I started looking around for my first Luxury watch. After even a little bit of learning about Rolex basically never being innovative and only banking on reputation, I went with a White Birch from Grand Seiko. Since then, I’ve been planning my next watch. Never at one point have I even looked Rolex’s way. Not even for a minute. Rolex better hope their name and prestige continues to carry them, cause they’ve turned off this new Watch enthusiast permanently and I’m sure I’m not the only one

[@ajmarion]

Similar story here, I was between GS and Tudor - both great choices. I went with the BB58, but will certainly buy a GS Shunbun in the future 🤤 I would have loved to purchase an explorer or DJ or something, but had 0 interest in playing the game.

[@daveveloz]

I completely feel the same

[@jethrojacinto2798]

Good for you and honestly I hope more watch enthusiasts, especially new ones that are just starting their careers look elsewhere with their new hard-earned money because Rolex for sure dont fucking deserve them. Also congrats on the White Birch!

[@LanguagesWithAndrew]

"After even a little bit of learning about Rolex basically never being innovative and only banking on reputation, I went with a White Birch from Grand Seiko." *Excellent* choice. I'm in the market now (at that $5-15k price range) and am looking at Grand Seiko, Omega, and JLC - if I could get a Rolex at MSRP tomorrow, I'd still choose one of those other three brands.

[@daveveloz]

@@LanguagesWithAndrew good to know

[@stephenhayes3788]

I got my GMT Batman in 3 months from an AD. I didn’t think it was an unreasonable amount of time. I guess mileage varies.

[@TheRacerRich]

Regular person here. Gold band ring, wedding was dinner and drinks for 20 people. God bless my wife.

[@jeremypatin2044]

I literally just had this same experience at my local Rolex AD. Went in a few days before Christmas; had some time to burn. The case was full of pieces; subs, ops, djs, they even had a daytona. Next to every watch was a small sign that read exhibition only. The saleswoman was extremely accommodating and let me try on a few pieces. I mentioned the disclaimer and asked how I might go about buying the silver dialed op that I had on my wrist. She then explained to me that I could put my name on a list and that they would call me if and when they got one in. I asked about how long that typically took, 6 mos a year maybe depending on the piece, but sometimes much faster. She asked if I would like to be on the list, I politely declined. But it doesn’t cost you anything to put your name on it she told me. Absolutely ridiculous…. I would have gladly purchased the watch that day. Rolex has no shame in they way they treat their customers or potential ones👎

[@tylerbetthauser7647]

Same thing here....I'll wait til the grey market tanks and purchase one out of spite in grey market.

[@naycnay]

I was in my local AD dropping off my vintage sub for some much-needed work. They happened to have a platinum Daytona. Gladly let me fondle it, but I didn't even remotely ask. It's not for sale, especially not to me! :D If Rolex would sell me a Pepsi, even if I had to wait a while in a list, I'd buy one. Get me on that list. But I'm not playing games.

[@jaime4022]

@@tylerbetthauser7647 "out of spite." I think I'll follow your lead

[@serz1885]

9:35 so i dont understand how it works they producing 10000000 million watches a year and you can buy it how it works wtf?

[@Georgy_47]

An engagement ring can be a way for dealers to make money cause they use the emotional side of the purchase and mark up so much the diamond. I went to Belgium and got triple the size of the diamond for the price of one in Canada and did my own ring design in 3d cad and still haven’t reached the price of 1 ring. Going to ad for a Rolex and waiting is dumb just get a Rolex on the grey market and use as an investment watch the market now is down u have a chance they will surge again up sell it and get another one. Rolex is just investing and flipping other brands are for daily wear and enjoying sad but true

[@rjptoronto]

Don’t blame Rolex for the demand. Up to 2017 you could walk in to an AD and buy a Daytona. But in the last 5 years young flippers came into the market and younger people wanted to flex on their wrist. This drove up the demand and also created the gaming for both consumer and ADs.

[@bostoncollector]

Rolex is no different from all the higher end brands. In fact Rolex is much easier accessibility but the reality is the lower the price the higher the list. If anyone is annoyed by taking 10k to Rolex and can’t get a submariner try taking 100k to Patek and getting told you can’t get an aquanaut until you spend 150k Perspective is everything.

[@pinkbono]

Guys, I've spent 400€ on my wedding rings back in time, I was 28yo and it was a lot of money. Now I'm 46 and life is finally becoming less hard on me so I'm able to buy luxuous watches and I should be more reasonable on the topic, but still, if I had to buy another pair of wedding rings today so I would never pay more than 1000€, because it's not and it's never been about any value but about feelings, it's symbolic, it's a bond between two lovers dedicating their lifes one to the other and love is, between others things, about humility, certainly not about showing off. Then, I would not hesitate to offer a luxuous watch to my wife if she wished one, but she is not, so far.

[@ajtullo174]

The list is totally fake...I went in a week before Christmas to an AD and they told me it would take a year to get an Explorer II...fast forward to yesterday and I get a call that the Explorer is in and they put it to the side with my name no it. Hmmmmm

[@marcosanthernandez]

Rolex’s are jewelry pretending to be tools. They ride off the legacy of achievements they fulfilled when their watches were today’s equivalent of 2k - 3k bucks. A sum of money that a hardworking man can save up for. Now you get them for 10k. I’m not sure about you guys but if I were doing some crazy athletic outdoor shit I wouldn’t bring a 10K watch. I wouldn’t bring a 10K watch to an interesting country that isn’t super safe either.

[@jhatgotagat300]

I genuinely told my girl I’m going into the Rolex ad alone didn’t get single nice word said to me. Then pronounce Jager lecoultre like “yagur la coùlt ra” and they kinda looked at me like oh he know and I know he knowwsssss. Then the next year I go in with my girl… we get the full treatment… at then end as my girl friend is buying a ring for her mom and I got my self oris I’d wanted for a while I asked if they where under new management recently iv never been offered to try anything on or really even talked too. My familys Rolex ad across town enjoyed hearing the only other Rolex ad in a more populated area is embracing the mess that is Rolex rn. I stop in the shitty one from time to time to see if anything has changed. Sometimes you get the older professional walk in straight to the “Rolex room” to pull the sa off to the side and ask about the back room like it’s 2015 and they have a full gold Daytona back there waiting for mister c level to stroll in

[@seattlegrrlie]

Correct, when I look down at my Rolex, I know that I've made it

[@verynormalman]

This is your best video ever. Common sense about engagement rings and weddings. Consumerism will push us into our graves prematurely. Everyone needs to get a better, more fulfilling life, with of course only 5 watches. ;-) THANKS FOR THE CONTENT.

[@omar10213245]

I'm guessing the AD with the crazy marked-up prices was....Govberg?? Torneau?

[@matthewgurlitz3514]

You guys are so on point here. Spend 120k to get your 10k watch? 🤔 I love Rolex, but that paradigm is what I would call (it's my own invented word) "stupidness." Simply freaking stupidness.

[@IornDog91]

Really strange i had a very rare(by the looks of it) positive experince at my ad. Came in no idea about the waitlist no purchase history came in wearing my granddads old watch and said I'd like to get a new sub, dealer told me it'll be 6 months maybe. I said yeah sure no rush, no joke 4 weeks later i get a call saying it's here if you have the cash, came in the next day and walked out with my one and only watch. In hindsite i keep thinking how did that happen? I had a good conversation with the guy about how much i love the history of Rolex and the reason i want it, i thought maybe someone else pulled out and they're calling my bluff if this 25 year old kid will buy it? Still not sure...

[@zaco-km3su]

Well, it's time to actually admit it. Rolex is manipulating the market. For what they offer they are massively overpriced. Omega offers the same quality at a lower price. Omega is not the only one though. Apparently people don't know how Rolex started. They initially made watches for professionals. Rolex Submariner for divers, Rolex Milgauss for electricians, computer scientists, electronics engineers or anyone that worked with electric and electronic equipment, Rolex GMT for pilots, Rolex Explorer for mountaineers, Rolex Explorer 2 for speleologists (scientists that study caves). Rolex Air-King was another watch made for pilots. Like others posted here, Rolex is not a luxury watch. It will never be. It's not worth it.

[@eco8gator]

Here is the truth folks. It's not Rolex...it's your AD telling you that are complaining they don't want or need your $$. They have found enough whales that buy way more that also want a Rolex toy to sell to. There are 2 ways to get a Steel Stunner...spend serious coin or get in good with the owner/managers. I used to just talk to the head sales guy (such a nice guy) at an AD and he would regularly bring me out a steel stunner to buy if I wanted. I am kicking myself for not getting the Seadweller😢. Btw...in my opinion you only really need one modern Rolex in a collection. They all feel the same.

[@Laguna2013]

how do the ADs support the salaries of so many employees if they have so little to sell?

[@northernroamer4202]

Was at Dubai Airport in 2015. They had two date subs and a hulk for sale there and then. Bought one of the subs… the salesman tried to force the hulk on me for an extra £600.. I declined 😢 thought I’d go with the classic sub. Haunts me to this day!

[@0pt1tr0nD27]

I have no interest in Rolex. The only several thousand dollar watch I’m gonna buy is the grand Seiko sbgh 311. Im only gonna get it when I get married. Because the only reason I’d buy something that expensive, is because it would have some sentimental value.

[@lamarfandango1623]

Rolex is unwilling to stop its ADs from fundamentally changing the meaning of Rolex from a symbol of accomplishment and stature to a symbol of flippers and 20 year old modded BMWs. Rolex will struggle to regain its image after this current wave of demand recedes. Rolex has very few options since it doesn't have the power of a large portfolio. Still, I wonder if Rolex has even set up a system to track the % of an AD's inventory that ends up gray within 3, 6 or 12 months, or what % of a particular model did an AD sell to a single buyer. If an AD sells an Explorer to a person who resells it, that's life. If an AD sells 5 Explorers to a person, of course those are going gray. In this case, Rolex's system lets its ADs piss off 5 people to make one (the reseller) happy, and the 5 who buy from the reseller get a 1/2 baked experience. When the economy shifts, all 6 people (and maybe a few of the gray purchasers) are gone. You can't stop somebody from reselling their watch. But you can stop the direct-to-gray pipeline.

[@Cd81234]

I'm not sure why there is all this hate for Rolex. In many AD's around the world Rolex is very accessible. I'm from Canada where picking up a piece is notoriously difficult and I've picked up several pieces without much spend. The problem is people nowadays have no patience and want everything immediately with no wait. Rolex is a luxury product and should be difficult to get. Is there all this hate for Ferrari, Porsche, Hermes, AP, PP?..

[@TheOriginalStevenH]

I had suspicions, but this is totally unacceptable with Rolex. The people that do this crap is garbage elitist… if I have the money for one I’m going to buy one. I don’t want to buy 80-100k of crap just to get a $10k watch. Despicable.

[@PanditaP]

I love that they talk all this shit about Rolex yet they both own them 😜 hehe. It’s all love 🤙🏽.

[@Joyhappyfree]

Hey my dudes, when’s the next podcast going online on Apple? Been missing them. Cheers from Tel Aviv 🍻

[@yasinnabi]

Success only needs hard work and consistancy, there is no other formula, i have experienced my self as a small business owner. BTW I enjoyed watching your video. a fellow creator.

[@MrCoolCats]

I've never understood, why people are happy to pay for stuff they don't want to potentially buy a Rolex at retail. Why don't you just go grey market in which case, instead of buying stuff you don't want or need and are being forced to buy, by an AD?

[@Phsymphonic06]

Had a bad experience with Rolex in Dubai, but the ADs here in Hawaii are awesome. Based on my conversation with the AD's here, they are very meticulous with customers, and if you are genuinely a cool person with a decent background, you have an awesome chance of getting almost any watch you want (from experience). For them relationships are important here, but I think that's the culture here in Hawaii.

[@stevenc9207]

Everyone keeps bashing Rolex, but Rolex is simply making the same amount of product they always have. It's US, the consumers who have gone bonkers and pushed demand to places it's never been! How is that rolex's fault?

[@jobdijks1545]

A lot of people here that talk shit about Rolex. Why???if you dont like it skip,the video. A million watches production a year.but demand maybe 8million worldwide. And many people buy grey because they want one.thats why grey market was ridicolous. I for one like the brand a lot. And resale value was always better than other brands. But if you want a omega ore a GS etc. Look for those videos. Buy what you like and wear it.

[@Jiii73636]

The thing that you have to realize is when you look at the possibility of spending $80,000 on “watches, I don’t want” in order to get a Daytona allocation. You’re looking at it all wrong. Many of the people who are offered a Daytona routinely buy less desirable Rolex models as gifts for clients or family. If you look at it from this perspective, it’s not difficult to reach a high spend with a luxury brand such as Rolex or Hermes if you were gifting these items. also, from an authorized dealer standpoint a client who is buying 5+ watches per year should get some preferential treatment when it comes to very small/rare allocations from a brand. How can you as a single watch purchaser stand out in comparison to a high value client. in the world of luxury goods/exotic cars, it’s not enough just to have the money to pay the purchase price you have to have relationships, and looked at as a respected/valued client.

[@Jiii73636]

Think of the Daytona like a Birkin bag from Hermes. It’s a nice thank you purchase for being loyal to the brand.

[@TZOID08]

Art Auctions and Watch - Luxury Auctions are a huge venue for Money Laundering so "Value" of anything is all over the place. Similar to what Crypto windfall for some makes Real money spend like Monopoly money.

[@RM-ue3bp]

It’s purchased history or purchased something not Rolex from them, you need to spend thousands, a lot before you get your desired watch, specially the sports watches or your a best friend of the owner or relative that’s it, NO OTHER WAY!