Rolls Royce Silver Spirit II - Is a used classic Rolls worth the risk? - BEARDS n CARS

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HSG Automotive

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Rolls-Royce is easily one of the most respected names in automotive history, and with models like this Silver Spirit 2 hitting modern markets for a fraction of their original prices, the temptation of owning such driving royalty is palpable.
But with massive potential for hidden costs, are these legendary cars worth the risk of buying on the used market? Let's review the Rolls-Royce Silver Spirit 2 and find out...
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@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
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@mscott3918
@mscott3918 3 жыл бұрын
I'm in my mid sixties and have been a Rolls Royce driver for more than 40 years. I've owned a Silver Cloud III for 39 years, as the second owner. I drive it most days and was advised that every pound spent on petrol saves five pounds in maintenance. They like being used.
@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, good to hear that an icon lasts as well as you'd hope
@mscott3918
@mscott3918 4 жыл бұрын
I'd say that a classic Rolls Royce is infinitely superior to anything in the current Rolls Royce range. They look like bricks filled with over complicated electronics and silly things like the starlight roof. They certainly aren't made with the traditional Rolls Royce buyers in mind. I have owned a 1965 Silver Cloud III for 38 years. It is regularly serviced and properly maintained. I drive it most days, it starts first time and I have only had one major problem with it, a new cylinder head gasket. Yes, they are expensive to maintain, but I don't think they are as expensive as say the new Phantom. Any good mechanic can deal with it. My advice would be to buy one that has had one, possibly two owners. I think the problems start when they are bought by someone who can afford the purchase price but not the maintenance, so things are done as cheaply as possible. Properly cared for they just keep going. I'm 64 and don't suppose I will have another car.
@cadz4me
@cadz4me 2 жыл бұрын
Hello! Thank you for your comment. I’m just behind you in age, (I’m 61) & I’m currently considering the purchase of a 1965 RR Cloud III like yours!! It’s a two owner since new motor car & has a full service history with it & has only travelled 106,000 miles since new. I’m so tempted to purchase it but am half terrified about maintenance costs & reliability! Having read that you’ve owned your lovely lady for 38 years seems to indicate your love & dedication to these spectacular & PROPER Rolls Royces!! Is there anything in particular you’d recommend I should look out for in this model?? Thank you for your time & may you continue to enjoy your beautiful Rolls!! 🙏
@quined6421
@quined6421 2 жыл бұрын
ok boomer
@OffGridInvestor
@OffGridInvestor Жыл бұрын
Considering the JUNK engines BMW makes, I think you're right. You get a few years on a BMW and they're just complete junk. Now they're owned by BMW with a German CEO probably essentially taking orders from BMW upper management
@OffGridInvestor
@OffGridInvestor Жыл бұрын
@@quined6421 you've obviously never talked to a mechanic who deals with BMWs which us what rolls ESSENTIALLY ARE now. They get to 10 years old, sometimes less fir the 1 series and they're JUNK with multiple stupid issues. The amount of low quality plastics in the engine parts are ASTOUNDING not to mention the ALUMINIUM HEAD VOLTS which break off inside the block and then blow the head gasketsoon after. Only $11,000 to fix the BOLTS ALONE.
@marlonquintana3466
@marlonquintana3466 11 ай бұрын
What are your thoughts on a 1999 Rolls Royce Silver Seraph that has 43600 on the odometerm? I would greatly appreciate a response.
@michaelcampbell4503
@michaelcampbell4503 3 жыл бұрын
Decent summary of the pros and cons of owning such a vehicle. You are absolutely right about the steering and braking.. I bought a 1990 Bentley Turbo R for £8k a year ago, have loved driving it for a year trouble free, 13-15 mpg, starts first time. The driving experience is unique, bewitching, relaxing, fast, serene. Nothing else on the road goes like it or feels like it. It is a rolling statement of intent fulfilled. For this addiction you have to pay, handsomely. It now needs £25k to replace the gas suspension, fix the engine oil leaks, replace the brakes, fix the electric seats, new aircon, fix central locking, replace the exhaust, refurb the wheels, fit a decent period stereo and speakers and service. Should I sell it, probably. Will I keep it and have the work done, definitely.
@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, nice one
@frankmarter6845
@frankmarter6845 2 жыл бұрын
If an electric computer module goes out you will not be able to find a replacement so the car could be undriveable. You might find someone who could rebuild the old unit if you are lucky. Computer modules don’t last 30 years. Even 20 in some cases.
@jaykemeneses3261
@jaykemeneses3261 4 жыл бұрын
This is the first video of yours I have watched - I love the 80s and 90s Rolls Royce's and Bentleys - your review is raw honesty which I appreciate, as most videos focus on the beauty with little mention of the negatives or downsides. I do feel classic cars are appealing to more people in their 30s and 40s who want something different with soul and character.
@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive 4 жыл бұрын
Jayke Meneses Thanks, glad you enjoyed it 👍
@kenherrera2819
@kenherrera2819 2 жыл бұрын
I've owned two "Proper Motor Cars", a 1975 Silver Shadow and a 1988 Silver Spur and loved both of them. The best advice I received from a fellow RR Club member: "You may be buying a 20-thousand dollars used car, but remember you are servicing a 150-thousand dollar car!" Proper service is extremely expensive, something any prospective owner must keep in mind. If you are prepared for the service costs you will love your car, if not you will be looking to sell it as soon as possible. Oh, and don't buy the cheapest you can find, buy the most expensive you can afford because the cheap ones will come with lots of pre-existing problems while the expensive ones, with service records, have usually been well maintained and will last many tens of thousands of miles.
@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, a similar thing applies with my car, the Maserati QP. Buying one and keeping one in the condition which it deserves are very different prospects, haha
@peterhyland1728
@peterhyland1728 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and v accurate commentary. I owned an '82 Spirit for 11 yrs and recently traded it in on a '94 Spirit III. - 2 very different cars to drive! - Both a delight and in 2021, admirers are a plenty! A couple of well known adages from here in the land of Oz - * If you can't afford a new RR, then you can't afford a 2nd hand classic one either. * You might not need deep pockets to buy a classic RR, but you'll need them to maintain one. * These cars need to travel at least 20 miles every 20 days - they are not meant to be on display shelves. * If you can afford a RR, then the cost of fuel is incidental. * If it doesn't leak oil, it's not an English classic. In my opinion, classic English cars are a delight, with RRs at the top of the tree.
@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
Nice one, thanks for sharing 👍
@Mike-br8zt
@Mike-br8zt 2 жыл бұрын
Are you a member of the RR Owners Club? I am based on NSW.
@peterhyland1596
@peterhyland1596 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mike-br8zt Hi Mike - Yes, Im the ACT Branch President of the RROCA
@Mike-br8zt
@Mike-br8zt 2 жыл бұрын
@@peterhyland1596 Good to know. I live in the Camden area and I have noticed a few Rolls-Royce cars driving around the area. I am looking at purchasing a Silver Shadow or Silver Spirit (cars of my youth). I did once live near to the Crewe RR & Bently factory and would often see the cars being driven around on a test run.
@charlesmacgilchrist3648
@charlesmacgilchrist3648 2 жыл бұрын
The cheapest new RR is about £250,000. I thought £15k for a good spirit £4k a year to maintain and the same in emergency fund would be more the mark.
@mrvincentpcspes
@mrvincentpcspes Жыл бұрын
I have a 1967 Silver Shadow Coupe and a 1985 Silver Spirit. I have owned them for 30 years and they are fabulous lifetime automobiles. Couldn't imagined a great life without them. So many great memories.
@andrewcahill2991
@andrewcahill2991 Жыл бұрын
I got a question. I live in Philadelphia and im shopping for a car. I come across a 1982 Rolls Royce Silver Spirit. For 6500 looks very clean i wanna buy it but im scared what do i need to look out for mechanic wise
@rkw92262
@rkw92262 8 ай бұрын
wondering what you did, did you buy it? I had an 82 Spirit, what color was the one you looked at? @@andrewcahill2991
@HughFeatherstone
@HughFeatherstone 3 жыл бұрын
"grasp the thin-rimmed, massive steering wheel, kinda turn it roughly in the direction that you want to go and the car begins to think about joining you on that journey at some point in the near future" ... yessss, brilliant! that bump you heard was me falling off my chair! you just described all the RR&B cars of that decade with the exception of the bentley turbo r.
@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, glad it gave you a chuckle
@asa1973100
@asa1973100 9 ай бұрын
My mom drives a 69 Silver shadow daily to do her shopping as she’ll only buy fresh goods…. cost about £30 a week in fuel and so far over 20 years she’s spent about 8k on repairs and parts .
@rkw92262
@rkw92262 8 ай бұрын
Very cool. If they're driven daily, they'll last forever, very cool your Mom has one, what color is it?
@t9j6c6j51
@t9j6c6j51 3 жыл бұрын
Great video mate. Had a Bentley Turbo R and a GT Continental in the past. Just got a 68 Bentley T two door. Gorgeous car and very rare but it feels like it was built on a different planet. They aren’t for the average person, but in my opinion nothing else comes close and they are worth every cent.
@jjefferyworboys8138
@jjefferyworboys8138 3 жыл бұрын
A love classic RR's and Bentleys, good ones are joy bad ones a nightmare. Buy the very best you can afford, it's far cheaper in the long run. A Spirit 11 drives nicely and fuel injection was a significant improvement. The most important point you made is that you must have a passion for the brand. This looks like a very decent car in an attractive colour combination, someone will be lucky.
@manofthehour6856
@manofthehour6856 2 жыл бұрын
This is a professional, exceptionally well-explained and articulated profile of a Silver Spirit. Excellent!
@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers, glad you enjoyed 👍
@georgeskiener7709
@georgeskiener7709 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Spur II and there is nothing like it: magic!
@collinreesejones5525
@collinreesejones5525 2 жыл бұрын
ABSOLUTELY know everything RR, but watching because you obviously Love them too!!
@TheSoupdragon1968
@TheSoupdragon1968 3 жыл бұрын
You can buy an off the shelf handling kit for it. It's made by Harvey Bailey, and really makes a difference. Probably a set of harder pads and a brake service would see it drive very nicely...
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 Жыл бұрын
It handles well enough with active ride functional.
@sterlingd9035
@sterlingd9035 3 жыл бұрын
Go for it and enjoy Nothing like a Rolls-royce Rolls
@Dave5400
@Dave5400 2 жыл бұрын
I think you used about 3 gallons just revving in the intro! In all seriousness though, I definitely fancy one at some point. Couldn't quite believe it when I realised you could get a decent one for £15k and from what I've read, so long as they're well maintained, it's good value for money (minus the fuel...). Anyway, thanks for the informative video!
@nycupperes
@nycupperes Жыл бұрын
Thought about it, but the 2019 BMW 740Li made much more sense. Equal interior space, better engine and styling and if I need to do over 100 mph on occasion, it’s completely stable.
@andabossftw
@andabossftw 4 жыл бұрын
I'm 16 and turning 17 in December. I want to buy one of these as my first car and I'm happy there's an in-depth video a bit the silver spirit
@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive 4 жыл бұрын
AndaBoss Nice one. Might wanna check out a Silver Shadow as well 👌
@andabossftw
@andabossftw 4 жыл бұрын
@@HSGAutomotive I have but I think they are a bit too dated for my personal taste, still a class car though. I'll probably get the Silver Spirit I as they are cheaper than the II
@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive 4 жыл бұрын
AndaBoss The primary differences between them are some of the dashboard tech, the weight, and the turning circle.
@StarSlugz
@StarSlugz 3 ай бұрын
@@andabossftwdid you ever buy the Silver Spirit I’m 17 now and interested in one that has 56K mileage
@billymoore8731
@billymoore8731 3 жыл бұрын
A cheap rolls is the most expensive thing u can buy
@DeltaDubai03
@DeltaDubai03 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. I liked the "angle/who's the potential buyer". Very well done.
@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it
@johnathangregg9127
@johnathangregg9127 Жыл бұрын
A small goal of mine is to own a Rolls Royce at some point in my life. I’m so glad affordable ones exist
@OffGridInvestor
@OffGridInvestor Жыл бұрын
But like everyone here says, the repairs are like a new BIG Mercedes, cost wise.
@rkw92262
@rkw92262 8 ай бұрын
RR repairs are about 3 x what MB repairs are, from my experience. @@OffGridInvestor
@Shane55able
@Shane55able 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely sublime. A beautiful example of a phenomenal automobile. Class. 👌
@boomboys9425
@boomboys9425 4 ай бұрын
You summed up my thought process perfectly in the beginning
@LuizaooDrifter
@LuizaooDrifter Жыл бұрын
I'm actually in my early 20's and thinking about getting an older Rolls Royce as a daily driver as an alternative to a Mercedes S Class. I have a few classic cars but i'm a bit tired of fast and loud cars and want to get into more luxurious cars
@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive Жыл бұрын
Similar boat myself and ended up having two classic Lincoln's currently. Many classic American luxury cars are a lot cheaper than a Rolls, and in many cases superior for their time, especially in the 50s and 60s
@joachimwrang-widen5366
@joachimwrang-widen5366 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for informative video. Good introduction for those who are thinking of "doing it". Upgrading the brakes to all-disc brakes [11:20] was done already in 1965 on the Silver Shadow so if this Silver Spirit II has drum rear brakes, someone has been very naughty. The front discs have two calipers each, the rear single calipers each. On both my TurboRL I find the brakes are not as featherlight to operate as I'd like but they do stop the car very well even if driven at speed and with gusto if the system is properly maintained and the car frequently used. The best way to own these cars is to use them frequently. Sitting still in a garage is usually why they start leaking and the minor and major niggles appear. One piece of advice: "There is nothing as expensive as a buying a cheap Bentley/Rolls-Royce". The ones priced at GBP7,000-8,000 are usually many-owner cars where each owner could afford to buy the car and drive it but not service and maintain it properly. Avoid these. Buy the best one you can afford (preferably from a club member) and, as stated in the video, keep a buffer for potential unexpected repairs. And remember: there is no depreciation left to worry about. Ergo, the depreciation costs can be reallocated to the fuel account. I've never regretted buying my first car - a Bentley - 22 years ago and once you've tried one of these Crewe cars, you will probably like it too. They are addictive.
@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
Nice one, thanks for dropping in
@johnbledsoe5453
@johnbledsoe5453 3 жыл бұрын
I just purchased a 1990 Silver Spur II. The brakes take getting used to the feel. There’s some brake travel but a quick grab.
@powerglory4022
@powerglory4022 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve owned my 1990 Spur II for five years. It’s glorious and hope your experience is the same.
@johnbledsoe5453
@johnbledsoe5453 3 жыл бұрын
Had my 1990 Silver Spur II in the shop for various R & M. biggest (and costliest), I had to have the heater core replaced. A couple of the hydraulic cylinders had to be replaced. Did a tuneup, oil change, and transmission service. The last three items were maintenance items and not too expensive. Now, I just need the recovery container for the engine coolant. The plastic cracked. The items I replaced were items that infrequently break. Those items get replaced every 30 years. My Rolls is 31 years old. The interior looks very good. The seats and headliner was redone and look brand new. I’m sure I’ll find other things to do with Elizabeth (my Rolls). I’m a member of the local chapter of RROC. One does not have to own a Rolls or a Bentley to be a member of the Rolls Royce Owners Club (RROC). I look forward to going to RROC get togethers and talking with other enthusiasts about their automobiles and Rolls Royce in general.
@johnbledsoe5453
@johnbledsoe5453 3 жыл бұрын
T. Bovingdon: I neglected to thank you for the kind response to my thoughts. I look at my Rolls as a statement “toy piece”. The statement: a Rolls Royce expresses, one is content with their life. The refinanced mortgage (for your children’s education) is paid off. Your spouse has retired. You’ve cut back your work hours (retired). Also other responsibilities that are not required. The Rolls is for fun. How fun to go to dinner with friends in the Rolls?
@frankmarter6845
@frankmarter6845 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you don’t need a computer module. You probably won’t find one. 90 is the first year to have them.
@ttm2609
@ttm2609 5 ай бұрын
What a great review, it raises questions for people considering any modern classic, great work and thank you for posting
@redrocker1055
@redrocker1055 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of components are actually GM, transmission & air conditioning system, for example. If I were to buy a vintage uber luxury car a mid 70's-early 90's Rolls would be my personal choice.
@flymeaway1216
@flymeaway1216 3 жыл бұрын
the suspension is just dreamy and the steering is also dreamy but that’s cause it’s just a rolls royce but it’s just a great car for the price to be honest
@jerrycallender9927
@jerrycallender9927 Жыл бұрын
I'm LUVIN' your commentary - the steering thinking 'bout joining you..and the brakes considering acquiescing ...
@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive Жыл бұрын
Haha cheers
@jerrycallender9927
@jerrycallender9927 Жыл бұрын
@@HSGAutomotive I watch and enjoy your videos from Tucson, Arizona USA. I'm looking to treat myself to a Bentley Continental R or a Rolls Royce Coupe for my next birthday.
@warringtonminge4167
@warringtonminge4167 10 ай бұрын
I have a Spur, the stretched version of this one, and at nearly 40 years old, it's by a margin the best new or used car I have ever owned and the best 'seven large' I ever spent. My first ever super lux car, let alone a Royce though I had a supercharged Merc before this. All the viewing height of a modern SUV, at 6ft tall.it has all the space I need with headroom to spare and then some. Compare with spending 3 or 4 times as much on a "normal brand" new car, let alone an awful BEV, it's no contest, not even close. And I bought it with a 50% buffer which I haven't needed, not yet anyhow, and still have that to spare. Nice and simple, drives like what it is, a gorgeous drive, restful, comfortable, power "sufficient" but be aware it's not far short of 3tons kerb weight so you have to think ahead for braking. But any good driver does that anyhow, it's no penance. Think of it like the Transits and sub-HGV rigids I used to drive, think ahead. Yes I've spent less than a handful of £hundred in a year and a half (including the suspension spheres) but no more than my 20 year old daily use car has cost me. If I had to lose one of my cars the Royce will not leave my driveway. If you can find a good one (maybe at auction?) I'd recommend it just for the sheer joy of following the winged lady down the road. Just don't spend all your brass on the car (even a Royce) keep a decent slug in reserve just in case. 😇
@warringtonminge4167
@warringtonminge4167 10 ай бұрын
Should mention that my local "back street garage" has absolutely no problem looking after it. It's pure engineering with none of the modern tricky BS that makes modern cars so impossibly expensive to maintain for even the simplest fault or niggle. Just saying😉
@guidogos6031
@guidogos6031 4 жыл бұрын
I never thought you would be driving a claasic Rolls. 👍
@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive 4 жыл бұрын
Guido Gos Me neither, not this soon at least 😂🤙
@johnbledsoe5453
@johnbledsoe5453 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. Just purchased a 1990 Silver Spur II.
@frankmarter6845
@frankmarter6845 2 жыл бұрын
They are wonderful cars but you will never stop fixing them.
@garysandiego
@garysandiego 3 жыл бұрын
Sensible review. Clearly one needs to shop for a good mechanic with RR experience before shopping for the car.
@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
I'd agree yeah, and thanks
@simonnorcliffe5877
@simonnorcliffe5877 2 жыл бұрын
Fabulous video 📹 👌 👏
@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad you enjoyed!
@Episcopalianacolyte
@Episcopalianacolyte 2 жыл бұрын
1958 Silver Cloud 1 would be my choice.
@brianredmond4919
@brianredmond4919 3 жыл бұрын
The magic of a name and that iconic radiator grill . Somehow Bentley version not the same panache tho more discrete.
@EEnnisjr
@EEnnisjr Ай бұрын
I have owned a number of them. If newer than 1965, you will have problems to 1989. From 1990, buy a Rollback if you plan on getting anywhere. The only thing RR was good at was making high quality interiors with high grade leather, and beautiful wood. When broken down, you can always sit and enjoy the comfort and beautiful interior while you are waiting for a Rollback. No kidding. Still better than the BMW knockoffs!
@AlanGeorgeBates-oj9zr
@AlanGeorgeBates-oj9zr Жыл бұрын
It's a great car for a wedding and well refined ride a classic car look after it . this is a driver 's car a lovely car for those who love morning with class.
@MrRooibos123
@MrRooibos123 3 жыл бұрын
POV I'm about to make a very bad decision
@abigailbarber9806
@abigailbarber9806 Ай бұрын
Same here
@mw8653
@mw8653 2 жыл бұрын
A customer at a garage I worked in sold his Silver Spirit because he got fed up with vandels scratching the paintwork.
@cleanpaws4805
@cleanpaws4805 3 жыл бұрын
As long as you can do your own work. These cars have a high maintenance braking system that has license from the French company citron. It is extremely temperamental and complicated. The braking system and self leveling system are one. The main brake pumps are located inside the engine running off the camshaft. If some reason the pumps fail the entire top of the engine must be taken off to repair the pumps and it will cost thousands to do so. If you have the budget to have a professionally maintained go for it otherwise stay away from this car at all costs!!!! I speak from experience I used to have a silver shadow.
@paulrchapman1
@paulrchapman1 3 жыл бұрын
I think what you write is just not correct. A castellated tool will unscrew the brake pumps and they can be resealed, the push rods replaced, re- shimmed without extensive dismantling.
@cleanpaws4805
@cleanpaws4805 3 жыл бұрын
Again if you do your own work that’s fine , And I’m sorry I don’t agree you do need to dismantle part of the engine on the top to get to the brake pumps.. furthermore taking it to a specialist as when they RR badge will be charge anywhere from $200 to 300 per hour. A complete overhaul of the system eight to $10,000. As mentioned I speak from experience. I went to many many different shops all with the same outcome. The transmission and the engine are wonderful but that braking system is the Achilles’ heel of the car.. like I said if you do your own work OK but the average guy simply cannot afford to maintain this cars!
@paulrchapman1
@paulrchapman1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this, but the description of the pumps being inside the engine is surely inaccurate. They are removable from the top ( with a little more disassembly needed for the one nearer the windscreen) The system is similar to the Citroën arrangement and as we know, RR bought the rights to use it. I have had DS and ID Citroëns for over 50 years, as well as more recently my Silver Spirit. The vast experience these companies have with high pressure hydraulics, especially with LHM as opposed to the brake fluid or RR 363 ( which is hydroscopic and corrosive if in contact with paintwork) practically guarantees reliability in the braking and suspension systems. I have had no trouble whatsoever with brake component failure with either make of car. I don’t believe that they are the Achilles heel, though perhaps Shadows experience more problems than their green fluid successors. It is interesting to me how we differ so much in our opinions on the same subject!
@cleanpaws4805
@cleanpaws4805 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulrchapman1yup we differ. Thx for yr input. I miss my shadow, replaced with a Mazda Miata😝 completely carefree and that’s the way I like it.🤓
@paulrchapman1
@paulrchapman1 3 жыл бұрын
@@cleanpaws4805 And I bought a Lexus! (Two of them actually)
@weightlessliving9856
@weightlessliving9856 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant overview of these great cars. Just one small observation, a Rolls has a 6 3/4 (Six and three quarter) liter engine not a 6.75 (Six point seven five) liter engine. 😂😂
@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
Potatoes potatoes, lol
@floribertosousa2251
@floribertosousa2251 3 жыл бұрын
Great video on a Great Car. Thank you !!!
@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure, glad you enjoyed it
@dougbelanger3479
@dougbelanger3479 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, glad I watched it. Your description of the types of people who consider buying a Rolls sounds right. I have been looking at them for a while now, will buy one after my new garage is finished (the other 7000 square foot building is stuffed). Good point with the retrofit idea, had not thought of that. I have heard these are expensive to repair which, I assume is why you can buy them here in the States for reasonable money. I am leaning towards a Shadow II from the late seventies. They look more like what I think a traditional Rolls should be. What is your opinion of the 77-80 models compared to the one you drove in this video?
@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
This is my only hands-on experience with a Rolls for full exposure, but I do like the appearance of the older models if nothing else. It has an almost British muscle car shape.
@dougbelanger3479
@dougbelanger3479 3 жыл бұрын
@@HSGAutomotive Well, if you have only driven one, that is still more of them than I have!
@georgeskiener7709
@georgeskiener7709 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Spur II in perfect condition. The brakes are better than you describe. Yes, you have to push the pedal down, but the reaction is there. Emergency braking is easy. I put on average 200 km per week.
@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
The key phrase there being ‘perfect condition’. Which most aren’t. And which most buyers shouldn’t be expecting.
@olivier-pierredebelmont.3630
@olivier-pierredebelmont.3630 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you bro!
@aidan.w.carolan
@aidan.w.carolan 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, great look. Tell me , are you very tall or is the interior kind of small?
@pesamas0000
@pesamas0000 2 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏🌷🌷🌷🥰🥰🥰 thankyou for goodness review lovely too sir.
@edwarda8451
@edwarda8451 11 ай бұрын
By all means yes, it most certainly is worth it.
@lemoparis
@lemoparis 4 жыл бұрын
Nice review, you're spot on. How tall are you if I may ask? Do you think this car will travel at 100 mph in silence and comfort (I'm German) with the 3 speed Auto?
@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive 4 жыл бұрын
I’m 6’3 (190cm) and as far as the travelling: It will definitely be comfortable. The engine isn’t necessary “silent”, but it does sound good. A faint rumble.
@PeterCox-k1w
@PeterCox-k1w 4 ай бұрын
I've been chewing over such a purchase, a last hurrah so to say. But the greed of insurers, parts and repairers as well as all those vandel makes me say no
@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive 4 ай бұрын
It's not to most RR fans' taste, but I would strongly recommend looking into some of the classic American equivalents of the time, in particular the Lincoln Continental. I've had a 1968 model for a couple of years now and it was so far ahead of anything we had in terms of build, comfort and certainly road presence. Plus prices are far lower, both to buy and live with. Plus I now also have a Mk1 1973 Silver Shadow which is being heavily modified for a project and even that only ran 10 mpg compared to the American's 12. For people who care about the badge more than anything it won't win you over, but for those who care more about what the car can actually do, Cadillacs and Lincolns from the 50s-70s in particular are very hard to outclass in the luxury segment. My own '68 being a prime example, disc brakes on the front as standard, unibody design like Rolls-Royce also uses, full six seatbelts and electric seats and windows from the factory, auto dipping headlights, and the aforementioned fuel use despite being nearly a litre larger than the Shadow and with 120 bhp more. Its also around 10 inches wider, almost two feet longer and still weighs about the same as the Rolls. We often joke about Yank motors, but before the fuel crisis of the 70's they really were leading the world. And I only paid 10k for mine. (Review of both of my Lincolns are here on the channel too in Beards 'n Cars, magnificent machines)
@charinkatiwong6778
@charinkatiwong6778 5 ай бұрын
Wow wow​ Excellent​
@gglen2141
@gglen2141 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not seeing it as a daily driver. No reason it can't, but 13 mpg, even if you can afford it, is kinda silly. As second car, yes.
@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
Similar situation to using a Bentley Conti GT as a daily. Price, fuel and perks are similar, along with the downsides
@noobrefinisher5443
@noobrefinisher5443 Жыл бұрын
Ive been looking at the gt 86 I'm not sure why tho but coming across one of these I've been debating if this would be a more enjoyable vehicle to drive, just bring happiness while owning and using
@paulcafferkey865
@paulcafferkey865 Жыл бұрын
Just gorgeous
@LG-hf8ni
@LG-hf8ni 4 жыл бұрын
That car would be such a nice project car, sadly its hard to get them in germany
@thedaimlerden
@thedaimlerden 3 жыл бұрын
Naja so schlimm ists jetzt eigentlich nicht🤔
@HughFeatherstone
@HughFeatherstone 3 жыл бұрын
i have a lovely 1986 bentley eight for sale, here in belgium, just 20 km from aachen. i'm only selling because i also own a bentley turbo r and my wife has a gun to my head ...
@joesmith9483
@joesmith9483 3 жыл бұрын
I could never afford to fix that thing and the cost wouldn't justify what it is worth.
@romanetoussaint1914
@romanetoussaint1914 3 жыл бұрын
I need the white one and my house
@colinashby3775
@colinashby3775 3 жыл бұрын
Video is for me
@paulcafferkey865
@paulcafferkey865 Жыл бұрын
Man u got this beautiful mac
@paulcafferkey865
@paulcafferkey865 Жыл бұрын
Bro you look good iaftert u buy high end look after it great man
@T-41
@T-41 Жыл бұрын
One doesn’t “own “ a classic Rolls like one owns appliance-like cars. Instead , you have the privilege of serving as a caretaker who eventually extends the privilege to another caretaker.
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 Жыл бұрын
Rubbish! I OWN four and they belong to ME.
@blockhead7862
@blockhead7862 4 жыл бұрын
You remind me so much of the hypnotist from little Britain
@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive 4 жыл бұрын
Jesse Lingard Hah, that’s a new one. Usually I get Braun Strowman or Rag n Bone man xD
@blockhead7862
@blockhead7862 4 жыл бұрын
HSG Automotive yeah mate, you even talk really similar 😁. Nice review btw
@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive 4 жыл бұрын
Jesse Lingard Cheers, lol
@vargapa101
@vargapa101 Жыл бұрын
Rolls is made for the owner sitting in the back. So technically if one buys and drives an old one, they are not used according to the intent of car's creators.
@banaani-ec3nv
@banaani-ec3nv 3 жыл бұрын
my dream i wishd id had s320 silversprit and audi a8
@abuhamza1970
@abuhamza1970 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid, add another sis scribes to the list
@acersalman8258
@acersalman8258 Жыл бұрын
beautiful ❤
@jasonheaton-hy8es
@jasonheaton-hy8es 2 ай бұрын
Your test car must be in need of urgent attention, steering is rack and pinion and therefore very accurate and the brakes employ 6 calipers and are powered NOT assisted and will stand the car on its nose. The suspension springs are roughly 3 feet tall uncompressed so if you’re not expecting a floaty ride you’re in the wrong type of car
@midas1929
@midas1929 2 жыл бұрын
I look at new cars and would have to dish out CHF 80 k for a fully loaded, boring new car with a 4 cylinder vacuum cleaner engine and plastic inside. Or I can have something special and fun by spending 50 k of that amount on maintenance and repairs during the next 10 years. Yes, I could buy a Toyota, but that's like having a love affair with my tax accountant.
@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
I’m the same with my used cars. Is a Bentley more of a risk than a brand new hatchback? Sure, but it’s a Bentley 🤪
@2490debrick
@2490debrick 3 жыл бұрын
Defo should have stopped at the mark 3 the mark 4 is terrible...
@stringer-ik1pc
@stringer-ik1pc 3 жыл бұрын
Thank god many people dismiss them as being too costly. Otherwise we'd see them on council estates with people with tattoos driving them.
@chrisjohnson6876
@chrisjohnson6876 3 жыл бұрын
THAT steering wheel, what were they thinking??...spoils what is a beautiful interior
@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
It is a little bus-esque
@chrisjohnson6876
@chrisjohnson6876 3 жыл бұрын
@@HSGAutomotive LoL...its more about whats inside the rim, rather than the diameter. It looks like its from a Toyota Corolla from the seventies
@jfro5867
@jfro5867 3 жыл бұрын
Yea it’s awful. I was expecting some dainty chrome and black affair more in keeping with the rest of the dash/interior. It’s dreadful.
@midas1929
@midas1929 2 жыл бұрын
Fit a Nardi wheel. Problem solved.
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 Жыл бұрын
@@midas1929 Nardi wheels look like a cheap aftermarket add on.
@paulcafferkey865
@paulcafferkey865 Жыл бұрын
Agree its a expensive still beuitful
@specialforces101
@specialforces101 2 жыл бұрын
How tall are you? The driving position looks cramped?
@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
6’3, but no plenty of room
@specialforces101
@specialforces101 2 жыл бұрын
@@HSGAutomotive Thanks. So the headroom is acceptable but not generous. I understand that the Mk IV added an inch in the rear when its seats were redesigned.
@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
@@specialforces101 Yeah I definitely didn’t feel cramped. I think some of the space is offset by the lower camera angle as well
@mistersomaru
@mistersomaru 3 жыл бұрын
the only issue I'd have with owning a rolls is the mineral oil systems. Dealing with a dinosaur of an engine is no problem, even if it's a rolls made, in the states, but that mineral oil system just looks like a disaster waiting to happen
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 Жыл бұрын
Skills are lacking in the US.
@mistersomaru
@mistersomaru Жыл бұрын
@@byteme9718 it's simply a not too common vehicle in the states, so knowledge is spread thinner, and the mineral oil system is a known weak point, since a number of the car's vital functions rely on it.
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 Жыл бұрын
​@@mistersomaru The mineral systems are not a weak point, they're just beyond the understanding of those who make no effort. The factory training course for mineral systems lasted just three days.That it seems is why running one of the cars in the US is such a problem. Even when these cars were current, people like me were sent to the US to attend dealers to sort out simple problems. Personally, the ineptitude of dealer staff often pissed me off.
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 Жыл бұрын
"even if it's a rolls made, in the states," What is that supposed to mean? As for it being a "dinosaur, you might be surprised at some of its sophistication compared to US engines.
@mistersomaru
@mistersomaru Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a euro worshipper. Let me quote Jeremy Clarkson: "hand made in Britain means the door is going to fall off."
@urielgotkicks7459
@urielgotkicks7459 Жыл бұрын
How much u think repairs are like mechanical wise ? Planning on buy one but dont want to cuz i keep hearing people saying maintenance is expensive
@rkw92262
@rkw92262 8 ай бұрын
have it looked at by a RR shop b4 you buy it. If you get one thats been driven, not stored, it might be 20k a year in repairs, that's the low end in my exp.
@StarSlugz
@StarSlugz 3 ай бұрын
Hello did you end up purchasing? I’m 17 and I’m going to be buying my first car I seen one selling it has 56k mileage
@timedwards5856
@timedwards5856 4 жыл бұрын
What's it like getting the opportunity to drive all these exotic cars after only getting the chance virtually before? Seems pretty good of the dealers to let you go out on your own with the cameras. The only dealer that let me take a car out on my own was for a Nissan Micra ha 😂
@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive 4 жыл бұрын
It's great. And mutually beneficial for the dealers who decide to work with me.
@brianlojeck
@brianlojeck 2 жыл бұрын
My gut clenches every time... the little voice in my head screams "HE'S DRIVING ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ROAD!"... I know he's British, I know it's not "the wrong side", but it just looks so wrong...
@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
In a British car no less, lol
@rkw92262
@rkw92262 8 ай бұрын
for sure...i've had 2 RR's, and it scares the piss outa me to see the RHD, driving those roads
@itzjdub282
@itzjdub282 6 ай бұрын
I bet you the tires are 1k each
@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive 6 ай бұрын
Nah nothing special about the tyres, most classic luxury cars have small wheels too for ride quality
@terrydonegan1622
@terrydonegan1622 3 жыл бұрын
Whatever will my neighbours say?
@kensmechanicalaffair
@kensmechanicalaffair 3 жыл бұрын
Well wishes.
@TheFrog767
@TheFrog767 2 жыл бұрын
👏👏🥂
@cyrussataravalla6731
@cyrussataravalla6731 Жыл бұрын
Ma786sai Dua doff my hat to your absolutely spot-in in-depth deep intimate connect with the timeless legend and ecstasy, inherent, in this magnificent marque. I own a 1982 Spirit Mark 1 and cherish its ethereal other-worldly charm and elegance. It’s the only car I know of that I can effortlessly waltz with. A swan serenely glide atop a glass-smooth ripple-free lake.
@saikumarkhan
@saikumarkhan 2 ай бұрын
i like made in England 👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🚗🚗
@gybx4094
@gybx4094 Жыл бұрын
Those cars are marketed to millionaires for a reason. Very expensive parts and repairs. And the systems were amazingly complex for the era they were engineered. No standard service manuals out there. Beware.
@michaelreece458
@michaelreece458 3 жыл бұрын
What do beards have to do with cars?? lol
@HSGAutomotive
@HSGAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
That’s the best question you can come up with huh
@Sandhoeflyerhome
@Sandhoeflyerhome Жыл бұрын
An old Rolls Royce junker? Welcome to 13 mpg. I’d say near worthless, hence its in a junk yard already
@hawke805
@hawke805 Жыл бұрын
P
@jmv123
@jmv123 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree and would like to get a clean example, put in sports suspension and upgraded brakes, and even possibly LS swap the engine if something went wrong with it. I would go even further and strip all Rolls-Royce badges from the car, and put the Bentley grille on instead of the famous spirit of ecstasy grille. And maybe smoke the amber tail lights, I really don’t like those. Essentially, turn it into a bit of a generic sleeper car. However, I would still need the lottery just to consider this. But it would be fun.
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 Жыл бұрын
Oh dear, another knuckle dragging colonial who just doesn't get it.
@erectiledysfunction7399
@erectiledysfunction7399 3 жыл бұрын
Good video and informative.
@johnsmith-i5u
@johnsmith-i5u Жыл бұрын
What practical use does this car have? The real rich wont touch it ( it's an embarrasement ). It's only good as a rental for wedding parties. It's a joke now.
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 Жыл бұрын
Just stick with your ten year old Polo.
@marcodalli5045
@marcodalli5045 5 ай бұрын
You got to enjoy the finer things in life, especially if you're given the opportunity.
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