Romans 1-6 Part 2 • Dr. Adam Miller • Aug 7 - Aug 13 • Come Follow Me

[@amyfallon4951]

I needed this so so much! I'll be listening to this one over and over again. Thank you!

[@melindasant9184]

I keep thinking about this episode. I've gone over the notes so many times trying to see thru the telescope the right way. I just love this concept.

[@janh1399]

the reward of service is joy.......the joy and relief of another and the joy we feel to be able to serve

[@janeyockey3660]

I am so going to have to listen to this a gazillion times.

[@carlajoguthrie6498]

Amen!

[@paulaburt1]

💯 agreed!

[@ericnielsen4872]

Amen!

[@ForeverYoung-hc4sv]

Adam, Hank, John.... I cannot express how life-changing Episode 33 has been for me. Beautiful. Adam, I am so excited to begin my new life with the perspective you have given me. It truly is liberating. It's joyous. This paints all of my life with these amazing colors that I never even knew existed. I feel healed. I feel calm. I feel loved. I feel God. Thank you. I have no words. I will spread the good news.🙌😘❤️🥰😍😊

[@joelglassett9651]

Why has it taken me 71 years to learn this principle, that love cannot be earned? Thank you, Bro. Miller. You have provided the key to unlocking years of depression. (Send me a t-shirt.)

[@lindalarsson4948]

This was exactly what I needed and was praying for. I’ve listened 3 times now. Thank you Adam Miller for reaching my understanding and heart with such an unexpected and greatly needed paradigm switch. I definitely had it all backward. I was blind but now I see.

[@starlingwarrior]

You do not understand how critical it was for me to hear this today. Thank you. Thank God.

[@cindyread7470]

This was a life changing episode for me. I am so grateful to live in a time and place such as this. To be able to listen to the three of you share insights and testimony has strengthened mine. I am going to turn the binoculars around and have a much more joyful life. Thank you so very much. ❤❤❤❤

[@tlhirschi]

As others have said, these two episodes will be viewed over and over. The shift in thinking that I always fall short in earning His love, to realizing that His love is already there because He knew I would fall short - Profound! Thank you, Brother Miller. Thank you, Hank and John. What a blessing you all are to so many of us! ❤

[@grantmerrill1151]

This truly did open my eyes and completely switched my view on love. Blew My Mind! I can’t say, Thank you, enough!!!

[@kimevans5742]

The Spirit is just testifying so strongly that what was said is true. Thank you so much. Shouting for joy !!

[@nadinek5638]

I have learned so much about love and the error in my thinking about love. I have new goals that include God now. Thank you Adam I love listening to what you have to say and the clarity about grace in your book. I'll definitely be listening to this many times over.

[@barbarajohnson757]

Oh my goodness!!! I'm going to have to listen to this episode a few more times. I loved the perspective of joining with Heavenly Father and Jesus in the work and commandment to LOVE! Again, thank you for another great session...this one was SUPER-GREAT!

[@katherinefagersten7008]

This understanding was absolutely life changing for me. I feel free to live in love and joy without having to earn God's love by obeying every commandment perfectly. This has been self-imposed fear of not doing things right and not a fun way to live life. It is amazing what happens when you look through the lens of God's love in the proper way, and to join the Savior's law of loving even our enemies. I am so grateful to you and to God.

[@kristinearchibald6264]

I think I need to listen to this every day, it is liberating and I am so pleased that Dr. Miller was so precise and clear in everything he said. So powerful. Thank you❤

[@MamaJLW]

WOW! This one is a keeper and repeater.

[@jaromneumann8827]

Wow, this was so eye opening! I have been seeing things backwards this whole time. If there was one episode that I wish every human could listen to, especially members of the church, it'd be this one. Thank you.

[@marthagutierrez1178]

I’ve listened to this twice now and I’m still in awe and admiration for what was discussed here. Wow! I need to listen to this many more times. Thank you 🙏🙏

[@kathleentice8323]

I AM SO THANKFUL TO HEAR, "LOVE IS A LAW, IT IS NOT A REWARD." I PRAY THIS SAVES MY LIFE.

[@spencermackay]

Spectacular! Such deep and important insights! Certainly one of the best Follow Him episodes.

[@FosterGoodness]

Dr. Miller always delivers!✨thank you!✨

[@idabug3]

I wish I had the words to explain how much this episode has changed my life and my understanding of my Savior and His teachings on love. Now it's all so plain and clear. I had no idea how much I needed to hear this. Thank you so very much. ❤❤❤❤

[@scatherinehester4612]

What a blessing!! I will be listening to this multiple times.

[@angelaaleman7787]

Thank you sooo much for this podcast. I've been stuck so long in a place of thinking I had to earn God's love (which of course I could never do), and I knew my perception was distorted, but I didn't know how to break free from that. I kept falling into the same trap - knowing that Christ was the answer, but always feeling far removed from Him because I felt unworthy of His love; I felt I had disqualified myself from His love. But that's not how it works. Through your words and through the power of the Spirit I have been given eyes to see, and I pray I can hold onto that vision and believe and accept Christ's love, that it's always been there and that I don't have to earn it. Thank you for helping me turn around the telescope 😀

[@tsmithson1]

Holding onto this vision is difficult when our General Authorities teach the backwards version of the Gospel ad nauseum.

[@angelaaleman7787]

@tsmithson1 I appreciate you sharing your perspective, but I don't know that I agree with you on that. Listening to conference talks by certain general authorities has been one of the few things that has given me hope for myself and my relationship with God. Elder Uchtdorf, for example has given many talks where he talks about God's love and focuses on that. And many others express constantly God's love for us. And I don't think any one of them has ever said that we have to earn God's love. They do emphasize keeping the commandments, but out of an understanding of God's love, not out of fear of losing it. Commandments are a way of participating in God's love; as I think they were saying in this podcast. I think, more often than not, there is a mis-interpretation of some things general authorities have said, just as we can mis-interpret the scriptures when we read them. At least that has been my experience.

[@tsmithson1]

Oh yes they have preached the "earning" message. We have different words and expressions to dance around the subject, but President Nelson specifically has, a now, infamous talk on God's love being "Conditional". You don't think our concept of "Worthiness'" and "tithing" are ways that we club people into good behavior. We suggest obedience "qualifies" us for blessings (God's love). This concept itself is promoting that God's willingness to open his blessing's wallet is dependent on my relative good or bad behavior. We restrict the emblems of the Sacrament for those who have broken the more severe commandments. I don't see any evidence that Jesus made himself less available to people based on their relative obedience. I do however, see Jesus, highly critical of those who used the law to shun or refuse service to the said "sinners". I am glad you have not internalized the toxic message, but that does not mean it isn't highly prevalent. @@angelaaleman7787

[@sarahpolhill7750]

I wish every member, especially those who are young adults like me, could hear Adam Miller speak about Christ. Christ has opened my heart and mind through adam’s work time and time again!

[@MariaCandelaful]

How much I appreciate this new redefinition of love as a law, not as a reward “. The whole explanation of it was a life changer. Thank you Adam Miller. Thank You Hank and John !. God bless you all for teaching us how to be more like Jesus. ❤

[@Ahb7010]

Extraordinary!!!!! I think I’m understanding Grace and the Gospel of Jesus Christ and then I listen to you and your guest and I learn something new. Thank you for providing a platform for the Holy Ghost to teach me what I need to understand and do and be!!

[@mariewaite7030]

This episode is amazing- a paradigm shift that feels so liberating. I feel like it is an answer to prayer for me with some recent challenges. I’m almost finished with my second time through… so much to unpack and process. Thank you so much!

[@mariewaite7030]

Also, I’d buy that shirt 😉

[@kenburgess5202]

Romans 1-6 with Dr. Adam Miller was great. Thanks for all you do to help each one of us understand the gospel better.

[@terrycooper8765]

Whoa this is mind blowing to me something I never understood before. I have learned to tolerate others who had hurt me but never love. I’ve realized that joining with God I will learn to truly love as he’s does

[@mackenzieware74]

Loved this so much. “Love is a law, not a reward” will be on my mind for days to come. Unpacking all that means for an imperfect disciple like me.

[@gloriabromley7315]

How beautiful this is episode 33…the years that Christ was on this earth as our example! ❤️

[@davidmccuen7912]

What a phenomenal episode. Thank you Dr. Miller and thank you John and Hank. John, your final comment at the end, recounting that conversation with your evangelical friend, it's the best thing I've ever heard you say. Among a mountain of statements and observations that have made me a better person... That's the best thing I've ever heard. Thank you again.

[@taramansanarez8371]

I loved this episode! I have been spiritually filled. Thank you for sharing what love and obedience and faith and works really are!

[@janeeyre8241]

This was so brilliant. I hope our church leaders and every church member can hear it. Let’s go love our enemies like never before, and every aspect of ourselves, even our broken bits. Thanks Dr Millar. You are amazing.

[@christonks7147]

This may be my favorite episode ever ❤. Thank you for this beautiful discussion!

[@barbaramortensen2534]

I love this more than I can say. Thank you!!!

[@candicepglade3773]

So incredibly profound. I will be thinking about the concepts discussed here forever. i have had such a hard time with Paul in the past and am grateful for the different translations which shed light on confusing passages for me. Please thank Dr. Miller for his deep insights. I will forever remember that "love is a law, not a reward." It will be especially important for me to remember that in my daily life. Thank you so much for this podcast.

[@CissyJordan-n7t]

This is another lesson that I have listened to and will continue to review. It was and is enlightening. I am amazed that I couldn't see it before that I didn't have to "earn" God's love because I already have it. I just need to "join" Him in loving everyone. Thx again.

[@bostonwall328]

All The Way Incredible! Adam Miller is spot on! Loving the journey of life when you wake up to THE Good News. It changes everything! I KNOW GOD LOVES ME.

[@saragroves4103]

Another week of learning and understanding more clearly and correctly these wonderful chapters of Roman's 1-6! Each of you added such meaningful and clarifying insights to my study of Paul! I've listened to this podcast twice and plan to listen at least 2 more times, to get the full enjoyment as I learn more clearly, the words of Paul to the Romans! Thank you, Hank, John, and Adam!

[@figsandchocolate5553]

Adam is one of my favorite educators. His way of viewing the gospel and his ability to convey that view has really inspired me.

[@mariewatson8020]

Thank you. My favorite verse is Moroni 7:48. What I learned today has added so much more to that verse.

[@boltonfam1]

Thank you for explaining how God's love works in my life. I struggle with anxiety, and hearing that God's love is not based on my actions, helps lessen that burden. I think everyone needs to understand that principle.

[@bridgetgratton2895]

Powerful, life-changing podcast!! Thank you for all you do❣️

[@jacqueheaney8439]

I have just been blown away by this episode. Thank you for inviting Dr. Miller on and having the enlightening discussion that you did. I am grateful for smarter people than myself who can open my mind and heart to a new way of thinking. I really enjoy this podcast. I am always learning something new. Thank you for all the time you spend preparing and recording these wonderful insights into the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

[@MrMocheeks]

I’ve read Adam’s books and listening to him explain these ideas and principles of the gospel is invigorating and transformative and feeds my soul. Sooo good!

[@CissyJordan-n7t]

Ditto the reply just below this one!!! It is everything I was thinking of writing. I too have looked at love in the "backward" way. I am 80 yrs old and still learning. Wish I could have known this many years ago. Thanks for this priceless lesson.

[@renatemckendry104]

Grateful for all the work you all do!! ❤🇨🇦

[@emagil1474]

I hope everyone comes to learn and know that the law of love is choosing to judge how to love and never, ever who to love. ❤❤❤

[@eliciaedurham]

This was an amazing Pod Cast! Dr. Miller is amazing and watching you two learn and grow as he speaks is testimony building. We continue to learn and change and be better each day as we fall deeper and deeper "in love" with Loving like Jesus does! I am changed with each new discovery in my learning of the ways of Jesus. Thank you for your hard work to bring all these amazing, scholars and philosophers to our ear buds! I am changed because of it. I came to learn the true meaning of the gospel through my own cancer journey but I could never quite put it in silky elegant T-shirt worthy words like Dr. Miller. I understood this in my heart, that I am to love other people and "work" on deepening my conversion by loving them and what ever else I am inspired to do, listen to pod casts take notes, my own Holy Ghost fire "Check List". A list that helps me learn more about Jesus, so that I can love his people till he gets back, not a list to earn his love. I knew the whole time he loved me and everyone else despite our natural sinning tendencies. I will continue to join him in His love project and become perfect WITH Him! You guys are the BEST, please please have Dr. Miller back!

[@audreyburns6578]

Amazing! Thankyou for opening my eyes to the fact that love is a commandment given to us to learn how to love everyone instead of judge. I have always thought I need to somehow earn the right to be loved just like you said. Jesus is Right & learning to love everyone in the way he taught is the only way but getting there…..this podcast gave me hope it could be possible. Upside down in the gospel, I’m so used too. I feel like I have a weight on the wrong end that keeps throwing me back there. Thank you! For the insite of a better way.

[@kennethmadsen]

Of course we know that we are saved by grace but this peels back the onion so much better; the realization that love is a commandment. There is much more that we need to do to convince ourselves and our evangelical neighbors.

[@susanmiller3990]

Thank you for these profound insights.

[@cindydavis329]

Love Adam Miller ❤️ I have some of his books, and I greatly appreciated his perspective on these tricky principles. Thank you so much for having him as a guest so we could hear his explanations in person.

[@paulinew5089]

What an answer to prayer this session has been!!! Thank you from the depths of my heart for bringing these truths to my understanding! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@jantaylor1776]

This has been one of the most eye opening lessons for me as I really struggle with this. Thank you so much!

[@CindyGilbert-e2v]

This is my favorite episode! Thank you!

[@dennisgailey3016]

I am learning more about the nature of God’s love. I can see myself and everyone else. I see how this will help me to love my wife better!!❤

[@happylatter-daysaint3503]

28:15 - Abuse in relationships! 2:59 - Dr Miller is my favorite! Paul is my favorite! And now you're discussing weeds & comparing them to converts becoming new creatures in Christ. I'm a convert. This is exactly what I teach. I've always considered myself a weed. I love weeds, and there is beauty in them. I wrote a poem about being a weed. The Savior changed me! Yes, I'm a weed, but as Dr. Miller just stated weeds also have flowers. My favorite weed is called the blue corn flower. 💙 They grow along the highways here in Indiana. When I was a tiny girl, my dad explained to me how this little blue flower was actually a weed. I didn't care. For me, it has more beauty than the red rose! 🌿💚🌱

[@SandiGubler]

Oh my goodness, this was so good! I have so many notes! I want all of my family and loved ones to listen to this podcast. I feel like I need to listen to it at least once a week! Thank you so much!

[@kathrynquinn6889]

This has been my year to live John 15. I’m thinking deeply about what I’m learning from Paul to understand it better.

[@sylviajackabbott7067]

God bless everyone involved for bringing us these podcasts each week, but this week has been something special! (I may say this every week). Thank you

[@seekingsofthearts]

Incredible teaching on the interconnectedness of faith, love and works/law!❤❤❤

[@davidlarsen9813]

Wonderful. Thanks for posting. I think we would loose fewer members if ‘true doctrine’ like this were shared and taught more in the church. False, pseudo, or cultural doctrine is fear based, validation (ego) based, disorienting, and makes life exhausting. True doctrine like this message inspires, uplifts, and allows people to take in more realities of life. Rather than focusing on reward-or-punishment hurdles to clear, true doctrine helps us grow in our individual capacity and wisdom. Law of rewards/fear/ego vs law of faith/love/becoming. Great stuff. Thank you. More of this please!

[@1zcott]

Thank you all for the great content here!

[@TruthASAP]

Thank you thank you. I feel good about sharing this gospel now. I knew there were fruits before but now it truly feels like good news I can share and invite others to participate in rather than a brick to drop on someone!

[@steveamybaldwin6753]

Wow I have never thought about love, works and faith this way. “ I do need to do better but why? The answer for me was so God will love me, bless me earn the reward. Such a shift to” join God in the work the work is Love.” The law is love-cannot get love, earn love. Join love and that is the fruit. Wow!!

[@laurielewis3794]

Mind blowing! Thank you

[@GinaMacArt]

I believe faith, love, charity, mercy, etc... are all a state of being, just as Christ demonstrated. Jesus didn't love because it was a law but because He was the embodiment of love, charity, mercy, etc... That to me is what conversion is. To BECOME love, charity, mercy, etc..., without measure. Not having to decide who I will love but to love all people unconditionally and without a second thought, just as Jesus does. Studying and learning about the attributes of God will help us to know what sort of person we must strive to become and never cease trying, no matter how difficult it will become. But, let's not dance around Romans 1:18-32, but call out the sins and LUSTS of the people. They changed God's laws to suit their own abominable, wicked, and homosexual practices. 😢

[@carolynmonahan2488]

Hank's enthusiasm is worth the price of admission!

[@LeahHughes-y5c]

thank you so much. This lesson really opened my mind and heart in understanding the "Law"

[@paulmerrill2400]

Could it be that the law upon which all blessings are predicated (D&C 130:20) is the law of love and that the blessing is the fruit of the spirit which is love, joy & peace (Galatians 5:22)? When we love as God loves, He bestows upon us an even greater capacity to love (Moroni 7:48) and we receive grace for grace until we receive a fullness (D&C 93:20).

[@tsmithson1]

There we go, now we are getting somewhere useful. Good insights and connections. Thanks

[@nanetteiglupas7838]

Thank you Brethren

[@kimhulbert8449]

In trying to makes sense of Brother Miller's thoughts I think I can summarize what Paul is trying to teach. The Law of Moses was a law of works. Israel thought that if they did those works God would love them. But He already did. The law of works dies in our burial at baptism and we rise up out of the water living the Law of Faith, knowing that God already loves us. Well, this makes sense in my head! I think it's all about leaving the old law and coming to the new law.

[@ruthpatten9632]

Amazing

[@AprilSchumann]

Thank u so much. I loved every word.

[@mariacandela7185]

AWESOME!

[@tammyfurness6720]

This is life changing for me. Thank you so very much! ❤

[@paulaburt1]

Outstanding!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow!

[@connieholt6799]

This was indeed life-changing guys. I've taught this stuff for decades, I know this stuff, I've had my own revelation about these concepts, but somehow this hits me so deep and right, and makes me feel as if I never have heard it :) . ...as I concluded my re-read of the transcript, my thoughts went to my beloved prophet Joseph Smith, who said how he very-much identified with Paul, and this leads my thoughts to the relationships with the early church 12-apostles, who had joined the work and then left the work--condemning themselves by removing themselves--but then some returned to the work for the asking, without any friction from Joseph, who, without restraint engendered them his love and welcome again (which hadn't retreated btw, so Godlike)... it's the CHOICE they made to join or remove ... to join and keep the law and join the love, or choice to leave the work, thus condemning themselves. OY! More delicious stuff please!!!! Thanks for all ya'all do to share these things!

[@rachellopez9978]

I want to read Dr. Miller's books now for sure!

[@rudolphmurray4183]

Great study. I am not confused because I know the basics. However, I can see others being confused when in general we give the impression of one going to Heaven (as in the tradition Christian belief) rather than inheriting one of the three kingdoms as we know it. Mind you, other Podcasters do it too.

[@juliethomas3523]

As an herbalist I would add as well that the "weeds that have flowers" also have medicinal value as is stated in Ezekiel

[@nancyhansen7484]

Thinking about weeds in my yard and loving my enemies. Oh dear! I have a lot of growing and stretching my faith.

[@demicorbett]

The t-shirt should say "Love, You can't get it, you can only do it"

[@RobB2]

"Love is a commandment, not a reward" - is this discussed more in any of Dr. Adam Miller's current books or other writings? It should be a book, very thought provoking!

[@rebeccapetersen6237]

Original Grace by Adam Miller

[@rebeccapetersen6237]

Letters to a young Mormon by Adam Miller, essay under "Work"

[@hainetuitavuki9324]

Thank you

[@emagil1474]

♡♡♡

[@kenspencer7920]

Thank you!!

[@beckyjones1584]

Being baptized by water cleanses us to receive the Holy Ghost perhaps like Washings in the Temple prepares us to receive the Holy Annointings

[@kathrynhays7794]

I really like that parallel! Thanks for that insight! Something to think about.

[@krishubbell5380]

Awesome

[@allysonhowell902]

Is there anyway we can get part 1&2 transcribed?? EDITED: just found the transcription in the show notes. Thank you so very very much!!!!!!

[@debrahamilton4186]

This has been a remarkable and singular experience! Thanks to Dr. Miller and Hank and John -- I'm watching this over and over. By the way, I cannot access the Show Notes or even send a message through the Contact option. Is anyone else experiencing this problem?

[@FollowHimPodcast]

Thank you for listening! Show notes are on our website here: followhim.co/new-testament-episodes-31-40/ The direct link to Adam's show notes are: followhim.co/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/NT-33-Dr.-Adam-Miller-Romans-1-6-followHIM-Podcast-SHOW-NOTES.pdf

[@Centered1]

So, what if you say, i need to do better because I now know how i can do better..... because I love my Father and Savior?

[@elainew6441]

How do we learn to love? I have learned by personal revelation that Heavenly Father and Jesus do love me. But my parents really did not show affection to each other or me.

[@carolynnielsen1013]

I think we must, as the scripture says, pray unto the Father with all the energy of heart that ye may be filled with this love.... Moroni 7:48. Despite our circumstances and our past lives, God loves us and will help us love like He does.

[@elainew6441]

@@carolynnielsen1013 thank you. I will work harder and increase my energy of heart as I pray.

[@tinabrowning3951]

This one bothers me in the fact that God does not have enemies! We are His children.

[@tsmithson1]

True, but we humans have enemies, and that is the language Jesus uses in the Sermon on the mount. Not to mention, we have a very famous scripture, Mosiah 3:19, that specifically states that the natural man is an "enemy" to God.

[@alij211]

I wholeheartedly believe in the first four articles of faith that God gave us out of love for all His children. Everything God does is out of love for all of us; Everything. (Even the Mosiac law,). I will stick to the articles of faith. Especially 2 and 3. I never believed in original sin and I don’t know anyone who actually does. The two greatest commandments of all are to love God and love our neighbors as ourselves; thats not new doctrine. Without charity, which is the pure love of Christ, we are nothing; that’s not new doctrine. If ye love me, keep my commandments. I believe in Acts 22:16 and D&C 39:10. What is baptism for the remission of sins if it is not a ‘washing away’? Article of faith 4. I say this with all the love in my heart for all of us. God loves all of us no matter what we do, that is true. And it is true that obedience matters. Look up what the prophet says about ‘Hesed.’ Covenants matter. There is a difference between being a ‘child of God’ and a ‘child of the covenant.’ Grace works in tandem with other principles of the gospel, (articles of faith 2 and 3) and it must, otherwise grace is a Nehor principle: Alma 1:4. It sounds awesome that we’ll all be saved because God loves all of us. I’m sticking with the articles of faith. I don’t know very many people looking through the wrong side of the telescope, and I am certainly not going to say that our church leadership, former or current does. I prefer the suggested readings in Come Follow Me to learn about grace; like Elder Uchtdorf’s talk. God loves all of us no matter what we do. That is true; that I believe wholeheartedly. And, Strait is the gate and narrow is the way. There is only one way. Deep love to all my brothers and sisters in the gospel 💗💗💗

[@lbandmann]

I hear unconditional love mentioned and the February 2003 Ensign article entitled “Divine Love” by Apostle Russell M. Nelson says there’s no such thing, not even in the scriptures.

[@shannonsymondsauthor]

If effort was the measure of success~Satan would be a success. Thankfully love is the measure.