Rolex Watch Shopping Zurich Switzerland Bucherer Beyer &Watch Museum Daytona Submariner GMT Master?

[@NicholasSadlier]

It is hard to understand the point of a store that has nothing for sale and won't take orders. Enjoy your trip and better luck at the next stop.

[@ЖИЗНЬВЛЮКСЕ]

we need to cancel rolex for fake wait lists

[@dd-dd2co]

@@ЖИЗНЬВЛЮКСЕ I support cancel culture when it comes to this Rolex BS.

[@fitzpatrickeamo]

I regularly travel to Zürich every 2/3 months and have done so for in excess of 25 years. I have regularly called into the Bucherer stores that you visited and they say that only local residents can purchase Rolex pieces, going so far as the request proof of residency etc. Incidentially, just across on the other side of the street from the first Bucherer Rolex store, Tudor have opened a new boutique and virtually all timepieces are available. It is amazing how in the second Bucherer store you were in have no issue selling pre-owned pieces, with a hefty premium. Further up on that street you have IWC, Omega amongst others and most pieces are available to purchase.

[@cheero57]

I really can’t stand Rolex on how they do business…..here you can look at them but you can’t buy them…..rediculous

[@user-pe1wu4vi5w]

we (who wants to spend thousands of dollars)do business to them. They do have tons of stock

[@cheero57]

@@user-pe1wu4vi5w its fine,i bought an omega anyway…..

[@vunguyenchannel]

Exactly, I hate it but I still buy and own a Rolex because I think it’s genius. The way they can control and manipulate supply and demand makes their watches much more desirable. After all, it’s a luxury product and true luxury need to be exclusive.

[@duffydon1741]

Because we let them bully us with our money, they are smart, they make you feel special whilst in the process bullying you with your hard earned money, stuff them!!!

[@cheero57]

@@duffydon1741 i bought an omega….

[@Paka1983]

"The store people were quite keen on selling me the piece." - Yep, they really tried to rip you a new one.

[@adamloo85]

Pricing a watch that high with service hands is a crime. With vintage, having original parts is the core of its value.

[@DA-ju3iv]

Rolex ADs here in Zurich prioritize locals. Their first question when you get in the store is if you live in Switzerland. There is nothing you will not find in Dubai actually. Beyer museum is awesome and I would recommend to visit Schaffhausen and the IWC museum. Try reaching out to Moser to see if you can visit their Museum too. There’s an AP house in Zurich in case you can get an appointment, I had a great experience there. Enjoy

[@teteatale]

Not really, we have a few watches on waitlist. One was cancelled as it was discontinued. The other two in waiting since 10 months. So, don’t know why it’s happening to loyal customers. Don’t feel bad and they are not prioritising locals. Cheers!

[@GRAFHC]

I'm actually rather surprised Rolex is still acting this way, it isn't 2022 anymore. Rolex just isn't in the demand it was a few years ago. The secondary market has taken a significant beating.

[@derosa1989]

rolex is still selling all the watches they make, over 1.2 million per year. the only thing that has changed in the last year or so is how much people will pay over msrp on the gray market. Which is a good thing.

[@waleed8530]

@@derosa1989 I checked with the local Rolex AD for the GMT Steel, seems like they don't want to sell and don't take future orders. salesperson in another AD told me you gotta build a relationship, how can i build one if i cant get the watch i want. he answered by purchasing these watches, points at nobody wants dusty setting watches and maybe you'll get the watch you want. bad business practice Afterall.

[@utubz007]

@@derosa1989 I bought a very nice Steinhart and I love it. Rolex reputation will only suffer now.

[@nickbrooker1411]

love your videos, but rolex seriously piss me off! i gave up on them (waste of time) years ago!! So many brands of equal quality who treat prospective customers so much better!

[@stevecox6286]

I completely agree. I refuse to join in with the charade

[@SinnMaster]

Same. I wrote Rolex off years ago and never looked back. Why waste your time? Life is too short for those games.

[@charismaticares3382]

Same here even me and my friends gave up on Rolex we bought new Seamaster instead

[@Islandchris242]

The vintage sub has replaced hands the patina on the hour markers looks great, but the white hands ruin the watch

[@TheDubaiExpat]

Agree 👍

[@sc1]

It sounds like Rolex is telling all the ADs and Boutiques to sell to local residents only. I suspect a local would have an easier time getting the Rolex of their choice. Your Panerai looks great with a suit. Smart choice to take as an only watch on your trip. Just tidy up the fit slightly: shorten the white shirt sleeves (or just move the buttons to make the cuffs tighter) [only 1/4 inch of shirt sleeve should show], take in the jacket waist slightly, and add a white pocket square! BTW, Zurich does not seem too expensive for hotel and food. NYC can be very expensive.

[@pipolebnene]

I live in zürich and no it is not easy

[@sergiofacchinetti2954]

@@pipolebnene was about to say, tried at many stores and managed to get one steel watch, that I didn't even want.

[@darenweeks273]

I live in St. Gallen and can't get shit from Bucherer

[@BunnyWatson-k1w]

Submariner at 20:32. Anything removed from the original Rolex watch may lower the price. Collectors most often want the original parts even if the original color has faded. Having said that, if you are not reselling the watch enjoy your purchase. A watch from 1983 is a different era in Rolex history.

[@TimeFlys000]

Taking a coffee ☕️

[@nr1416]

You can source proper hands for the vintage Sub, not a big deal. A Tritium hamd set can be bought for $600 or so.

[@SinnMaster]

Lots of fake parts out there. It’s a minefield.

[@AndreaDoesYoga]

Loved the watch shopping tour in Zurich, keep it up! ☺️

[@nina_abroad7710]

Great episode! Love the museum tour.

[@Tounsi_Official]

Curious what was the Smal gift that she gave you ? 😊

[@abhaig]

Awesome video! One of the best. Living vicariously through and great shout out to SC whom I also follow. I was able to get a 2tone Datejust for my dad at Bucherer 2 years ago as a walk-in. Times change. Being offered a rose gold GMT is still amazing!

[@zockerplay3314]

Beyer is just legendary. The best store in my opinion!

[@VarunKumar-ih3hi]

Can you please suggest - where to get perpetual 41 (Any Model) from official Rolex Store....please help !!

[@TheDubaiExpat]

pretty impossible right now

[@joshua6244]

If you buy a Rolex, a large chunk of the purchase price goes to pay for expensive shops employing staff, but deliberately selling very few watches.

[@BunnyWatson-k1w]

AP at 21:27. You will need an appointment and you had better be wearing an AP watch. For the newish collectors boutiques will offer you a limited set of watches. Buy the less desired model. You get on a list for AP boutiques and eventually will get the call you're waiting for. That hard to find model will be yours if patient. They are closing AD stores so soon you'll be out of luck going that route.

[@ANDRE_675]

5:20 I got that exact watch for my mother at an AD in Dubai, the wait time was 2 months, so I am sure if you put down your name you can get it fairly quickly.

[@riktrink]

Alles über Rolex ist schon lächerlich

[@ЖИЗНЬВЛЮКСЕ]

first watch at everest was not rolex

[@Rolexriderusa]

Another superb video and commentary!!!

[@gundalfgunner]

it's very simple. Rolex/Bucherer only wants to supply the local market. You choose a dealer you trust and remain a customer there. If you want a Rolex, you configure it with your salesperson and it is put on the "wish list". This prevents the promotion of the grey market (the watches may only be sold to third parties after the 5-year warranty has expired). yes, there is a black list. I have never waited longer than 6 months for my watches. buy the watches from your hometown. Another reason is that global demand is very high and all countries have to be supplied. A new factory is being built for 8 billion CHF, then there should be no more bottlenecks. 👍🏻

[@BunnyWatson-k1w]

The Panerai with green strap looks fantastic.

[@scollyutube]

I live in a tourist resort town and the shop here only sells Rolexs to locals too.

[@stevemoreno6241]

Switzerland is a terrible place to buy a watch. High prices and very low VAT refund rate. Better off to cross the border to Germany to buy it. The prices are better and you get a 19% VAT refund.

[@MamboLui]

What's the likelihood of getting a rolex in Germany?

[@lararob4673]

Agree, paradoxically is a really bad place to get a watch.

[@stevemoreno6241]

​@@MamboLui from an AD, probably the same. But if you buy from a secondary or grey market dealer, you'll save that 19% compared to buying the same watch in the U.S.

[@Citricut2]

​@@stevemoreno6241can you recommend one such dealer on the Waldshut/Singen/Konstanz area? Tired of getting the looks at Bucherer and I'm a Zürich resident!

[@MamboLui]

I've been able to find 41mm steel and yellow gold datejusts at my local AD in N TX

[@vicentvanmole]

thanks for very interesting shopping view ..My next planned trip ..

[@dogukansusun7355]

For 16.5 cm wrist dj36 or dj41?

[@Dragon-bm7tf]

DJ 36 👑

[@wwllmcheng]

I managed to get one through a fren who is a regular customer. My fren told m to wait outside the shop while he goes in to get it. Is this approach right or wrong???

[@MamboLui]

I think you and your friend played the game well

[@relaxandlivelife7093]

It’s very pleasant to watch your videos

[@shonen84]

I was in Zurich a couple of months ago. My cousins live there, so they indulged me in my search for a MoonSwatch! I also window shopped at Bucherer and Omega but this wasn’t the focus of my mission. The Swatch store was very cool and they blankly told me which ones they had. They also showed the Blancpain Fifty Fathoms collab, which I really liked as well, actually. I got a lovely Pluto MoonSwatch and went home with my cousins, happy about a fun day in Zurich.

[@dedu]

Habe als neukunde bei Beyer nach ca. 3-4 Monaten Wartezeit eine Rootbeer erhaten. Komme selber auch nicht aus Zürich. Wohne ca. 1 5h entfernt. Top Experience danke @Beyer. Ich trage die Uhr mit freude ;)

[@swissnikk8412]

Welcome to Zürich! Turbinenbräu ahoy! As a native, it’s interesting to see Zürich through the lens of a tourist.

[@ckjl7704]

Actually i bought a steel 41DJ white dial with roman index in Interlaken Bucherer last week (mid June 2024).

[@BaMb1N079]

Technically, it is illegal in Switzerland, to have articles in the windows without prices......But it seems like they make exceptions for high end watch stores :-)

[@markzijnrules]

The Daytona at 16:43 in NOT a Paul Newman.

[@BunnyWatson-k1w]

Beyer has a nice collection of vintage Rolex watches on the upper floor.

[@Mister.Unknown]

18:15 Picture entering an Apple Store and the girl at the door greets you with "Good afternoon, no Apple product in this store are for sale. : ) "

[@JosephHenryGorman]

You’ve saved me thousands showing me around thank you. Also, you’ve saved yourself thousands not buying the Frankenstein submariner - unfortunately the original bezel wasn’t attached along with the hands you mentioned.

[@Zurich_for_Beginners]

Some one I know bought a oyster perpetual at Bucherer. She was but on the wait list and one and half year later she was aloud to give her money to Bucherer and receive her Rolex

[@chrisc8073]

what the heck? @ 7:01. lol

[@TheDubaiExpat]

just noticed 😂

[@woozertoo]

@@TheDubaiExpatyou spotted the elusive “Where’s Waldo” of Zurich.

[@TheDubaiExpat]

@@woozertoo 🤣🤣🤣

[@Island606]

Loving the context, cool video 👌🏻

[@irdvo4012]

Great video, thank you

[@jenturque]

AD's are pushing hard still. Rolex watch market is pretty dead now.

[@ol6309]

The Rolex grey market might be dead, but at AD’s it is still robust

[@1983YK]

They want to keep the hype alive and playing hard to get... I've seen many explorers and date justs for the grabs the pas months.. #thoughtimes

[@MarioMattes-u6i]

Thank you for the Video, the watch Museum is great

[@sb_dvb960]

I think it’s time to rename ROLEX to FEO (for exhibition only) this is sarcasm Tell me, do you think you can buy H. Moser & Cie Pioner Green?

[@riktrink]

or Rolex gallery not Rolex store

[@Imzaluzzulazmi]

My experience to buy watch in Zurich was to buy Swatch.

[@daniell2217]

Niko - how would you compare the 1908 to a PP 6119?

[@paulwilcock9815]

I was in that Bucherer store (visiting from the UK) in April & was offered new watches. They were all PM’s though & I dislike full PM watches for various aesthetic reasons, or were on an Oysterflex which I’m also not a fan of.

[@ricardo-c4l7l]

Hi, I suggest you travel to Osaka for the best range of second hand Rolexes. Courteous, helpful staff and given the Yen's weakness you will not be disappointed.

[@mrwexoe]

When do we gonna see any videos about your Patek purchase? 😊

[@shoa8929]

Hi, another great video. I'm hearing that situation in Dubai (malls) is even worse? I've been told they're not taking or putting you on lists anymore. They hardly have anything to sell, and if anything, mostly gold ladies models. Is that true? Thanks in advance!

[@muhammetozbek529]

İ dont have much of a collection. Just a gmt master 2 "batman" passed down from my father. But rolex employees seriously make me want to sell the watch. İ put my name for a watch and its almost 3 years now. No calls nothing, when i visited the ad and talk to the same guy. He looks at my face and lies to me saying its only been 1 year. At the same time i know they sell to flippers and the same guy got laid off because he took money from a customer for a specific model. From the owners of ad's to the workers they are all in it.

[@theprivatecollectors]

Unfortunately, there’s absolutely no point to come to Zurich for watch shopping. Beyer won’t let you in the store (if the gatekeeper is not in the mood) and Bucherer couldn’t care less who you are or what you want. Smaller ADs are more cooperative but they don’t get a lot of watches. In sum, the same as everywhere else.

[@JB-loves-watches]

This was fun

[@ceejaydeesoozaa]

better to go for a 4 digit ref sub if ur going for vintage

[@10tpm]

Walked in recently in Panerai Store in Munich. Very cool atmosphere, every watch was available. No bullshitting, no offering other watches I have to buy first in order to put me onto the waiting list which doesn’t exist at panerai. Great experience, great watches. Im not sure whether Rolex can keep up with their strange strategy of doing business. It’s not sustainable. At the end of the day you have to make profit otherwise your dead.

[@mazo7846]

Because nobody cares about Panerai. At least not in Switzerland.

[@S2kBPRIME]

Great vid! My wife and I will be in Zurich next month for our anniversary. Unfortunate to see that the Rolex ADs are closed for tourist business. Oh well, will try it out, hoping for better luck.

[@Dr.Sheffield]

Thanks

[@HumanAction1]

The funniest thing about Rolex AD's are that their base salary is allegedly around $50k +commission (in the US). So maybe $120k/yr? School principals make more.

[@jeffnesbitt1168]

That’s a lot of money for not selling anything and telling customers nothing is for sale!

[@nelsoncaraig3120]

I love your video, Im always watching your vlog.,,,

[@craigbrown6792]

Recently become addicted to these videos haha, admiring watches I'll never even be able to dream of, one day I hope to have an omega of my own

[@relaxandlivelife7093]

Could you please share your third party watch maker who did the authentication, I would like to use him to authenticate a watch that I want to purchase ? Thank you

[@jda7499]

Another great Video Niko. Looking fitter Buddy ❤, see ya soon , JD

[@ChandeepaFernando]

Watches are not for sale in order to create more demand so that the sales of the Rolex watches on it's unofficial Rolex stores would go up. It is stichting one end completely so that the other end thrives!! This way Rolex will be able to create the same demand continously throughout with any drops.

[@structurescience]

Excellent!

[@Maardinli]

G8 mate

[@jamierees9226]

Really enjoyed your travel blog and watch shopping experiences thank you ☺️

[@b_altmann]

Strange, the ladies' gold and two tone models should have been available. Anything with gold and diamonds tends to be available now

[@DonYang73]

Those preowned Rolexes are easily 25% higher than what i can get here in South East Asia.😅

[@victorreyes4739]

Same experience .they say they would rather sell it to their locals

[@saafan]

Really unique Vlog 🙏🤗

[@AnaareMere-l3q]

Daytona good price 🙂

[@saurabhsaxena2001]

Tissot Seastar❤❤❤❤😊

[@cfunk10]

NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!

[@tigertoothcsgo5766]

Nice vlog and lifestyle.

[@JA-mq9ti]

I love your Panerai!!!

[@y0kozuna]

I stay at the same hotel 3 month ago, no need to eat at the hotel there is plenty of cafe n restaurant around with much better value n taste 😊

[@unboxingminitoys-m4g]

I love rolex watched nice vedio new friend

[@aciel-tv]

that 16800 was overpriced by 3-4k usd (which u are effectively paying for the CPO program). plus the hands are service hands (although usually not a big deal, since the dial/case is usually the deal breaker in vintage pieces, dial constitutes majority of the price in vintage pieces anyways) i would still not buy into that, though. lol

[@BunnyWatson-k1w]

If you ever find watches with the Beyer name on the dial they are worth a lot.

[@AnthonyChan-tb3yz]

You don't need to go to those stores to buy a Rolex, there are so many stores in Hong Kong, Beverly hills or Dubai that will easily sell you the watch you want

[@michaelfierman3256]

“The lady was really nice to me”. Yeah sure. Absolutely ridiculous. I would have walked right out after that disgraceful treatment. They know you spend. It’s clear they enjoy playing games. Sad. But I loved the video and the travel vlog style Niko! ✌🏻 by the way..that clock museum was fascinating

[@Pedro285]

A facility that displays items, nothing for sale, historical chat. Think that’s a museum ..

[@harryvanderveen773]

If the store clerk would welcome me with "No Rolex watches are for sale and you can't order any either" I'd reply with "Thats ok, one can buy all of these watches easily today with no wait directly"

[@RamMohammadJosephKaur]

Which country are you from sir? I'm new subscriber.

[@sidneyt1016]

We as consumers are putting up with Rolex and the ADs that perpetuate this business model. We are in essence enabling the behavior and business practices. If we stop supporting these ADs, stop purchasing from gray market and consider other brands…we Ada consumers would send a strong message. Just think about it. You are begging and kissing the butts of ADs…pleading with them to let you spend your money.

[@hylimm]

Might as well close all the stores! They r catering to those that suck up to them only.

[@huybui5530]

Rolex GMT root beer solid gold for sale but you don’t buy 😢 at 5:50

[@waynemoore9951]

How dare you come in here and ask about a new Rolex, but we will sell you this 2nd hand used one that's overpriced. Outrageous behavior

[@bibaarivukovic6240]

Go in Austria with a boat Boden see Bregentz then Lindau Germany there you can buy everything

[@LDehaut]

Because they sell second hand, the new ones, they are afraid you'll flip them right away, they know you bought one earlier for 70K. You have to wait at least 1 year

[@pepipetrov7568]

You have the best job in the world man . The only one which is better is being an astronaut 😂

[@judesisilangilang4465]

Rolex is making you buy the CPO watches with a premium. Bonkers.

[@stevem863]

So funny. I say that all the time about my Panerai Radiomir 01385. The only other watch I have with great lume is my Black Bay Blue 39mm. Omega, Rolex, crap lume.

[@Chris-4i2]

What is going on with Rolex?

[@dd-dd2co]

Rolex still playing games.

[@FrankSchmidt-il1fu]

Ich kaufe nur noch beim Grauhändler denn Ich lebe jetzt. Ist wie bei einer schönen Frau. Ich spreche sie jetzt an und nicht in 3 Jahren 😊😊😊