Rollerblader VS Cyclists - Can I Keep Up? + Commentary | Commute + Montreal Formula 1 Track

[@DavidSmith-kc8ft]

Hello Joey! I was a former speed skater in the late '90s, recently I built a new pair of speed skates but the bearings are not performing that well. I was wondering what kind of skate bearing would you recommend since I've been out of the loop for so long. Thank you!

[@JoeyMantiaSkates]

Great question, my plan is to go through the comments section of this video and try to answer most of the questions during my next skate, shouldn't be too long before the next one comes out

[@daviddunneart]

Great video 🙌🙌🦵🦵 looks an amazing place to skate

[@garywillacey9979]

ABEC 11 are very good, or you could go the full hog & get Ceramic, which are probably the best you're gonna get. If you don't wish to spend too much, go for ABEC 9, these are also good for speed.

[@scorpnz4433]

If you know someone who works on vacuum cleaners grab some of those even used ones are real good. As a comparison compared to new ceramic bearings they're on par imo, look at this way they roll real well. They are also able to be stripped i.e completely pulled apart. If someone you know does scrapping they'll most likely have some armatures you can get the bearings off. Some electrical motors also use 608's

[@2chrono2]

How much money you got to burn? You still won't find much better than Bones Swiss ceramics, but they still cost an arm and a leg; feel more expensive than they were back then to me, but I could be misremembering. At the end of the day, I'd recommend going with anything ceramic and rebuildable/serviceable if you have the budget and want something that's high performance and long-lasting... I find my no-brand ABEC 7s from inline warehouse go fast enough for me, but I'm not a speed skater.

[@MrClandry94]

Hey! I'm the cyclist in the blue jersey. You were super fast and it was fun having you in our draft!

[@JoeyMantiaSkates]

Appreciate the pull 🙏

[@RenoSpeedSkater]

its cool, you let him skate with you. many groups or cyclists get a bad attitude when a speed skater rolls with group.

[@reubenabela3063]

@@RenoSpeedSkater i wouldn't take it against the cyclists, its all about willingness to accept risks, a skater can never decelerate as fast as a cyclist if the need arises

[@RenoSpeedSkater]

@@reubenabela3063 your very correct. i can be speedskating in a pack of cyclists going 27 mph, and then hear...light up... i have no way of stopping..i pull out to the left and sometimes need to make the right hand turn. i also ride, but when i am in great shape and fast i speed skate with groups of cyclists. most groups accept me, some less experienced groups are not comfortable. i pick and choose group rides depending on what type of training i am doing. . i occasionally skate with cyclists in long distance 50 mile Charity type events, they are not as fast as a Sat Group. Its not common to see a speed skater hang with any cyclist group, but, once they see i am experienced, and not easily going to get dropped.. mile by mile they have more respect for my effort and accept me as part of group.

[@BroClayz]

​@@RenoSpeedSkater I once saw a group of cyclists, started riding with them but they didn't like it😢

[@listofromantics]

What a beast! 165 to 170+ BPM, passing cyclists on road bikes (and e-bikes), and still holding a conversation without much effort.

[@marimoedmond]

bro, its so crazy! lol, even e-bikes😂😂😂😂

[@DriverJ-N]

I defiantly underestimate the potential of the human body

[@blackcatjazzin]

Just discovering him, wow, this cat is a beast. I’m impressed!

[@blackcatjazzin]

Joey, new to you. This is the best video I’ve seen on pragmatic rollerblading. You are a baaad boyee’ . New fan 😎

[@SKBKER]

The ebikes weren't trying that's the difference and one pothole and he'll go flying .

[@kevinnorris1691]

You constantly impress with your use of tech as well as your skating! Love the 2 box look on the track with the data overlay!

[@kevinoneill2170]

This was really entertaining. Watched the whole thing. You're a good communicator and teacher. I'm glad you're paying if forward by sharing the knowledge and expertise you've gleaned over the years and learned from those who came before you. Thank you for continuing to share, teach, and entertain. -Kevin, Team Rainbo Chicago

[@JoeyMantiaSkates]

I appreciate that! Thanks for the watch

[@ДокК-в3б]

Hello, Joey! You are a top speedskater, master of technique and strength. Ordinary urban skaters from Moscow say hello to you and enjoy watching your videos.😊

[@user-galaxy-dust-project]

Да да из Москвы) Но я в Москве так никогда не двигался, не знаю, может у вас там асфальтовое покрытие в Америке хорошее, чем в Москве, плюс перепады высот и трафик автотранспорта😢

[@jimdriscoll8787]

Great camera work. Love the side and behind shots you get! And you're talking at such a high speed!!!! I love your videos, Joey. You make it look so easy, so smooth! Thank you!!!

[@odtube]

Great narrative and editing! Also cool to see that track open to light traffic. Really wish we had something like this here in Sweden. Also props on the skating, but that's a given 😂

[@seblanoue]

Hi Joey, I just noticed that you passed in front of my house haha I am part of RollingTribes skating group in Montreal, don’t hesitate to check with us if you are looking for urban skating sessions. For example we organize luminous rides every Friday in the different neighborhoods for people to discover :)

[@JoeyMantiaSkates]

I'm such a tourist when I urban skate haha so, so bad at it, but it's fun. I'd love to join you guys sometime. Can you shoot me a DM on insta?

[@h_xgaming4115]

It's fun watching this as one of the fastest ice speedskaters in my age group and just seeing the type of techniqe and all that good stuff!

[@nicolaeiotu7362]

Some facts after a few years of intense urban skating. Hardness 88A is The One for cities. I'm using 110 88A for all sorts of stops including powerslide, powerstop and hockey stop, but it took me a few years to master all these. So at the beginning I was using the T stop. In a few years average wheel diameter went from 110 to 105. This is because the wheels are really hard and don't wear easily. Don't hesitate to T stop on hardness 88A!

[@jambad]

Is their alot of difference between 88a and 89a? When I do urban skating I go between 85a for a more comfortable ride and 89a for the more rough roads that tend to take a beating on the wheels.

[@nicolaeiotu7362]

@@jambad 88A has slightly better grip when comparing with 89A which is also not so common and probably more expensive

[@tengisbuyanbadrakh6534]

Agreed. Using ps next stock wheel for 3 years

[@tredz4867]

I try to find some 110 88a idk where you guys buy them it seems pretty rare to find? Idk if im wrong or not but if you know a site to find a good amount of them let me know 😁

[@BroClayz]

I only do t stops but I wanna learn the power stops and more over time🎉

[@bryanlabchuk]

algorithm works - I saw you on the track the other week, awesome video

[@AdrianKaballero]

Lovely footage, glad to see a rollerblader keeping up with the bikes! really motivating.

[@tyyao2000]

Prediction: Mr. Mantia accruing power until the inevitable stuttering skater collab in nyc where he pops off to millions of viewers

[@WagnerWiliam-k4o]

Vc é Monstro!!! O melhor no que faz, grande abraço ✌️🇧🇷

[@specialk22tt]

Great video! Good info and lessons in the beginning. Would love more about these and other tips for improving the double push (in addition to your awesome double push video).

[@AlexRamos-Bliss]

Super fun to watch and listen! Just subbed!

[@McCSFunk]

Cool skating Joey, as always!

[@RenoSpeedSkater]

Cool Video Joey! You captured the essence of road speed skating skating with cyclists. I am from California. When i am in shape and fast I too jump in a pace line with cyclists and groups. sometimes they like it, and many times they don't. keep sharing your lifestyle!

[@Some_Guy_87]

Dang, this really puts things into perspective for me. I'm currently doing 30km tours with 17km/h average speed and if I give it my all for a really fast "I can only do this for 20 seconds"-sprint I don't get above 27, which looks like a chill speed in this video. This gives me hope a 21 average might not be that impossible to reach at some point.

[@JoeyMantiaSkates]

keep working at it, the consistency will get you there

[@MrStrikemasterice]

The season talk is so real. Its been almost a year since i consistently starting inline skating and I'm finally getting a feel for things i've practiced on and off for the last year. We all have one side that we're super comfortable on when it comes to transitioning to a backward skating and its encouraged to always practice your weaker side so i've been doing that but its never felt natural until literally yesterday. Same with Soul slide, I've tried it on and off but i literally only was able to do it yesterday. I just love how your body starts to remember and acclimatize to certain movements. Nothing beats consistently skating and actually practicing little by little.

[@timmorphine]

Nice, fitness skating for the masses

[@yt.damian]

That speed is awesome!

[@fussellino1]

You can skate at Road America (Indy Car track) about 45 min north of the Petit Center in Wisconsin during the summer as well.

[@FFdo.]

"I just wanna do my training alone"

[@projektrenegade3877]

Check out the Old Abe State trail in Wisconsin from Chippewa falls to Cornell it's 20 miles there and 20 miles back with great asphalt and beautiful back drop.

[@KyryxKoopa]

I am amazed at how fast you can go on skates like these. In regaurds to determine if I am a pedestrian, If I am using a sidewalk or the right of way on the shoulder or right side of the road, and using human power for propulsion and traveling less then 10mph/12kmph I am a pedestrian with the exception that it is an electric wheelchair or mobility scooter for propulsion. If i am in a bike lane or in the right of way and i am traveling faster then 10mph/12kmph while using electricity, ICE, or human power I am a road user.

[@AC_Bikes_400]

Top quality content. Love it. 👌

[@dougbrady3019]

Can you explain what you mean by pulling with the hips to create speed, please? Awesome video btw. So glad you're posting 👊

[@JoeyMantiaSkates]

yea it'll be in a video in the next couple of weeks

[@albondar]

I think it's not obvious that bike experiences more drag than skater. To me it's either comparable or the opposite since on a bike their feet are tucked in so the lower portion of the area is that of the bike (tire/frame) which is more narrow and compact than both our legs on the pushoff.

[@jerryvignau9359]

I've been away from home studying for almost a year now and I sold my skates when I left (couldn't bring them or store them). I miss it a lot! Seeing these videos makes me feel like I went skating as well haha hopefully soon I will get back at it! Cheers Joey and greetings from a Mexican in Paris!

[@blackhatstudios5673]

Curt does make the Phoenix, I’d love to eventually try them out at some point, I know they’re pretty popular internationally

[@BalaHormiga]

So impressive!

[@ChrisDavis-sx3nq]

As a long term bike racer and skater, I can say there has to be some major power output on the skates to go that fast. Riding at the front in a race or training, no wind, 25-27 mph I am usually putting out around 400-450 watts to go that fast. Don't know if power can be measured on skates (maybe on treadmill) but I suspect the power output is similar. The issue on skates for me I build up lactic acid a lot faster on the skates. In short distances I can go faster on skates (38 mph unassisted but a very short time) than the bike (34-36 in un-assisted sprint max 20-30 seconds). Bottom line is you pro and ex-pro speed skaters are beasts!

[@RagnarTiiter]

You are a machine Sir 🫡

[@TigerRacingProducts]

Look into a "follow me" drone.

[@TheKomaras]

This is awesome!

[@rockandrollers]

Master!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Reanimator999]

Rollerblading is another great way to commute without car if you live in flat areas.

[@jacobpaint]

I wish I had KZbin when I used to skate 20yrs ago. I just had K2 recreational skates but I skated so much and had become quite fit but I skated alone and it never occurred to me to save up and buy better speed skates so I could try and race. I wonder how I much I could have improved. I skated for 6 months last year, thinking of getting some better skates and giving it another go before I’m too old to build the muscle (better to have the muscle by the time I’m too old than to have to build it then)

[@Aradel-u5n]

Wow, not only saving money for retirement, but building muscle for retirement.

[@jacobpaint]

@@Aradel-u5n I bought the better skates, Powerslide Next core, so far so good, they fit better and are much more fun to skate on. Building the muscle is going to take some time.

[@TheMadHatter1330]

Awesome video, perfect for me as stopped cycling track last year now full time fitness skating. How can you last so long without taking on any fuel or water ?? I would have needed 80g carbs and at least 500ml water for this effort.

[@JoeyMantiaSkates]

if it was serious training I would have brought nutrition. I definitely hit the wall on the way home from the track

[@marimoedmond]

wow, this video is awesome!

[@JoeyMantiaSkates]

Appreciate it 🙏

[@marimoedmond]

@@JoeyMantiaSkates you rock! Thank you.

[@Metadosis1]

I love this F channel!!

[@YosiOren]

gr8 video

[@yurioliveira4324]

You must practice your crossover to the right buddy. Congrats for the video btw

[@SwiftbladesMike]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@markbraverman8267]

Joey, awesome video. Two questions, if I may. 1) How does your speed on a bike compare to on skates at the same RPE? 2) Back in SLC in 2019 at a masters camp you said I was too quad dominant and you mentioned that in this video as well. Can you explain how to be less quad dominant and more glut and hip dominant? Thank you sir!

[@Artemis_Prix]

Hey Mark, I'm curious to see Joey's responses as well. But, I have compared my speed on skates relative to my mountain bike...same path using Strava...and I'm easily 1-1/2 mph faster on my skates no problem. It's surprising, but true. I'm no where near being a true competitor here, but I also love passing up bicyclists on the trails... they simply can't comprehend it. Have fun.

[@markbraverman8267]

@Artemis_Prix part of your differential could be due to it being a mountain bike. I am the other way around and wonder how much technique work I still have left to get what I can out of the skates.

[@Artemis_Prix]

@markbraverman8267 Fair point. I will mention I'm going all out on the mountain bike, but your point is well taken. Re other bikers, I can keep up with hybrid bikes, but if someone's riding a road bike, it's nearly impossible to keep up on my skates unless they're not very skilled. When I go out on trails with my friends, they're on their bikes, and I'm on my skates. That arrangement works out just fine. I prefer it that way. Try it and see how you do. You may like it as well.

[@markbraverman8267]

@Artemis_Prix it is no doubt fun to tuck into the draft of a paceline. I have done it a few times, and it is hard to argue with the free speed! It would just be awesome to make up the 3 mph difference on my skates to go the same speed as I can bike at the same RPE. Roll fast my friend.

[@bashirijones7008]

Anybody else see the dragon in the clouds at the beginning of the video (starts around 0:32)? Watch and it appears more and more.

[@GC-Roller]

Amazing video!, really nice watching you chasing bikes🤣😇. I like very much skating with bikes and in roads I fell safer with them around

[@ryanprasad2090]

That's ridiculous! And you are able to speak!

[@maxklimenko4582]

What are you using for speed and heart rate tracking?

[@EnglishRain]

Garmin watch.

[@katarzynasowinska5237]

Wow amazing :) respect

[@inlineextremertv]

Thank you for always sharing wonderful and enjoyable videos. ( - v - )b

[@thokar81]

I think a aero helmet would make you even faster. Not that vingegaard thing, but something else.

[@MercioGoenha]

What bearings are you using? And does it matter when comes to speed ?

[@divac5410]

When you have plenty of correct bearings in the market like abec 7, abec 9, ilq 7, ilq 9, it matters less than a good diet, a good body mass index, regular training with effective rest. Don't choose fancy bearing designs, and maintain them in good condition. HAVE FUN my friend. My set-up : PS Hardcore Evo (2018), 12,5 MG frame (3x125), FR Skates/Twincam MW9 Titalium bearings, RB hydrogen 125mm (85A).

[@DCPEvo]

I’m definitely impressed. How many laps do you think you could sustain the low 40s pace?

[@JoeyMantiaSkates]

With a race suit and a little base training quite a few. Under these conditions, not so much 😂

[@reggieronning7906]

Awesome video! You mentioned you like 30 to 40 mile rides. What is the most miles you have put on in a single day?

[@rayraythebrew2863]

Cool vids and all; I absolutely love roller skating, especially blading with the amount of freedom it offers. My question is though, why don't you ever wear any other kinds protection beyond just a helmet? Watched through a number of other videos and see that as a habit

[@JoeyMantiaSkates]

Just personal preference

[@sumer122889]

@@JoeyMantiaSkates I want to add to this question. Does it matter if its a bike or skate helmet? It gets especially hot here in summer and those bike helmets look way more open

[@vincentvangoethem8647]

@@sumer122889 Bike helmets are more made for a frontal crash, skate helmets provide better all around safety also when falling more to the side or back. That being said, all inline skaters I know wear the bike helmets for inline skating. The skate helmets are more used for aggressive inline skating or for beginners. (both tend to fall more backwards).

[@marimoedmond]

💯💯

[@grulple5863]

7:50 You could use "multi-modalist" Joey

[@chuck14111]

16:37 nobody will mention that black van completely wrong way in a park? 😳

[@TriconPOE]

Did you ever try wearing a cycling kit for aero gains?

[@gyuheecho]

멋진 스케이팅을 보여주네요...

[@EnglishRain]

Lmao the tailgating is crazy

[@randomdudefpv4927]

21:29 looked like some GTA6

[@viperdemonz-jenkins]

you got cyclist legs so of course you have the power to push that hard.

[@divac5410]

Your “Everyday is a leg day” t-shirt is really nice. Is it commercialized?

[@JoeyMantiaSkates]

I want to make some more, but I need to work out how to drop ship them. I was sending them all outta my house before and it was too much

[@dannyarcher6370]

In what way does having someone BEHIND you cause more drag?

[@JoeyMantiaSkates]

Because I weave side to side when skating there's a little drag from the 'draft bubble' being inconsistent. If I was on a bike and stayed perfectly behind him then it would have the opposite effect as far as I understand it. My gut tells me that even if the net drag is still in his favor by me being behind him (with the weaving), there would still be a small yoyo that maybe he'd feel and would want to avoid if doing TT training. I'm going to do some research and get back on that though. In the end, whether it's a net positive or net negative, I respect the fact he doesn't want anything affecting him when training

[@tanantish]

@@JoeyMantiaSkates I suspect it's because TTs are a solo discipline so if he's doing some serious training runs he's trying to lock in on what kind of conditions he'd be racing in. Having someone behind is something that's potentially off-putting (if he can hear your cadence for example), or a subconscious worry that he's going to need to consider your line if he's needing to pass someone in front, or brake hard etc. That's not generally (okay. it isn't) a mental load in a TT so you can zone in on the narrow cone in front and focus on cadence, breathing, power targets, all that other jazz as there's never anyone behind - in this context, I suspect that's more likely the reason he was feeling affected by having you there.

[@tsraponi]

do roller bladers do the toe flick at the end of each stride?

[@Gianluca_Inline]

You are the friend of Ari(The Stuttering Skater)?

[@FenwynFlies]

Anyone have a time stamp of Joey doing any slides or going vertical? Only ever seen T stops.

[@SwiftbladesMike]

Speed skaters: we dont do that here

[@lMarki]

Stupid question but.. how do you brake in an emergency?

[@teshaunminor]

Nice video 🫡😎

[@bornovac]

Joey please, which option you personaly favor for first 18 min of clip type of skating: 3 wheels, 4 wheels or 5 wheels ?

[@JoeyMantiaSkates]

I really like good speed wheels- 4x110. Speed is what I grew up doing so that's still the most fun style of skating, even in urban type environments

[@bornovac]

@@JoeyMantiaSkates great

[@TomB91381]

Why are you in Montreal? Great city too.

[@JoeyMantiaSkates]

Came here to help out with the Belgian short track team

[@crenabyssxx9289]

​@@JoeyMantiaSkates would you consider shooting more shorttrack footage?

[@switchrollinglife9980]

UAU !!! i LOVE THE FACE OF THE BIKERS LOOKING AT YOU PASSING HHAHAHAH

[@Safesaxjosh]

are these 4x110 wheels?

[@JoeyMantiaSkates]

yes, powerslide phoenix

[@lukeorlando4814]

I want to know how expensive your skates are and how the cyclist would compare on a similar priced bike. Heh.

[@JoeyMantiaSkates]

retail for my skates is probably in the $2000 range if I had to guess

[@lukeorlando4814]

@@JoeyMantiaSkates thx. I was thinking. My bicycle will happily cruise along at 22mph. In a sprint I have hit 36mph. But it’s a midrange road bike at about $4500cad

[@bugsbunny2716]

все небо в химртейлах (

[@ZavierBuckley-m6o]

Wsp

[@samanderson7745]

I'd love to see him come out to Colorado Springs and ride on the roads like this. I'm not so much concerned about the drivers but the roads, dear God, the roads in this town are brutal.

[@bloodsord9]

You're nice, but when youre on someone's wheel it's nice to ask if you can sit on. It's especially rude when you have a camera up their behind talking into it and not even saying hi

[@JoeyMantiaSkates]

I'll do better.

[@DM-yh6ok]

Link your Strava ride. Create a post on strava promoting your video.

[@JoeyMantiaSkates]

The strava is in the description... Is there a way to link to KZbin from Strava?

[@DM-yh6ok]

Create post in Strava, I think you would have to do one for every new video. Are you using a Polarizers filter? Some of the sunny skies are somewhat overexposed.

[@wallacegrommet9343]

Not even in a speedtuck

[@MsTatakai]

Rollerblades... at the time i used to try these all my friends removed the 2 wheels in the middle ... less friction = more speed and also was a must for grinding and tricks etc ... besides the tricks, deos it really 2 out of 4 wheels roller blades perform better than a all 4 wheels ?

[@JoeyMantiaSkates]

I'm not sure exactly, but my initial thought is that if you have your body weight distributed over 2 wheels vs 4 wheels, the 2 wheel setup would compress more and actually have more friction. In a simple roll test I think you would find that to be the case. The other things to consider are: 1. making that big of a gap between wheels will lower performance because there will be noticeably more flex in the frame and 2. because each wheel is taking on double the load (probably more when you consider the distance between them), you will likely slip a lot more than having all the wheels on your skate in the world of aggressive and doing tricks it makes a lot of sense, but for performance and efficiency I'm not sure

[@MsTatakai]

@@JoeyMantiaSkates Hmmm thank you very much !! yeah makes sense!

[@SKBKER]

Cyclists weren't trying .

[@Bernard_Ashtree]

The cyclist was on too low of gear...

[@skatography]

$500 skates vs $5000 bike 😂 off course it pisses them off if you pass them but that's all the more reason to enjoy it

[@deepanshusingh7765]

Bullying cyclist

[@PhoenixTVChannel]

Велосипедисты были в курсе, что ты был из оппонентом?

[@McCSFunk]

Название ролика тебе ни о чем неговорит? "Can I Keep Up?" Он и не соревновался с ними, а просто пытался удержаться

[@PhoenixTVChannel]

@@McCSFunk Roller vs CYCLISTS на пикче к видео

[@McCSFunk]

@@PhoenixTVChannel Ну никто как бы и не сомневается, что велосипед быстрее роликов в целом. Странно что вообще вопрос об этом встаёт.

[@FabiusPyromanus]

You are skating uncomfortable close to those cyclist. How about some social etiquette dude..

[@marimoedmond]

come on man. But he was trying to ride in their pack, that's how it is done🤷‍♂

[@JoeyMantiaSkates]

The camera makes it look closer than it is. Occasionally they smash the brakes and create a closure in the gap making it look really close, but im usually pretty far back

[@FabiusPyromanus]

@@JoeyMantiaSkates Ah okay. Thanks for clarifying.

[@anjak-k2w]

SPEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@blackcatjazzin]

Joey, I feel embarrassed, I Have Heard of you , just didn’t recognize your name right away, of course, you’re a champion………🫡