Roll the Joists Again - 2nd Floor Ep 51

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[@FinishCarpentryTV]

House is looking great! Enjoyed the last podcast and discussion on Larry Haun. Keep up the good work guys.

[@justicechestnut3950]

Finish Carpentry TV hey dude I enjoy the content

[@dauhoocassam3057]

I've been a builder for many years and have seen quite a fair bit of sheds. The plans in ryan's package kzbin.infoUgkxB7IXYxLzb_Ichhe45zM3Im5xfEiSp9vB have some of the nicest looking sheds i've seen in a while.

[@Gunner1750]

I see myself binge watching this house build this winter when the weather is too cold to do anything outside. Excellent series.

[@slingerland3g]

@y. o. True, you should see 'CrazyFramer' series. He solo builds in some nasty weather!

[@mrromantimothy]

I spent maybe 15 Winters working in the snow doing construction, the carpenters would chip away the ice and frame the shell and we would be in there walking around on Ice doing the electrical. Except for the really cold days when the romex would start .cracking

[@Gunner1750]

@y. o. Oh I spend my fair share in the cold. But not anymore then I have too. I'd rather chill on the couch and watch someone else work on KZbin when given the opportunity.

[@BondJamesBond]

Haha how cold is too cold?

[@danielerenae]

Im laying here in bed with 4 broken ribs for walking across i joist that didnt have hangers on them yet. Get hangers on rite away. Been doing this 15 years. Should know better. Take your time to make it safe and have fun. Great videos.

[@RodneyFisk]

Thanks for sharing that. Too many people in the trades have a cavalier attitude about safety. I've seen a lot of accidents in my 37 years in the trades. EVERY SINGLE ONE was due to the victim thinking he was beyond injury. Trade work is dangerous. I'm safe, and even I get hurt. To those just starting out, or those looking to build your own: Safety First!

[@trappedbyfire1537]

Broken ribs are Very Painful, and are the worst in the morning, trying to get outta bed....install a grab handle on a steel cable attached to the ceiling, to pull up to get outta bed....

[@svensvrgen6336]

That's crazy bro get well

[@carrotbailey]

shea w Gravity is a bitch. Get well soon brother. I cracked a rib about 10 years ago and I still remember the pain of taking deep breaths.

[@choimdachoim9491]

I cracked a couple ribs one year and had to belt stiff magazines around my chest and keep working until they healed. Didn't have enough money to go to the Doctor. Deep breaths and coughing were black-out painful. It was funny how it happened: my oldest daughter had moved in with me and used some kind of beauty oil in the bathtub/shower...I stepped in the next morning and down I went, right on the edge of the tub.

[@murraystewartj]

Man, watching you guys scamper around at height framing that second floor brings back both fond memories and regrets. In my youth doing that kind of work was no problem. Into my early forties I developed severe vertigo, and came to the sad realization that I could not safely do much of the work I loved. Now into my 60th year and getting more than four feet up on a step ladder is fraught with danger. Well, that's how it goes. Thanks, EC, for your commitment to education - the how-to, the why-to and, most important, the lessons in how to be a decent human being who builds with integrity.

[@psidvicious]

It’s good that you listened to your brain when it began to warn you about working at heights. Probably the biggest key to that kind of work is confidence. If your body is telling you, “Don’t do this!”, you should probably listen. 🤜🤛

[@georgekonii4739]

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[@stevebounds4285]

Without seeing the finished house I would buy it just because I trust Scott to build my home. Also I want this house because those views are amazing!!!

[@adamjames4959]

Steve Bounds thinking the exact same thing

[@prepperjonpnw6482]

I drove up that street at the beginning of this project just to check out the view and the site. It does have some killer views lol I’d liked to have Scott build my house just so I could have done more learning and less teaching lol (my son helped build mine)

[@matteberry58]

Not too many people live somewhere that dinner just walks into the front lawn! I am continually amazed at your physical fitness. You walk around up there better than most guys your age walk on the ground

[@steenfraosterbro3268]

truly enjoy this channel. I live in Denmark where we really don't build like this, which makes it that much more exiting to watch. The whole time you were cutting the wooden I-beams I was thinking Festool TSC55 with the FSK track would make these cuts as easy as cutting a normal 2x4.

[@rodrigozelaya6424]

Best construction series on KZbin, congratulations EC!

[@sundaresansengundar9844]

Hi Essential Craftsmen, your videos are amazing. I am from NZ and studying QS, transitioning from the health sector. So completely unaware of the construction industry. Your videos from part 1 to 51 enabled me to identify each part of the house and helped me to align with my studies. I am waiting for the plasterboard linings, the stopping details and roof, and weatherboards and so on-how it gets installed. Your quality of work and the details you put are evident from the videos and I really enjoy them. Thanks once again.

[@Jim1457a]

EC, there are so many things I love about your vids... You remind me of my main mentor from back in the eighties; leading by example, walking on the tricky part, doing the hard part, etc... Old Bill was trained as a Seabee.. We used 6-1/2" Skilsaws back when he was teaching me, with tool-steel blades and all, and Bill would get them resharpened.... lol, that was back when carbide blades seemed expensive, so Bill taught us to be careful while cutting... The 6-1/2" Skilsaw was easier to wield, but it could still make all the cuts.. When I watch you use a saw, you remind me so much of Bill and I love it! More power to you sir!

[@WhiskeySix03]

That view is priceless! I too am 61. Started as a framer at 17. Bought a leather apron, tape and Stanley Steelmaster 20oz hammer with my first paycheck. Framing in shorts and tennis shoes. Great fun. Watching your videos brings back a lot of great memories. We need young people in the trades now more than ever. Keep inspiring.

[@mrromantimothy]

I'm the same age and the same story I used to use a rigging axe and man I could swing it, swinging a hammer is a lost art ,we didn't have nail guns back then

[@keithrobinson4402]

I luv this guy learn something new all the time

[@stephenmartin8587]

I’m watching from north east England town called Sunderland I love your videos all you Americans seem to be doing this type of work

[@RHEC1776]

I'm breaking ground on my house January 2021

[@prepperjonpnw6482]

I live just down the road from where this house is being built but I’m from Braintree in Essex. With a name like Stephen Martin you’d be welcome here lol. You should come visit the great Pacific Northwest. We’ll take you hunting while you’re here. Cheers mate and happy trails.

[@shirazayub]

I'm from Yorkshire. It's so true. Americans are truly spoilt with all the space they have. The Pacific northwest is absolutely beautiful. I wish there was more opportunity to do this in the UK.

[@grunt89futtock890]

Away the lads!

[@psidvicious]

@@shirazayub The UK used to ‘own’ a good portion of the world! Reminds me of that old saying “The sun never sets on the Union Jack” 🤜🤛

[@waynemiracle8928]

Great video! The music is superb! I’ve been playing bluegrass for 50 years and these guys are great!

[@georgebelcher1051]

Scott you’ve picked such a beautiful plot to build on! Great views

[@luism.raposo5138]

Your a smart good man. I wished I worked for you years ago and now. I would know a lot more now and would have worked with a good person. Great work you do. Thank you.

[@robertpoliti7284]

you guys are very good at how you all work

[@hammertime7349]

U sir are truly a craftsman an I appreciate ur channel and the wisdom u share

[@19nails]

Scott, thanks so much for the great education. I'm dying to hear your updated review on the skilsaw review.

[@grampacross7386]

And Thank You for the good work you do (for us)!

[@OneWorldExplorer]

Great job Nate and Scott! I’m enjoying the podcast too! Keep up the good work!

[@rustyshackleford5060]

Keep up the good work!

[@kengamble8595]

Nice view, nice music ! 😊 Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍

[@mattschoular8844]

Thanks Scott. It's looking good.

[@rossbuchanan7632]

For cross cutting the I beams- cut a piece of ply about a 15" long so it fits snug on the web between the two flanges. Nail across it a straight batten about 3 inches from the right end. Run your skilsaw across, keeping it against the batten, to cut off the excess. Job done-you've made a cutting jig. Mark length on a joist. Put cut end of cutting jig at mark. Cut off with skilsaw. Move on.

[@bigunone]

For those that don't know there are knock outs in most I joists for your subs to run wire and water lines through. Please make sure to align your I joists the same way it sure makes it easier on your subs

[@tristanmassie3574]

Charlie They’d drill their holes anywhere they want anyway lol

[@bigunone]

@@tristanmassie3574 I don't like drilling over my head whole lot easier to just drive the plug out with my hammer, most of the time I don't even need a ladder to do it

[@timbarnett3898]

I once remodeled small Oregon City city home my grandfather an uncle built. I stripped off sheetrock to bare wood furring living room interior wall. The whole wall was 1X8 fur strips with NOT one knot in entire wall, pure wood the whole wall! I was amazed!

[@psidvicious]

That engineered lumber you’re using for the rim joists is some really nice stuff but I always remember it being super expensive compared to regular sawn lumber. That’s the same material OSHA requires to be used for scaffold planking. I remember the masons used to get extremely upset if one of my carpenters took one of their planks and cut it up for something 😬🙄 🤜🤛

[@bigperm5027]

Try using a "Big 12" square as a saw guide when cutting those joists it makes life a hell of a lot easier.

[@eddjordan2399]

carry a bit of scrap wood that fits into the web of the engineered wood beam and run from mark to mark the scrap will support the skill saw. job done! you can keep the scrap piece in your tool belt.

[@baasting]

I really enjoy your videos! Thank you. Greetings from The Kingdom of Norway.

[@ricktrapperriley2534]

Interesting fact. Here in Canada we usually sheet the exterior walls before we stand them up. To keep the walls square. If the walls are very large sometimes leave a few sheets out.

[@afh7689]

He discussed the reasons why they didn't sheath the walls before lifting in an earlier video when they put up the walls. Besides having to lift the extra weight, I think there were a couple more reasons that I can't recall.

[@ricktrapperriley2534]

YouTubaholic I guess it boils down to builders preference. Maybe wind in his area. Climate makes a difference. Just never see it done here.

[@tocodelray]

At this point I am just watching the new content to find out WHY they didn't do the sheathing before standing the walls. It has been 3 or 4 videos now of me wondering. I'm thinking maybe he wants to stagger the sheathing so it overlaps between the first and second floor and ties things together? But... the cost and the time and the pain of sheathing after the fact... it just doesn't make sense to me. Especially for a spec house where you are trying to keep costs and schedule under control. Very curious to hear the reasoning here.

[@Guysm1l3y]

Been loving listening to the podcast over on EC2!

[@vinht23]

That view is spectacular!

[@robertporterfield7680]

I love what you guys are doing and the value you are bring to future generations with these videos. I remember when I made the decision I wanted to be a carpenter and dedicating countless hours not just learning in the field but watching videos just like these. I would be laying in my bed trying to hash out a process in my head that I just wasn't to sure on. I'd pull out my phone and within 10 minutes, I would have the answer. Thats beauty of the internet and the work you're doing right here. How do I donate? Thank you gentlemen.

[@bobbailey4954]

What a pleasure to have the view while you work.

[@milanroets9697]

It was not mentioned but the dab of glue on the joists is a great idea to keep the floor from squeaking. I am using the same joists on my current build. The guide has a QR code to set a link to send in pictures of any damage joists that need repair and someone will send back repair instructions. Just brilliant. An engineer told me not to use ring shacks with lvl corded joists because it does more splitting than a sinker. I also no longer use glue on the subfloor but polyurethane foam like Huber, it is way strong, easier to apply, and less likely to squeak.

[@EscapePowerSports]

long time subscriber, also a big fan of podcast. Love the technical details in this series, I understand ya'lls balancing act of entertainment vs education emphasis... Although clearly ya'lls channel provides a ton of both, but I'd lean into the education side of the pendulum, as hundred if not thousands... if not hundreds of thousands..... of young guys looking to get into the trades for hobby, work, or as a side hustle, will benefit from this great content for decades to come. Thank you sir for doing this channel, and please, dear god, keep up the good work. Cheers.

[@kalijasin]

Everything looks very level, plumb, and straight. 👍

[@markarnold1616]

Never the less WELL DONE.

[@lockednloaded7830]

Nice view of the surrounding area from the second floor

[@multibucker]

Not a pro, just a home owner, but I am soaking up this channel like a sponge! The knowledge and inspiration is of great value to me, subscribed, thank you!

[@DwayneThompson22]

My dad was a carpenter and tilesmith. I was blessed to have worked with him and my uncle (god father) on various stages of builds. On one job, some years ago, we were decking the roof. Dad was cutting and my Uncle and I were putting it down. I stepped on the air hose a couple of times and my uncle would yell, "If you fall, you're fired before you hit the groud". I found this channel a few months ago after I broke my hand. My dad and my uncle (his brother) both passed away this year, uncle just before I broke my hand and my dad a month later. I greatly appreciate your series; there is a lot of nostalgia in there for me. Prayers for continued success and blessings for you and yours sir. -Teaxs

[@Strawman333]

Man, a view like that makes a jobsite so much better. Thx for the video.

[@63256325N]

Thanks for the video.

[@BattlestarCanada]

Amazing views! WOW Roseberg,OR is awesome!

[@papapetad]

Thanks for sharing.

[@RenJosLop]

I’ve been waiting for this... And all the other future episodes 🙂

[@publicmail2]

I had an Uncle that built his own house and the story was he went nuts afterward.

[@GARRY3754]

Wall nut I am sure.

[@chriswild2458]

In the UK 🇬🇧the first floor is the ground floor and the second floor is the first floor😂 we call these the chamber joists I love this channel of yours the differences and similarities

[@psidvicious]

What floor comes after 12 in the UK?

[@Protonotaire]

You could also make a jig or guide to cut the “I-joist” by using a block sitting flush with the flange to which you could nail or screw a strait edge, parallel to the cut, to make easier and more accurate cuts; even angled cuts.

[@derrickbarnett1771]

i just made the same comment and didn't read far enough down to see you already covered it, damn now I'm "that guy"

[@suspicionofdeceit]

Yep, did that for years.

[@psidvicious]

@@derrickbarnett1771 A LOT of people made that comment before reading. 🤜🤛

[@FamilyFriendlyDIY]

Taunton Press has a good book called Building with Engineered Lumber by John Spier... lots of great info and jigs that make cutting the I-joists quick and simple.

[@timsisko1656]

i use a piece of 1/4 inch piece of plywood atop ijoist makes all clean cuts straight to angles

[@troyholder1]

House looks great, new subscriber here. I personally like using 1 1/2 lumber for rim joist, especially if your gonna add an additional ledger for a porch or something. Though some swear to only use that 1 1/8 stuff.

[@trappedbyfire1537]

I just want to say one thing: The best aspect of this whole series is watching Genuine Quality Building take place, with no Morons or Fools on the job site.....The country needs thousand of builders like you guys, and there are very few, indeed.

[@matthughes7851]

Love your work Scott. I’m in need of a builder like you over here in Oz for my forever house.....when are you free?😁

[@tipnring]

Why not make a notched, fitted straightedge for marking those beams? Seems like it’d be worth the time.

[@firesurfer]

Marking jig? Probably a good idea. But not useful when walking beams. You'd have to carry it around and where would you put it? I like the method of doing it on the ground who would cut it and then hand it up to the guy on the upper level. Many of these can be gang cut on the ground with a chainsaw.

[@frontlinefinishcarpentry4193]

Festool HKC 55? Portable track saw. Not sure if it has the right depth of cut, but if it did I imagine it would be the cats meow for this situation.

[@djvasforever]

@@frontlinefinishcarpentry4193 Yeah, a track saw makes sense here.

[@GameVilleofficialpage]

Front Line finish carpentry I don’t know the specifics but it seems like it would work, I mean the best option is a miter saw but that’s not feasible with their decision to cut it in place.

[@jrsuk1170]

@@frontlinefinishcarpentry4193 That's what I was thinking too. A great too in these circumstances providing it cuts deep enough.

[@nineoneten]

Great series, enjoying all the videos. You missed a major item off the house plan - an area for all the wildlife to come and say hello and feed ! Keep up the good work.

[@pandachuzero]

amazing, thanks!

[@fhangorn]

in the first seconds I've noticed the trucks parking with their wheels turned to the right. Got curious and find out it's done when you're on a hill for if your brakes fail. Here in the Netherlands such thing is not necessary because we don't have hills at all.

[@nolesdennhardt8986]

Thank You!

[@carlospessolano3950]

Hi, have you more videos, like EP 52, 53, etc, many thanks, and congratulations, espectacular job and explanations.

[@davemoulton8051]

Going to be a million dollar veiw fantastic series keep up the great work

[@scruffy6151]

When i first subscribed to your channel i had no idea how fast it would grow congratulation on going over 600,000 subscribers. GOD BLESS to you and your family.

[@jessebuck90]

I've been refreshing my fee for 2 days waiting the next vid!! Keep up the good work!!

[@ernestoramirez224]

Good thing you’re the contractor, because otherwise working production, we’ll have a really small check. Like your videos btw 👍

[@solidglobe6795]

re the cutting disuccsed at 7.50 - put a small packer in if your saw has the depth to avoid the table going down and back up again. to keep the saw at one consistent plane

[@shaunjones3119]

I really like this guy 😁

[@Debtfreehomesteaders]

Love EC 2 as well. -Will

[@olivercotton347]

When you mentioned NOT nailing or screwing through the engineered truss flange you mean from top, bottom, toe-nailing, yes? End nailing to rim joist (other joists) is OK? Do you use special hangers for angles other than 90 degrees?

[@James_Bowie]

At 0:30 -- some of these video shots, thanks to the natural light, look exactly like they were shot on Kodachrome cine film from way back.

[@eggsoups]

You can whip up an easy little jig to cut those joists more easily- just mark the length, no need to square the line, slide the jig over and cut.

[@zachmiller5099]

The definition of a true badass. I imagine you've forgotten more about building than I even know! Keep it up sir!

[@kerrygleeson4409]

Great work thanks for sharing 👍🇦🇺🚜

[@joshpursley8404]

Love your vids

[@markarnold1616]

YOU and crew use about a third of the straps and holdown hardware as we do when building spec homes in Tahoe.

[@mayhemmayo]

thank you

[@sampantiliano]

I’ve never seen the box beam put in first. We normally sit the floor joists back a 1 1/2 then install after.

[@Lugnut64052]

LVLs for rim joists. Interesting and awesome.

[@denisricher1349]

Dave, You mentioned cutting the I-Joists is a pain... can I suggest you try a small piece of web filler to make the cut area flat for your saw plate.... worked for me

[@user990077]

The joist hangers have metal on top that looks like it could cause a bump in the subfloor decking.

[@kylek9432]

If he doesn't shim for the hangers, I'm going to protest!

[@michaeljacobs9613]

Sub Floor adhesive will average out those minor bumps. I'm sure that if it's less than a 1/16th / 2mil it won't matter. Might also be hidden under a wall, in a closet or so close to a wall that you would never tell.

[@doitnow3291]

One thing I've thought of that you should relay to your watchers and fans..... If they are having a house built....the care that goes into this framing portion of the job Can, and will vary wildly!! Many times poor materials...unskilled labor....and shortcuts Are employed and this portion of the build...is the most vulnerable to that happening. The work here is exemplary and what all should strive for! Retired after many,many years in the trade! Love it!

[@columbuspalmer846]

I think you do great work. You don’t work hard you work safe and easer also it gets the job done quicker 😊

[@noahbrewster8263]

Thank you

[@mrromantimothy]

I built a house and I did everything on it but the plumbing so when I put a toilet flange in as we're pouring the slab I didn't know that a turd wouldn't run down a 2" pipe! The plumber that showed up out there was kinda yelling at me about it, hey I was just trying to get it into ground lol

[@MARTINA-gc3tq]

Watch out that trimmer position for the stair opening! 😀

[@Andrew-py8wd]

Have you ever tried cutting TJIs with a bigfoot saw and a shooter board? You can make the shooter board so it sits on the TJIs just like a big speed square would.

[@sandchar]

Personally as an electrician those rim joists are a pain when you need to run a wire through the ceiling. Since they are an engineered product we cannot drill a hole through them so we need to run a wire around them maybe down through a wall and it is especially a pain when they are near a panel.

[@psidvicious]

Those joists have ‘knock-out’ holes in them specifically for wiring and plumbing etc. You should be able to drill a hole thru anyway, as long as you keep it exactly in the center of the web. 🤜🤛

[@sandchar]

@@psidvicious I could be wrong but with the rim joists there are no knock outs

[@abenzuoo]

Hello, now that this is soon done have you planned to do next house (simplier than this)? Keep up the building houses x)

[@Dingo500]

You sure picked a beautiful location.

[@paulkelly1702]

Absolutely mesmerizing Scott. The way a couple of guys can knock out framing and make it look easy. Practice does make perfect.

[@BenMack87]

My construction teacher used the same material of your joist as a rim board and filled the void on both sides with blue board insulation that way the floor system was insulated

[@b_rad5678]

Awesome views!

[@derrickbarnett1771]

This is a day late and a dollar short I'm sure but when I've dealt with cutting several I joists i always made a "square" for marking square cuts. Just use plywood the width of the web and build that up until its close to being flush with the flange. then put another piece on top of that that is square in relation to the I joist. it only works for square cuts but typically those are the lions share of cuts you make when using them. If you are going to make a lot of cuts at a constant angle you can make one of these at that given angle fairly easily.

[@daleyparsons7219]

Hi EC! Great vids guys! What was the plastic sheet on the (4’) long board that have the joist hangers nailed to them?

[@user-tl5fi9lz9z]

This episode starts and all I can think of is roast turkey.

[@BigDaddyJDog]

Drone shots would be cool. I have been watching all the episodes!

[@micahwatson9017]

He addressed that early on that the site is in a no drone zone near a small airstrip.

[@swissbanjoman]

How about using the I- joist for a rafter on a cathedral ceiling/ roof, instead of a scissor truss? What kind of hanger would it require? They seem really strong.

[@kevind1865]

What are your thoughts on 2x4 manufactured floor truss systems? On paper they seem great, longer spans, stiffer, more space to nail down the T+G plywood, and running mechanicals is dead simple. Any thoughts on longevity or creaking when everything has loosened in 10 years?