The Rolls Royce Silver Seraph Was The Last REAL Rolls - A British Luxury Forgotten Gem?

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The Rolls Royce Silver Seraph was the result of efforts to modernise the Crewe-based luxury car maker; an all-new platform that was 65% stiffer than its Spirit predecessor and modern technology behind the skin, backed up by an almighty V12 sourced from BMW. The partnership with the German car maker created a classic Rolls, with modern performance, refinement and technology. However, money-saving left the Silver Seraph platform sharing with the Bentley Arnage and Vickers putting RR up for sale caused a legal battle between Volkswagen and. Through it all, the short-lived Seraph was a hidden gem of a luxury car, and could well be the last true Rolls Royce…
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[@LWVH81]

The most underrated of all Rolls-Royce’s but definitely a fantastic car.

[@anastassiosperakis2869]

Nonsense. THis was a stretched BMW 7 series, the LEAST "REAL" Rolls of ALL.

[@LWVH81]

@@anastassiosperakis2869 This is definitely not a 7 series.

[@Tourist1967]

They're all over-rated.

[@almal378]

Not at all. It had a 7 Series engine and some other parts but not a BMW chassis. The chassis was unique to RR and Bentley.

[@TheMuzikall]

The Bentley version is more appealing especially the Green Label with the 4.4 turbo BNW V8 The 6.75 is too Ancient imho

[@rogerledsham8052]

I own a Seraph. I love it, but it's a BMW with Rolls Royce bodywork and seats. That's it. It's not the last real Rolls; it's the first BMW Rolls Royce.

[@unwoke1652]

And your Real Rolls Royce was a Chevy with proper coachwork....engine and transmission came from GM, for decades. 😂😂😂😂

[@rogerledsham8052]

@@unwoke1652 Indeed. What on earth is a 'real' Rolls Royce?

[@karewenger1343]

@@rogerledsham8052 The GM Hydramatic is reliable and is a good company to a big V-8.

[@MyNameIsUnavailable]

I own a 2016 750i. Are you better than the bloke in the 7 Series? 😂 Admittedly, Its a FANTASTIC RR

[@michaelfischer1586]

The new models are really anything else either...

[@royfellows5468]

and as of yesterday, I am the new proud owner of T790 UMA! Didn't know about this video though.

[@Long-nd8bq]

Just realized you were talking about the plate number. Do they stay with the car even when changing owners? I live in the US and we keep our plates or get new ones with each vehicle. I have personalized plates on my S-Class and if I sell it or trade it I can have the DMV register that plate to my new vehicle.

[@royfellows5468]

@@Long-nd8bq In the UK you can transfer a personal, its called "Cherished", number plate onto a vehicle provided it does not relate to a later year. If it gets transferred off the vehicle the original plate goes on. So regardless of a few plate transferes, the original plate is now back on the car.

[@EEnnisjr]

The last real Crewe Built ROLLS-ROYCE built in Crewe, UK, yet owned by VW/BMW, but operated at Managed by the original Staff with the original RR V8 engine was the last 45 Corniche cars. The Seraph had a BMW engine which made its heart German. RR actually ended being a true RR with the Corniche. RIP RR.

[@Allmentux]

mimimiimiiimi!

[@donquixote3927]

Even the Mulsanne has a better claim to being the last RR ever made.

[@anastassiosperakis2869]

The MECHANICALS were also all 7 Series. THe Platform was also all 7 Series. This was the LEAST "Real" RR, regardless what this fool in the video claims.

[@almal378]

Platform wasn't BMW.

[@garyestcourt2377]

@@anastassiosperakis2869 I think the platform was there own design that's all their budget would allow, but I agree with all the rest 💯✌️

[@madhanaekanayake2187]

Absolutely, it had one of the world's best engines ever made from BMW. A masterpiece on wheels. I would say that this car is wholly underrated. Ignore these fools that hate this car!

[@denisepaulsenful]

“the star that shines twice as bright lives half as long.” ❤️ Wow - that’s just such a romantic statement - but that’s what we do with certain cars - we fall in love. ❤… my husband just bought one of these for me I think cos I was born in Glasgow. Awwh. Now he’s a superstar! ⭐️

[@ClassicsWorldUK]

You've got an excellent husband!

[@palebeachbum]

Modern Rolls Royce doesn't have that classic, dignified elegance of the true Rolls Royces of yore. Once they started catering to Footballers and Rappers and making them look like army tanks, the brand became vulgar and classless. I assume they had to make these decisions to stay profitable. It's unfortunate.

[@michaelmontagu3979]

Couldn't agree with you more. They have lost interest in their traditional clients.

[@edmundcharles5278]

Agree-gone are the graceful flowing lines! The new RR is just another boxy square car!

[@MFS45]

​@@edmundcharles5278That's just modern car design... every manufacturer has to do that now to comply with auto laws related to crash safety and pedestrian safety

[@areguapiri]

Absolutely correct. The Silver Cloud was the last true Rolls-Royce.

[@geraldscott4302]

I assumed they were catering to rich pimps, drug dealers, and gang members, with those huge donk reehuums and no tires. I can't imagine anyone else that would be seen in such an abomination.

[@Your.Uncle.AngMoh]

For my money, this is a far better looking car than modern Rollers. Nice review.

[@michaelmontagu3979]

Absolutely agree with you. Rolls-Royce isn't interested in their traditional clients anymore. They now want new money people, who want to show off their money. No one with any taste or sense of real style would want, for example, the starlight roof. Perhaps I'm biased though. I've owned a 1965 Silver Cloud III, as the second owner, since 1982. Now that's a proper Rolls-Royce.

[@lawrenceholden5716]

This car has beautiful lines, grace and elegance, like some earlier cars. The newer Rolls Royces seem to have lost thiis, they look too loadsamoney, in your face, lacking restraint and class, a bit comedic in overstatement, whereas the Seraph has a timeless appeal with good taste.

[@johnfrei9057]

Totally agree. This Rolls says, “Yeah, I have money. I have class. And I’m not trying too hard to prove that to you.” Current Rolls say “I HAVE MONEY. BY THE WAY, DID I MENTION THAT I HAVE MONEY?!”

[@denisepaulsenful]

@@johnfrei9057Too funny. But you’re right. We have a small car dealership. We bought a Seraph and it sits in the back yard like every other motor - we have to say to customers that we know are into cars we have to tell them cos it definitely doesn’t scream HEY YOU! I’M A ROLLS ROYCE OVER HERE!! TAKE A NUMBER

[@martijnkosters9024]

My claim to fame: I once got a ride in the last Seraph, or at least the last one built in Crewe. We rolled up to the final exam party ahead of a few lads in a self made Flintstone mobile....

[@gebe8978]

LOL, me I drove the unit used for the official photos, dark blue with cream interior. It was crap, why not admitting it.

[@robkunkel8833]

“The star that shines twice as bright shines half as long.” Got it! ❤

[@m100lotus1]

I actually worked on the pre production cars ,the suspension was designed by Lotus engineering

[@jjefferyworboys8138]

Love the Seraph, such an elegant and understated car, with the benefit of BMW's epic V12 .

[@rare6499]

I love the Seraph, think it looks absolutely beautiful. It’s aged gracefully. I adore them actually, all I’m lacking is the money to buy one!

[@fnd111]

They are not that expensive. You can buy one here in the U.S. for around $30,000. Car auctions have them on a regular basis.

[@denisepaulsenful]

@@fnd111 Agreed. We bought one for much less than that even in Toronto at the dealer auction. Hard to believe it was £150,000 new.

[@albertpeckham8708]

I owned a 1981 RR Silver Wraith! I drove it for 19 years and to me....this was the last of the real RR's.

[@areguapiri]

The Silver Cloud was the last true-looking Rolls-Royce.

[@mrgrumpy771]

don't forget Bentley (VW) when they took over also found the shell wasn't strong enough and strengthened it substantially during the Bentley period from 2001 onwards, so the Seraphs are still a bit flexible.

[@richardshiggins704]

A truly splendid car in all respects . In navy blue , exquisite . On Classic cars not too expensive though like any thorough bred the veterinary fees are proportionate .

[@chriswardlow9441]

I can understand the seraph been classed in a way as the last R.R. despite its B.M.W.engine or what ever, it's a great looking car and I would have one tomorrow, but I'm happy enough with my Shadow Two ,but for collectors out there crack on and get buying there ain't many of them, a definite investment. My real favourite is the Silver Cloud 1,because it was the first R.R i saw and that was at Harrogate show in 1957, now I'm giving my age away, LOL, it took me over 60 years to get the car i have loved from seeing my first one in 1957 ,they are just BRILLIANT.

[@PaulStewartAviation]

Great video! It’s such a cool understated car while the newer Phantom was/is very showy.

[@InTeCredo]

Well, Bentley Mulsanne (2010-2020) was the last "real" Rolls-Royce model since it had the venerable V8 engine used in both Bentley and Rolls-Royce from 1952 to 2020. In addition, Mulsanne didn't share the body or chassis with any other vehicles in VW portfolio. Even though Rolls-Royce Phantom had its exclusive body and chassis, but it used BMW V12 engines with displacement increased from six litres to "six and three-quarter litres".

[@joeseeking3572]

Probably the last RR I'd want to own. I'll recognize technology, but I just hate the Phantom - maximum pretentiousness, yech.

[@stewartshackleton7825]

Glad to see you again wafting about around Killingworth. Even passing Weetslade Country Park.

[@ClassicsWorldUK]

Beautiful part of the country!

[@Skawagon]

In genration prior to this the car looked like it was designed to be Rolls first Bentley being an afterthought. In this generation the Seraph seems to be the car that got the short end of the stick. Just compare the 2:28 shot of Bentley with the 2:40 of the Rolls front and the RR grille can only be described as ill fitting. Hardly suiting for the last word of luxury one expects the RR to be. In my opinion BMW did understand very well what RR should be and did excellent job of that. (As did VW with the Bentley)

[@nelsonclub7722]

What a beautiful thought provoking little film - channeling old Top Gear with the famous three a bit there - good stuff - subbed and liked

[@ClassicsWorldUK]

Thanks Nelson!

[@lukespector5550]

British living/yearning for the past is the EXACT reason the Germans bought the ramshackle company. I'm only 6ft tall, though couldn't believe how cramped the interior was in a 2002 Bentley Arnage Red Label. Such an improvised floorpan.

[@oibal60]

Gorgeous car.

[@nigelbond4056]

Great review 👌

[@EEnnisjr]

The Corniche V is legitimately the last real RR. The Seraph definitely is not as it has the heart of a German. It should have had the 6.75 litre engine, then it would be included. Actually the Spur 1997 is the last genuine Sedan. Basically the Seraph has no home as neither RR or Bentley will even touch it. Even self employed RR Mechanics for the most part won’t touch it.

[@Backwardlooking]

Yes and if you look at new German ones they are Blingmobiles for people with excessive money and tastes. No Class which was what R.R. defined; understated elegance.

[@Allmentux]

The RR designers for the Cloud and Spirit actually like the new Goodwood Rolls-Royce cars, so your argument is invalid.

[@robertp.wainman4094]

Agree - a lot of bling!

[@Kirin2022]

A seraph is an angelic spirit and, hence, immortal.

[@mantabond]

Ah, yes: Mister Miller and his post-but-no-remote accent. A fitting pair to the Roller. Cheers.

[@normpaulsen5775]

So cool! We just bought one last night - so this was a treat to watch. It’s being delivered next week. We’re used car dealers in Ontario Canada - but we want to keep the Seraph to ourselves. We paid $13,500 for it. It has 145-Kms - thanks for all the info - we’re so excited about this one.

[@bobmarshall3700]

Pfaart....

[@ramadhanisme7]

Rolls royce will be and always be a class of its own

[@Sacto1654]

Interestingly, the Rolls-Royce Phantom VII and VIII models use a platform used by almost no other models except the Cullinan crossover. This is not the Ghost, which uses a highly-modified version of the BMW 7-Series platform.

[@Jpmpmpm]

This is beautiful rolls should be like this again and make convertible like this to like corniche model

[@craigdouglasmartens7037]

The most beautiful (for me) Rolls Royce ever.

[@GentilsGarage]

Nice one Joe. This is still a fabulous car

[@ClassicsWorldUK]

Agreed! -Joe

[@adamwort7160]

Silver shadow was the nicest went down hill after that

[@simonhodgetts6530]

Oh wow! I love these!! Beautiful cars…….

[@alancrisp1582]

🙂 Wait until you actually drive one .simply wonderful. So refine !..

[@jeremyanderson1139]

The last Rolls-Royce to be co-developed with Bentley, and the last Rolls-Royce to be built at Crewe

[@paulhicks3595]

In a large workshop where I was getting my Volkswagen serviced before the Xmas break I was surprised to see several Porches and RRs also being serviced. I said to my mechanic that it looks like they had a lot of cars to get through before the break. On the hoist beside my car was a Rolls. The mechanic pointed to it and said, with some vehemence, ‘ these things aren’t cars , they’re trucks. A big, heavy, stupid chassis with a big stupid heavy motor that’s needed to haul all this crap. It’s an big , dumb, overbuilt throwback’. He then pointed to a Porsche and ‘ that’s a car!’ . I didn’t ask what he thought of my Volks.

[@jimmyquinn9639]

Beautiful car and excellent video🚘🚙🚗⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👍👍👍👍👍👋👋👋👋

[@davidsherrick898]

Just ashame. A beautiful Rolls Royce. I'm driving a 1988 Alfa Romeo Milano! With 200,000 miles! Not kilometers, Miles! My uncle Rich, .. has one. It's amazing.

[@JoeyBrod]

Excellent video of a very much unknown Rolls as most people just see it as an Arnage due to the lifespan. Also, get all that stuff out of your pockets Joe, looks awkward bud.

[@Jasongy827]

I want to get one what are the price for these

[@oibal60]

Modern Rollers look like Cornflakes boxes with oversized wheels.

[@robertwillis4061]

Nice looking car. Only bit I don't like is the blue dashboard top and steering wheel. Doesn't match the Cream of the rest of the car

[@stas1kacicki392]

This was such a pleasure to watch , think i found a new fave program 👍

[@ClassicsWorldUK]

Thanks for watching!

[@cherylsmith4826]

Any one made BEFORE Rolls became BMW is a true Rolls Royce IMO

[@Barbarapape]

Rolls Royce used to think they made the best cars in the world, but they didn't. It wasn't until they came under guidence from BMW that they began to improve. But i have to agree that the Seraph is far more of a propper Rolls Royce than todays Tonka toy models.

[@richardscally694]

Tonka Toys! YES.

[@andrewthacker114]

Interesting, thanks for sharing

[@ClassicsWorldUK]

Thanks for watching!

[@ClassicsWorldUK]

Thanks for watching!

[@henrygingold6549]

It is not a Rolls-Royce, it's a coach built BMW and that's all it'll ever be.

[@LeightonW]

Actually the V8 was not a Rolls Royce designed engine. The last Rolls, which had an engine designed by Henry Royce was the Phantom 11. However BMW's DOHC V12 is an engine that Henry would be proud of.

[@mauricecohen3830]

I think the current Rolls Royce cars are fabulous and are more worthy of the name than the Seraph or the Spirit.

[@royfellows5468]

and, a couple of weeks after getting the car all is going well. The starter battery was replaced by the vendors, We Buy Any Car for More who were very nice people to deal with. I have replaced the auxiliary battery. These cars do not take very well to standing idle, its necessary to keep the batteries up by trickle charge. Car was showing "Change Oxygen Sensors" light. This is not a diagnostic warning but comes on when the car touches 90,000 miles and is set by the Drivers Information Interface. This can be cleared by going into settings without a diagnostic tool. Current work is upgrading the cars technology to Android touch screen, WiFi, MP3 etc with WiFi reversing and security cameras. Some may think this sacrilege, but its something I really want, especially the reversing camera. The car turns heads everywhere. Park it next to a brand new Beamer or Range Rover and it’s the Royce people look at.

[@ClassicsWorldUK]

Glad it's in good hands, enjoy it! -Joe

[@paulllacey1344]

Rolls were going Bankrupt.

[@DutchManticore]

How can it simultaneously be the last "real" Rolls but also the last real Bentley?

[@kellingtonlink956]

Impressive tribute to an icon. Thanks for the video.

[@kellingtonlink956]

From a past 2001 BMW E38 w/M-Sport package and with the TV/SatNav (740i) owner.

[@Santos.Sarmento]

The point is that the Silver Seraph is just a BMW wearing a tuxedo. The last true Rolls Royce was really a Bentley, the Mulsanne (2010/2020), with a proper L410 6 3/4 (6.75) RR V8.

[@reyrob]

The last RR were the SZ models. 100% RR.

[@sydnorth5868]

The division of what was Rolls Royce Motors (which included the Bentley trademark) between VW and BMW, after VW unexpectedly submitted the highest bid, was just a masterclass in negotiation skills. Everybody won. Vickers got the highest price in the sale. VW got the factory, all the existing designs and the Bentley trademark. BMW paid a ludicrously small amount to gain the rights to manufacture Rolls Royce at a new factory. And Rolls Royce plc (the aero engine manufacturer) got its preferred bidder to manufacture cars under the RR branding.

[@chrischadwick3079]

It was an utter disgrace selling this brand which meant so much to any engineer in the UK.

[@Allmentux]

@@chrischadwick3079 Anyone from the UK could have bought RR as well. But no one did, so complaining until the end of time won't help anyone!

[@sydnorth5868]

@@chrischadwick3079 Grow up!

[@matthewcoupeofficial]

The last Rolls Royce car developed by Vickers was this the Seraph despite it using a BMW engine.

[@LateNightCable]

The claim is that Vickers didn’t want to spend the money, but the whole reason Vickers developed the car was to beef up Rolls-Royce for sale with a more modern product. But the Seraph has never appealed to me because I think aesthetically it’s very compromised. The Rolls-Royce aesthetic is very classic, and the Seraph of course was modern, so the final product was rather conflicted to me. I think the body and platform made a much better Bentley. Even though the Phantom is mostly German, it’s actually closer to what I feel a modern Rolls-Royce should be. Contemporary enough, but unmistakably classic Rolls-Royce.

[@chrislockey7706]

I want one before I leave this earth

[@alancrisp1582]

🤔 What is stopping you ?. You can now buy one for little more than a new Toyota !. Or around 50 - 55 thousand New Zealand dollars 💵..Absolute bargain.

[@booblam6919]

Stay alive...greetings from Jamaica 🇯🇲

[@areguapiri]

That is a big BMW. It's not a Rolls-Royce.

[@brentfairlie9159]

I know most purists consider the seraphim to be forgettable. I absolutely adore them. One day I hope to own one. Assuming I could find one in New Zealand.

[@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne]

If this is the last real Rolls then so is the 4.4 Bentley Arnage. It has a plaque inside the front passenger door clearly stating: "Built by Rolls Royce Motors, Crewe, England"

[@matthewcoupeofficial]

The last true Bentley was the Mulsanne with its 6.75 L Series V8 discontinued at the turn of this decade.

[@bradfordbarrettluckotheIrish]

Beautiful vehicle

[@RuperScooper]

I opened the 7 star hotel Burj Al Arab in Dubai and we placed the largest order ever for seven of these to shuttle guests to and from the airport. After about five years with 250,000 miles on the clock on each car they languished in the hotel basement fir two years covered in dust as nobody knew what to do with them as the main stealer out there wouldn’t touch them…..too old and too long in the tooth it seemed.

[@alancrisp1582]

🤔You are kidding regarding the mileage those Silver Seraph Rolls_Royce vehicles clocked up surely ?. I can not believe that would even be possible 🙆 !. My 1999 car is just coming up to 80.00 miles on the clock 🕒.

[@RuperScooper]

@@alancrisp1582 you imagine backwards and forwards to the airports with hundreds of guests over ten years - job done !!!

[@sutherlandA1]

Actually Vickers didnt hold back anything from the sale to volkswagen, Rolls Royce PLC owned the rights to the name and logo and was only licensed to Vickers for use on the cars so the jet engine maket sold those rights to BMW instead. VW and BMW did a deal where volkswagen sold the spirit of ecstasy to BMW and license building rolls royce models until 2002 in exchange for drivetrain and electrical supplies to continue for bently until they managed to source replacement components

[@johnfrei9057]

This beauty looks so much better than today’s Rollers. Also . . . “Git off my lawn!” 😆

[@TheVintageApplianceEmporium]

I really rather like the Seraph. Apart from the rear end. It just looks so bulbous and melted.

[@marklawton5753]

Rolls Royce holdings PLC (The aero engine manufacture) hold the rights to the Rolls Royce trademarks "Spirit of Ecstasy and Rolls-Royce grille shape" NOT Vickers which used them under licence as does BMW now. Vicker were taken over by Rolls Royce holdings plc in 1999.

[@cyrussataravalla6731]

Ma786sai Dua I drive a 1982 Mark 1 Silver Spirit with the SU HIF twin carburettors. Timeless elegance. Magical waft.

[@gebe8978]

It was undoubtfully a great car, but back in n its days it still felt like travelling back to the past, it was far from the modern lower-end competition. Nothing (except BMW switches) inside was precise, space was ridiculous in the back. Yes, it was wonderful, but... Yes, it was 1000 times better than the predecessor, but... then came the Phantom and BOOM! Original Phantom still looks up to date, quite simply. The differences in presence are not even close to the differences in interior quality. And that as a driver, as a passenger it was like moving from a non-renovated old Business Class to the lastest Singapore Airlinnes First Class.

[@paulie-Gualtieri.]

As it appens, umble Millionaire and celebrity cigar smoking jogger, Sir Jimmy Savile, had the Corniche version.

[@alancrisp1582]

🤫😷 Maybe so, but you can not blame Rolls_Royce for that now.can you ?...........

[@paulie-Gualtieri.]

@@alancrisp1582 Who's blaming Rolls-Royce for anything

[@kamrankhan-lj1ng]

That was Uriah Eap'esque comment!

[@alexandrecouture2462]

Very nice car, but to me, an XJ beats it in most ways.

[@makoshark69x96]

ONLY THE 2008-2009 XJ WAS GREAT ! THAT 2010 XJ WAS PURE GARBAGE ! LOOKS WISE IT WAS TERRIBLE ! JEREMY CLARKSON SAID THEY TESTED THE 2010 XJ AT NIGHT BECAUSE THE CAR WAS SO UGLY !

[@andremarini7113]

Can't unsee the BMW steering wheel

[@cyrussataravalla6731]

Ma786sai Dua for me The Rolls remains any of the models before the Seraph. Corniche, Shadow, Wraith, Spirit, Flying Spur or Spur.

[@paulstafford4784]

Beautiful interior in the Silver Seraph just too bad about the BMW engine 🤦‍♂️

[@EEnnisjr]

Not with an inferior BMW engine. Parts, and especially trying to find a RR genuine mechanic to work on this thing is almost impossible. This thing had too many owners over the short period of production. I call it the John Doe Mobile as it has no home to visit for repairs which is very often. The Corniche is still mostly RR, but not like it’s predecessor.

[@ingerlander]

I want you to picture it being 1945 and a German staff officer is just about to sign the articles of surrender. As the pen touches the paper he looks across the table at his British counterparts and says "In 45 years BMW will own Rolls Royce and VW will own Bentley". The British would have been rushed to hospital having fell off their chairs laughing.

[@ClassicsWorldUK]

How times change!

[@lg5819]

Isn’t that always been the problem when Britain owned an independent car industry, the powers that be didn’t want to invest money in new models to compete with German and Japanese models. It’s just a shame when the U.K. has the talent but not the willingness to take the risks investing in new models.

[@frankschmidt1069]

The last beautiful Rolls-Royce.

[@Beun007]

Right, this is the last classsy car from RR!

[@stephencurran5429]

For me the silver shadow will always be the best rolls Royce

[@alancrisp1582]

😀🤔 Yes they were nice looking too. But hardly rare.they made a very large amount of these. Over 30.000..So very common and not really collectable !...

[@michaelmontagu3979]

I'm a fan of the Silver Cloud. I've owned a Cloud III since 1982.

[@alancrisp1582]

@@michaelmontagu3979 😀You are a very lucky man. The Silver Cloud has always been a true beautiful looking Rolls_Royce classic car. And no modern electronics to go wrong !......

[@michaelmontagu3979]

@@alancrisp1582 Exactly. Any good mechanic can look after it.

[@j.m.harrincourt2208]

I think the last real Rolls was the Silver Shadow. And once again, It was briefly resurrected in Phantom VII.

[@monaabbyhamedani917]

2:35 anyone else see Allegro Vanden Plas? I'll get me coat

[@akrambaig2689]

The new Rolls looks like thunderbird, lol 😆

[@winstonsmyth1646]

So the current Phantom isn't a real Rolls! It's just as much a Rolls as the Seraph.

[@petertroth3830]

Built by people worried about their future. Constructed of componants driven by accountants price approval regardless of quality to save money. A great idea, great design that could have been as good as all that went before.

[@edmundcharles5278]

Rolls Royce has not had an elegant design since the Silver Cloud!

[@zafar78600]

A twin turbo would have been nice.

[@paullacey2999]

The last tasteful RR,before all the vulgar BMW versions.....

[@michaelmontagu3979]

Spot on comment. Vulgar cars for vulgar people.

[@jacobgreenmanedlion1863]

The last real rolls was the Spirit. Full stop.

[@alancrisp1582]

🤫Wrong, so wrong. The last real Rolls_Royce was the Silver Seraph. Buy one now while you still can !....

[@jacobgreenmanedlion1863]

@@alancrisp1582 rolls-Royce was a manufacturer of fine mechanical running gear which they bought in a body to sell as a complete car. The Seraph does not have Rolls Royce running gear, and therefore it is not a Rolls-Royce in the traditional “real” sense. It’s a nice car (more than I could say for the tasteless machines with interiors of limited craftsmanship that look more Soviet Baroque than British that came after it)and if I could engine swap that BMW V12 with something vaguely reliable (a Merc V12, a Chevy LS, a Ford Triton V10, a ZIL V8) I would own one; in fact I do have a vague desire to own a post Red-Label Arnage which is also closer to being a Real Rolls. That being said I would much rather own a Cloud, Wraith II, Shadow, Spur, or Spirit- in that order of preference more or less. I would much rather own the Rolls than it’s companion Bentley, especially once Bentley got even more sporty with the turbocharged variants. Here in the US the Clouds aren’t worth much, and the remainder are basically worthless, so I have no reason to go for that computerized nightmare with proof that when people look up to German cars they are really looking at Mercedes and the halo they unfairly cast on others.

[@makoshark69x96]

SILVER SPUR IV ! 1997-99

[@madhanaekanayake2187]

@@jacobgreenmanedlion1863 Yeah right, Mercedes V12 is reliable. Good one... 🤣🤣🤣

[@madhanaekanayake2187]

@@jacobgreenmanedlion1863 Mercedes is one of the most unreliable cars. Worse than BMW!!

[@kaiserkhan9501]

Sir if I may add The true Rolls Royce were built in the late 1950s and in the early 1960s A six cylinder engine I consider as the most reliable

[@wiltzu81]

No it was not because it has V12 engine from BMW. Last true Rolls-Royce was Silver Spirit-series cars with all its variations.

[@Seadweller451D]

The Silver Seraph was a BMW bastard!

[@EEnnisjr]

One major fraud, it had a BMW engine. Actually it’s not a genuine RR. The main problem is parts are very difficult to get. Even worse, a RR Dealership can’t even work on it, or BMW. Even old school professionals for RR, absolutely won’t touch this car. The Corniche was built during the same time, but all part’s are easily available. I rarely see one of these cars anywhere. Most likely no parts. Even the fake BMW/RR knockoffs only have parts available for 7 year’s. After that, you are basically on your own.

[@paulbriere4872]

Absolutely correct. My ‘80 Silver Wraith II is serviced by a well-known R-R expert, and I have heard this same discussion in his shop. The Silver Seraph is more like a FrankenRolls.