Romagne 14-18 Museum Tour

[@vettekid3326]

Museums like this show the real cost of war because seeing the remains left on the battlefield can give a good indication of how many lost their lives there. A three mile radius is a relatively small area of the front lines when you compare that to the 400 mile front lines that went from the North sea to the Swiss border.

[@TheREALMcChimp]

3:53 That French helmet with the bullet hole in really tells its own story.

[@unidentifiedbiomass4106]

Hope the curator checked your pockets for Chauchat magazines

[@YourFavoriteBotGarethThompson]

Ian is stuffing a duffle bag full of Berthiers as we speak

[@marsproductions1]

I think most modern museums need to use the before-after ratio of relics. Show the viewer what the weapon or article looked like from the factory, but later on show the viewer how one of them was found. I think that would convey the emotional and historical sense of it.

[@carlwitt7950]

This comment deserves a lot more attention.

[@ISawABear]

A great idea but that does run into the issue of find one in pristine or undamaged condition or one that has been restored. Now that being said you could side step this and show photos or blueprints.

[@ashIibabbitt1111]

Agreed. Imagine an experience where you're first introduced to how rubber was being conserved and recycled for the war effort, showing an old tire and pictures of what some people used instead of rubber tires - like an old photo of a rural family pictured beside their old pick up truck with cloth wrapped rims proud to sacrifice for the war effort, and beside that a brand new army boot with a sole made of recycled tires. We then see an army boot with more wear and tear and the obvious signs of the tear being mended with whatever materials at hand like the newly invented duct tape which also utilized rubber. Then we see a boot with a bullet hole and blood stains. Then we finally stop on an old boot that has been found after decades of exposure and the canvas is nearly gone and the only things left somewhat intact are the rubber sole, and the skeletal foot found inside the boot. Would that be a museum experience worth having?

[@JerryEricsson]

There is a museum in Bismarck North Dakota owed by the State. It is quite nice in the fact that they display a LOT of firearms. The one I particularly enjoy is the rifle used to murder Sitting Bull, the leader of the Hunkpapa Sioux at the Little Big Horn (battle of the Greasy Grass) as well as his badge, also the ghost shirts from the Sioux Ghost Dance which they believed would be bullet proof if they danced and gave up enough chunks of skin to the Great Spirit. Good shit, one should take a tour of it at least once in their life. Lots of Sioux and Mandan Indian History. It sits near the only Sky Scraper in North Dakota, the State Capitol Building, a bet on growth that was lost to other nearby States.

[@dfwai7589]

@@JerryEricsson wait, wait, wait why the fuck is there a town in North Dakota named after Bismarck?

[@tigdogsbody]

“Detritus Of War “ would make a good title for a book about the First World War.

[@Otokichi786]

That title could also (cynically) be applied to the Lebensborn or orphan children of World War II

[@ramona14220]

I read that phrase about 40 yrs ago either in a book by Ian Hogg on 20th century weapons or a Ballantine book on the fall of France. I had joined a military book club and got free books and was reading them all at once. The phrase has stuck with me all these years.

[@Legion563]

That place comes across as more of a memorial, incredible looking place yet grim asf :( ....Ed: Fkn hell the spade corner....

[@staguar]

With all those Chauchat magazines, they probably have some that work better than the ones you've got back home.

[@davebarrowcliffe1289]

Do a quick "switcheroo" while nobody is watching? 🤔 😉😂

[@SgtKOnyx]

Since pretty much all of those are battlefield finds? Probably not.

[@liammeech3702]

probably better off 3-D printing thrm

[@Anitropius]

What an amazing place. The artifact placing is downright artistic.

[@seancooney1310]

Ian, I agree completely with your old vs new museum style. As a history nerd and museum geek I love the old style. The new style forces a narrative sometimes and doesn't let us either interpret or experience as is best for us.

[@matthewspencer5086]

Ian: Don't totally ignore hunting rifles in such a context: officers sometimes bought personal long arms with them, especially when tanks appeared that were immune to standard service rifles for months or years until anti-tank rifles were produced. The first response was officers sending for big-game rifles from home, followed by official requisitioning and issue of the same. Applies to both sides really, and also to the need for "sniper" rifles to tackle machine-guns behind armoured shields. The 0.5" Vickers "C" machine-gun round used in WW2 was likewise a big game rifle cartridge that had been incubated and grown a bit. (The 0.5" Vickers "D" cartridge, adopted only by the Turkish Navy, was more like a necked-down cannon round: too powerful for most machine-gun applications.)

[@jic1]

My understanding was that the big game rifles were more for barrier penetration against snipers' nests and machine gun positions than for tanks. If anything, I would expect big-bore hard-cast dangerous game bullets to be less effective against armor plate than 7-8mm FMJ spitzer rounds, not more.

[@matthewspencer5086]

@@jic1 : Big game "solids" could be steel-jacketed at the time, and I believe that at least in Britain, armour-piercing ammunition was produced for some hunting rifles. That being said, spalling from a big game bullet would be more effective than spalling from an 8mm Spitzer, and I think a lot of the time spalling was the best they could hope for.

[@51WCDodge]

@@matthewspencer5086 A lot of commercial rifles were taken out privarley, especially for sniping. The British Military did order some dozen os so rifles in various Nitro Express and Rigby calibres for use against German sniper sheilds.

[@viggenguy4411]

Biggest problem with that one to me is that the scope does not appear to be contemporary to WW1 at all, decades later. I'd guess 1960s at the earliest.

[@JerryEricsson]

@@viggenguy4411 Oh no my friend, my Father left me his "meat gun" which was a Remington Target Master Jr. back in the late 1940's he had a local gunsmith remove the peep sight and mount a JC Higgins 4X telescopic sight on it. I still have the rifle and scope, however in the dozens of moves, the peep sight (Lyman) went missing. About 25 years ago, when I worked with a Gunsmith, I polished the old rifle to a high gloss and re-blued her, she looks nearly like new, Dad had used the stock to beat a pheasant he had shot with the rifle to death and broke it at the wrist, I had earlier used Epoxy to fix the stock and removed all the old black tape dad had repaired it with long before my birth 67 years ago. No telescopic sights date back to the Civil War to my knowledge, and perhaps earlier, the Buffalo Hunters often used them on their Sharps to improve their accuracy when denuding the prairie where I now reside of the huge (and very tasty) animals.

[@1neohm]

Such an amazing way to display artifacts of the war, seems almost overwhelming. I could see myself spending several hours in there.

[@VegasCyclingFreak]

The world needs more museums like this one. Unbelievable how much stuff they’ve found within three miles of there!

[@erikth1986]

The museums owner was on dutch tv last night, it's mindblowing how much things that once belonged to soldiers you can find in northern france

[@Jesses001]

I was just about to say it when you mentioned it. You get the most out of a place like this if you know a little bit about the gear before hand. He really does have it well displayed. I love how he put the belts and box together as if frozen in time right after being destroyed.

[@donnyreznicek211]

I wish I could like this video more than once. As both a historian and a combat vet (Iraq, 2003), I wish I could help curate a place like this, and help to explain to people just what it is they're looking at. Another wonderful video, sir.

[@lilusherwumbo4292]

I honestly think this is a more emotional/meaningful experience. It depicts the sheer scale of the war.

[@SgtKOnyx]

And it does that *without* remembering that all the artifacts are from within three miles of the museum

[@liammeech3702]

The wall of barbed wire was rather disturbing

[@Vault57]

Hey Ian, great video. I came across a 75 mm shell casing made into a piece of trench art at a local thrift store and immediately purchased it. The shell has been worked into vase with the word “Victory” wrapping around it. Also embossed is the day and time as “11-11-11-1918”. Since today is the day of the armistice which brought an end to the Great War I just thought I would mention it. And as I sit typing this, the Nations prepare to do it all over again.

[@RonOhio]

Modern museums have no soul. This museum obviously does not lack a soul. Bless the owner and may his museum prosper long after he has passed.

[@jackandersen1262]

Ron Stephen and most of a museum’s stuff is behind closed doors.

[@sb-ant6457]

The curator is an artist and his work is as breath taking as it is tragic. Bravo.

[@Chrissi.Pinder]

The other great thing about private museums ... private tours. My fiancee's family founded Lake Geneva, WI as a family vacation spot away from their liquor business in Chicago. Their is a private museum in town and the original mansion on the lake. We chose to tour both when they were closed to the public so that we could have time to relate everything we were seeing to the family stories she grew up with. Not to mention you get to see all the things that are not part of the public collections.

[@charlesgloeckner9873]

How cool is this - I would like to see it and similar. So many of the canteens (which were, of course, worn close to the body) had obvious bullet or shrapnel holes in them. If a canteen could not survive, a much larger human didn't have a chance. CG

[@planescaped]

Also the "another helmet down there" with the picture of a guy by it had a big bullet hole through the left forehead of the helm...

[@SgtKOnyx]

@@planescaped Could have alternately been shrapnel, but it's certainly sobering to remember that none of the helmets issued to general troops in that time were intended to be bulletproof.

[@jeffreydonaldson576]

In thje early 1970's I had the privallage of working on a dig in Grand detour Illinois at the John Deere histoacial site. It was a simple trash pit/ othouse from around 1840 t0 1850. I was there working on the John deere house at the time with a contractor. we were digging footings when we started finding things like brass door lock, darnning eggs, flatware that was as tested pure silver. I thought the man in charge would have fit he was so dang happy.

[@ClawPhD]

the world needs more museums like this!

[@evil_me]

This is the type of museum that I would love to visit! This really does show more of the scale of the war than traditional museums.

[@rossstenner4402]

I like this sort of museum too, there was a great one over the mayors office in Fromelles, there used to be a good museum in a pub by the Lille gate in Ypres now, I believe, sadly gone. The Hooge Crater museum is well worth a look with a collection of arms from most of the countries involved & a remarkable collection of artillery shells & one of the biggest collections of 'trench art' shell cases I have seen,

[@ducomaritiem7160]

Thanks Ian. I really love this kind of museum. There used to be a lot more of them back in the sixties and seventies. You can smell and touch history in those places. The Vaux fortress had an exhibition like that, and my father took me inside when I was only 3 years of age. I remember to be totally in terror, be seeing all those bombs and barbed wire and went out in complete panic.

[@rad666a]

I saw this place before on "The Great War". The guy there does great work and deserves all the publicity he can get!

[@jimb01]

Thank You sir, your enthusiasm is contagious.

[@BRETTYZCAR]

Thanks for the video Ian. To see relics like this in their true form gives the most impact of what it was like. You seemed to be taken aback by the display and a bit lost for words or breathless. I too would feel like this if I were to go to these sites.

[@stanleydenning]

This is the type of museum I appreciate the most. A real show of history. Realicks from the past, in as is condition. It tells the true story of what was. I hope the world has grown up enough to evade any such occurrence again.

[@HouseholdDog]

I love museums with tons of stuff in them.

[@LeFeuauxpoudres]

One of the best museum!

[@72polara]

Amazing museum! That is how I love to see things displayed. If only the wood and metal could tell us their stories.

[@GenuineTraumatizer]

Gotta love small/personal military museums. There's one in my city (Savannah GA) called the Webb Military Museum. Owners a really cool guy and loves to share info on everything he's got, and has a center section of a MIG inside as well.

[@jbkman]

This is so cool! Totally my kind of museum, I could spend hours looking at all of this! Thanks for sharing this Ian!

[@dongulio5539]

You're back Ian! I loved you video about this museum years back and it got me really interested in the war, thanks ian

[@chrisneedham5803]

Simply outstanding collection

[@jarink1]

Some of those exhibits, especially the entrenching tool corner and wall of canteens and mess kits do something most museums do not. They convey a sense of the scope of losses in war, especially WWI. The scale of destruction and loss of life was overwhelming. Truly a memorial to the men and women and their experiences instead of the things.

[@Khalrua]

Ian! So close to 1 million subscribers for the 100th anniversary of the armistice. LETS SHOOT FOR 1 MILLION ON THE 11th HOUR, 11th MINUTE, 11th FREAKING SECOND ON THE 11th DAY OF THE 11th MONTH; WOO!!

[@JenniferinIllinois]

Wow! What an amazing museum.

[@Demicron]

This set up is a lot more "raw" as per WW1. Perhaps it illustrates the war for its chaos.

[@Lollikips]

Judging by the thumbnail I was hoping you'd be reviewing an ancient slipper that was once used to slap people across the head with

[@Lockbar]

"Bring out the dead!"----"I'm not dead yet!"

[@jerryjohnsonii4181]

Very Cool an thanks for showing this great museum Sir.

[@bobjones5166]

It is a reminder that "war is hell". More folks need to see thing like this.

[@Otokichi786]

William Tecumseh Sherman: There is many a boy here today who looks on war as all glory, but, boys, it is all Hell. en.wikiquote.org/wiki/William_Tecumseh_Sherman

[@Traderjoe]

What an amazing museum!

[@JesusvonNazaret]

so much to see and discover in just one large room

[@beefstew5608]

That place is so cool!!

[@_stoatchaser]

Thanks Ian. This is on my list for France next summer.

[@simonjames6217]

Much more emotional impact from that wall of mess tins than any museum I've been to.... Each one has to represent a man who lived, slept, and likely died all within a few miles of one another. Chilling

[@wallaroo1295]

It kind of reminds me of how the antique stores used to put on displays. Just clutter with tied price tags, usually with some tidbit of information of what the piece was.

[@beskydyk]

Thank you for showing this amazing place!

[@worldtraveler930]

That's Cool!! It's like the museum's I grew up with here in TEXAS and of which few still remain.

[@lurchliebe4481]

Last summer I was in a tiny museum in Egmond an Zee in the Netherlands. It was one little 4 • 5 meters big room (which was an ammunition bunker in WW2) filled to the top with things found in the dunes nearby. They had helmets, shells, the remains of a Pak (or something like that) and a original edition of Hitler's "Mein Kampf", which is pretty rare. They also had firearms, of course, but only 5 and all Mausers. One was a Kar98k, one was something craft-build (a Mauser reciever with a little bit of what remains of the barrel screwed to a chunk of wood) and the other 3 were original Gewehr 98s with the original barrel lenght, the darker finish and the straight bolt. That made me wonder why the hell the Germans did use the original 98 in WW2 🤔. Or are those simply weapons that the soldiers on an outpost got because they are never even supposed to see combat? (Like with the Gewehr 71s in the african colonies during WW1) Has anyone an explanation for this? Dear kindly person who read until here: Thank you 😊 PS: A great tour as always, Ian! Thank you very much! 👍🏻

[@SgtKOnyx]

To answer your question, Germany was heavily restricted by the treaties after the Great War, including in total number of rifles allowed. Basically, the Kar98K was the most advanced rifle they had at the time, so they elected to keep those and got rid of many of the older models, though not all of them obviously. I'd definitely recommend Othias's videos over at C&Rsenal

[@stevequinn6793]

This place definitely hi-lights the _after_ portion of the _before and after_ phenomena of war.

[@krokodilpil8335]

Looks interesting. Those items have a lot of stories to tell.

[@turbografx16]

I too miss when museums had gobs of artifacts. If I want a narrative or an 'experience', I'll read a book or watch a documentary and get far more information anyway. In the museums I want to SEE the material culture.

[@thatguynameddan2136]

reminds me of a museum you find in little out-of-the-way places that proves to be one of the more fascinating places of a trip. there are a couple small collections like this for ww2 within an hour or so of here. They tend to be cluttered in a good way as well.

[@mtnmist1]

Unbelievable all found within 3 miles. The amount of artifacts is staggering.

[@mrscary3105]

That was a treat to see! Thank you!

[@pietaushamburch6128]

3:59 I totally agree with you: "[...]The more you know, coming in, the more you benefit coming out[...]" - That's the whole point of this messy looking museum. If you're visiting a modern museum, you'll miss the details. FE, Viking Museum Haithabu: the exhibition is so clear, there's no room for all the small items, found at the viking settlement. If you're in some special kind of history, there's never ever enough stuff to see. Modern museums don't let you have a look at the little things, sadly.

[@kbjerke]

Wow. Really good. Thanks, Ian!

[@45obiwan]

WOW! Thanks!

[@onlyhurtsonce9222]

When you go into a museum and see one example of something you get the idea of what was used, but if they have thousands of examples of that thing it shows the sheer numbers of people involved and the terrible cost.

[@butth0le_inspector]

But does the shoe take extended mags?

[@evangilbert6544]

There's a museum like this in Bastogne for the battle of the bulge with tons of extremely worn and weathered weapons and equipment just on open display

[@stevenhoman2253]

Ian, thank you. I truly despise modern museums, and their mistaken emphasis on architecture and a highly limited use of space for a minimalist experience. modern museums appear to have the function of concealing their collections in their vaults instead of displaying them. I would truly love to visit this place. it looks highly sobering in its forthwriteness.

[@wierdalien1]

ehhh Its a phase, they will phase out of it again

[@robertmarshall3721]

Totally agree. The imperial war museum in London used to be amazing you couldn't get round it all in a day. Now it's just loads of empty space with not much to see.

[@dfwai7589]

@@robertmarshall3721 I completely agree, my dad and I went to it during our visit across the pond and I was honestly pretty disappointed

[@SgtKOnyx]

I posted a comment to the effect of the last portion of yours, I admit to needing to take a few moments halfway through, and I'm not even actually there.

[@matthewblackwood4704]

That place has an awesome aesthetic, would love to go there.

[@kenhelmers2603]

Another cool place! Thanks Ian

[@loupiscanis9449]

Thank you for sharing you trip ,

[@NotOneOfUs]

Just from this video, I'd say this museum, in how it's setup and with the artifacts it uses, painted me a very clear picture of how bleak and devastating WWI was. Just when I think I got a good grasp on just how horrific that war was, something else comes along and somehow makes it all seem even worse than I could imagine.

[@kirilbellic3602]

The rugged look makes this so absolutely cool. Looks like preserved and curated trench, not sterile and boring. Only a private owner could make it this interesting.

[@Vibration_Crew]

"All found within 3 miles of the museum" Wow, that place must have seen some serious action. When you link each item to a person it hammers home the scale of brutal destruction these people faced. And the way the museum was laid out was probably how most items were found, endless pits of churned up mud and men thru days/weeks of artillery fire. When you look at it that way this museum has a sombre feel more real than individual items in pristine condition shown in other museums. Imo.

[@angiefav1847]

Thanks lan, truely a look at real horror of war a reminder that war solves nothing very sad but very interesting. I like this type of museum a look at what it must have been like in the trenches

[@AndyMcCavish]

So all of that came from a 3 mile radius of the museum? What an amazing demonstration of the industrial scale of WW1

[@carlcarlton764]

Interesting. That beats the museum in Ypres by an order of magnitude. They have some in the category "broken and other stuff found on the battlefield" but it is usually labelled.

[@ebenizerb.schlestertrappdu6943]

Fascinating! A museum totally dedicated to archaeological discoveries "as is".

[@Otokichi786]

'Hicks, slow down! Go back and pan right, pan left." I see that I shall have to slow down playback speed/pause/rewind to take a good look at this "battlefield detritus" collection. The quantity is absolutely overwhelming to see, let alone recognize or try to put in context. In a word: Fascinating!;) This is another kind of "TMZ," an environmental monument to those that were incorporated into the earth by War. The not-quite-good-enough-for-archive video playback speed is 0.5, where it resembles undersea footage of a wrecked liner.

[@glynwelshkarelian3489]

This kind of museum stimulates thought. The modern museum industry are too often run by people who care neither about their subject or their visitors. In the UK the Ashmolean Museum in Oxford (with the finest collections of 19th Century spears in the world) and the Whitby Museum are the only 2 I know that have such a mass of random stuff that anyone can spot something, then tell their children some story about it.

[@glynwelshkarelian3489]

Sorry, but I just remembered the Sir John Soane Museum; the modest and best museum I know www.soane.org

[@glynwelshkarelian3489]

Maddest, not modest.

[@planescaped]

~ears perk Someone say spears?

[@51WCDodge]

I went to IWM musuem when it reopned after a £21,000,000 refit. The musuem was ripped off! I could have ruined it just as effectivley for far less. Try the Wallace Collection, the firearms are to drool over. www.wallacecollection.org/ The rest of the place will fascinate as well.

[@SpyGeorgilis]

If you ever visit Crete, Greece, check out the Askifou War Museum, for a much smaller but still quite interesting private collection of discovered war artifacts. Mostly WWII battle of Crete, with some unlikely 'jokers' thrown in -- like a couple of break-open S&W revolvers in .44 Russian (!)...

[@ordinosaurs]

When I was a kid in the 80's, we used to play pretended war with my cousins when we were visiting my grand parents on holidays in Picardie, with old rusted gun barrels like the ones hanging on the wall. They were found everywhere in the fields outside, there was so much of them. Also, we used to pick up leftover cartridges to collect the powder. When we had enough of it, we'd burn it for the fun. The artillery shells, we left in place for the farmers to pick up, too dangerous ;-)

[@fogogin]

That's heavy man, I think that makes way more of an impression than a contemporary museum would. I saw a picture the other day of a pyramid of surrendered German helmets in new york city from just after the war, something like 20k of them.

[@wilsonj4705]

At 5:29 there's a rifle, or what's left of it, that appears to have a split barrel. Possibly as a result of a barrel obstruction ?

[@SgtKOnyx]

Certainly a possibility

[@lwilton]

What an amazing place. I wish I had a chance of getting over there just to look at it. The only thing that slightly bothered me is it looked like about half the stakes in that barb wire wall were upside down.

[@sven4524]

That is awesome!

[@gnarshread]

What a closet of curiosity! Very very cool.

[@artfact2]

I have been a huge museum nerd for years but, of late, I haven't really visited many. As you say, modern exhibitions force you to have a catered experience. Most in the Netherlands( I don't know if this trend is persistent everywhere) have done away with plaques with in formation or even nameplates. All is done via audio-tours. It is okay to ignore this when you're fluent in a subject and can make up what you are looking at. When the subjects are contextual or totally alien to your experience, relaying information is what a museum should have as one of its base functions. But I refuse to have someone blabbering in my ear when I try to concentrate on the objects and their history. Like trying to read a dense book while someone is trying to their hardest to tell you their opinion about it.

[@WeakendVermin7]

Have you have checked out the Cantigny museum out by Chicago? That’s also a very cool museum to check out and definitely worth the visit!

[@SgtKOnyx]

The thought that everything there was found on a WW1 battlefield is intense, but then I remember that everything is from an incredibly tiny radius around the museum. Something about that makes the whole thing a bit less detached to me. It's not just "Here's a thousand shovels from WW1.", it's "Men bled and died for this strech of dirt. Here's the shovels they used to try and live a little longer, lower.". It's not just "Here's some old bent rifles from WW1.", it's "An artillery blast took that barrel and bent it. You pray it was on a rack, or stacked in some cute teepee, but you just know it was in some poor sod's hands when it happened.". It's not just "Here's some battle damaged canteens", it's "Dear God so many of these have bullet or shrapnel holes in them, how many of them were attached to men going up over the top?". It's not just "Here's some WW1 barbed wire.", it's "Imagine wading through the machine gun and artillery fire only to get to the other side and you've still got to get through this wire.".

[@jeffreydonaldson576]

coolest museum I ever saw

[@rossedelstein6130]

Hey Ian, if you want to see some good battle damage here in the US, the National World War 1 Museum in Kansas City has a great F-17 tank on display that got hit by a shell of some sort.

[@ukk2]

That german machine gunner body armor hanging near the rifles was very cool 👍

[@harrychung433]

For a moment there, I thought you had taken us down into your secret bat cave, Ian. As you said, that style of museum is more visually interesting than the modern sterile ones.

[@clamum]

I can't believe the number of views Ian is getting nowadays. I mean, I think it's fantastic and he deserves all the attention for his long years of hard work, but I'm just genuinely surprised at the number of people who are interested in historical firearms. Are people actually watching the videos and paying attention to them? Or just clicking it and letting it play cause "it's a new video?"

[@mtodd4723]

Cool , Thank you for Sharing your time with us . I would love to visit these smaller museums . Money & health prevent me .

[@Bonanza55]

In fact there where Austro-Hungarian troops fighting at the western front between 1914 and 1918. The 1 k.u.k Infanteriedivision was fighting north of Verdun in oktober 1918. The former frontline is only 10 km away from Romagne-sous-Montfaucon where the Museum is located. I think that is the reason why there is a Steyr M95 on the wall.

[@lpfreak1708]

This is overwhelming

[@jonvalinski]

A fantastic museum. Somewhere I could spend many hours . . . ...

[@jamesmattimore3984]

Ian I was in Bastogne this summer, not too far from this museum they have a Steyer 1895 long rifle in similar condition with there relics in the army barracks museum the "nuts cave" as they call it. I cant find any evidence of Austrian units on the western front in this first war. Strange but your Steyer is not alone on the western front.

[@SgtKOnyx]

Sometimes things are just in odd places. I mean if a Connecticut Yankee can find his way to King Arthur's Court?

[@jamesmattimore3984]

So what are you suggesting, two Austrian soldiers made a massive left turn at Albuquerque an instead of going back to their own allied army just charged in to the melee of the western front for fun? Or how about we acknowledge that two weapons that don't fit into the German logistics system at all due to wildly different calibers of ammo are really odd to find as battle debris. Especially in foreign territory the Germans had conquered, while they had no shortage of their own rifles. In the second war the situation was very different and that army was short of arms from day one. The first was is a very different story

[@N666able]

For the Dutch speaking people among us, the owner of the museum was in An episode of "De reünie" in which he tells the story about how the museum came to be. You can watch the episode here: www.uitzendinggemist.net/aflevering/348749/De_Reunie.html P.s. besides the beer you can also get a decent sandwich at the place, highly recommend a visit!

[@vileasphunk7789]

Great Video!!