Romans Part 2 Sin and Wrath: Chapter

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[@vallorypoole8117]

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Chris Farrell well as long as people teach that a true saved person that God saved and not man saved, can lose their salvation, you never can say he is because you can never say he didn't lose his salvation. That's sad because God does want those that are saved to know they are saved forever, not think they are saved. How many times can can you really truly get saved for reals, the saved that when you die you made it, like Paul or Peter? Once, right? Paul and Peter were both saved and never lost their salvation. So if that happened, then they never lost their salvation. Once they got saved they were always saved. They never lost Gods salvation. Now if the salvation is mans, and that man loses it, then he lost his salvation not Gods salvation. It's called Gods eternal security not man's eternal security.

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[@katharinedavis4947]

How necessary this message is in today's fallen world ! It's always been fallen but in the past people knew it . Now they don't. It's all health , wealth and prosperity , seemingly as a God given right . At least in America and to some extent in Britain. We need to repent and repentance needs to be preached or else it's cheap grace, and there's no such thing. Praise God He will rescue us if we acknowledge our enormous debt of sin, for ' we have all sinned and fallen short. Kaytey

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No one No one No one NOT ONE IS RIGHTEOUS Only by faith in Christ Jesus 🙏

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Only by faith Oh what a joy whose sins are forgiven whose sins have been cleared from their record Praise God for our Lord Jesus Christ 🙏

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I love listening it's so clear put and straight from Gods Word. Ty

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That is a wish you can make true

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i thank God For Teachers! & it going out in air ways! Truth flows thru the air like water! Moses water barer, law giver; he struck the Rock! Jesus the Word! & water gush out! the Laws of God is our path way to get to him! following Jesus: the Word made flesh in Jesus the Head first, then the body raises up in his stature, image! & meets the head in air: mind! gives the Head a resting place when we stop sinning; transgression of Laws; Gods! bowing to wrong Gods= wrong holidays, Sabbath 7th day!

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Anger of God on our nation is COVID19, that result of our Sin

[@jimmiepatrum]

First time I have really understood the clay and the potter. Thank you for that! I still don't understand your statement that all of us have homosexual tendencies...I don't believe that.

[@Sbock86]

It's very simple. If God removed his hand from your heart and life then you would have that tendency.

[@sweetazz01]

Jimmie Patrum I to didn’t understand David saying that, however I just decided to leave that part with the Lord and in time it will be explained to me if not I’ll ask the lord about it when I see him, however I’m sure by then I would have forgotten 🙂

[@johnbarry8553]

A Pharisee stood on the corner and as he prayed he said I thank God I'm not like that man. This is what mans judgement is all about What is meant is that we are all sinners capable of every type of sin if God does not keep his hand upon us.🙂 Jesus is Lord

[@matthewaislabie7354]

He is very subtle. He is saying "born homosexual" is a lie.

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Amen

[@BCF75SMCP]

Again you are confusing me ! In this msg at 2:52-3:18 minutes on the message.....you teaching we are not saved yet. I know I am saved now it's scary what you are teaching as if we get saved by works ... I know we are sanctified in progress but being saved is fine once for all unless we " fall away" I like most of your teaching but sometimes it scares me .Beheng you quote bible reference , and tell us your point ,bto mebibxan jot find it in the chapter you say for example Romans Ch 13 that we are not saved yet. It's disturbing to me. Wish I can talk to you to explain further.

[@DavidPawsonMinistry]

HI feel free to email via [e-mail] and we will try to answer your questions Please dont be afraid or disturbed - let me quote just three verses John 3:16 - whoever believes in him shall receive eternal life (or more correctly whoever carrys on believing) … Philippians 3:9 For Gods way of making us right with him depends on faith (or more correctly faithfulness) … Greek action words have an expected 'continuation' which is lost in translation believe.....carry on believing faith - carrying on in the faith - faithfulness ask....carry on asking etc David does not teach we are saved by works - but he does teach we are saved FOR works and to quote Jesus own words in Matthew 10:22 "You will be hated by everyone because of me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved" …..salvation is future - for those who “stand firm to the end “……ie remaining in faith ...“will be saved” This is not something to be disturbed about - it is the hope and assurance ....... it does not say "may be" .....it said "WILL BE " but...... it is conditional upon remaining faithful...

[@Jehaan2022]

I love his teachings, but he drops the ball when it comes to salvation. We are saved from the punishment of sin the moment we accept Christ. That's the foundation.

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[@nashvillain171]

Oops! Is this a mistake: 1:25:27 Dr. Pawson says the law was abolished in Christ. Matthew 5:17 says, "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."

[@christianaugustus8610]

David pawson have a teaching on the ten commandments look it up, it will bring clearity on what he said

[@nashvillain171]

@@christianaugustus8610 I don't need to look it up. I'm saying the Christ himself said that he did not come to abolish the law, but to fulfil it. Dr. Pawson said the law was abolished in Christ. I'm not having difficulty understanding. I'm pointing out a contradiction.

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@@nashvillain171 ok stay ignorant

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@@christianaugustus8610 I have a better idea: explain the discrepancy that I observed. I'll wait.

[@scwienert]

@@nashvillain171 since he is teaching in Romans and said he would cover it later in Romans, he is probably referring to this: Romans 10:4 NKJV [4] For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

[@BCF75SMCP]

Pastor I am looking for your ref in 2 cor Ch 4 . About we are justified by faith but judged according to our work ....but read all Ch 3 can not find it. Wish you say the verse as well.

[@DavidPawsonMinistry]

Hi if you let me know the timing in this video where David makes that reference I will try to comment further but let me say David does not teach you are saved BY works but more you are saved FOR works some bible references you may wish to consider “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God, not by works, so that no one can boast” (Ephesians 2:8-9) James 2:24-26 You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone. In the same way was not Rahab the prostitute considered righteous for what she did when she gave lodgings to the spies and sent them off in a different direction. As the body without spirit is dead so faith without works is dead and back to Ephesians 2:10 - for we are Gods handiwork - created in Jesus Christ to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do We are not saved BY works, we are saved by Gods Grace alone - but we are saved FOR works - to do good works which God prepared in advance for us to do ......but it requires faith or more accurately translated "faithfulness"

[@jimmyed1556]

I can't find the place where Jeremiah said to the Lord, the clay. Is he referring to a different chapter,,43:30

[@nancybaumgartner6774]

I do not believe that we can lose our salvation , but why split hairs? This is great teaching just the same.

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It is coming

[@someguy9519]

Regarding children and sweets..you get one child to cut the chocolate and the other to have first pick. It will be exact.

[@sheryltorino5318]

he said abolish the law. but Jesus said He did not come to abolish but to fulfill it?

[@katharinedavis4947]

I don't think it was a phobia, I've seen that in parents.( A friend wouldn't let her son swim , because she was afraid of water and drowning. Nowadays children are well supervised learning to swim at school ) I think yours was a healthy , fear children need a healthy fear of traffic , it is very dangerous. Kaytey

[@James-ms2mx]

He says a lot of good things but one thing confused me. He says those who never heard of Jesus will be judged by their understanding of right and wrong. And then based on second Corinthians chapter 5 he said that believers will be judged based on a work system the good we did versus the bad we did. So with these two views why exactly did Jesus die? If I'm going to be judged by how well I did anyway and why did Jesus have to die?

[@DavidPawsonMinistry]

Hi James You raise an important point - can you please refer me to the timing in this video where you believe David says this ? It is not consistent with what David teaches but I would like to understand what exactly he says in this video Thank you 🙏

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@@DavidPawsonMinistry 50:00 - 54:00

[@DavidPawsonMinistry]

@@James-ms2mx Let me offer some explanation here Ephesians 2 8-9 - We are saved by Grace through faith - not by works so that no one can boast ...........- Jesus paid the price for our sins once and for all, as nothing we can do would be good enough Romans 3:23 For all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God However Ephesians 2 10 continues - We are Gods handy work created in Jesus Christ to do good works, which God prepared advance for us to do .........- we are expected to do good works James 2:20 faith without deeds is useless ......and .....26 .........Faith without works is dead So we are saved by Gods Grace - but Jesus said in John 14 - If you love me obey my commandments Jesus paid the price - that we may be saved ....... there is nothing we can do to earn salvation however we have a part to play ........ we are expected be the light of this world and to obey His commandments Hebrews10:26 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the Truth no sacrifice for sin is left no-one will be spared Gods Judgement - and we as believers will be judged by what we do and if we carry on deliberately sinning .........not even Gods Grace can save us Please read Romans 1 - 18 onwards .... - Although they know Gods righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death , they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them Rom 2:7 To those who by persistence in doing good, seek honour and immortality he will give eternal life but for those who are self seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil,,,,,,,,,,,

[@James-ms2mx]

@@DavidPawsonMinistry Thank you for your time and explanation. I believe what you say here. Sometimes the idea of deliberate sin is intimidating because I think all of my sins are deliberate. I am starting to settle on the view that succumbing to impulses is one thing but being perfectly content in your sin is quite another thing. I appreciate your insights here. If you get the time, could you comment on David's view of those who have never heard of the Gospel being judged by the light available to them? Is David saying that they will be saved or lost based on how they lived according to their conscience or that they are all lost without Christ and the judgement against them will be either severe or light depending on their lives lived?

[@DavidPawsonMinistry]

@@James-ms2mx hi feel free to contact us directly [e-mail] Romans is a good Book of the Bible which addresses your question. We are all answerable for our own salvation we are not responsible for how GOD deals with others - we are responsible to share the good news that Jesus came that we may be saved The Gospels is clear - God so loved the World that he Gave his Only Son that those who believe …. the correct translation is continuous tense - those who carry on believing ….. Those who have not heard the Gospel includes everyone in the Old Testament Those who lived in Old Testament lived under the Law which are Gods Commandments - they have no excuses and it was clear what was right and what was wrong, for Jews there were sacrifices and days of atonement We have all committed sin - and there is no excuse and “ no hiding “ from God - he sees everything - the Bible is clear regarding deliberate sin - there is no sacrifice left But God is just - he will one day punish all sin, God is merciful - meaning he will show mercy on those ( including me) who do not deserve mercy God is righteous- he will do what is right - but his Word is clear - repent , turn away from sinful ways, obey his commandments and the sacrifice of Jesus will cover your sins You have received the knowledge of the truth of Jesus That is why it’s is important we share the God news about Jesus to everyone so they also can have an assurance of salvation. For those who genuinely have never heard about Jesus and that includes babies - we trust in God who is Righteous - but with a warning he is also just - he will not tolerate deliberate sin I personally leave the question of “what about those who have not heard about Jesus” to God I focus on my own actions and situation and telling as many as I can about Jesus as an when the opportunity arises

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Why have they spelt change wrong on the front of the lectern?

[@violetblye3006]

I noticed that in the opening credits. I think it's linked to the URL.

[@kymdickman8910]

Changi is the name of a locality in Singapore.

[@kymdickman8910]

Michael Harris, this was recorded in Singapore, where a place called Changi exists.

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Michael Harris The airport is in Changi.

[@justinchamberlain3443]

28:01 “Most of us in this room, if not all of us, have homosexuality in our bodies”; I think I very very respectfully disagree. 46:35 “Praise the Lord for His kindness, but if I take advantage of that I am ‘storing up wrath for the day of wrath’”

[@DavidPawsonMinistry]

Justin - David is not saying ''most if not all have homosexual tendencies'' - what he is saying is ''we all have the ability to sin' I personally have never had any homosexual desires, neither have I ever had the desire to take drugs or get drunk .....but my body has the ability to try Your second reference ''Praise the Lord for his kindness and patience.'' The Lord is very patient with is ...why does HE not wipe out all the bad people in this world now, why wait ?.. because that may just include you and I, as all of us have sinned and fallen short of the kingdom of God. If we take Gods kindness and patience for granted ...... we are storing up HIS wrath as one day, his patience will run out

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@@DavidPawsonMinistry Sir, you didn’t reply my email 😢

[@ashadowawhisper]

1:25:17 Matthew 5:17-20… it was not abolished. Matthew 5:17-20 (CJB): Don’t think that I have come to abolish the Torah or the Prophets. I have come not to abolish but to complete. 18 Yes indeed! I tell you that until heaven and earth pass away, not so much as a yud or a stroke will pass from the Torah-not until everything that must happen has happened. 19 So whoever disobeys the least of these mitzvot and teaches others to do so will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But whoever obeys them and so teaches will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness is far greater than that of the Torah-teachers and P’rushim, you will certainly not enter the Kingdom of Heaven!

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August 2024

[@FredCompusmurf]

Dear Mr Pawson, The poem of the Jew is not quite true. For Yahweh was the El of all the tribes of Israel. Shalom

[@henryv4222]

I love David however I feel like his comments about gay marriage sweeping the globe are unfounded. Singapore is a clever nation, and Australia is taking a stand in the West. we won't go gently into That goodnight - no matter how disappointed you are in the UK we have Democratic countries which will not kowtow to a minority. it is easy to begin to assume that the end of days is here and that everything is getting worse however the Holy Spirit is a real person and He listens when we cry out to Him in repentance and our Future and a Hope is not only the end of the race. do not give up, stand with other believers and against the powers and principalities!

[@fromdeathtolife2076]

Henry V do you still think that now?

[@Mukurafamily]

Henry V when you say that It is as though you don't want the rapture to happen and in order for the rapture to take place the world will be immersed in sin and people will no longer want to listen to the gospel, but rather want to live in bondage to their immorality.

[@flop6228]

Mr Henry V, you're in denial.

[@debbycrowell303]

idol word is more about spiritually your holiday! instead of Gods & keeping another idols day, & not waiting till 7th day! Christs'

[@kimberlyjean3374]

"Idle" words are empty or careless words....blessings.

[@flamingooneleg77]

Are you serious? Every person is born with homosexuality inside them?

[@flamingooneleg77]

I thought I heard that too

[@DavidPawsonaufDeutschOffiziell]

Please listen to what David says ....everyone is born with the ability to sin ... is different to everyone is born homosexual

[@tamitha20]

All professional sports are rigged

[@matthewaislabie7354]

Good stuff, but a bit of ashame that he never grasped Rev 2.9 and Rev 3.9 applies today. And applies to 99.9999% of them.

[@vanessaboman8143]

I was happy to watch this until he implied Jesus was righteous, good and God... Even in the flesh Jesus was totally God totally man, fully righteous, and good. Jesus was looking at the man asking why do you call Me good, to see if he accepted Jesus as Messiah,God in the flesh. The man didn't.

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[@kennethfoo43]

2024

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[@vallorypoole8117]

DAVID YOU MAY HAVE HAD DESIRES FOR SAME SEX BUT SPEAK 4 YOURSELF IM NEVER HAD A DESIRE LIKE THAT IN MY LIFE....

[@DavidPawsonMinistry]

I can assure you David never did have any desires for the same sex so please quote exactly what David says and not add your own interpretation David believes we all have the potential within us, I do not know whether he is right or wrong but I respect his views Something that may not be popular with everyone who listens to this teaching but sexual orientation and preference has been proven is not genetic - there are male genes and there are female genes - and then there are the desires of the heart.

[@danayager]

I don’t have a smidgen of attraction to the same sex. Not at all. I love David but don’t agree with homosexuality being in everyone

[@Woman_in_the_Wilderness]

Lets be thankful if we don't have such tendencies. I sure am thankful - it sounds very difficult to deal with... BUT GOD.

[@karolinae499]

Because it is just as brother David day: “only by God’s Grace we are not given to these temptations”. If we get courage to ask God to show as how sinful truly are we would quickly discover that this is true. Bless you Sister Dana. 🌿

[@delicheres]

What ? « We’re all capable of homosexuality » ???? Are you feeling fine pastor ? 😳 no way it’s just unthinkable for me , what did you say , really 😢 so wrong!

[@katharinedavis4947]

It would seem that President Trump is not addicted to business , since he is now devoting himself to America without being paid for it. He has enough money, so that he can leave off searching for money. He's trusting his business to others and concentrating on God's work. Rescuing America from ruin and it's people in a Godly way is just as much a Godly work as being a pastor or a missionary. I'm not saying he's perfect , but who among us is ? Kaytey

[@dunamis67]

Katharine Davis -So, Donald Trump is "rescuing america from ruin" and that "in a godly way"? Since when? Based on what? And HOW?

[@gnostie]

This is why I can't be a Christian: I believe that people are fundamentally good, and you can't be a Christian if you believe that. It's unlikely that someone like Pawson would say something he didn't check and double-check.

[@flop6228]

gnostie, People r not good. Our hearts are wicked. Sure we may do good deeds, be kind, help others, but given the right circumstance wickedness creeps in...whether by selfishness, greed, jealousy, , boastfulness, hatred, adultery, and then the evil thoughts that we wouldn't dare tell another soul, etc etc

[@ernestquansah5589]

gnostie , God bless you for listening through this teaching. And you do well in believing that people are fundamentally good, but wait till you meet the Master Jesus, only then will you know how a good person really is. Jesus Said “make a tree good and its fruits will be good, or make a tree bad and its fruits will be bad” (Matthew 12:33). We are all like a bad tree, have fallen and has a bad nature, our fruits(good deeds/character) only seems good in the human perspective but to God our goodness/righteousness it’s like a filthy rag says the prophet Isaiah. (Isaiah 64:6). It takes a truly good person to know what really bad is as well as good. Men looks on the outside but God sees on the inside. Only God knows the heart of man, and that is where all the evil and deception springs from. Doubting God’s Word is calling God a liar, it is written if we say we have not sinned we make God to be a liar and His Word is not in us(1 John 1:8). Be humble, Repent and come to the Cross even with a childlike faith Without any justification and you will receive forgiveness of your sins and welcomed into Gods Kingdom. Shalom.

[@matthewaislabie7354]

Know thyself.

[@raykidder906]

I think David Pawson's commentary on this passage of Romans would have been greatly improved if he considered the possibility that the righteous gentiles mentioned in Romans 2 were Christians. Otherwise, people can be righteous doers of the law who are justified without the gospel. Having believed the gospel does not equate to having received the law as the law is not made for the righteous man. Having a circumcised heart comes through the faith of the gospel and not by the hearing and study of laws. St. Paul tried to obey the commandment against covetousness, but this resulted in covetous thoughts.