Single vs. Double-Push - MAX SPEED TEST - Inline Skating

[@yourdaddy9622]

Single push Double push P bush

[@iRollerboot]

😂😂😂

[@wheelsonfire1982]

What's p push?

[@Sr_LOQUITO]

It is not about moving your legs like this, rather about letting your weight fall on the shoulder where you rest the skate and that your body swings towards the opposite side, causing the momentum only with your body, and this is what saves energy in big marathons

[@iRollerboot]

🤝🤝

[@jakerios27]

I always thought speed skating is a funny style, but I’m also forgetting how fun it really is. Nothing is more satisfying skating backwards. Which I hope you make video about backward skating! Awesome video as always!

[@okthisisthelasttimeipromise]

Thanks Jake! I have a video on the channel here I did on skating backwards a couple months ago. You’ll see it on the channel “how to skate backwards”

[@theslowesthare4831]

I've always noticed something different with speed skaters' push but I never could put my finger on it. Just seemed to flow better, but didn't realize it's a different style.

[@okthisisthelasttimeipromise]

Ahhhh got it now.

[@jakerios27]

It’s like skipping for me at least I use to do it when I use jump stairs , but like you said I didn’t know it was style 😆

[@victorwong9622]

Wonderful commentary! Speed skating, wizard skating, aggressive… now we’d like to see your take on roller hockey!!

[@chrisspaulding9425]

Another great video. I just happened to see Joey's double push video the other day. You definitely want faster with the double, but I think it's most important benefit is the efficiency. Using both edges of the wheels and incorporating more muscles each push.

[@iRollerboot]

💯💯 totally. Thanks Chris! Joey is the goat.

[@bryce_is_Bryce]

Great analysis. Thanks for the interesting watch! 🤓

[@iRollerboot]

Thanks Bryce! 😎😎

[@Travis732]

I knew you were speeding on the trail 🤣 max speed 15mph. I never knew about pushing like that. I learned something new today.

[@iRollerboot]

😆😆👍👍

[@flyingonblades]

Those skates really fly! Maybe we can meet up with Joey when you visit Florida. We could hit the new Ocala skatepark and then meet him(assuming he still lives there)

[@iRollerboot]

That would be dope!

[@danielnewby2255]

I know you're in great shape relative to *most* of us, but it doesn't look like the inside stroke was 'complete'. Perhaps relatively weak adductors that can't pull your leg all the way across the midline while skating. That's something that should just develop over time if you do it more though, so I think this is a video completely worth revisiting when you have a little more time in skating double push in 2-3 months. Perhaps with a Garmin measuring FTP over both styles as a direct comparison. In my younger days I use to skate a two footed carve-weave that was just as fast on the wheels as a regular push, but wasn't skating a straight line -- I'm definitely not in shape or strong enough to do that anymore, it doesn't even feel good to do it again yet, but seeing this it would have had both the inside and outside skating motion on both legs, so it makes sense why it worked. And intuitively this seems like it would be more efficient since the heart doesn't have to shunt blood from leg to leg quite as fast.

[@iRollerboot]

Totally, was seeing that in the footage afterwards, thanks for the feedback Daniel!

[@nigelbrown2274]

interesting upload, thanks for making a comparison. I enjoy watching speedskating, I have also started looking at getting a better, more efficiant skating technique and therefore speed. Joey Mantia is an amazing Olympic athlete, so is Viktor Thorup, both have many uploads about the double push....

[@urbanrunoff]

i think the double push is also more efficient for long distance and make it much faster in the long run.

[@johnclark-g6m]

Joey Mantia might be a legend but Chad Hedrick will always be the GOAT, chad is the one that discovered and developed the double push back in the mid 90s.

[@marylandflyer5670]

I would say it’s a misnomer in that it’s not really a double push; it’s more of a single push with a better glide.

[@rol4life]

A longer frame will help with speed and your double push. Check out endless frames. One frame = 4x90 & 3x110

[@jessiecassio8349]

What he really needs is a 4x110

[@iRollerboot]

Definitely may look into a longer frame, just going to skate them stock for now. Thanks for the input!

[@BalaHormiga]

Chad hedrick ..5 x 80 record. Equipment is less important than skill. ​@@jessiecassio8349

[@paulblichmann2791]

I had already on my own developed the habit of rolling slightly to the outside edge on each new stride. Now, actually putting some power into the outside edge instead of just coasting before doing a normal push...THAT is gonna take some work.

[@GORILGLU]

🐐

[@ThePascalbriand]

Did you check the double push video tutorial from my channel? Cool video btw

[@iRollerboot]

Tbh I think i just looked at mantias. Thank you for the comment 👍👍

[@edwarddimmack8991]

@@iRollerboot Pascal’s videos are very good. Before you tried the double push you probably should have watched Pascal’s video on the referential theory.

[@mxnofear351]

how much more energy are you expending for the double push?

[@iRollerboot]

It’s actually more efficient and uses less energy when applied correctly. Marathon skaters use this technique to carry more speed with less effort.

[@dustypilgrimmedia8423]

Do you need a smart watch? I'm training for ice cross, I crash a lot but mph tracking would be nice. My phone is pretty bulletproof but watches are kind of out if the question I think

[@jessiecassio8349]

That first reading was a fluke. I get 30mph with Strava sometimes and it's when the app can't get a GPS reading and comes back it's wildly off. The 3rd reading is probably the most accurate

[@iRollerboot]

Thanks Jessie 👍👍

[@juliusrieda8286]

I call it the trouble push, cuz everytime I try to do it correctly I get into trouble :D

[@alexstewart4045]

I seriously have no clue what’s going on here, but I’m fascinated because I know I can do it and I rollerblade everyday I just cannot tell the difference between the 2 hasn’t clicked yet lol

[@jfree100]

Wouldn't average speed be a fairer measure and less prone to Strava GPS glitches? Looking at your average speeds, wasn't single push faster? Cool video. You're exceptionally fast regardless!

[@rufenstein]

I had the same though and when you take the average numbers and average them later single push gets 16.1 mph and double gets 15.3 mph

[@andre1987eph]

How many total years have you been skating?

[@Casual_BackPacking]

Interesting

[@Unphaized]

Double push looks majestically better man

[@claudiolambertini7280]

It's interesting but I think you need to carefully evaluate tiredness: you are not using inline skate made for running, they are less efficient and it is more difficult; double push is very effective over long distances because it allows for greater recovery time between one push and the next, at the same time it requires to stay longer in a aerodynamic position. If you can tried it with different inline skate, with shoe and not boot, 4 wheels instead of 3 etc... I think it will be easier and probably you'll find greater differences.

[@Oddyssey369]

i dont know man from your side it look the same, leg doesnt goes toomuch in =\

[@RenoSpeedSkater]

double push is just another gear you use when your skating. the better skater you become the more gears you have.

[@stigzroom]

U should take those to the Skate Park and get mad air bro.... double push then stair roll ohhhhhhhhh

[@iRollerboot]

Thinking I just may!

[@alfdj]

For sure the 30 mph doble push is a wrong measure. Skating like that with those skates I doubt you can reach that speed

[@dougbantz]

You might want to get some lower cut speed skates to effectively do the double push - those high cuffs aren’t letting you edge the way you need to. You need to get out on your outside edges and a high boot just doesn’t allow for the right technique.

[@iRollerboot]

Thank you for the advice

[@Stepanmc]

Strava on mobile phones is very not accurate. When I switched to smart watch with GPS - I found that all that beautiful high speeds from phone were just wrong readings when Strava was pointing me out of trail and then back, which was creating a sudden increase of speed. I recommend to do this test with some Garmin device.

[@feutrierthierry]

🤣😅

[@krultorwaru121]

Before you do the comparison you should learn to double push properly. You’re just scratching the surface of the technique and no wonder the difference is so small.