Roman Exile (73-115 CE)

[@Qba86]

"Freed Jews moved to Southern Italy" -- Well, good for them! "...to the city of Pompeii" ...oh...

[@LeeLe412]

Love your video! So many people are questioning whether Ashkenazi Jews are "real" Jews and even though history and science prove they are, thanks to you I now have a concise explanation for anyone who asks.

[@CivilWarWeekByWeek]

I was wondering how in depth you were going. Glad to know the answer is very in depth.

[@TroglodyteDiner]

I've always thought there was something very Greek, more particularly Pythagorean, about the Holy Trinity (or triangle). I congratulated my priest on having gotten through his Trinity Sunday homily without once saying 'hypostasis'.

[@alejandrovalenzuela377]

The reason it sounds very Greek is because it is a Greek idea. NeoPlatonists combined their idea of God as The One and mixed it with the Jewish (Biblical) concept of God. The trinity is not a biblical doctrine as it is not based on the teachings of the apostles. It came about after the Hellenistic Christian Fathers combined their philosophies with Christianity.

[@raptor4916]

The Great Commision would like a word with you Mathew 28:19 "Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit," plus all the trinitian formulas in Paul's Epistles example 2 Corinthians 13:14 " May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God,and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all." And the didache which is a loose copy of mathew, plus all the times Jesus refered to the father and the holy spirit as beings clearly seperate from himself and each other. the trinity was always there what exactly the trinity meant was question for christians to wrestle with until today.

[@NadavJulius]

I gotta say I’m really loving this show. Appreciate all the hard work it must have taken to put it all together.

[@theparadidomichannel5552]

You suggested the trinity has no basis in Jewish theology. Which Jewish theology? May I suggest "Two Powers in Heaven," written by Alan F. Segal--who incidentally is a Jew.

[@marcello7781]

Short and very informative video! This channel deserves more followers

[@marriage4life893]

In Acts 18, Paul takes a Nazarite vow with other men from the church in Jerusalem. In Acts 20, Paul changes his trip in order to make it to Jerusalem for Shavuot. Check out NPP, New Perspective on Paul by James Dunn, and the Radical New Perspective on Paul. The traditional concept of interpreting Paul's letter through antinomian lenses is changing.

[@sjappiyah4071]

Quick correction that’s not in Acts 18, that’s in Acts 20:21-26, and he himself didn’t take the Nazarite vow, rather he purified himself with men who did take the vow, and he payed for their expenses. It was meant as a symbolic act that James (the brother of Jesus) to do, to demonstrate that Paul did not abandon the law/rituals neither advised Jews too, but rather understood that it was justification and that the gentiles didn’t need to participate. I agree with you main point though, the view on Paul is outdated and modern scholarship is changing it.

[@zelenisok]

There is a basis in Jewish religion for Arian and later Trinitarian ideas tho. The "Angel of the Lord" is talked about in the Hebrew Bible as a being which can manifest on earth and through which God acts and speaks - in first person - and people interacting with it say they have heard and/or seen God, but besides that identification of the two it is also clear they are not the one and the same, being that they talk to each other and one is sent by the other. Add to that the personification of God's wisdom in the wisdom literature, plus the 'son of man' in Daniel, and you get the basis for Christian theology which divinizes Jesus, including most importantly before his birth. Of course it helped that the contemporary philosophies of Middle Platonism and Neopythagoreanism had already developed basically the same theology, saying how God doesnt simply create the word, but acts through a kind of secondary divinity which is emanated from him, which was already incorporated in Judaism by Philo. There's a book by the Jewish scholar Alan Segal called Two powers in heaven, which talks more on this.

[@whitelady1063]

שכחתי לכתוב שאני משתמש בסרטונים שלך כדי ללמוד לבגרות להיסטוריה Forgot to tell that I am using your videos to study to the history finals in Israel

[@dv6298]

I love the production quality - extremely undervalued channel!

[@richardglady3009]

Thank you so much for covering the “in-between “ years that rarely get discussed. They are vital, not just for laying the groundwork for the future, but as reminders of consequences of the past. Thanks.

[@xUncleA123x]

Trinitarianism specifically arose out of Jewish theology of the time. Please look at scholarship such as Alan Segal's Two Powers in Heaven, Daniel Boyarin's the Jewish Gospels, and Benjamin Sommer's Bodies of God.

[@sjappiyah4071]

xUncleA123x Yup ! Plus Philo of Alexandria a Jewish 1st cent Philosopher is literally the first one to mention the term “trinity “, in reference to God, his Logos (Angel of YWHW) and his Holy Spirit. Now to be fair, he had a more Arian view of trinitarianism as he believed the word and spirit were *created* aspects of God, however it was certainly a form of Jewish trinitarianism prior to Christianity.

[@Duiker36]

Thank you for actually providing sources about the trinity thing, unlike other commenters. Glancing over Sam's sources, it appears he got his stuff on Christian theology from Extra History, which is notoriously low quality in scholarship.

[@bernhardsegerer1316]

Utterly fascinating!

[@Kuudere-Kun]

The Gospel According to John is an aggressively Jewish Gospel that won't make sense if you don't understand the Old Testament theology it's referencing. The Trinity is no less purely Monotheistic then Kabbalah.

[@SamAronow]

I didn't say it wasn't monotheistic.

[@Kuudere-Kun]

@@SamAronow That's usually what people mean when they say it's incompatible with The Hebrew Bible. I usually try to stay in the habit of saying that instead of "Old Testament" but apparently I still slip up sometimes.

[@thedemongodvlogs7671]

Awesome series! love to see the next ones!!!

[@perfectlywyrd]

Might want to check your take on the gospel of John. Much modern scholarship ties it deeply with the sectarians at qumran, expressing a deep knowledge of pre-70 Jerusalem, a preocupation with ritual purification, and a variety of other deeply Jewish ideas. Many scholars consider it the most Jewish of the gospels. This is a major shift from the previous consensus you echo of it being late and greek.

[@davidschalit907]

If you're talking about the Essenes, they were heretics from a Jewish perspective. That's why they were not accepted in Jerusalem.

[@toraparatodos]

Love your channel and I use it with my Hebrew Schoolers to learn Jewish history. You will probably cover it in this video but would love to see an episode on the Kitos Wars of 117. Shabbat shalom.

[@life-destroyerofworlds7036]

Now I want to know about the historical implications the destruction of Pompeii had on all Jews.

[@uncleambient]

These videos are great Sam, but what's with the 'At this point we must accept the Persia existed' running joke ? 😆

[@InklingThe]

Wow, this was excellent! Thank you!

[@charlesiragui2473]

It is plausible that Trinitarian theology is a product on ambient Mediterranean Greco-Roman religious thinking. But it's also just as reasonable to consider the Christian orthodox tradition: that the Apostles, confused by the Crucifixion and Resurrection, turned to their Hebrew scripture to understand what this all meant. For instance, the writings of Paul, probably the earliest extent Christian texts, are replete with citations of Jewish scripture, of which Paul, a student of Gamaliel, was an expert, probably quite unlike most of Jesus's family and fisherman followers. Much as you have said here, Bart Ehrman haș suggested a progression through the Gospels: Mark shows adoptionism, god through baptism; Matthew and Luke show god by birth; and John shows eternally exiting God. This certainly makes sense but it actually does not conflict with either what the Tradition says (iteration with Hebrew scripture and divine inspiration to understand the seemingly incomprehensible) or with your comment that John has the least to do with Judaism (meaning, increasingly, Rabbinic, post Temple Judaism). However, as is well known, the first words of John are "in the beginning" and the intention to create a second Genesis is clear. The Gospel of John is not the writing of a Greek pagan, but instead of a Jew, imbued with the culture of Galilean 2nd Temple Judaism.

[@nestorjuansavinonportorreal]

What app you use for your cartoon animations? Love your channel.

[@furrywarriors]

of course Pompeii was a Jewish cultural center, we never catch a break

[@whitewolf4096]

That’s what happens when you kill your King

[@furrywarriors]

@@whitewolf4096 Yoshke Pondrik was king of nothing and no one. If he were truly “King”, we would now live in a perfect world - his death proves his failure to live up to prophecy

[@richardglady3009]

Great video. Thank you.

[@boisesoccer]

Connecting Holy Trinity to Rome's Emperor worship or Greek methodology rituals is very questionable!

[@donutsrgood4491]

It's not questionable it's flat out wrong. He grew up Jewish and that's some of the anti Christian propaganda they are taught about Christianity. Here is a video about the Trinity in Jewish thought before Jesus. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ml7Eh4Rugqp_m8k

[@boisesoccer]

@@donutsrgood4491 Yes, you are 100% right. I have noticed in his videos Christianity is shown in negative light all the time.

[@sjappiyah4071]

Definitely, this is the 3rd video we’re misinformation about Christianity persists. It’s one thing to make the odd mistake but this is relentless misinformation…

[@richbandicoot]

@@sjappiyah4071 exactly, the gospel of John and the whole NT in general reference and rely on Old Testament Theology including the trinity

[@sjappiyah4071]

@@richbandicoot Precisely! And it’s not just Christians who feel this way. Non Christian modern Jewish scholars have also pointed this out such as Alan F. seagel and Dr. Benjamin Sommers. We have evidence of multi-personal deity belief going back to the 2nd temple period, and even within the writings of the great Jewish philosopher Philo of Alexandria.

[@x999uuu1]

Wow i didnt realize that Jewish diaspora identity started so quickly with that bit on ashkenazi

[@TheFlappening]

It predates even that, the jewish diaspora had already existed in cities throughout the various empires that Israel/Judah/Judea had been a part of.

[@zjzr08]

I read that Judean era Jews can be split between those living in Egypt, Babylonia and Judea.

[@JohnBedson]

you need to turn the music volume down.

[@Ohotniktrolly]

Genesis 18:1-15

[@GAZDAGP]

Who's the historical figure we see the most of in this? Looks like he's the most historically significant part. Oh, is that just the dude talking?

[@Cashiyado]

היי סאם, תוכל לציין בבקשה את המקור שלך באשר להכרזה של הסנהדרין בשנת 85 לספירה על משיחי השקר? לא הצלחתי למצוא מקור לזה בשום מקום

[@brianfox3092]

can i ask why u say Peter and John renouced Jewish custom? and what your sources are? just wondering?? love the channel

[@jessejojojohnson]

Acts of the Apostles, from the New Testament

[@sjappiyah4071]

@@jessejojojohnson No where in these sources do Peter, John, or Paul renounce Jewish rituals. All of them continued to practice, what they said however is that it’s not a requirement for Salvation, and thus was not imposed on the gentiles, as decided at the council of Jerusalem in 51 AD. ( Acts of the Apostles Chapter 15)

[@1HuntingShark]

Awesome videos, loved this series but could you tell me the name of the track used in the outro as it sounded nice

[@SamAronow]

All my music cues are listed in the end credits. This is "Starfall" by Two Steps from Hell. You may recognize it from some of OSP's videos.

[@1HuntingShark]

Sam Aronow thank you and yeah I caught this episode on my lunch break so had to switch off at the credits. The track I do recognise it from the OSP’s but couldn’t remember the name

[@armanmahmood9783]

What is OSP?

[@shawnwaite3026]

@@armanmahmood9783 overly sarcastic podcast

[@armanmahmood9783]

@@shawnwaite3026 podcast?

[@iasonaskolyvas9983]

Great video but plz fix the greek names of the apostles Μάρκος, Ματθαίος, Λουκάς, Ιωάννης, Θωμάς

[@shai.ben.yossef]

Hello. I'm looking for sources on the jews of Pompeii. What source did you use for the video?

[@victorsanchez5336]

How about the other Jewish Leaders with Davidic Descent the: Exilarchs. How are they compared to the Hasmoneans & Herodians.

[@allentchang]

Since you brought up MSG and garum in this video, here is my comment. When you ferment soy bean or fish, the bacteria produces all sorts of rich flavorful amino acids of which MSG is merely one of the components. The MSG sold in stores is completely purified MSG (either eveything else in the fermentation process gets filtered out or one uses genetically modified bacteria who are programmed to only produce MSG). Therefore, I would not equate garum with MSG, not to mention that concentrated MSG isn't good for you anyway. Many people who don't know how to cook adulterate their food with laundry scoops of MSG (shudder whenever I see that happening).

[@allentchang]

Also, you should do a video on tilapia and other food items in Israel like (date) honey (that is "the land of milk and honey" is actually the land of milk and sweet date syrup).

[@armanmahmood9783]

Pompeii?! Uh oh

[@Aj-zr8dz]

Christianity was the utter rejection of Roman emperor worship as well as the tendency in some Jewish communities to place rabbinic tradition over the scripture it's based on (Christians of course not being the only Jewish movement that didn't see eye-to-eye with the religious elites of the time.) The concept of the trinity and logos/memre/Word was already being developed as a means to describe the indescribable One God which the Rambam also described as a Unity rather than a single digit or object.

[@davidschalit907]

Oh, so now the Rambam was a trinitarian?! Lol!

[@Aj-zr8dz]

@@davidschalit907 He describes One as a Unity not a singularity. He was almost there.

[@davidschalit907]

@@Aj-zr8dz Up is down and water is dry, and the Rambam was almost a Christian. This is actually a good era for someone like you to live in. Men can have babies and Rabbis that would have martyred themselves before accepting Christianity were really almost Christians themselves.

[@Aj-zr8dz]

@@davidschalit907 Man take your sectarian blinders off and have a real discussion. I never even implied Rambam had any sympathies with Christianity. But he infact did describe the One as a unity not a singularity and anyone who does view God as a mere singularity is limiting and attempting to divide God which is basically what leads to paganism and idol worship. This is why the wisest among the Jews, Christians, and Muslims understand the One as a Unity. A very rich tradition among the Jewish people is Kabbalah which extrapolates on the Dynamic nature of the Unity.

[@Aj-zr8dz]

@@davidschalit907 Remember, the early Christians were mostly Jews who would rather be martyred than to accept either Roman paganism, Hellenistic atheistic and hybrid pagan Hellenized Judaism and also rejected the ultra-orthodox and very strict rabbinical control over the faith.

[@krisrp0]

I had no idea Pompeii was relevant to Jewish history

[@-kepha8828]

Can you elaborate on the early christians sacraficing in the temple before its destruction. I was aware of this, but I dont have any sources. Also, you are wrong about Peter and Paul abolishing the jewish law for their christian followers. Paul specificly concluded his writinhs by stating "what then, shall we abokish the law? Heaven forbid! We should establish it". He also said "imitate me, as I immitate Christ". And we know Christ kept all of the law. As the law was written and intended, but not according to the adultered oral traditions of the pharasees, who he accused of adding to and taking away from the written law.

[@demsyciu]

That "Jesus a literal aspect of God" is not exclusively only in the Gospel of John, that makes it- just like you said " The most un-jewish"-, but it is also in others Gospel, such as in Gospel of Luke : Luke 5:21-24 (KJV) " And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, Who is this which speaketh blasphemies? WHO CAN FORGIVE SINS, BUT GOD ALONE? But when Jesus perceived their thoughts, he answering said unto them, What reason ye in your hearts? Whether is easier, to say, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Rise up and walk? But THAT YE MAY KNOW THAT THE SON OF MAN HATH POWER UPON EARTH TO FORGIVE SINS, (he said unto the sick of the palsy,) I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy couch, and go into thine house."

[@mcw0261]

Great work! Really enjoy the history lesson. You made some interesting omissions of the conditions of the Pompeii society, I went to visit the site. You were factual incorrect about the trinity as well my friend, it's a surprisingly Jewish claim. But there are many self-proclaimed "definitions" of the trinity. And any of them that disagree with the spirit of the Torah are not correct.

[@trevor1667]

Huzzah!

[@Simon_Alexnder]

Dude, the Romans INVENTED chattle slavory...

[@thedude9941]

Did they really and what's the source?

[@MichiMind]

1:11 quote that word for word in history Do you have a first or second century sources saying Jews was called ASHKENAZ?! MADNESS of guess work accepting worldly err... The madness of guess work.. Quote a book page and line

[@joaoribeiro5938]

BHI illiterate LMAO

[@JM-ke1xm]

The summary of Christian Christology is not properly presented. And comparing Christianity to Roman Emperor worship is just beyond the pale. Christ was crucified by Roman soldiers - you surely know this. Why use such a provocative example?

[@davidschalit907]

Truly amazing that a people persecuted, murdered and exiled for 1,500 years by Christianity, would have one of its own dare to use 'provocative' lingo when describing Christian beliefs, let alone have the temerity to voice an opinion about Christianity. I mean, doesn't he understand the sensitivities of those that loved us to death for 1,500 years? What chutzpah!

[@wheelinthesky300]

Dude -get rid of the cartoon representing yourself and do some better visual storytelling. Like Invicta and Kings and Generals.

[@MichiMind]

All the sources are garbage besides Flavius Josephus. Quote them word for word

[@MichiMind]

All that forsake Messiah Jesus Christ found death