Roll Cages Aren’t Safe 👀

We need to stop putting playground toys in 80hp street Miata's, ok? Let's talk about roll bars, cages, and why the term "show cage" just shouldn't be a thing in cars BUT HEY, let me know if you disagree below and of course, don't forget to subscribe here - bit.ly/3kXgWr0

[@AlexMartini.]

Roll bars aren't half cages and half cages aren't full. Be sure you're doing good research before installing some ebay part in your 800hp truck :p ✅Sub- bit.ly/3kXgWr0 🔥Discord - discord.gg/636wPJYTGW

[@100GTAGUY]

Ebay kits? I just found a wild triple bar bed/cab combo design on JEGs for my ranger! Which I do want to convert into a Baja/Dakar build for desert racing and hillclimbs. That being said, I'm not touching it with a 30ft pole since I can't find any user reviews on em lmao.

[@mclarenf1lm374]

Rollcages increase chasis rigidity, change the center of mass of the car and make the body structure more resistant in case of a crash

[@isaacserbin8763]

Dont forget, crumpling is part of making a car safe in a crash

[@somedudenameddes0121]

​@@isaacserbin8763 the cabin shouldn't crumple, and that's where the roll cage goes

[@isaacserbin8763]

@@somedudenameddes0121 it does crumple a little from side impacts

[@benja_324]

​@@isaacserbin8763 it shouldnt, thats why roll cages have protection on the sides

[@michelerjgross7339]

@@isaacserbin8763no no it shouldn’t, any I mean all sports cars like Ferrari and super cars of the sort, are purposely designed to keep the cabin area intact and in one piece NOT crumpled all other areas should disintegrate AWAY from the cabin (F1 tech dude) duh 🙄

[@Iron-Griffon]

Geo metro race cars need them, because the metro WILL warp and pop welds loose, especially if you have a swap. You NEED something for rigidity on older cheap cars.

[@jamesteel2913]

same thing with foxbodys the roofs like to collapse flat with the hood and spoiler

[@_Clem_H_Fandango_]

What kind of racing is done with 3 cyl. Geo Metros?? Backyard Redneck Demolition Derby I hope...

[@themanhimself3]

Geo metro and race car can't be used in the same sentence.

[@blepware]

@@themanhimself3 it's just a different class of racing.

[@QajjTube]

​@@themanhimself3 look up a metro's weight, go ahead.

[@Aznk1d]

My friend has an NA Miata asked me "bro Should I buy this RB wide body? or get this SSR's MK3?" I just looked at him... "Bro for that money... Get a full roll cage and a bucket seat with harness. Your Miata is a death trap compared to my s2k" we both just looked at each other and he just said 'aight... u right" lmao

[@airis1717]

you a good freind man telling him to do the right shit first instead of the useless shit first

[@illegalcumtrader56]

miatas are such powerhouses definitely need a roll cage

[@hanzgrueber145]

@@illegalcumtrader56 lmfao yeah he’s gonna need that cage when he spins out into a tire stack mid drift at 13mph

[@B0F]

that would literally make it more of a death trap, especially with that seat and harness. (no hans device & helmet) he could break his neck, or get a really bad head injury if you get rear ended

[@B0F]

btw miatas roll easily if you go off track into dirt/grass. people don't put roll bars and cages in them for driving on the street

[@jimpickens6632]

In Germany you need Tüv to drive a car streetlegal. and every single tuning part you install, especially safety relevant parts, need assessments to proof they are safe. the rules here are pretty strict. but with a testet rolecage and testet 4 or 5 point seat belts it can be legal to delete the Airbag and thats a big deal in Germany

[@freshofftheplane]

Here in the US it depends on the state but you can do whatever you want to do with your car. Your life, your choice, your responsibility mentality.

[@dusannestorovic5699]

At least you guys have a system that works and you can actually register your cars.. Where I live, car mods need to be assessed but there is no way to actually get the assessment done.. they made it impossible to mod cars on purpose

[@1987FX16]

​@@dusannestorovic5699 That's a scary thought, the government forcing everybody into their plans. Almost sounds like a dictatorship, everyone uptop benefits and the major population has to deal with it. I hope there is a review of the system that fixes the problems.

[@jooot_6850]

@@dusannestorovic5699 what’s stopping you from just. Not mentioning the mods

[@100GTAGUY]

Meanwhile here in the US my truck came standard from the factory with no airbags, doesn't have a roll cage or multipoint harness, the cab pillars themselves are measly as hell. Its a standard cab 93 Ford Ranger XLT for reference. My insurance is surprisingly even lower than I expected it to be considering it didn't have airbags, it's a similar year to my mom's old truck with air bags and I'm paying like $7 a month for the most basic PIP and property damage plan. Mom had a similar plan but with partial coverage for damages and was paying like $127 a month. Also since I'm in a state that only inspects out of state vehicles once to initially register them, we're pretty much free to do any modifications so long as they don't create excessive noise. That's about the only time you'll get pulled over and checked for illegal mods lol.

[@RustyChickn]

You should be wearing a HANS device too when racing

[@armoule8596]

Yup, if your whole body is held in tight by harnesses and your neck takes the whole impact, we all know what happens 💀

[@100GTAGUY]

​@@armoule8596 gonna pull a Dale doing that, granted he did also loosen his harness a smidge.

[@Thereal_nishikiyama]

​@@armoule8596better than flying through the windshield

[@negnarddingus2613]

“Just because you can doesn’t mean you should…” Hold my beer

[@roydrink]

I get so many half cans of beer that way. 😅

[@ren9839]

Roll cages provide more than structural integrity in a crash, they also contribute to frame stiffness for better handling.

[@bennguyen6827]

How fast are you making turns thru your neighborhood? Speed limit is like 25, most drive 35 thru residents. Don’t think you’ll be needing the extra handling capability lol

[@ren9839]

@@bennguyen6827 how about local hill climbs? Time trials? Bajas? Lotta stuff you didnt consider. Unless you buy a car from a manufacturer that was purpose built for a specific type of racing, your frame will be looser and would greatly benefit from a roll cage.

[@Anzio_VR]

​@@ren9839 that's if it's not your daily, you shouldn't have a multipurpose car

[@Chris-dy1cb]

A roll cage is the last thing im looking at installing if im stiffening a STREET car of all things.

[@spudwickthrockmorton2112]

@@bennguyen6827 you’re asking about speed limits?

[@aidanbeauchamp9588]

Laughs in Miata

[@shockflyerprojectz8938]

Windshield goes flat*

[@TheoneandonlyRexy]

I have a 700hp silverado that's built with trophy suspension.... I'm adding a good mf roll cage (Edit: yes I know what I'm doing, stop telling me what to do)

[@That.Lifted.Ranger]

😂

[@rafaelsaez5596]

Do wear a helmet when you're driving it hard tho.

[@AlexMartini.]

Never said not to! But if you are, buy the right cage for the right purpose. If you weld up something yourself with no intention of understanding stress thresholds and you do crash, you may end up hurting yourself more than if you didn't have one at all.

[@mikesoria3418]

Did you not listen to the clip? ITS A FEW SECONDS GODDAMMIT, LISTEN.

[@TheoneandonlyRexy]

@AlexMartini I know lol, I've done alot of designing. Thanks tho

[@dannyhawkins7004]

We build roll bars and cages in our jeeps, because when we’re out on the trails, if we flip or roll, it will save our lives. We build them pretty damn tough, but they still have some room to bend but of course build them tough enough for 6000 pound jeep won’t crush them.

[@bennguyen6827]

He said for daily. Didn’t mentioned anything bout it not being useful for recreational use like driving on trails. Unless you drive in trails to pick up your kids or go to work then my bad

[@TakeNoShift]

@@bennguyen6827 He titled the video "Roll Cages Aren’t Safe" which is an absurd general statement made strictly for views. He never said anything putting them in a daily driver, he only said it's a waste of money for a street car, which isn't necessarily 100% true. Chances are, if someone is putting a cage in a street car, they're driving that car pretty hard on the streets or maybe even take it to the track, so if they get in an accident on the track or crash it while driving irresponsibly on the streets, it keeps them safe, and also helps the car's handling by reinforcing the chassis. Just because it's a street car does NOT mean it's a daily. Prime example: Tom Bailey's street car.

[@tuckerstrunk9108]

You can’t forget about rock crawling which is standard to have a roll cage on your vehicle

[@travis2893]

Not I

[@mwolfe1486]

Remember this though: Rollcages aren't exclusively designed for safety. They can also be applied to stiffen up the body of the vehicle

[@Lorentz_Driver]

You know for all those 24mph residential streets.

[@spudwickthrockmorton2112]

@@Lorentz_Driver do you actually think they’re going the speed limit? Do you know what a street build is for?

[@joegomez5463]

​@@Lorentz_DriverWhere do you live where the top speed of a residential road is only 24 mph? Lmao. California? Sorry, 24mph is highway speeds there. My bad.

[@poptart4848]

I’m not gonna listen to a guy who forgot what a rollcage was called 😂😂

[@gradysellers2293]

150 dollar roll bar saved my life and I wasn't even in a seat

[@themanhimself3]

Today on shit that never happened.

[@black.pewdiepie415]

​@@themanhimself3 💀🍿

[@chrisginoc]

Baf roll bar?

[@Meekmillan]

What? lol

[@tomsterbg8130]

Roll cages are meant for racing and for fit people with 4-point seatbelts on special seats. You can't really just use one without preparing properly and expect it to save all your problems. However you'll be very safe from the car collapsing on itself. No matter how hard you get hit a proper roll cage won't give in.

[@kylelaughinghouse1893]

For fit people lmao

[@technorunner1]

Sure it won't cave in, but your skull most likely will once you hit your head on the roll bar.

[@412milspec]

If you want to feel like you’re getting tossed around in age. Have some guy in his 20’s say he had to look up a roll cage because he forgot what it was.

[@goofygoodpasture8511]

Yeah, I’m a car person, and that immediately made him lose all credibility

[@jooot_6850]

Roll cage is such an intuitive word too. It’s a cage that lets the car roll. Cmon

[@THESLlCK]

Yeah this guy is just another clueless wheels and bags clown

[@TakeNoShift]

@@jooot_6850 It doesn't "let" the car roll, it's there in case it *does* roll.

[@jooot_6850]

@@TakeNoShift lets it roll without you getting compressed how about that

[@xanthopoulos1825]

The only time a roll cage isn't safe is when you don't spend to money for a proper one. My favorite example of how lifesaving they can be is the video of a Corvette street racing, at 150 mph they lost traction and slammed into a concrete wall on a highway. Both men in the car walked away from a totaled car

[@insederec]

You're right. Let me remove my roll cage on my little convertible with no airbags, that will make me safer in a roll over

[@matthewmorgan582]

They do make padded rollcages. Using foam cylinders can pad them so if you hit them they don't kill you.

[@garmack12]

Keep in mind a few inches of padding is not going to allow for a sufficiently gradual slowing of your skull to prevent brain injury, same goes for other body parts. It will either be too soft and collapse under the pressure or so hard it might as well not be there. I tend to agree with the statement no roll cage without harness and helmet; race car or off-roader

[@skreched]

are we not gonna mention the lack of credit given to donut? because that’s definitely nolan halfway through the short.

[@Holycrap204]

What are they supposed to do??? He used a 2 second clip where he wasnt even facing the camera. Donut doesnt need 'credit' for that.

[@chrishernandez2490]

Fair use buddy

[@jdi.9520]

who cares donut is lame as fuck

[@TakeNoShift]

@@chrishernandez2490 Full credit has to be given for it to count as fair use, hence why it's called *fair* use and not just "use"

[@chrishernandez2490]

@@TakeNoShift Nope. Read it from the dictionary: Fair use "(in US copyright law) the doctrine that brief excerpts of copyright material may, under certain circumstances, be quoted verbatim for purposes such as criticism, news reporting, teaching, and research, without the need for permission from or payment to the copyright holder." There's nothing in there saying that you must give credit.

[@tothemaxx1991]

With the vehicle I'm looking into building for offroad use, a roll cage is critical not only for safety but for structural integrity. It will have five point harnesses and I'll be wearing a helmet. Thank you for the information though

[@JUNKYARDGTO]

Just build the cage the right way the first time to sfi speck, get a seat with head cushions, harnesses and mount the seat to the cage

[@gohtwm]

"Tossed around" _💀💀💀_

[@80PercentAshamedOfU]

My track build is already a deathtrap on the street and I always tell myself “At least it’s not a motorcycle.” Lol

[@__-vb3ht]

What does he mean by making roll cages "too strong"? A cage shouldn't absorb energy. All the stuff outside the cage absorbs energy and gets wrecked in the process. but a soon as the cage starts absorbing energy and folding, your survival zone is compromised. Also, if you are wearing a helmet, harness and hans device, as you should in a caged car, you care less about getting a "soft crash" that puts less load on your neck. I don't care if the car flips over five times and ricochets of a barrier. Rolling a bunch or sliding around also dissipates energy, and if my neck is safe anyways I prefer that method of energy absorption because it doesn't require deforming the structure that's keeping me safe

[@akhyarrayhka4048]

the reason why its a racing thing bcos if your car so tough then the impact of the whiplash would snap off your neck, this means you need a proper car helmet and a hans device.

[@opticalecho119]

If you have harnesses you need a cage, if you have a cage you need a helmet, if you have a helmet you need a HANS device. Racetrack level safety is an all or nothing affair.

[@abadibi]

Roll cages arent meant for racing only. Theyre there to prevent roll over accidents. Your s13 with toothpick sized a pillars arent gonna protect you if the car gets rolled because you wanted a daily that you can drift sometimes. A half cage is still better than no cage

[@NaruSanavai]

Prevent is the wrong word. You can still absolutely roll over.

[@abadibi]

@@NaruSanavai read my comment again. i said "prevent roll over accidents" not "prevent roll overs"

[@NaruSanavai]

@Aba Dibi a rollover accident _is_ a rollover. Moreover, it still doesn't prevent injury or death - just significantly decreases the likelihood.

[@abadibi]

@@NaruSanavai yes its a rollover, but now with risk involved. It doesnt prevent death but it makes it VEEEEEERY unlikely to happen. Kinda like the hillclimp evo that just fell from the cliff.

[@TakeNoShift]

@@NaruSanavai This is the difference between an accident and an incident.

[@justanothernobody982]

You dont need to wear a helmet or racing gear just because you have a roll cage, impacting a roll cage is not a safety concern so long as you zip tie pool noodles or something soft around the cage so you dont hit your head or arms on steel if you crash Also could you show some examples of roll cages being more dangerous than not having them? Im really curious what you mean and I understand better when I actually see it

[@arrivendrive6831]

I was thinking the same thing. Roll cages can be dangerous but if you put some type of soft material around the bar it should be good without a helmet. I am curious if this is true. I have a miata I want to do double duty with.

[@xxslayer255xx]

Imagine an egg drop competition. Drop the egg in a steel box and it breaks. That's what a roll cage that is too strong will do to your body. Drop the egg in a medium that can absorb and bend with the forces, and the egg will not be broken. Having a roll cage that can still absorb forces and direct them away from your body is important.

[@justanothernobody982]

@@xxslayer255xx Good point, thats why I always wear a seat belt, and if a car has a roll cage then it probably also has racing seats and a 6 point harness so as long as I buckle up (which I always do) the harness will always hold my body in place preventing my head from hitting anything, honestly the more likely way I would die is by the whip of my neck in a crash causing my neck to snap But some idiots dont wear their harness/seatbelt so for them yeah I can see how having a roll cage is more dangerous

[@xxslayer255xx]

@@justanothernobody982 a HANS device can save your neck from snapping in the event of a crash. It was revolutionary for the safety of racing and I highly recommend one. However, even if in bucket seats with a 6pt harness and a HANS device, an improperly built roll change can kill you. If the car can't crumple around you and absorb the impact then your body is absorbing it. Too much rigidity and it is still analogous to the steel box and egg. To drive the point home, I'd recommend watching Mark Rober's egg drop video from years ago where he used straws. He shows two different methods of arranging the straws: one that directs the forces away from the egg and one that directs the forces into the egg. You want your roll cage to act like the first regardless of seat, harness, HANS device, etc.

[@jaydoucette3353]

Most tracks require them once you get into certain times. Under 10 seconds here where I’m at

[@Salos1]

If your racing wear a HANS device. A street cars seat belt and airbag prevent you from breaking your neck and smacking your head on the wheel. But with a harness your neck is very vulnerable without a HANS device

[@calebmelton5989]

Beats the hell out of meeting the collapsing roof.

[@toddscars]

Just for all Australians watching this; we have rules (ADR) for our half and full cages - if designed to ADR spec, they are engineered to align with structural integrity, failure points and location to mitigate these issues. This is only for ADR approved cages though (you’ll know if it is) and anything outside of ADR cages are illegal, unable to be engineered to prove ADR standards and have the potential to kill you as per this short.

[@user-sc1es4wz4g]

Hes into cars but had to google whats a roll cage

[@_hanz73]

Also you'd need a Hans device just to be even safer!

[@RHauto]

I dunno can I agree with this one man.. when you drive a rusty 90s shitbox made out of tuna cans on the street, a cage definitely improves your chances of surviving a crash

[@Dragon-Slay3r]

Hidden roll is under the bonnet on the left while the guy who works really fast on chairs is a sharp pump 😂

[@pootmahgoots8482]

(Ziptie n' bias plies voice) "You don't need a roll cage to go racing."

[@lildad559]

Good ol peg 😂

[@garlicbreadbeans]

If your head is moving so far too hit the roll cage, it was going to hit the roof anyway, and if your head has made it that far forward, im not sure that a roll cage js your biggest problem at that point

[@johnryan8985]

Exactly. Your harness is made to keep you from any movement. They are used to be safe but also increase lap times as your hips don't slide around as much. It you have enough slack to hit your head idk what you're doing. I have a 6 point with the 2 front points attaching by the middle of the door. This prevents getting smashed into your door.

[@lanrussell61]

They make special foam for rollcages for racing as well. Even when you're not moving around a lot, you're still moving around some. These foams are there to help prevent possible bodily harm

[@Apoc_Bone_Daddy]

As an off roader that has flipped and rolled vehicles.... Many times..... Uhh..the cage is kinda necessary but not if you don't do any serious racing or off roading

[@matthewserrao2926]

Depends on vehicle usage, but overall I agree. Also missed the fact a lot of people get the wrong style of bar, if you do get one for a street style vehicle (I’m a pre-runner guy so), you need to make sure the cage or bar has the rear “slant” bar HIGHER behind the driver & angled down on passenger side. I’ve seen so many LHD miatas with RHD cages n it looks dorky as fuck.

[@callummclachlan4771]

Yeah. In regards to daily drivers. Roll cages are more hassle than they're worth. Heck, in some cases they can be more dangerous if the jaws of life can't get through, or you have a suspected spinal injury (GT3 cars have an extraction door on the roof for this reason). Not to mention hitting the rollcage would hurt like hell, and then you've got the potential for skull impacts. Which could very much kill you in an otherwise survivable crash. You can't move around more than maybe a few mm in a race car, and you've got a helmet. Same can't be said for a road car which requires you to be able to turn your head around for reverse parking and merging.

[@BaldianOfIbelin]

As a child I always wondered why not all cars had it apart from the cost

[@allux8236]

Cost is pretty much it, space framed cars are expensive to make

[@Barber-StrunkFamily]

“Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should” So don’t eat 500 chicken nuggets?

[@M-Powerdreamsgarage]

This dude is a perfect example of how social media priss boys are turning the car community into a joke

[@meejinhuang]

If you intend on doing any fast driving, a helmet and seatbelt will save your life.

[@Bonked_YT]

Google thinks I want a roll cage I just want a harness bar

[@wyyn]

Maturing is realizing that last sentence. Well said Alex

[@therealpofo]

There is also a difference between a half cage and a full cage. There is a reason why GT3 factory cars come with a 3 point harness and a half cage.

[@larrygreen8092]

That's why there are different levels and styles of rollcages

[@calebsmith8521]

I’m an off road environment it’s better to have a roll cage so the cabin of your truck doesn’t cave in

[@Leocomander]

It’s all fun and games until you have a minor crash at 30 miles per hour and then proceed to hit the roll bar with your head and boom suddenly you vaporized your skull.

[@derin647]

They increase frame rigidity and the cockpit is NEVER designed to bend at all that’s the engine bay and trunks job

[@xXRougeNinjaXx]

Very good point I tell people about this when they cry about me not having one in my miata

[@jordangamesvlogs9892]

Hey, I want that Porsche lego set you have in the background! It’s the next one I want!

[@emacflores7914]

In Crawling is a must 😂

[@KearSki]

As the owner of an 80s toyota truck that is slowly being built up for offroad trails, a roll cage will make it much safer because in the event of a rollover the pillars will crumple accordion style and bring the roof directly into contact with my head. I would rather a truck with a lot of dented panels and a concussion than a dead me inside a now roofless truck. For a go fast nyoom car that is also street driven? make your own bad choices or something, I'm not your parents.

[@FormulaJuann]

Not just a helmet but a HANS device that clips to your helmet and goes under your harness to prevent your head being whiplashed and causing injury!!!!!!

[@mysterycitizen2135]

"Just because you can, doesn't mean you should" - tell that to the stance bois...

[@HuskyRuski]

if done right, you can get a shop to weld one onto your chasis. Avoids the spearing an adds body resistance.

[@hectordelatorrediaz8192]

NB Miata went up angels crest in Los Angeles, guy slides onto the mountain, his car flips, guess which side didn’t completely cave in? You guessed it, his side where the roll cage had the ( \ ) on it , don’t get rep parts like cages, wheels, tires, also I recommend cages with the ( X ) and not just one bar across, also If you track your car, some locations ask that you have a roll bar. If a car can withstand the force of it being flipped on its back, and not cave in, I think street use will be just fine. Say no to reps y’all

[@FredLootLlama123]

Most people get them for handling not safety

[@michaelhardy2813]

🍔 "Burger King has found its new spokesperson"

[@torque-ej4nu]

There is a video floating around of a turbo foxbody street racing, getting loose and hitting a light pole. No roll cage, the car ended up in 3 or 4 peices of mangled up metal. Had it been caged properly the cwr would have stayed mostly intact. This post is very misleading and people listening to what you are saying can be hurt.

[@TheRealCDGLogan]

"Just be cause you can, doesn't mean you should"... but i really want to 👉👈

[@Cm_photographyRB]

It’s ok as I’ve just gutted the back out and going to fit just a back one and you can buy just show cages aswell

[@mobiuswrx2137]

If I'm putting a roll cage in my WRX in the future, my car has earned having a roll cage in it. Because I decided to race the car on a track and put in a full racing harness and got a proper helmet.

[@Rev1900]

“Just because you can doesn’t mean you should” so if I was to not put a roll Cage in my dune buggy I have a higher chance of dying and I making a cage that will withstand a truck hitting it so I don’t died

[@chevyboyforlife4234]

I put a roll cage in a 3rd gen Camaro not for safety but for rigidity strengthen the body of the car

[@johnathanbodkin122]

I’ve got one in my Jeep rock crawler and I can confirm that smacking your head on it is far less that pleasant

[@hun8978]

I would say that a roll cage is meant to stop the top of the car from collapsing. The same reason why people put headache racks on trucks.

[@TakeNoShift]

It's meant for a lot more than that, especially depending on the application.

[@williamsanders468]

All I got was don’t put a roll cage in your daily driver.

[@MrFixIt929]

Tell me you don't race without telling me you don't race

[@keltonbange5882]

In my Miata, I’d say I’m safer putting a cage in even as a street car, but I’ll have a harness

[@JSAFIXIT]

"Racing seats" are also generally not a good idea for similar reasons.

[@CheckeredPony]

very short, very informative. how shorts should be. great job.

[@Nimrod336]

No people use role cages because they want to go to a track and alot of state (kinda sure all state) requires one

[@nathanjantz1283]

Have you ever wondered how racers walk away from accident over 100mph. Mainly due to the roll cage but yes with a 6 point roll cage you should wear a helmet. But a 4 point does not facilitate a helmet for daily use

[@ovuvuevuevueonyetenyevweug976]

so basically make sure you pay the right price for a legit cage

[@segeros]

They are also used for rally

[@Drunken_Hamster]

So what should the guy who wants a stiffer chassis, and some roll protection, BUT ALSO wants street seats and airbags do? Like, I want to be held in my car better, but still have the "break free" effect so my head isn't whipped. It just seems like there are no middle ground products, so you either do without and have no clout )or vehicular improvement) or you add stuff to your car that's really gonna hurt you when push comes to shove.

[@Pandaprintspro]

that’s why I always recommend a half cage

[@TheRealMrJester]

Just because you can doesn't mean you should but I will.

[@JordanL1877]

Alex has an almost exact miniature version of my car on his desk. I chose the right car. Lol

[@kevinpazos9846]

The way I see it, if your car or truck regularly sees track use and the track requires some kind of cage, get it, its needed. If its your daily that can boogie, maybe get one, but it's not needed. If it's your clapped out mustang or civic that rattles like a tin can full of bolts and twerks harder then miley on a bender, don't get one, sell your car.

[@josephpeluchette191]

This is true for off road as well the type of wheeling matters

[@Hydra_Scale]

Don't use the donut media they specifically called it a racing car

[@lukeoakley6467]

well some roll cages add rigidity could make a car feel better on the road as well

[@DatPenguin97]

Buddy got a street legal (in Germany!) half cage in his E36 sedan recently. He told me that chassis feels way better due to the added stiffness 😅

[@blutygergaming8789]

My man used Donut Media footage

[@stefanomorelli7669]

ah yes the expert on (hold on let me google that...) rollcages!

[@iluminattipa]

The main point is it adding stiffness

[@MisterFixit69]

ive seen the rolls on a miata, ive got a miata, im buying a rollbar...

[@brettschuller1863]

Depending on horsepowe/track time you laid down you may be kicked out until you get a cage.

[@lylehausser]

biggest thing is if your driving with a roll bar on the street, and get into a accident there is a way bigger chance of you dying from wacking your head on the cage

[@arrivendrive6831]

What if you put something soft around the bars? Just curious

[@bfab3162]

So many people fit full cages in their stance/non committed racing builds and I laugh when I see it. Crashing a full cage car without a helmet simulates taking a baseball bat to the head. If you want a cage in your street car where you aren’t wearing a helmet every time you drive it, get a half cage or at least one that’s designed so that your head is clear in the event of a crash.

[@orochi2723]

imagine you stop applying a roll cage to your car after watching this and then a large boulder of mass hit your rooft and you died in a pancake way

[@WhuppopotamusYT]

I’m sure not having a roll cage in a 62 vw that I daily on the highway would be much safer without one

[@kaspermp.3.495]

Yeahhh ever since i was kid i knew those thing werent 100% safe and could actually cause more harm than good