What Happened to the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel?

[@ReligionForBreakfast]

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[@stevenpictures1]

Correction: the Book of Mormon makes no reference to where the lost ten tribes went and only details people of the tribe of Judah and Joseph traveling to the americas

[@eladjellinek843]

Correction: As an orthodox Jewish person I Need to correct some points: In the story about Dvora, the name Gilad is not a name of a tribe. Gilad is the name of the land along the Jordan River at the eastern side of the river. The inhabitants of the Gilad are 2½ tribes. Also if you'll read the Bible in Hebrew you'll see that during the Shoftim years, the tribes lived each tribe to its own most of the time and only get together in danger or for holidays. So when we look at it from this perspective we can understand that the tribe under attack will call the closest tribes and not the tribes who lived couple of days (walking distance) away.

[@Love-One-Another]

Read Jeremiah 31 New Covenant and you'll find out who the House of Israel is. They were given something that the House of Judah was not. Once you figure it out, you will be shocked.

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[@stevemcgroob4446]

It always sounded weird to me when reading about the Samaritans in the Bible. It came off as the author was trying really hard to convince me that the Samaritans were in no way related to the 10 tribes, but he also wasn't doing a good job of it.

[@Gentile212]

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[@lobsterbalelegesse9919]

Samaritans are coverts they are not the 12/13 tribes.

[@tagbarzeev3571]

@@lobsterbalelegesse9919 The Samaritan Israelites have been in israel for thousands of years and they have had their dna tested.The tests show that the Samaritans Israelites have similar DNA to many Diaspora groups who live in Israel. Shen et al Reconstruction of the Matralineges and Patralineges of Samaritan Israelites or blog.23and me genetics of the Samaritan Israelites.

[@tagbarzeev3571]

@@lobsterbalelegesse9919 The Samaritan Israelites are from Manasseh Ephraim and Levi

[@youtubeaccount5153]

I had always thought the Samaritans were mixed race Jewish and their Babylonian(?) captors. Or maybe the Israelites eventually returning from captivity and intermarrying the people that settled there in their absence.

[@ezrapark9992]

The name “lost” makes people want to find them. They were lost as in dead, vanished, absorbed. Some of them became Samaritans

[@Gentile212]

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[@russellharrell2747]

Technically they were all lost, at least for 40 years.

[@TemvikMambu]

They are pastun tribe in afganistan now

[@johnbarker2650]

Damn spoiler alert much

[@Bobson_Dugnutt_Esq]

I think the vast majority of them likely became samaritans

[@zacharyhenderson2902]

Could you imagine searching for a lost tribe, having everybody telling you that you're wrong, and then finding an extent group of religiously Jewish people exactly where you believed you would? What a feeling that would be.

[@Journeyman107]

In America of course

[@zacharyhenderson2902]

@@Journeyman107 what?

[@Willy_Tepes]

@@zacharyhenderson2902 You can find them where power and riches is to be found..

[@Ahasverus92]

Keep imagining because it hasn't happened for thousands of years and chances "you" are just wrong

[@Journeyman107]

@@zacharyhenderson2902 My son

[@zenverak]

I think my favorite thing in your videos if none of it comes across as judgmental about different beliefs. You’re studying religion/culture as part of a peoples and I love it.

[@samnadim9913]

Israel built those tunnels in the 80s before moving Palestinians into the gaza open air prison from birth to death no jobs no future no electricity at night no food. Israel is an internationally recognized genocide and apartheid state. They starve pregnant women and don't allow them to leave. When their sons grow up and defend them they get called terrorists and still are not allowed to leave to this day. It's literally a concentration camp only American mainstream media and certain racist others looking to make money on innocent lives in Palestine don't call it genocide but keep calling it the pleight of the Palestinians or Israel Hamas war but we know the truth. Hands off my tax dollars for this genocide and apartheid state of Israel that is not the victim America and the world stand with the people or Palestine forever 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸 The Masonic Scofield Bible renamed Palestine published in 1913 with Israel go look at a 1905 Bible it will say Palestine not Israel in the map. Israel never meant a name for a land it's the children of Israel is the true name. They attempted to divide and conquer the three religions but will fail as God is the best of all planners.

[@diktatoralexander88]

It is really good, and helps people understand this stuff. I think most scholars when they truly get into it, either feel 'nothing new under the sun' or perhaps are spiritual themselves. The most stiff-necked people against religion in my experience are American Christians, to them it matters so much what people believe or do differently that they have to say something against it. That and your run of the mill undergrad atheist who's experience with religion is their asshole parents.

[@porkadillo9752]

Great video Dr. Henry, though I did have one issue with the insistence of this being an "unprecedented" phenomenon. What we see happening with the legend of the 10 tribes is actually quite a common occurrence in the historical record. As non literate people came into contact with literary cultures and adopted their view of history, they crafted new legends to place themselves within that new history. The Romans did it by tracing themselves back to the Trojans, as did the Irish in the Book of Invasions. Later, in West and East Africa, royal dynasties also crafted legends that connected themselves with Muhammad and his close followers in order to assert their own legitimacy as Islamic rulers. Modern day Chinese Christians even do something similar by making the 3 Magi in the Jesus birth story Chinese. It's all about trying to make sense of one's own people in the context of a foreign narrative.

[@faithlesshound5621]

So did the British and the Franks, both of whom have epics tracing their origin back to escapees from the fall of Troy. These are not part of their Germanic heritage, but came much later from educated writers. Geoffrey of Monmouth's 12th century History of the Kings of Britain traces the people of Celtic Britain back to a descendant of Aeneas named "Brutus."

[@mugikuyu9403]

@UCx3gsrPNyQiwbxmIMM82oIQ The change would be much appreciated even if you consider it to be self-evident. I simply don’t want Muhammadans thinking that their part in our history was something it wasn’t. If anything even the small part such people have played has, on the whole, affected this continent negatively. Proud nations have been turned into rubble under the explosive savagery of Muhammadanism. It would be nice to see the evidence that dynasty’s in west Africa were doing that! I don’t doubt it but I suspect you’re overplaying just how much it happened. Interesting that you say nothing about North Africans who were so thoroughly conquered by Meffistanis that they now call themselves Arabs and couldn’t tell you their own ethnic group if you asked them 😭

[@glenngordon2352]

Thousands of years ago Pyramids were built all over the world. People in Egypt didn't know that people in South America even existed. What they all have in common is the gods came from the sky, the stars. If someone or something can come from the stars it's possible that people could go the other way. We all have different opinions but it's a fact that they all said their gods came from the sky.

[@porkadillo9752]

@@glenngordon2352 lol is this your alt account Graham Hancock? Head on back to Ancient Aliens; I'm talking about actual history here.

[@mugikuyu9403]

@@hypotheticalaxolotl Is that right? Please explain.

[@jonnydent825]

I don't know that we can say it's entirely unparalleled. The Romans had a myth that they were the descendants of the survivors of Troy after all.

[@Lisa-my5sy]

A lot of Italians have Anatolian dna

[@mrbaab5932]

Big difference between conquered peoples freely migrate to a new land versus conquered elites being forced to relocate to a place(s) not of their choosing.

[@JaneDoe19635]

Don’t believe that lie, the Romans derived from northern Germanic tribes who took Italy from the Eutrucians, who were clearly from The Motherland by genetics.

[@jonnydent825]

@@JaneDoe19635 Oh, I definitely don't believe it. Just saying it was a myth they had.

[@BrandanLee]

Half of Snorri's work on the Norse Sagas was trying to convince the world the Old Norse were actually Greeks.

[@sampoth9564]

Holy crap, I took dr Tobolowsky’s History and Religion of Ancient Israel class just to fill out credits in college and its what got me into religious studies. Small world I guess

[@janelackey608]

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[@allium2718]

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[@scripturequest]

There's a good reason why the tribe of Simeon isn't mentioned in Deuteronomy Chapter 33, that being that Jacob cursed Simeon's tribe and said they would be scattered within Israel, because of their violence and cruelty against the men of Shechem. By the book of Numbers, the tribe of Simeon is the smallest to leave Egypt. I think their absence is a sign of the fulfilment of Jacob's curse upon them.

[@theerealbk9140]

that was Levi & Simeon it’s mentioned in Genesis that their violence was the reason why because they killed a whole city because of Dinah their sister being defiled

[@scripturequest]

@@theerealbk9140 It was both for sure, for whatever reason, Levi’s tribe was spared it seems

[@mysticwanderer4787]

The bottom line is, that the tribes of the Northern Kingdom were likely either assimilated into the Assyrian population which itself was quite diverse, fled to Judah, or fled to some other place nearby. The only thing that is "lost" are the minds of those pursuing the myth of the lost tribes of Israel.

[@Brahmdagh]

Like he said in the video, Empires don't generally have the incentives or the resources to move entire nation worth of ready-made taxable peasantry. They generally just take the shcolars and artisans to their capital. The peasantry remained the same, even the crusaders didn't dismantle that rural peasantry of the region.

[@iqweaver]

@@Brahmdagh The Assyrians did, and later the Romans did too. It was a good method for control. Resettling tribal groups were they had no local allegiance made them less likely to rebel,

[@tzvi7989]

Tbf tho it was reported that some of the exiled Samaritans moved to Greece in the 2nd century BCE but they weren't very popular at all

[@tzvi7989]

@@iqweaver naa historically speaking the Romans were the real first ethnic cleansers in the region. Pre-roman Classical era deportation would just be of elites who could galvanise the populous into revolting against them

[@tzvi7989]

I'd actually argue some of the "lost tribes" of Israel (i.e. people with Samaritan lineage) can be found in some northern Palestinian west bank villages. These are people who would've been forced to convert to Christianity especially under crusader rule or Islam after the Islamic conquest of the region as they unfortunately weren't seen as 'People of the Book' like Jews and Christians were. Surnames like al-Kahen (literally the arabicised version of the hebrew Cohen/priest) are a dead giveaway, for example. If they didn't keep that part of their identity and went 100% Muslim they'd have an actual arabic surname like al-Mulla or something.

[@nathanr.9507]

Listening to this while finishing my late night assignments. Love how interesting the topics that never even cross my mind can be.

[@grapeshot]

The Babylonians apparently did the same thing when they deported the Hebrews to Babylon, they only took the elites and those who had certain skill sets.

[@Gentile212]

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[@jr2904]

Showing diversity of thought and skill is important, not race or color. Meritocracy is the only way to survive, since we don't have to worry about survival of the fittest any longer.

[@porkadillo9752]

It would be impractical and pointless to do any more than that. Imagine the logistics and resources it would take to transport an ENTIRE kingdom's worth of people. Even today it would be a massive undertaking.

[@andrewsuryali8540]

@@porkadillo9752 Not really. The Trail of Tears was accomplished fairly cheaply. You'd be surprised how easy mass deportations can be done with just the right amount of political will, and these kingdoms of antiquity were much smaller. I'm not saying that this was what happened, just that it isn't as difficult as some people make it sound.

[@T-eu1tr]

@@andrewsuryali8540right, because the trail of tears was a total success story…

[@tnayenga77]

The 10 tribes of Israel married into the Assyrian culture as Samaritans while many moved to the Southern part in Judah which was destroyed in 70AD…

[@bbl5499]

There's no record for such. Samaritans biblicaly speaking are the replacement people for Ephraim in their territory. Assyryan mainly. Ephraim never returned to the land according to 2 Kings 17. To this day. Also no migration of the northern tribes into Judah ever recorded. Actually the two houses were AT odds, for that to happen, and their réunification IS timed at Messiah's return. That's the biblical paradigm.

[@fasted8468]

​@bbl5499 the Samaritan woman claimed "our father Jacob dug this well." To Jesus

[@tnayenga77]

@@fasted8468 they had a shared history with Israel until they were conquered and separated by Assyria in the 7th century BC and so her statement is partially true (2 Kings 17:6-12)…

[@LangThoughts]

An important piece missing from the video is that sometimes the 12 tribes include Levi, but sometimes he is missing, and Joseph is divided into Manasseh and Ephraim. My branch of Judaism teaches that the former is a Theological division into 12, and the latter, a political one, since the Levites were Temple functionaries, and thus had an odd place in the political realm. I am sure other Jewish groups, and different Christian denoms have their own explanation. No matter what, this is why you can have 10 lost tribes and have three left over (12-3=9) because the number 10 is based on the Split Joseph count. Also, the Jewish view is that Simeon fled north after Rehoboam, and Benjamin took his place. Also, Traditional Judaism has an interesting take that I'm surprised Dr. Henry didn't mention: Jeremiah brought members of the 10 Lost Tribes back to Judah during the reign of Josiah, though the majority of their population stayed "Lost", and thus all 12 tribes exist in Judaism today, but in the Second Temple period, these returned groups were adopted into Judah or Benjamin.

[@zimriel]

"Also, the Jewish view is that Simeon fled north after Rehoboam, and Benjamin took his place" I am interested in this. Isaac Asimov (in-between science fiction stories) conjectured that Simeon was simply assimilated into Edom, like eastern Reuben into Moab and Ammon. Such Simeonites as didn't want Edom [or Egypt] simply married into Judah. Asimov is like you and like me from the east. More like me (back then) and less like you Asimov didn't care for midrash. So - where's the midrash?

[@lobsterbalelegesse9919]

There are actually 13 tribes, the 12 is from the original 12 sons.

[@usmcairbornedaddy3761]

Lol where are Levi’s made, why did Pilgrims get corn when the Bible says Ruth ate it for dinner?

[@kathryngeeslin9509]

@@usmcairbornedaddy3761 Not sure what translation you're using (how old its language) but "corn" used to mean "grain" not just "maise", just as "apple" meant "fruit".

[@secondexodus9105]

The 12 tribes of Israel went to Africa 🌍

[@wadp5962]

Whenever I watch one of your videos I can always count on it being well researched and professionally done, which is why I like watching them. This is no different. If you read the Bible carefully you'll see that it says that once the northern kingdom was conquered there were refugees who fled to the southern kingdom. And I can't tell you how many times I've read Luke 2: 36 until my eyes were opened. It talks about Jesus being presented in the temple and says: "There was also a prophetess, Anna, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Asher." Asher is one of the so-called lost tribes.

[@biosci777]

It's nice to see someone actually reads the Bible! Yes, and Biblical archaeology has shown that, when the northern kingdom fell, Jerusalem grew to more than twice its former size. Probably, most Israelites in the northern kingdom were dispersed and lost, a Remnant always remained!

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

Thank you!

[@friedemannkemm63]

An interesting point is that according to the biblical reports in 2 Kings and especially 2 Chronicles about Hezekiah and Josiah, many Israelites remained back in northern Israel. Thus, the traditional interpretation of 2 Kings 17 would even contradict the Bible itself.

[@hdde8888]

1:48 Historical Origins of the Legend 8:43 The Samaritans 11:58 Eldad Hadani 12:50 The Book of Mormon 13:20 The Patriarchal Blessing 17:06 Research on Genealogies

[@averageday]

Ok

[@Illusory-Script]

An exaggeration of the number of people being killed and removed is not uncommon to the Bible itself. In Joshua, the conquest of Canaan, it says that the tribes of Israel wiped out all the people there, but clearly this is hyperbole because those people show up later in the stories, including the very next book.

[@blksmagma]

Its also in the Egyptian plagues where it says that a plague specifically for the cattle wipe out the entirety of the Egyptians' cattle, then there's a plague of flaming hail that wipes out the cattle again and then the last plague of the firstborn wipes out the firstborn of the Egyptians' cattle. This isn't even in a new book, its all within like 3 or 4 chapters. Needless to say, the Bible plays very fast and loose with the word "all".

[@who167]

Not to mention that archeologically there is no evidence for the battles there ever taking place, with one highly arguable exception.

[@jeanetteelmore5650]

This is how we became misi formed innitially. You haave rehearsed and commtied this to memory very well. You make it sound convincing, which is your intention. YOU AND THOSE YOU REPRESENT CONTINUE TO MISSTATE FACTS, PEOPLE, RESULTS AND TWIST HISTORY. WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO SELL IS NOT TRUE. YOU ARE REALKY INSINUATING THERE R NO LOST TRIBES OF ISRAEL

[@Dima-px6pr]

And they still live to this day

[@TheFranchiseCA]

If the Canaanites were defeated and the elites were executed, then it's easy to say they were "destroyed"... but as they re-formed, they would still exist to be fought again.

[@eladjellinek843]

Correction: As an orthodox Jewish person I Need to correct some points: In the story about Dvora, the name Gilad is not a name of a tribe. Gilad is the name of the land along the Jordan River at the eastern side of the river. The inhabitants of the Gilad are 2½ tribes. Also if you'll read the Bible in Hebrew you'll see that during the Shoftim years, the tribes lived each tribe to its own most of the time and only get together in danger or for holidays. So when we look at it from this perspective we can understand that the tribe under attack will call the closest tribes and not the tribes who lived couple of days (walking distance) away.

[@Gentile212]

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[@agis230]

I find scholars always get details like these wrong but they are sooo sure they are right about what they interpret. They assume way too quickly that every religious text must often be clumsily put together

[@eladjellinek843]

@@agis230 its not that... The translation between Hebrew wnd English makes mistakes many times and even in Hebrew, remember... Hebrew exist more than 2000 years, some words changed their meaning, and every day Hebrew is a bit different than the Hebrew you'll find in the Bible

[@agis230]

@@eladjellinek843 How is what you're saying any contrary to what I said?

[@daveyjuice7710]

But they mingled with the women to the north east and that was their blood line gone for ever

[@berwinenzemann3468]

I wonder if someday we discover aliens on another planet some people will still make the assumption that we discovered one of the lost tribes of Israel.

[@algepaca]

Absolutely

[@JezielProdigalSon]

The children of Eliah ;)

[@porkadillo9752]

There are some people practically doing that already and we haven't even found evidence of aliens yet. Never underestimate the capacity of the human imagination.

[@pennyforyourthots]

Oh absolutely. People already believe that gods themselves are aliens, so I wouldn't be surprised

[@berwinenzemann3468]

@@pennyforyourthots Yeah Enoch was supposedly abducted by aliens.🙄

[@williambeckett6336]

They were never "lost". If they existed at all in any type of form the bible describes they were simply asimilated into the Assyrian empire through deportation and resettlement. Moving peoples was a common conquerer technique for thousands of years.

[@theanonymousmrgrape5911]

1:40 “A phenomenon totally unparalleled in any other identity.” I disagree. In fact, I’d argue it’s a very common story across different identities to argue the origins of one’s culture lie in some prestigious foreign land, especially drawing from esteemed works. Perhaps the most obvious example lies with the endless list of people groups who claimed descent at one time or another from characters in the Iliad, or the Trojans as a people group. In this category, are of course the Romans, but also many later peoples, such as the Franks/French, Germans, Welsh, and even the Icelanders.

[@zimriel]

In the New World, the Mexica had the Atzlan myth.

[@madhavdeval]

Cambodia is so called because they claimed descent from the Vedic Kamboja tribe, if I recall correctly- you make a good point

[@chendaforest]

Yup, everyone likes to think they are special or unique, a special people chosen by god or something. Silly really.

[@elainechubb971]

Yes, and it's interesting that "birth" or "descent" legends can shift. When the Angles, Saxons, and Jutes migrated to Britain, the ruling families traced their descent back to Woden, their chief god. But when they converted to Christianity, the descent was pushed further back, as Woden's descent was claimed to be from a son of Noah who was born in the ark! After the Norman Conquest, when the Continental influence grew, and classical legends became known at least among the ruling class, an alternate descent from the Trojans and the ancient Romans was claimed. Aeneas (son of Venus), who escaped the fall of Troy and founded Rome (supposedly) now became the founding father of Britain, through his descendant Brutus or Brut. This all became mixed up with the legend of King Arthur, who became the symbol of the ultimately failed attempt to defend the Roman legacy in Britain against the barbarian invaders. Very confusing, particularly when one considers that the people embracing this view of history were the English, descended from those barbarians, intermarrying with the remaining British! What can be better than a divine ancestor? Two or more!

[@chendaforest]

@@elainechubb971 right, a lot of these mythologies tell us more about contemporary ideas than real history. During the nineteenth century, English identity was strongly linked to a wider Germanic or 'Teutonic' identity. This fell out of favour during the great war for obvious reasons. So the legendary King Arthur was rebranded as an English Celtic warrior who heroically fought back against the evil Hun, just like in the trenches.

[@bbl5499]

Isaiah 11-11: And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea. That day is yet to come.

[@realmless4193]

The twelve tribes is a simplified and symbolic representation of the tribal system of Israel, and that is very clear from the text itself. Firstly, the twelve tribes exclude Levi, an extremely important tribe, because they had no secular power. Various lists of the twelve tribes either exclude or include the tribe of Dan, rename Ephraim Joseph, or as in the song of Deborah, combine some of the Transjordan tribes into Gilead. There are also sub-tribes that are discussed such as east and west Manasseh, and then some tribes like Dan live in the wrong place instead of their tribal allotment, and so on. In reality, the tribal system of ancient Israel was more like 15 tribes or more, but they were simplified into the 12 tribes to represent the tribes of Jacob, however these exceptions to the idealized tribal system are almost always recorded in the Bible itself which is where we get most of our ideas of the difference between the idealized and real situation

[@sobertillnoon]

Almost like multiple writers were having trouble keeping everything straight over the centuries that these things were written and modified.

[@RogerValor]

@@sobertillnoon to be honest I think in ancient times they might have understood this better than we do now, and thought nothing of it.

[@Gentile212]

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[@jakeaurod]

Is the landless tribalization of Levi a bug or a feature? Was it an oversight and dismissal, or a reflection of a real historical tribal circumstance, or the insulation of a caste, or a development of the concept of separation of religion and state (it may fit by delanding the religious caste, but it may not fit since the Levites also filled basic civil service roles in governance, IIRC).

[@realmless4193]

@@sobertillnoon no you have no clue what is going on. It is easy to understand how the tribal system works, and your theory would require all of the biblical authors to be idiots since your saying they can't keep straight a fairly sime system. You also aren't asking the interesting question: why did they feel a need to make a 12 tribes system in the first place? The system set forth in the Bible is as follows: There are 12 sons of Jacob. (12 tribes) One of these sons (Joseph) was then given 2 tribes by his father (Ephraim & Manasseh) (13 tribes?) But Levi was not given a territorial allotment and was distinguished from the other tribes. (12 normal tribes) But then one of these tribes got land on both sides of the Jordan (Manasseh) and the portions on either side of the Jordan are called half tribes (still 12 tribes) But Dan conquered land outside of it's allotment, in Naphtali, but this is still the same tribe as Dan in the south. Further, the region east of the Jordan is distinct from the rest of Israel. It is called Gilead, and it is made up of half of Mannaseh and Gad. Also Reuben. It describes a group of tribes that cover an area, not a single tribe. So Gilead is not a tribe. Kinda. It is another name for Gad kinda, like Bashan is another name for east Mannaseh. The Bible includes ways to divide Israel other than the 12 tribes to help describe the de-facto structure of Israel but it still uses the 12 tribes o refer to the ethnic origins of the people of Israel and it places the priestly class in it's own tribe seperate from the larger 12 tribes system. This is the kind of roughness you expect from actual history and not something an author would do if they were trying to make it up.

[@mariagutierrezacevedo9526]

Excellent video Dr. Henry, concise, precise and well-researched as usual. I suggest that you should make a video explaining and comparing the differences between the samaritan and the jewish pentateuch

[@Gargoiling]

I suppose there is a parallel with the way many countries in the ancient and medieval world claimed some sort of ancestral connection to Troy. It would be interesting to do a comparison between the two and what motivates choosing one over the other over time. It also reminds me of the history of Anglo-Saxon England. The earliest real history of the invasions was written by Bede a couple of centuries after the event. This used to be taken pretty much as fact but is now seen partly in terms of later dynasties justifying their position "why I should be king".

[@chendaforest]

Yes indeed. We know very little amount the early Anglo-Saxon migrations. History and mythology have been intertwined for most of, well, history.

[@andrewwhelan7311]

Bede was a prominent racist who never left the village of his birth and got his history second hand and millennia after it was supposed to have happened.

[@chendaforest]

@@andrewwhelan7311 Racist?

[@andrewwhelan7311]

@@chendaforest Yes. An Anglo centricity focused on a master race narrative that described the native indigenous Briton's as lesser breeds. The ancient Briton's origin myths refer to a migration from the near East via Troy and eventually to the island of Britain. The later attempt by Anglo Saxon royal dynasty's making the Troy connection was cultural appropriation in an attempt to discredit a native lineage that went back centuries before the Saxon's set foot on the island. The same applies to the Arthur stories. Bede was indeed a racist, at least by today's standards.

[@chendaforest]

@@andrewwhelan7311 well maybe by today's standards but I'm not sure we should judge people from the past by modern values. We doubtless could call him an antisemite and sexists too. It's an interesting to know though how Bede created this fanciful narrative.

[@vrmartin202]

Humans love tribalism. This is certainly the best treatise of this subject I have listened to.

[@raguelelnaqum]

A good video, although I think it's important to asterisk note however that historically there were well-documented Jewish communities in Axum & Ethiopian predecessor states well before the establishment of the Solomonic dynasty. While the Kebra Nagast is largely Solomonic propaganda, Jewish merchants had been travelling to the Horn of Africa long before the Romans & Greeks invaded the region. The Jewish Himyarite empire regularly invaded &/or controlled areas of Modern Day Ethiopia, as well as regions formerly under their domain and/or influence. The case of the Beta Israel is divorced from that of the Mormons in that where the Jewish heritage of the Mormons is largely forged through Replacement Theology, the Beta Israel were born through organic migration & ethnogenesis. While yes Solomonic texts help shape the modern Beta Israel, genetic and archeological evidence both corroborate their pre-Roman Exile Jewish Identity.

[@charlesstuart7290]

There is also the Lemba Tribe of South Africa, who have long practiced Judaism, have genetic and cultural links to the Arabian Peninsula which their folklore said was their original home.

[@lloydgush]

But they still aren't the lost tribe of Dan. Much to the contrary, they are likely from judah, not lost in any sense.

[@JohnDoe10350]

Genetic evidence? I've seen the autosomal results of Ethiopian Jews and it was identical to other Ethiopian Christians'. Not even a slight Levant shift. The Afro-Asiatic speaking East Africans, the Jewish ones included, do have significant Levant or Red Sea ancestry, but it's very old and has more to do with Natufians and early pastoralism than spread of Judaism. Eritrean Christians and certain northern Ethiopian ethnic groups have more Levantine DNA than Ethiopian Jews.

[@lloydgush]

@@JohnDoe10350 Because ethiopian christians descent from ethiopian jews.

[@JohnDoe10350]

@@lloydgush In that case, so does Somalis.

[@Alexis1003-w6d]

The Ethiopian Jewish came during King Solomon’s time (they are the first born child of King Solomon’s officials). The story is that Ethiopia’s Queen Sheba came to visit King Solomon, the were intimate at one point. When the Queen Sheba left, Israel, King Solomon gave Queen Sheba a ring and said “when you go back home and found yourself with my child, send him/her to me with this ring so I will know my child” After 18 years Queen Sheba’s son Prince Minlike came to Israel and presented himself (with the ring) to King Solomon. King Solomon was very happy and was shocked Prince Minlike’s resemblance to King David (his father). Moving forward, when the Prince went back to Ethiopia, for whatever reason, the first born of King Solomon’s officials went to Ethiopia with him. The Ethiopian Jewish are the descendent of this group.

[@jonathankriesler2037]

Doesn’t seem very historically consistent. Firstly, why after 18 years? 18 years of age being the threshold to adulthood is an extremely modern idea. In Jewish tradition age 13 in the threshold or perhaps a little older for such a long trip but still 18 would have been completely arbitrary and unlikely. Also as you might know, sub Saharan Africa was almost completely cut off from the rest of Africa and euroAsia historically due to the huge dessert of wasteland between and mostly had trading ties with the Indian Ocean trading routes. So for the Queen and later the prince to make that kind of trip to a land they had absolutely no previous relation with seem extremely unlikely and borderline mythical. Their then later connection or claims of connection likely came from the Arab peninsula of which they were far more likely to be connected to.

[@rustomkanishka]

It seems most of them made it to Israel in the second half of the 20th century. Unfortunately, they aren't really well-accepted by Israeli society at large. Pity.

[@StopTheLiess]

No we didn’t. Queen Saba was already a first testament believer that’s why she has two names. One is her baptism name, Makeda and the other her birth name Saba

[@StopTheLiess]

@@BR-bi7ok that’s man made. We never had our land stolen or her lost any wars like the others through the protection of God

[@robertocabuyoc2819]

There is no lost ttibe,please dig so much the legit history about the 10 tribes.My country now a day called Philippines.Before the Spanish came Armada de Spaña the name of this archaepelago is Ophir.Please make your research more deeply

[@rainer1980]

You have to remember that a lot of Greeks, and Romans would keep slaves purely as teachers, especially to their children because this was one of the ways they gained more worldly knowledge, and wisdom. The Assyrians exiling intellectuals, artisans, and craftsman to their imperial heartland would have probably been along very similar lines.

[@nosuchthing8]

I don't doubt it, put it's amazing we don't have a first hand account. Some trademan that was forced to relocate to Assyria. I guess there was no need, they might have done quite well. And they would have to find someone that was literate, and pay them a hefty fee, etc.

[@BenjaminKeller]

I agree that there is a legend component. But from a religious point of view the tribes were actually lost because they didn't continue in the Israelite religious tradition. They were not physically lost, but lost from their religious tradition. They were not deported, but their identity (art, knowledge and power) was deported.

[@j.i.k2.044]

Makes sense

[@olafharoldsonnii4713]

They discontinued from their heritage

[@thebusybrownangel5829]

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@elfarlaur]

Great video as always. As you said, the place of the Israelites as God's chosen likely had an impact, especially as these theories exploded in the nineteenth century when ideas of racial descent became very significant. I always saw it as a similar phenomenon to the Romans connecting themselves to the Trojans, a people are introduced to a cultural context and want to fit themselves into it. In this case, Christians want to see themselves as more than simply converted Gentiles, instead they want to feel as though there was something there all along, as though their conversion was long in the making and fulfilling their destiny, connecting themselves more directly to the biblical narrative.

[@samnadim9913]

Israel built those tunnels in the 80s before moving Palestinians into the gaza open air prison from birth to death no jobs no future no electricity at night no food. Israel is an internationally recognized genocide and apartheid state. They starve pregnant women and don't allow them to leave. When their sons grow up and defend them they get called terrorists and still are not allowed to leave to this day. It's literally a concentration camp only American mainstream media and certain racist others looking to make money on innocent lives in Palestine don't call it genocide but keep calling it the pleight of the Palestinians or Israel Hamas war but we know the truth. Hands off my tax dollars for this genocide and apartheid state of Israel that is not the victim America and the world stand with the people or Palestine forever 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸 The Masonic Scofield Bible renamed Palestine published in 1913 with Israel go look at a 1905 Bible it will say Palestine not Israel in the map. Israel never meant a name for a land it's the children of Israel is the true name. They attempted to divide and conquer the three religions but will fail as God is the best of all planners.

[@toledoh5170]

I should note that the Book of Mormon specifically does not provide an account of the 10 "Lost" Tribes. (As you note, the only tribal identifier we're given is "Manasseh," and they're not among the people who were supposedly deported to Assyria.) However, the Book of Mormon does contain promises about the "gathering of Israel," leading Mormons (leaders and laypeople) throughout history to hypothesize about the present-day locations of the "lost" tribes. These have ranged from British Israelism to trying to find Israelite influence in cultures around the world to, on the fringes, believing that the tribes have a civilization around the North Pole - or in the center of a hollow earth!

[@Bureyeanne]

Lost 10 tribes may not be a physical description. In this context "lost" may be referring to the idea of having "lost" their history. There are large parts of the world where people's history is lost. For example my family history ends at being the creation of a Norse god, (which is likely a guess from a pre-industrial scholar). The point is the people of Norway for example have "lost" their history.

[@fluffysheap]

I think both of the stories of the Samaritans are true. We have good reason to believe that the Samaritans are the literal descendants of the Israelites at the time of the Assyrian conquest. Since the Samaritans only have the Pentateuch and not the whole Tanakh, the obvious first thought might be that they split off from Judah before Joshua and later books were written. But the Samaritan Pentateuch doesn't look like an ancient, pre-Assyrian document. Based on the text, it looks like something from the middle or late Second Temple period. It seems like it isn't even as old as the Septuagint! This would indicate that the Samaritans actually did lose their Israelite culture, and reconstructed it later - just like the Bible says, and completely in keeping with what would be expected if the Assyrians replaced all the elites (including, obviously, the priests). The shorter canon is probably just because Judges and subsequent books (especially Kings) don't paint a particularly positive picture of the Northern Kingdom, and because the prophetic and philosophical sections are extremely Judean in their outlook. Most of the books just wouldn't be relevant. It's certainly an interesting case, no matter what actually happened!

[@zimriel]

There's a Samaritan "book of Joshua" as well which looks like something collected during Late Antiquity. The Samaritans had the problem that, periodically, some outside force would smash them up. Then their children would have to collect the pieces again. Emperor Justinian hit them hard. The Sasanians and the first Muslims were pro-Samaritan (and Heraclius between them left them alone) but then the 'Abbasids hit them hard again.

[@信者の男]

According to the bible the northern tribes went astray ever since Jeroboam leaded them.

[@damiensutanto244]

very interesting and plausible point of view

[@andrewsuryali8540]

The Samaritan Pentateuch actually explains Deuteronomy. Historians have long been bothered by the fact that the Deuteronomistic History is very Israeli-centric instead of being Judah-centric as it should be if it was really written in the time of Hezekiah. There are even parts of the Deuteronomistic History which flat-out seem to consider the tribes of Judah and Benjamin as "others". The story of the priests "discovering" Deuteronomy in the Temple may actually reflect a real event given how the Samaritan Deuteronomy is different from the Jewish version. The current scholarly consensus is that the core of our Deuteronomy was written in the northern kingdom as an earlier attempt to centralize worship (of El, not Yahweh) at Mount Gerizim, and that traces of this can be seen in the core of the Samaritan Deuteronomy, even if the rest of the document had been "contaminated" by their reaction to the Judahite version later on. The Judahite priests probably got the original Deuteronomy and accompanying books from Israeli refugees and rewrote that canon to fit their worldview, expanding it include their own royal mythology.

[@speedwagon1824]

In his video about the samaritans, he states that their torah is as old as the Jewish one

[@Matatabi6]

Thank you for this channel it’s good there’s a whole community of religious scholars providing content like this on KZbin I appreciate you

[@travisclementsmith6949]

Wonderful presentation! In astrotheological thinking, "12" represents the Zodiac, and the sun's "journey" through them usually represents God or a hero of God. Thus, 12 tribes of Israel, 12 helpers of Horus, 12 labors of Hercules, 12 prominent Gods in a Western pantheon. I believe Ishmael goes on to have 12 sons as well. This is probably why the ancient editors chose 12 as the number of tribes, as it confers a Divine order or plan providing an identity beyond self or tribe to bind people to.

[@mrbaab5932]

Not Wester Pantheon, but Indo-European Pantheon.

[@garanceadrosehn9691]

On one minor point: Numbers 32 and Deuteronomy 3 talk about how the tribes of Gad and Reuben decide to settle in the lands of Jazer and Gilead. Over in Judges 5 there is the mention of Gilead as if it's the proper name of a tribe, but no mention of either Gad or Reuben. Also, 2 Kings 10:32+33 makes the comment _"Hazael conquered them in all the territory of Israel from the Jordan eastward: all the land of Gilead-Gad, Reuben, and Manasseh-from Aroer, which is by the River Arnon, including Gilead and Bashan"_ (although those verses are phrased a bit differently in other translations...). Isn't it plausible that at the time the book of Judges was written, the term "Gilead" was used to mean _"those two tribes of Israel who settled on the wrong side of the Jordan"?_ A single term to cover both tribes, since those two tribes had already chosen to separate themselves from the rest of Israel? A quick scan indicates that the book of Judges has zero references to Gad, and only two to Reuben, but both names show up in other books in the Hebrew bible.

[@riley02192012]

This has always been one of my favorite topics regarding the Hebrew Bible. I find it so interesting.

[@danandkiko]

This is always a fascinating topic. I live in Japan and have seen a documentary about the supposed lost tribe that "became the Japanese people." From the little that I recall, there are claimed some amazing coincidental similarities between languages, religions, and culture. Any of the countries claiming this would make a fascinating study/video. I always enjoy your videos and sometimes wish that I had followed that kind of path.

[@rowdy9379]

The American Indians DNA is linked to 3 groups in Japan

[@pharaongaming8617]

I guess it could be possible that some Jewish people influenced the Japanese culture a bit even tho Japanese aren't descended from them

[@det.bullock4461]

@@pharaongaming8617 It's more, I think, that Japanese as a language comes from a distinct group than the portion of Asia surrounding it and nobody can exactly tell to which language group it belongs to so it's easy to find a few analogies with a language of your choice if you really want. That it still tends to incorporate an inordinate number of loan words doesn't help.

[@efraim6960]

Pretty weird documentary given that present-day Japanese are mainly descendants of Yayoi and Jomon peoples and are genetically not related to middle easterns.

[@sd-ch2cq]

@@efraim6960 Most '10 tribes theories' are not doing very well when put to a DNA-test

[@TheBaconWizard]

I think it's important to consider what was important to people at these times. To the tellers of tales, ordinary people likely didn't matter too much. Thus, if you remove all the members of the ruling class, you have "removed everyone".

[@omfgstrid]

This is a lovely and informative episode as usual. I rly didn’t care much about religious scholarship before I came across this channel but I’m glad I did

[@benayahbendavidgavinrodrig1017]

So you like the Kool Aid he is sharing, 😢poor lost soul , wondering about the lost tribes 🤣😄😂😃

[@omfgstrid]

@@benayahbendavidgavinrodrig1017 such weird energy to bring cuz why????

[@stultusvenator3233]

Yes, it is fascinating, and it seems many "religious scholars" do indeed say different things in Academic Circles and at Conferences than they do when doing apologetics or getting paid to address church groups. A wicked web indeed. What we learn or have been told often is more tradition or doctrine, than it is based in any fact and so much has been completely overturned by research, discoveries and archelogy. Make you think.

[@dengar96]

​@@stultusvenator3233 its not surprising. There isn't much money or respect in objective studies of religious history. If you can leverage your bonafides as a scholar to pander to a wealthy group of religious extremists, you stand to gain quite a bit.

[@MythVisionPodcast]

This was such an amazing video Dr. Henry! The Lost tribes of Israel topic is fascinating. It's impressive to see how the mythology continues to evolve over time.

[@Tzimiskes3506]

The clown is here...

[@rainbowkrampus]

@@Tzimiskes3506 Hi, clown.

[@Tzimiskes3506]

@@rainbowkrampus your projecting rainbow. Calm down. Just start thinking a bit more and you might just fall from the peak of the dunning-kruger curve, rainbow.

[@rainbowkrampus]

@@Tzimiskes3506 Ha! Now do the thing with the tiny car.

[@tomrhodes1629]

Very informative video. And here is why the tribes of Israel were rendered ambiguous. For thus sayeth The LORD: "All who seek Truth are Israel. Spirit is life, the flesh counts for nothing." Elijah has returned, as prophesied.

[@bobgriffin316]

Sargon, king of Assyria 722 - 705 BC says in his records that he took 27,280 people out of the ten tribes to Assyria which is a very small proprtion of the population. It happened in 722 BC. That record is written close to the time and is probably quite accurate. The Assyrians did not say that they took over Jerusalem in 700 BC when they invaded Judah and took over many other cities. It was embassassing not to say that they took over Jerusalem. So it seems that they are quite truthful. I give free tours of the Assyrian section etc (Biblical sections) of the British Museum on Wednesday afternoons at about 2pm onwards when I get there.

[@adamprice3466]

Assyrian policy was to take the best of the best. The noble families and the skilled tradesman, those who knew how to read and write etc etc. That 27k would've been most of the administration of the kingdom.

[@mcgeorgerl]

In order to relate how many were transported out of the total population, we'd also have to know the number of Hebrews who died or were killed in the 3 years it took to end the siege.

[@Innomenatus]

You can actually find this identity of the Samaritans when a Samaritan woman talked to Jesus, and talks about their shared ancestry.

[@amram1305]

Your right...she is of the Northern Kingdom and Christ is Southern Kingdom, but both are Israelites. Their father Jacob had the well built.

[@erin6083]

I find the Samaritan people so fascinating- I don’t know very much about them but everything I learn is so interesting.

[@MoneyLinez]

The Lady Yasha Shalam Barakha conversed w was from the 10 Tribes of Yashar'el and called a Samaritan. An immediate Neighbor to 2 Southern Tribes of Yashar'el. The Woman clearly said Yacob Shalam Barakha was the Father of her and the well he built. The Tribes of Abraham (Shalam Barakah )are mixed in with ALL Races. Right Now the Samaritans in Israel are Pale skin people's. They have Ancient Customs dating back to Yacob( Shalam Barakah) that they still follow today . Their are mixed people all over the middle east from Light Skin Tan Skin Red skin Brown Skin to Black skin . We are Sons of Elohim . All who believe in The Shema and Commandments of Hear O Israel Thier is ONE ELOHIM and Love him with all your Heart Soul and Mind. Love your Neighbor as you Love yourself then you will be a Faithful servant of Yahusha Ha Mashiak YAH Elohim . His Sacrifice is Ultimate. His Sacrifice atoned for Mankind's Sins. Yasha came as a Lamb , Servant , Prophet , Messenger, Master, Mashiak and The Son of YAH Elohim ( Bin Yahu Elohim) and He comes back as a Lion King to bring Salvation to All Mankind and to bring Justice amongst all unrighteousness and Make War with His Enemies. The most important part is Our Relationship with Elohims Son Yahusha Ha Mashiak . We will be resurrected and/or Raptured ( Post Tribulation Pre Wrath stage )and Renewed to a Spiritual Body that is Perfect.

[@Innomenatus]

@MoneyLinez1 Samaritans are the closest to Ancient Israelites genetically. Whilst Jews come in all different races in the modern day, Samaritans are Middle Eastern in ancestry, like their Ancestors. They were not Black, but what one would consider Olive Skinned, which are varying shades of light to dark tan.

[@leepaul6630]

(Around 5;50) - even at this early age, we see the removal of artisans, craftsman, and people of knowledge. They are separated from the general populace, used to the advantage of the few, and the general populace is cultivated like an ever replenishing band of drones to serve the large machine of the state. It hasn’t changed at all, has it?

[@matthewbateman6487]

I know this subject is enough for an entire semester/course -- but I'm surprised with your mention of last Ethiopian Emperor, Haile Selassie, that you wouldn't also include references to Rastafari. Great video -- and very informative.

[@LaNina_DJ]

Yes we need to hear about the Rasta 12 tribes!

[@matthewbateman6487]

@@LaNina_DJ Well, I think '12 Tribes' is a 'denomination' (if I may) of Rastafari... But, generally speaking, Rastas see themselves as spiritual successors to Israel, if not also literally.

[@alphavegas1]

If you know this subject that well. I have a question. The Lemba tribe in Zimbabwe and South Africa. Are they decendants of the Hebrew priests?

[@matthewbateman6487]

@@alphavegas1 I do not know the answer to that one, sorry :/

[@johnr6087]

@@matthewbateman6487 Man I feel like a lot of Rastafarianism is much closer to an ethical, Theistic religion than the Orthodox Christianity I was raised in. I really respect their commitment and I consider myself really lucky I got to see Sister Carol live at a Reggae concert.

[@yosh3058]

The real 10 lost tribes were the friends we met along the way.

[@porkadillo9752]

My favorite part of the gospels was at the last supper when Peter said: "So thas it? What? This some kinda...New Testament?" and then everyone clapped as the credits rolled. Almost as good as the time Moses said "It's Mosin' time" and then he Mosed' all over Pharaoh and his army. Truly one of the stories of all time.

[@secondexodus9105]

Israelites came from Africa

[@davidripplinger8904]

This comment wins the internet today.

[@secondexodus9105]

@@davidripplinger8904 if only those 10 friends along the way were not antisemitic, I would have gladly accepted that fantasy

[@Numba003]

Thank you for very interesting listening for my wife and I this evening. I really enjoy learning about the history within and behind the Bible. God be with you out there everybody. ✝️ :)

[@samnadim9913]

Israel built those tunnels in the 80s before moving Palestinians into the gaza open air prison from birth to death no jobs no future no electricity at night no food. Israel is an internationally recognized genocide and apartheid state. They starve pregnant women and don't allow them to leave. When their sons grow up and defend them they get called terrorists and still are not allowed to leave to this day. It's literally a concentration camp only American mainstream media and certain racist others looking to make money on innocent lives in Palestine don't call it genocide but keep calling it the pleight of the Palestinians or Israel Hamas war but we know the truth. Hands off my tax dollars for this genocide and apartheid state of Israel that is not the victim America and the world stand with the people or Palestine forever 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸 The Masonic Scofield Bible renamed Palestine published in 1913 with Israel go look at a 1905 Bible it will say Palestine not Israel in the map. Israel never meant a name for a land it's the children of Israel is the true name. They attempted to divide and conquer the three religions but will fail as God is the best of all planners.

[@Urbangardener1]

Very eclectic and pedantic. Just the way I like it. I have been studying this stuff for a while and you are closing some of the gaps for me. It was as I suspected. Eclectic and pedantic. Just the way I like it. Well done and thank you for all of your hard work. It clearly shows in the material that you present.

[@adamnoturfuknbusiness2367]

Lots of ancient European literature claims that their people are descended from exiles of Troy the same way the Aeneid claimed that for the Romans, or atleast ancient french and british literature I know of does. This is kinna like claiming to be a different tribe of romans, but it's not common at all today I think. But you also gotta consider "tsars" were still around until a century ago.

[@aldontheelf4267]

This is really good. I just showed my family your video on the Samaritans and this feels like a timely prequel.

[@avjack2702]

We're still here though lost in minds ❤

[@T-eu1tr]

I think it’s hilarious how literally every race is claiming to be a lost tribe in this comment section. The Judeo-Christian religions of Jewish supremacy really got to y’all.

[@TheSorcererAhrimanahsul]

It's sad that so many people have lost their cultural identity that anything that feels like it makes them feel special must be where they came from. I have such a huge mixed ancestry that it's not even funny, took me years but I'm finally happy just being Me! I hope anyone reading this finds comfort and solace in Just Being Satisfied with the fact they are alive and a Part of The Whole aptly named The Human Race! I loved your explanation here Sir very eye opening.

[@porkadillo9752]

A lot of people saw it as necessary to place themselves in Abrahamic history after conversion to Judaism, Christianity, or Islam. The Romans did something similar by placing themselves in Homeric history by identifying themselves with the Trojan prince Aeneas. It's all about trying to fit yourself in someone else's story.

[@arnulfo267]

I notice that this obsession with ancestry is mostly a North American thing. Probably because most of us who live here aren't native to the land. We either come from Europe or Africa or Asia or somewhere else.

[@TheSorcererAhrimanahsul]

@@arnulfo267 I'm a 4th generation American my ancestors came from Ireland and Germany and I have two different native American blood lines. So I'm a bit of a mixed mutt

[@mugikuyu9403]

It is very tragic. I’m the case of my people (The Agikuyu) we had a monotheistic religion that was a completely separate development from Abrahamic monotheism. Our ancestors had independently come to the conclusion that there was only One God and for hundreds of years had their own stories concerning God and their own manner of worship. Today, unfortunately, many of us worship and understand God through the historical and cultural lense of someone else. it is very tragic!

[@Gentile212]

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[@HaroldCrews]

Personally I think it is either simply myth or that the "missing tribes," if they existed at all, evaporated into the surrounding peoples through mixed marriages very long ago. If any survivors of the "missing tribes," again assuming they existed, had maintained their Jewish and perhaps tribal identities and traditions, then at some point they would have attempted to contact or form communities with members of the known Jewish tribes. Additionally, there would have been something that survived. There would have been an otherwise inexplicable Hebraic influence on the language or arts of the gentile population or something.

[@adamprice3466]

According to the Bible the vast majority of Israelite tribes were never jewish.

[@jilldybel4695]

Yes. Search the Lemba tribe of Southern Africa

[@tomjackson1661]

They weren’t Jewish but Israelites the Israelites being the ten lost tribes.

[@darrylbatchem8985]

The 10 lost tribes were never lost at all they were just diaspora. When you consider the geographic spread contained in Acts 2. Not mysticism at all.

[@RealCurrencies]

Weird to discuss this without mentioning the apocryphal texts relating that the remnants of the Ten Tribes managed to escape the Assyrians, and went through 'the Gates of the Caucasus.

[@jtfam363]

Not just the apocryphal but historians as well. No one talks about any of it. They are "lost" 🙄

[@VictorSelowa-oq5sv]

are you referring to The Maccabees?

[@cuckoophendula8211]

Oh man, I'm only 2 minutes in, and I'm now extremely interested in learning more about the rumors of how my grandfather on my father's side of my family may have had ancestral connections to Jewish communities near Keifeng, China (some people on my father's side of the family have different hair than other Chinese). I never really read much into that particular community, but I'm now really wondering if anybody there claimed that the community may have had ancestry from the 10 lost tribes, haha. EDIT: Thanks for all the comments and more information for me to delve into. Just a quick update that I have talked about the topic a little bit with my dad afterward, and it turns out that my 1st cousin on that same side of the family did get a DNA test and confirmed that she's 2% Jewish! So unless there's that tiny chance that someone on her mother's side of the family also happens to have that lineage as well, I can more than safely conclude that I'd be around 2% as well.

[@algepaca]

I guess that might be unrelated, but I think a lot of Uyghurs converted to Judaism at one point in history if I remember correctly 🤔

[@cuckoophendula8211]

@@algepaca Oh very interesting! I guess I need to look into that as well, haha

[@revcrussell]

I watched a documentary regarding Chinese that the documentary was claiming were of the lost tribes. They ate pork but only when mixed with ashes. Seems unlikely.

[@GaviLazan]

Keifeng Jews are a real thing, and are recognized (for the most part) by mainstream Judaism. Not even "lost tribes", just Jews who immigrated to China and mixed with the local population. There's a good wikipedia article about it and also a video on the Unpacked channel called "How Jews Ended Up in India and China"

[@algepaca]

@@GaviLazan Nice, thanks!

[@tribudeuno]

The very controversial pastor - Gene Scott - in his televised teachings spoke of the deported tribes of the Kingdom of Israel. He would speak of the time after their release from captivity going north to just south of the Caucasus Mountains, where they disappeared. Just after their disappearance, the Celtic peoples appeared north of the Caucasus, where grave markings have been found that are in pre-Babylonian captivity Hebrew script. He then described how one of the tribes - Dan - left its patriarch’s name all across Europe i.e. The River Dan, Gdansk, The Danube. And they eventually ended up in Ireland, where the Celts had cities of refuge for people who accidently killed someone could run to, as given in the Mosaic Law. I guess that this was taken by some to an extreme known as British Israelism, but it was still an interesting take on the subject…

[@phelimridley6727]

@tribudeuno The Celtic people that the British Israelites had an interest in were the Tuatha de Danann of Ireland. Convinced that they were descended from the Tribe of Dan. In the 1890s a group of British Israelites travelled from London to Ireland on a pilgrimage of sorts. They proceeded to dig in the ruins of the Hill of Tara, looking for the Ark of the Covenant. Didn't find it. But their amateur archaeology did some damage on this prehistoric site. Even yet the British Israelites are not remembered too kindly in the Boyne Valley, an important population centre in county Meath, Ireland's royal county.

[@jezzarisky]

The patriarchal blessings in Mormonism and the lineage from different houses of Israel is a weird subject since even in Church approved materials seems mixed to whether it's a bloodline, or in other areas, that we are adopted into the house of Israel and are essentially symbolically from houses of Israel to receive blessings described for each different tribe. It's also a likely adaptation with time, but I think most modern members of the LDS church generally believe that not all Native Americans are descendants of Manasseh, and that there were other groups living in the Americas, though there is also a book in the Book of Mormon that describes another Biblical group that came to the Americas sometime after Noah's flood in addition to the main group(and a small second group that also made their way to the Americas the same time). I think the adaptation is the idea that this main group of Nephites and Lamanites likely died out as a way to explain the genetic make up of Native Americans not matching the way one would expect were they from the Levant.

[@alexarnold6253]

So it's actually not a mixed concept. You are adopted into a tribe if you are not of direct lineage. The patriarchal blessing just reveals the tribe that one belongs to. And it's also taught in the church that there were definitely already people in the Americas and as such, there isn't a belief that the native Americans were exclusively the people's from Jerusalem. The book of Mormon actually has two accounts of Hebrews coming to the Americas several hundred years apart.

[@tzvi7989]

But that's a bit of a fallacy tho. Pretty much every (coastal) culture has a flood myth. Aside from dragon/serpent/wyrm/worm myths they're one of the oldest myths around first originating at the end of the ice age. Therefore there really isn't anything special about the Noah's ark flood myth. Even the Australian aborigines have one. All it shows is that multiple cultures have been affected by floods for millennia

[@tzvi7989]

@@alexarnold6253 see the problem with this concept is that the native Americans settled there after migrating through Siberia 25000 years ago which means they predate all Abrahamic religions somewhat

[@NormBoyle]

I was told that I was adopted I to the tribe of Ephraim. Those that actually tell the patriarch that they have Jewish or Levitical ancestry are generally told that they are entitled to the blessings of Israel and not adopted, particularly the Levites, who are told that they are already priests basically. Jehovas Witnesses do the same thing, but say the blessings of Israel were taken away and given to the Jehovas witnesses spiritually rather than phisically.

[@alexarnold6253]

@@tzvi7989 the native Americans came from all over from several periods of time. Not exclusively from Siberia.

[@yiannicart]

It also should be noted that the New Testament mentions some of the lost tribes, such as the prophetess Anna being from the tribe of Asher (Luke 2:36), showing that in the first century, the Israelite tribal identities still existed in the region. Levi, Benjamin and the 'scattered 12 tribes' are all also mentioned throughout the New Testament.

[@veritas2145]

Those lost tribes are called gentiles, and Greeks in the New Testament.

[@sidvicious647]

The Tribe's where never lost but scattered.

[@minusstage3]

Amen Sid! 25

[@robinellis6237]

God says they - are lost to themselves . and not to him God is spirit those who rship Him who riphinspirit und truth

[@sidvicious647]

@@minusstage3 🤝🤝🤝

[@sidvicious647]

@@robinellis6237 Yes However there's a special place for Physical Yisrael and that's the Word of THE MOST HIGH YAH. Isaiah chapter 11.

[@shainazion4073]

*_The Answer my friend is blowing in the wind, the answer is blowing in the wind......._*

[@justinmatthews4961]

Great video; however I just wanted to say that you mentioned Gilead as being a tribe forgotten or something but Gilead actually just refers to Reuben Gad and East Manasseh which settled on the east side of the Jordan River. It’s just a name for that land area

[@knows_too_much]

Great video. The only thing missing here is the mention of Genetic Studies, which also shed some light on the topic.

[@cernowaingreenman]

Yes, I remember hearing that, possibly on 60 Minutes?, that some male Ethiopian Jews had the specific Y chromosome that identified them as Jewish. I'm not sure how accurate that is now given the research in genetics since then.

[@lobsterbalelegesse9919]

Genes don't necessarily prove much because different people can have similar genes and not be related.

[@stellamarina4123]

DNA of Samaritans says they are Jewish

[@secondexodus9105]

The 12 tribes of Israel went to Africa 🌍

[@lobsterbalelegesse9919]

@@stellamarina4123 There is no "Jewish " DNA BTW dna is science not Biblical. They r tricking people they really mean Semitic DNA they do the word play BS. Why is Samaritan religion so different than the Torah? Because they are not.

[@dillmo28]

plot twist, we're the same species and shockingly are all related

[@solokalnesaltam3015]

Great episode! Always a good day when RFB uploads

[@Gentile212]

Heea a great video on the 12 lost tribes kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipa8fHmPbshrbbs

[@brianhenry7348]

Thank you very much! What a deeply fascinating subject. New facts and ideas for me to absorb and a new book to read!

[@IslamRespect_WOMENsigma]

If you are wondering, the Levite’s weren’t counted as a tribe and settled all of Israel, that is why we have levites like me here today.

[@NormBoyle]

The male Levite Y DNA line is very consistent and even matches Ethiopian Y DNA. Interestingly, the Levites I Samaerian society is also consistent, but doesn't match the other, but does match some egyptian priests. I'm not saying one is more accurate. Israelites did come out of Egypt and some in the Bible, like Joseph, had egyptian spouses. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-chromosomal_Aaron

[@bensplace2075]

2:38 the Gilead is the Hebrew name for a region across the Jordan river, extending from the Sea of ​​Galilee in the north and the Dead Sea in the south. Nowadays in Jordan territory. the two tribes who shared that area in that verse were Gad and half of Menashe.

[@charlesfu3726]

This is analogous to the process through which Romans, Medieval Franks and Icelanders became descendants of a handful of Trojan refugees fleeing the Iliupersis.

[@Gentile212]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipa8fHmPbshrbbs a good video for you to watch..

[@Goralyna123]

My sister was given a DNA profile by her children for her birthday, and we were surprised at the variety of races found in her (our) DNA. According to our genealogy, we’re 3/4 Irish, 1/4 English. But our DNA had 1.3% Middle Eastern and 1.0% Ashkenazi Jewish. There’s been so much intermingling through trade, war and migration, I think we all have traces of many races in our blood. I like that idea.

[@earljohnson2113]

Absolutely. I have stud blood. 😉

[@Little_Sidhe]

@The Great Gazoo You're spouting post modern twaddle, there are marked differences between races.

[@angelashort1331]

God's great big melting pot , 🙏 🙌 ❤ 😍 ♥ 💕 🙏

[@urakoren7288]

I found that I am 99.8% Ashkenazi Jew.

[@earljohnson2113]

As least there is no "Black".

[@madderhat5852]

Fascinating. The desire to be part of a greater 'other'/truth is very seductive. The huge growth in genealogy DNA sites and people finding their roots as many have lost track of their family lines.

[@kenkeith2277]

Deuteronomy 28:64 KJVS - And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone.

[@kalebj7001]

The Identity crises! well pretty much every population group in almost all civilizations in history had this obsession of attaching themselves with lineage that is divinely significant. This may give rise identify theft, masking, hijacking, absorbing, deleting, creating, mixing Identity roots to establish themselves as a significant population. Most probably the 10 tribes never really identified themselves as significant tribes during the invasion of Assyrians. Perhaps they just lived as integrated folks of Samaria. So when they were dispersed or some exiled it didn't really seem like the 10 tribes but a bunch of Samaritans getting exiled.

[@silverchairsg]

As a writer, I'm getting lots of inspiration and ideas from this.

[@freyatilly]

Nice work and presentation. The Ethiopian connection, as I understand it, is an extention to the Yemeni claims. That Sheba was in, what is now called, Yemen. The Queen there traveled to Judia and later returned, possibly bringing an early semblance of the Judaic faith with her. Then, through historic events, those people were scattered and many ended up in neighbouring Ethiopia where strong trade relations and cultural customs were clearly evident.

[@Yorktown-pb8bd]

The vast majority ended up in Europe. From there the Bible was spread to the earth. The United States is and always has been the largest producer of bibles in the world. Sorry lot we have for leadership today. Africa did not fulfill the prophecies. My ancestors were Hebrew ostrogoths on the Danube Riveraround 600AD. Yes they were Hebrews.

[@jamesdelrogers542]

I know what the lost 13th tribe is , It's commander amadella And the battle start galactica With its rag tag Fugitive fleet .........

[@RKMalo13]

Great video! I love your content. Please don't ever stop sharing this awesome information!

[@BrianStanleyEsq]

But the story linking the Romans, through Aeneas, to the Trojans was itself an instance of one culture's effort to graft itself onto a previous high-status literary history. If anything in the ancient world approached the status of the Bible in early Christian cultures it was the Homeric epics. By claiming the minor Homeric hero Aeneas as their own the Romans gave themselves a seat at the long-running banquet of the Iliad, just as later Europeans sought a status-boost by claiming kinwhip with the "chosen" Hebrews.

[@StopTheLiess]

The Romans were in involved because they ruled over Israel.

[@asakim6717]

Great video and I do have a question as someone interested in this subject: If the Bible uses the male/Paternal line as the way to determine lineage to one of the 12 tribes, then why does modern day Israel use the female/Maternal line to determine Jewish status? If I understand this correctly then in this thought experiment, if my: Mother is only Jewish: then it's possible that I'm legally a Jew based on modern day Israeli law, but may possibly have no association with one of the 12 tribes Father is only Jewish: then it's possibly that I could be a descendent from one of the 12 tribes, but not a Jew based on current Israeli law I just find this interesting and would definitely like to know more about this topic, maybe for a future video topic? Thanks!

[@ntmn8444]

It’s been rabbinic tradition since even before Jesus’ time to always account for someone’s Jewishness based on the mother. Mother determines if you’re Jewish, because it can easily be verified. But father still gives lineage, even to this day.

[@horacelawson6871]

@@ntmn8444 that is the definition of jewish. 1980 Jewish Almanac says, "Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a Jew or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew." Please note that the letter J was introduce into the english alphabet around 1650 A.D. There is no letter J in the Hebrew alphabet. If DNA testings, we can put a lot of these question about ancient to modern day people population to rest. All is needed is to test the ancient people population in time to current population to determine is who is closely related to whom. We need to remember for the people of old their culture was their religion (a way of life).

[@code-52]

Thank you for real, documented facts.

[@stevenpictures1]

Correction: the Book of Mormon makes no reference to where the lost ten tribes went and only details people of the tribe of Judah and Joseph traveling to the americas.

[@larryfrakous1332]

True, but man I love a shout out

[@stevenpictures1]

@@larryfrakous1332 me too bro. I feel like people don’t respect Latter-day Saints enough to do a full research video on our history or beliefs. But hey, I do recommend you subscribe to “This Saint’s Theory” on KZbin.

[@larryfrakous1332]

@@stevenpictures1 will do, thanks! Always looking for better religious YT

[@porkadillo9752]

@@stevenpictures1 With all due respect, I'm not sure if you would want a historical critical scholar to do a full research video on the Latter-Day Saints. From past experience Muslims, Orthodox Jews, and other Christians tend to consider that kind of research insulting and blasphemous.

[@stevenpictures1]

@@porkadillo9752 I think it’s possible to do it in a respectful and honest manner. I know even when people make fun of the church we tend to respond positively. Like when the Book of Mormon musical was a thing, the church responded by putting ads in the show pamphlet, “Now you’ve seen the show go read the book.”

[@toyoudosen6958]

Thanks for another great video Dr Henry. I was wondering if you still had plans to release videos about more African Diaspora Religions.

[@gkmchardy4]

This was an extremely well-done analysis in my mind. I cringe when outsiders of my faith group try to analyze my faith group's doctrine or beliefs. The brief portion concerning our peculiar beliefs was so well crafted that I have no reason to doubt that all the other segments were researched and presented just as well. Thank you.

[@robertcarter8600]

Healthy sobering look onto tumultious legends and stories. Thanks!

[@mattisvov]

Jokes aside, this was a very informative video. The tribes of Israel is one of those subjects I have only heard mentioned (mostly in a religious context), but never knew much about.

[@ameribeaner]

Yay I’m first LoL 🤪 So just finished the video, great video! Very informative as usual. Can’t accurately describe how excited I get when I’m notified that ReligionforBreakfast has uploaded a new video.

[@thepeff]

Doing it ironically still makes you a follower

[@Gentile212]

You will enjoy this channel 💙😁🙏 kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipa8fHmPbshrbbs

[@ShaunCKennedyAuthor]

Useful Charts also had a video on the Book of Mormon and mentioned how it fits into the mid-nineteenth century ideas about the lost ten tribes.

[@ethanjacobrosca7833]

He also made a video where he explains why British Israelism is wrong. Matt himself grew up in a cult that preached British Israelism.

[@Gentile212]

Here's a good video for you to watch kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipa8fHmPbshrbbs.. Enjoy 😁💙

[@secondexodus9105]

The 12 tribes of Israel went to Africa 🌍

[@milkman2808]

Just a clarification on Mormon theology relating to Israelite ancestry. The “patriarchal blessing” reveals which tribe one is to be adopted into, rather than declaring actual lineage from that tribe. The reason most members of the religion are of the tribe of Ephriam is based on the idea that the tribes of Ephriam and Manasseh were tasked with the charge of taking the gospel to all the earth, so naturally they would be the ones to adopt the Gentiles into the fold of Israel (Deuteronomy 33:13-17).

[@IAMCUBEMAN]

Long time viewer of the channel. As a devout latter day saint (largely referred as Mormon), I appreciate the way you refer to my beliefs and religion, in a very respectful, scholarly way. While I can't speak personally for the then cultural interpretation of the tribe declaration in a patriarchal blessing because it's not a part of my church's early history I'm well versed in, the modern understanding is that during baptism, you are adopted into a tribe of Israel rather than declared a literal descendant (which there's little scientific evidence to support that would even be possible), and that the tribe you are adopted into is revealed through divine power during the patriarchal blessing. This is to fulfill the Abrahamic covenant that only the descendants of Abraham will be exhalated. The interpretation of declaring a genetic lineage would be discounted solely on that your tribe may differ from your ancestors to whom a tribe was also declared. I enjoy your content, and look forward to future content 👍

[@Leif208]

Your understanding isn't quite correct. From the Church website: "The question is raised hundreds of times each year throughout the Church: Are Church members literal descendants of Israel, as most patriarchal blessings state? Or are we Gentiles and belong to the house of Israel only by adoption? The answer is important, for the literal seed of Abraham are the natural heirs to the remarkable promises given anciently to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Most members of the Church understand the principles of heirship and adoption, but they often misunderstand the meaning of some key terms in the scriptures... we can see that the lineages declared in patriarchal blessings are almost always statements of actual blood lines; they are not simply tribal identifications by assignment... From what the prophets have said, then, most members of the Church come from Gentile nations, but they have some Israelite ancestors in their lineage. Therefore, they are not “assigned to” or “adopted into” the house of Israel."

[@2degucitas]

I wish you would tackle the very unique and intriguing Shinto temple on Mt Moriya in Japan. It's a replica of hebrew temples and has a spring festival of a mock sacrifice of a young boy tied to a post ("sacrifice" not done anymore). The priestly caste are familial and they wear phylacteries on their forehead.

[@andreborges2881]

There is none by this description. Do your research beforehand other than expecting others to do it for you

[@alg11297]

On a lighter note, in the film Cat Ballou (1965) a western comedy, a rancher has in his employ an Native American whom he also says is very stubborn. The rancher was told by his minister that the Native Americans were the descendants of the Jews of the Bible. So he takes the young Indian man to Mr. Bernstein in the telegraph office to speak to him in Hebrew, "and that damn stubborn Indian pretended he didn't understand a word Bernstein was saying."

[@olafharoldsonnii4713]

Jews is a representative of Judah. Native Americans are descendants of the 12 TRIBES. They’re from the tribe of Gad

[@alg11297]

@@olafharoldsonnii4713 How did the tribe of Gad make it across the Mediterranean and the Atlantic Ocean back then?

[@olafharoldsonnii4713]

@@alg11297 It wasn’t only the tribe of Gad, the ten tribes together came to the Americas. They went through Assyria out of the Persian gulf, onto the Arabian Sea down to the Indian Ocean hugging the Horn of Africa all the way around to the South Americas, then ventured upwards to North America. Read 2nd Esdras 13 for the journey of the ten tribes.

[@olafharoldsonnii4713]

@@alg11297 They left when the Assyrians were being attacked and taken down by another nation, that’s when they decided to leave.

[@olafharoldsonnii4713]

@@alg11297 Also, Arsareth is in the Jewish encyclopedia. It is referred to as the Americas. The indigenous population of the Americas, are descendants of the ten tribes

[@ECKohns]

Well by the time the land Split between the Northern Kingdom of Israel, and the Southern Kingdom of Judah, there had already been enough intermingling when the Kingdom was United that the Judeans weren’t exclusively descendants of Judah and Benjamin.

[@mrwelshmun]

I heard a story that us Welsh are a lost tribe of Isreal (not sure how much truth there is) but LangFocus channel has a video on strange similarities between Welsh and Hebrew languages

[@holybibledefenders8793]

more than likely some of them are decendents , it was never about color but nationality alot of them were black people , look up the history of the moores

[@Ian-nl9yd]

There's a phenomenon called British Israelism. After the protestant reformation, sects among the English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish varyingly claimed that their people descended from a lost tribe.

[@devintaylor8702]

My Grandmother told me our Ancestors came from the MEDITERRANEAN area North Africa and we had DNA test and it blew my mind my Grandmother was right and plus we had some Jewish Ancestry amazing and North African also with European, West African Ancestry so Israel is Really scattered all over the world awesome 😇

[@shainazion4073]

Devin, did you show as Berber? And then you also showed Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry? Where in West Africa? Sounds fascinating.,

[@chromosomegun5845]

More on ancient Canaanite religion please, how Yahweh in the South and El in the North eventually became one God to be worshiped in one temple.

[@secondexodus9105]

Semites have Haplogroup E1B1*

[@chromosomegun5845]

@@secondexodus9105 Not all Semites but many do me included

[@secondexodus9105]

@@chromosomegun5845 I would have to respectfully disagree, all people with Haplogroup E1B1* lineages have a direct lineage to Proto Semites. the Natufians were the earliest known people to have a Semitic culture in the Judean mountains of Natuf. The DNA 🧬 extracted from the Natufians belong to Haplogroups E1B1* and it's sister clads. Any other Haplogroup such as A, B, and CT-F lineages are not found among the Proto-semitic people like the Proto-semitic Natufians

[@chromosomegun5845]

@@secondexodus9105 There are millions of people who identify as Semites and have J haplotypes. The presence of E1B1 is also all over north Africa and they do not speak Semitic languages

[@secondexodus9105]

@@chromosomegun5845 languages unfortunately are not as reliable as DNA 🧬. There are people around the world who speak the Indo European Germanic language of English despite not being ethnically descendants of the Germanic peoples

[@sharonlaudi8409]

One theory. The lost tribes moved out after 70ad when the temple was destroyed. They moved into the steppes and intergrated into whole of Europe, later migrated into the Americas

[@matasmuts9908]

Those where the kingdom of Judah

[@stevenscholes3244]

I was surprised you didn’t bring up the Battlestar Galactica connection! The original book was based off the question “what if the lost tribes went into space?” Also, on the subject of the LDS Patriarchal Blessings, if a person does not have a literal genetic descent from one of the tribes of Israel, then they are adopted into one. People of European descent are typically Ephraim, Pacific Islanders are almost always Manesseh, and Russians and Eastern Europeans are a toss up of almost anything! It is also possible for people in the same family to have different tribes.

[@fuschiawarrior2159]

Wasn't the creator of Battlestar Galactica a mormon?

[@baneofbanes]

@@fuschiawarrior2159 iirc yes.

[@briannacluck5494]

Came here to say this. The general idea I was taught as a kid was "the kingdom of israel is open to all, and if you're not an israelite already then you will be adopted into one of the tribes at the time of your blessing." Really interesting stuff in the context of the jewish indian theory going around in the early US. I'm not LDS anymore but I find it fascinating how it connects to a ton of religious concepts of the time that I didn't even know existed until adulthood.

[@briannacluck5494]

@@fuschiawarrior2159 Yes, Glen Larsen was mormon.

[@thealexfiles303]

@@briannacluck5494 Many of the beliefs that are thought of as almost exclusively Mormon now were quite common in early and mid 1800s America. Mormonism just made things like Hebraic Indian theory into theology.. Likewise that black people were descendants of Ham and that the United States was destined to stretch from coast to coast (Manifest Destiny as doctrine!). By the mid 20th century, the concept that members of the Church were literal descendants of Israel had really solidified into not necessarily doctrine but materials published by the Church. Mormon scholar (to use the term very loosely) Hugh Nibley posited that the tribe of Ephraim headed north when the tribes escaped. They later were likely the Scythians north of the Black Sea as the Lord guided them to their new home through their prophets, the most important of whom was Odin. Odin was later deified as they fell into disbelief and settled in Scandinavia and Germany. They would then colonize other places like England, spreading the believing blood of Israel throughout the world. This of course was magnified when the English settled the American colonies, preparing the way for the restoration of the Gospel. Pacific Islanders, of course, get Manasseh since they're supposed to be descendants of Hagoth and his people who sailed away from the Americas, so they fit in with the Book of Mormon. The other tribes had to go somewhere, so Eastern Europe and Central Asia have been favorites for getting tribes like Zebulon. Though I reckon the world is a little too well known to count on them showing up as a unique and peculiar people in the last days with their prophets and scriptures to add onto the other modern revelations like Joseph Smith said they would. Now, let all of us Battlestar fans frakking hie to Kobol.

[@pattheplanter]

My favourite crazy Victorian theory is that they moved to Wales.

[@Gentile212]

Here they are 😂😂.. Wales that's funny kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipa8fHmPbshrbbs

[@jakeaurod]

Jonah?

[@chendaforest]

Some Victorians thought the lost ark of the covenant was buried in Ireland at the hill of Tara. As an Irish person I find the very amusing. You can still see the remains of their excavations.

[@BrianStanleyEsq]

Actually they moved to Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch and became "lost" because no one would sit still long enough to hear where they'd moved to.

[@BrianStanleyEsq]

@@chendaforest And some thought the urim and thummim were handed to Joseph Smith.

[@nunyabiznez6381]

I am a genealogist and I have studies Irish genealogy being Irish. There are legends going back to medieval Ireland that many of the oldest families in Ireland can trace their ancestry back to the lost tribes of Israel. There are legendary genealogies that list the lines going all the way back to Adam. Of course they are not really credible. A lot of medieval writers and genealogists liked to graft European royal genealogies onto the family tree of the lost tribes to give those royal houses credibility; not unlike the practice of 19th century American genealogists who were paid to go to Europe and dig up royal or noble dead relatives (metaphorically) and graft their own family onto those noble houses to give wealthy Americans something to brag about other than being wealthy. And if that didn't work those wealthy Americans had their daughters marry financially insolvent peers so their grandchildren could have titles.

[@andrewsuryali8540]

I mean, if you look at your mythology, apparently all Irish gods are descended from people in the Bible.

[@iapetusmccool]

Likewise, the Anglo-Saxon kings produced geneologies that went back to Odin.

[@RealityAudits]

"we was Kangs" lol

[@campbell1446]

It's more than a legend. Can't speak for the individual families, but you can see it in the language. Scottish Gaelic has many similarities with Hebrew. I imagine they were neighboring groups speaking similar languages, then spread out from there. The story of Queen Scota states that she was an Egyptian princess who led a group of people out of Egypt. They sojourned in Spain, then took over Ireland, and later, Scotland. Scotland is named after her. This must have been around 1350 BC or thereabouts.

[@TheYoli182]

@@RealityAudits What does that even mean?