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Romantic Mathematical Shape: möbius-loop hearts

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Stand-up Maths

Stand-up Maths

Күн бұрын

Cutting a möbius loop in half is fun. Sticking two möbius loops together and cutting them both in half is romantic.
Much more on möbius loops and topology in my book Things to Make and Do in the Fourth Dimension:
mathsgear.co.uk...
Also on Maths Gear is the Cos I Love You card:
mathsgear.co.uk...
Think Maths parametric heart coordinates resources:
think-maths.co....
And here is my Royal Institution lecture:
• Four Dimensional Maths...
MATT PARKER: Stand-up Mathematician
Website: standupmaths.com/
Music by Howard Carter
Design by Simon Wright

Пікірлер: 416
@RobertRussellComposer
@RobertRussellComposer 8 жыл бұрын
I see a pair of handcuffs at 2:55. It could be argued that these are equally (if not even more) romantic than interlinking hearts!
@aithne99
@aithne99 8 жыл бұрын
+Robert Russell Composer naughty
@theophrastushohenheim3251
@theophrastushohenheim3251 8 жыл бұрын
+Nóra B n*****y
@JacobFelten
@JacobFelten 8 жыл бұрын
+Theophrastus Hohenheim Hello Internet reference?
@Ruminations09
@Ruminations09 8 жыл бұрын
+Nóra B Watch your fucking language! Don't you know there are children here?
@arqpal
@arqpal 7 жыл бұрын
PokemonTom09 lol you asked him to watch his lenguage and you said "fucking"
@kennethsizer6217
@kennethsizer6217 3 жыл бұрын
"This is a boring cylinder! We can do *SO* much better!" Math with enthusiasm is one of the most sublime things in this or any universe.
@STE6677
@STE6677 8 жыл бұрын
If some told me you could make a square with two loops stuck together, I would have thought they where crazy until now.
@standupmaths
@standupmaths 8 жыл бұрын
I still find it crazy.
@STE6677
@STE6677 8 жыл бұрын
+standupmaths I just love amazing maths things that I can try myself
@durand95330
@durand95330 8 жыл бұрын
+STE6677 I guess you can make two loops stuck together with a square ?
@eagle3676
@eagle3676 6 жыл бұрын
pierre durand just go in reverse
@beaclaster
@beaclaster 2 жыл бұрын
@@durand95330 with a full square that would be a torus (my guess)
@guestuser2373
@guestuser2373 8 жыл бұрын
Remarkable! You've finally squared the circle.
@myknowledgemedia1080
@myknowledgemedia1080 6 жыл бұрын
Guest User Quite the Parker Square.
@kennethsizer6217
@kennethsizer6217 3 жыл бұрын
I *LOVE* this comment!
@einsteingonzalez4336
@einsteingonzalez4336 3 жыл бұрын
No, it's not.
@kimballchoo
@kimballchoo 3 жыл бұрын
And I thought it’s impossible
@rachelsimons2040
@rachelsimons2040 8 жыл бұрын
Matt also gave that lecture at my sixth form one evening. He threw his hat at me, and let me keep both the square and interlocked hearts that he demonstrated. It was a truly fantastic moment.
@standupmaths
@standupmaths 8 жыл бұрын
I hope you cherished them for weeks, minimum.
@rachelsimons2040
@rachelsimons2040 8 жыл бұрын
+standupmaths I think I still have them, stashed away safely. At home. Somewhere...
@mata5724
@mata5724 8 жыл бұрын
The nerdiest way to say your relationship is one-sided.
@the-keymaker
@the-keymaker 7 жыл бұрын
4ever al1
@happypiano4810
@happypiano4810 4 жыл бұрын
But two möbius loops make a Klein bottle when put together, so in reality, they are saying that their love is never ending.
@morris1818
@morris1818 8 жыл бұрын
That's some heart-core math you got there.
@standupmaths
@standupmaths 8 жыл бұрын
I'm heart-core to the math.
@NoriMori1992
@NoriMori1992 8 жыл бұрын
"And he was so proud of this shape, that he named himself after it."
@aaron9828
@aaron9828 7 жыл бұрын
He obviously planned to say this, it wasn't a mistake.
@sebastianespejoloyaga7603
@sebastianespejoloyaga7603 7 жыл бұрын
Parker Square ir Morbius loop?
@CemCakrlar
@CemCakrlar 8 жыл бұрын
Did this right now for my wife. It is really über-romantic for an engineer couple. The story I told was made us have tears in eyes. Thanks for the idea Parker.
@RickyCruzMedia
@RickyCruzMedia 8 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for that triangle.
@kattparis6955
@kattparis6955 5 жыл бұрын
Can’t believe how impressed I was with the square....... blown away by my reaction to the hearts. I love math!
@paxpacis2
@paxpacis2 8 жыл бұрын
Footguy from Numberphile already showed us this
@standupmaths
@standupmaths 8 жыл бұрын
Whoops, I missed that Numberphile video. Thankfully I've been doing this paper demo for years. Not least of all for the Ri last February: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6ikknyVa8dsgKcm44s
@dan339dan
@dan339dan 8 жыл бұрын
+paxpacis2 Foot guy was "Tadashi Tokeida"
@paxpacis2
@paxpacis2 8 жыл бұрын
+standupmaths No problem, was just surprised to see the möbius hearts again
@Skadihehe
@Skadihehe 8 жыл бұрын
+standupmaths I just watched that video yesterday. How very strange.
@jjjjh4289
@jjjjh4289 8 жыл бұрын
+standupmaths No you didn't.
@singingblueberry
@singingblueberry 8 жыл бұрын
Okay okay, that's even more romantic than x^2+(y-cube root of x^2)^2=1 (Enter this in Wolfram alpha if you want to understand.)
@standupmaths
@standupmaths 8 жыл бұрын
Ok, that is pretty romantic.
@LazyMasterGamer
@LazyMasterGamer 8 жыл бұрын
+standupmaths how about this one: (x^2+y^2-1)^3-x^2y^3=0
@theflaggeddragon9472
@theflaggeddragon9472 8 жыл бұрын
+singingblueberry I really like this composition of 4 equations. y1=sqrt(2x-x^2) y2=sqrt(-2x-x^2) y3=arcsine(x-1)-pi/2 y4=-arcsine(1+x)-pi/2
@AreyouReggae
@AreyouReggae 8 жыл бұрын
:D sneaky
@NotJames1
@NotJames1 8 жыл бұрын
+The Flagged Dragon That doesn't produce a graph in Wolfram for me :( what is it supposed to be?
@spiffo5349
@spiffo5349 8 жыл бұрын
2 möbius loops of the same type gives me a boat?! **runs off to find a pair of scissors*
@DariusMo
@DariusMo 8 жыл бұрын
Well I already know that one from your lecture in the Royal Institution. Was a great lecture!
@DariusMo
@DariusMo 8 жыл бұрын
+bl00dwork btw, what actually happens if you e.g. stick 3 loops or möbius loops together?
@slendy9600
@slendy9600 8 жыл бұрын
+bl00dwork try it. im interested in seeing what happens too
@DariusMo
@DariusMo 8 жыл бұрын
slendy9600 I will try :D
@fluffyllama1505
@fluffyllama1505 8 жыл бұрын
Any results yet? :P
@DariusMo
@DariusMo 8 жыл бұрын
Fluffy Llama nope didn't have the time :C
@proyc95
@proyc95 8 жыл бұрын
Seen this demonstration on Royal Institution on KZbin, I think the title was "Things to See and Hear in the Fourth Dimension" :) Really enjoyed that video and I made some of them myself after the video as well - twas pretty cool. Your enthusiasm and curiosity are quite contagious Matt! Always enjoy the content on your videos and your sense of humor.
@thatskap
@thatskap 8 жыл бұрын
Never going to forget the wonders of the Mobius Loop. Loving the videos Matt! :)
@crazydrummer4827
@crazydrummer4827 8 жыл бұрын
Why didnt you show boat & thing?
@NatsumiHinata
@NatsumiHinata 8 жыл бұрын
+Crazy drummer It's on Numberphile video!
@crazydrummer4827
@crazydrummer4827 8 жыл бұрын
***** Thanks!
@svge96
@svge96 8 жыл бұрын
+Crazy drummer they are easily imaginable after you saw the hearts.
@NoriMori1992
@NoriMori1992 8 жыл бұрын
+Егор Свежинцев Maybe easily imaginable for you; not for everybody.
@JackMaddock1
@JackMaddock1 6 жыл бұрын
A metaphor for my life: I attempt three times to make the hearts and instead got the weird boat thing, before giving up, watching the end of the video, and realising that I had ignored something essential.
@carolinevenus7901
@carolinevenus7901 8 жыл бұрын
I saw this already from Numberphile a while ago, but the way you presented this made it far more entertaining. Thank you!
@standupmaths
@standupmaths 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
@IllidanS4
@IllidanS4 8 жыл бұрын
You have cool music in your videos. Not that I watch them because of it, but it makes the maths even more cool.
@standupmaths
@standupmaths 8 жыл бұрын
Everything gets better with cool music. Even maths.
@stephaniecarroll1542
@stephaniecarroll1542 8 жыл бұрын
+standupmaths And there was I thinking maths couldn't possibly get any better than it already was. Tut tut tut, so oblivious.
@TheMrvidfreak
@TheMrvidfreak 8 жыл бұрын
"A boat...and a thing" I'm in tears
@quendordoom
@quendordoom 8 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. I could be having a terrible day but your playful and curious approach to life always puts a smile on my face. Thanks!
@standupmaths
@standupmaths 8 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help! I hope you have better days.
@Rtcmanga_YouTube_Channel
@Rtcmanga_YouTube_Channel 8 жыл бұрын
Wow, I would have never expected something like that coming out from pure math! :) Really cool!!
@PC_Simo
@PC_Simo Жыл бұрын
Gotta love, how the video is 7:22 long. 7:22 ≈ 1:π. 😅
@bibekgautam512
@bibekgautam512 8 жыл бұрын
I knew this one from the a numberphile video with Tadashi Tokeida. Thanks for the remainder, matt.
@physicsgoesbrrr1181
@physicsgoesbrrr1181 6 жыл бұрын
The best plot twist at 1:13 (giving new meanings to plot and twist)
@AndrewPitmanator
@AndrewPitmanator 8 жыл бұрын
"... Not even linked together. It is a world of disappointment." 😂
@simoncunningham9231
@simoncunningham9231 8 жыл бұрын
You, Sir, are a delight.
@Garbaz
@Garbaz 8 жыл бұрын
Why is everybody commenting that "Numberphile already did this" or even "omg you copied numberphile, how lame"? 2) People made videos about this way before Numberphile or Matt Parker 3) Matt performed this "trick" on stage / in front of a camera before Numberphile did a video about it 5) Even if Matt would've watched the video on the topic by Numberphile and then decided to make his own about it, he has all rights to do so as long as he doesn't actually copy anything
@connorcrowley3264
@connorcrowley3264 8 жыл бұрын
You forgot one and four.
@Garbaz
@Garbaz 8 жыл бұрын
Connor Crowley It's supposed to be a joke: p_1, p_2, p_3
@connorcrowley3264
@connorcrowley3264 8 жыл бұрын
+Garbaz I know.
@johnydl
@johnydl 8 жыл бұрын
+Garbaz 8) your sequence has confirmation bias, doesn't need to be prime to continue in a mathematical way ;)
@celtgunn9775
@celtgunn9775 7 жыл бұрын
Garbaz you do know that Matt Parker IS from Numberphile right?
@queenvictoria1802
@queenvictoria1802 8 жыл бұрын
Briiliant entertaining explainer - you could probably explain the maths of the Einstein Field Equations and make it seem like great fun. Thank you
@seancrane278
@seancrane278 8 жыл бұрын
I Literally geeked out over this idea yesterday when I watched your thing at the RI! It was wonderful and now it has it's own video!
@standupmaths
@standupmaths 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, I thought it was a shame to leave it buried in the middle of a lecture. So I re-filmed this bit to give it its own video.
@seancrane278
@seancrane278 8 жыл бұрын
And I am very happy you did so. I'm more amused at the timing.
@martinowong
@martinowong 6 жыл бұрын
That was some Parker Square!
@all_time_Jelly_Fish
@all_time_Jelly_Fish 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt, I'll do this with my Wife on Valentine's day too! I imagine she will tell me something like, " I love you, nerd" when we're done.
@3ckitani
@3ckitani 7 жыл бұрын
3:10 A SQUARE! A PARKER SQUARE!!
@jashrox1998
@jashrox1998 8 жыл бұрын
Matt PLEASE upload the theme song to Soundcloud. I LOVE it!
@standupmaths
@standupmaths 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, once Howard and I get organised we'll put it out somewhere.
@solarmaster3405
@solarmaster3405 5 жыл бұрын
So what your saying is 2 Parker Circles divided by 2 = a Parker Square? That makes total sense!
@sagiksp4979
@sagiksp4979 8 жыл бұрын
I saw this on your lecture at the Royal Institution already
@seanpuchaty1901
@seanpuchaty1901 8 жыл бұрын
This was just beautiful!
@jetstreamjackie3437
@jetstreamjackie3437 8 жыл бұрын
Consistent video corruption at 2:18
@AltarenGalil
@AltarenGalil 8 жыл бұрын
haha that blew me away, you cant cut it in half!
@AltarenGalil
@AltarenGalil 8 жыл бұрын
+Jan Šinkovec a square?? this is just a rollercoaster of a video
@emmey8865
@emmey8865 8 жыл бұрын
Finally this trick gets its own video.
@nerdbot4446
@nerdbot4446 8 жыл бұрын
What's that chiptune music in the outro of your videos? The description says "Music by Howard Carter", but it's impossible to search for this artist. I really like the 8bit music style and this track is amazing
@MrHSX
@MrHSX 8 жыл бұрын
+Patrick Star Apparently they haven't released the music yet. :( There is a comment from Matt on this video saying that...It's like the 15th comment
@johnvictor9071
@johnvictor9071 5 жыл бұрын
My wife and I did this during our wedding ceremony.
@WarpedWartWars
@WarpedWartWars 2 жыл бұрын
(really late here, but...) I was waiting for you to drop the Möbius Hearts at the end!
@clumsycuber3254
@clumsycuber3254 5 жыл бұрын
THIS MAN IS A WIZARD!!!!
@half_pixel
@half_pixel 8 жыл бұрын
Not sure why everyone's complaining that Numberphile has a video on this already. Two different channels are allowed to cover the same bit of mathematics...
@DowzerWTP72
@DowzerWTP72 7 жыл бұрын
You know what... I will subscribe! This video genuinely made me smile about a subject I've always found pretty confusing!!
@eulerpie
@eulerpie 8 жыл бұрын
what a twist!
@alexshmalex455
@alexshmalex455 6 жыл бұрын
I did cut the moebius strip the second time and it blew my mind. The result is three independent 8's bond together...
@ecstasyofgold888
@ecstasyofgold888 8 жыл бұрын
I tried this when I read your book. I must not have done it right. I remember I got the "thing" result.
@unknow210
@unknow210 8 жыл бұрын
awesome!! nice mobius loop!!
@maddoxMw3
@maddoxMw3 8 жыл бұрын
best math teacher
@james0xaf
@james0xaf 8 жыл бұрын
What I want to know is why you end up with a boat and a thing, instead of two boats or two things? What determines which piece is the boat and which is the thing? Hearts are great for showing off, but the "disappointing" result is the one that keeps me awake at night.
@JosephParker_Nottheboxer
@JosephParker_Nottheboxer 7 жыл бұрын
I did this for a girl and she was amazed... sadly I didn't do my research and had nothing to follow it up with. I got a smile and a giggle but when I tried to explain the math she really didn't care. :(
@TallMoose
@TallMoose 8 жыл бұрын
I'm currently reading your book, and im right past the part where you urge the reader to cut the stuck together cylinders in half. Really glad i dont actually have to now.
@JackDrewitt
@JackDrewitt 8 жыл бұрын
our 6th maths teacher abused us as a labour-force, and made us do a tonne of weird star things out of paper for xmas, i broke the mold however and did a couple of mobius-hearts. id learnt it from ur ri video way back when
@standupmaths
@standupmaths 8 жыл бұрын
That's the spirit!
@JanickGers0
@JanickGers0 8 жыл бұрын
Holy shit I did not expect that to happen. Best pick up line EVER.
@lin4cba
@lin4cba 8 жыл бұрын
I is not as romantic unless you use your foot to help with cutting. :\
@slendy9600
@slendy9600 8 жыл бұрын
XD
@emilysofiadelatorremartin524
@emilysofiadelatorremartin524 8 жыл бұрын
oh god! XD
@danlurny4129
@danlurny4129 8 жыл бұрын
+lin4cba u've watched that vid
@animeshsarkar3437
@animeshsarkar3437 5 жыл бұрын
He named himself after this! 😂
@lawrencecalablaster568
@lawrencecalablaster568 8 жыл бұрын
I love this! :) Same wonderful Möbius stuff as your talk Things to See & Hear in the Fourth Dimension.
@fortheloveofit5317
@fortheloveofit5317 Жыл бұрын
Dude! In your book you talk about the tesseract, and its appearance in marvel movies. Well, the mobius loop appears in Avengers Endgame! It's the shape of the band Iron Man uses for time travel! Check out the movie if you haven't noticed.
@inkpanther
@inkpanther 8 жыл бұрын
Next video should show "a boat... and a thing". ;) I've already seen Numberphile video but I did enjoy yours as well!
@fx4d
@fx4d 8 жыл бұрын
Wait for the twist!
@Zalaniar
@Zalaniar 8 жыл бұрын
I actually just watched your video from the RI channel of you doing this exact same thing. Let's just say I got deja vu while watching this one :P Neat trick anyway :)
@itaialter
@itaialter 8 жыл бұрын
I don't see anyone saying "August Ferdinand already did that"... People just like to make it well known that they watch additional math channels...
@standupmaths
@standupmaths 8 жыл бұрын
I fully support that watching of many math channels! And it was a Martin Gardner book where I first saw a möbius loop cut in half. These things go way back!
@itaialter
@itaialter 8 жыл бұрын
standupmaths Hehe, I fully support that too, of course. I was just a bit annoyed with all the "they already did it" comments just to promote that fact about themselves. Keep doing what you're doing!
@humpingdumplings
@humpingdumplings 8 жыл бұрын
Matt, I absolutely LOVE your content. Such a great idea in time for Valentine's. But I feel some of your standupmaths sessions are a bit too slow-paced and scripted compared to your numberphile sessions, which have your natural flow of quick wit. Anyways, it may be just me.. it could be something for you to think about. Having said that, I'm enjoying seeing your channel grow! Best of luck :)
@avaaaaavva
@avaaaaavva 3 жыл бұрын
'This blew my mind'
@DanDart
@DanDart 8 жыл бұрын
seen it already in your 4d lecture and from someone else on numberphile!
@JupitersDancer
@JupitersDancer 8 жыл бұрын
I saw just hours before you uploaded this video, your talk at the Royal Institute where you do this trick :P
@traktortarik8224
@traktortarik8224 6 жыл бұрын
1:10 that gets me every. Damn. Time.
@adnamamedia
@adnamamedia 7 жыл бұрын
I am definitely doing this
@MrNudeMonkey
@MrNudeMonkey 8 жыл бұрын
I found the square much more exciting than the hearts tbh
@p.h.shabanabegum615
@p.h.shabanabegum615 Жыл бұрын
Superb sir
@whuspr
@whuspr Жыл бұрын
I now know how to make a square out of hand cuffs. @2:57
@nickcline3792
@nickcline3792 8 жыл бұрын
I just watched this on the Royal Institute two days ago lol. Awesome trick!
@danielbil710
@danielbil710 8 жыл бұрын
If you can say these 4 words fast without getting tongue tied, you are a genius 1)Eye 2)Yam 3)Stew 4)Peed
@leungclj
@leungclj 8 жыл бұрын
even the same jokes as you gave during the lecture in royal institute
@standupmaths
@standupmaths 8 жыл бұрын
I'm an efficient man.
@leungclj
@leungclj 8 жыл бұрын
+standupmaths I agree! 😂😂😂😂
@chrisg3030
@chrisg3030 8 жыл бұрын
As Feb 14 has been and gone this year, I want to move on to another Mobius matter. I notice Matt used quite a wide strip to make his Mobius loop, so how wide can you go? Go wide enough, if you carefully squash it flat it makes a hexagon. But what happens if you go even wider? Use an A4 sheet for example? I just got a crumpled mess with paper, but by using a nice floppy cloth towel of the same proportions (more or less), and making the same moves as for a paper strip, and after smoothing and shaking out some extraneous folds, I got something that looks like the silhouette of a bungalow with a big pitched roof. It passed the ant crawling test for a single surface. I then built that same shape by creasing an A4 paper sheet in exactly the same way. So you can make paper A4 Mobius, or at least a flattened version. But here's the crunch (or crumple): is it possible to make a Mobius loop by bringing together the long (rather than the short edges) and twisting them round. Or can this only be done in 4 dimensions?
@kennethsizer6217
@kennethsizer6217 3 жыл бұрын
"A boat and... a thing. It is a world of disappointment" I'm dying over here!!!!!!!
@SteelSkin667
@SteelSkin667 8 жыл бұрын
If you give that card to someone that isn't into mathematics, they might not be thrilled by the "I shart you" message.
@denummer1893
@denummer1893 6 жыл бұрын
"He was so proud of this shape, he named himself after it" hmmmmm
@m1lkweed
@m1lkweed 8 жыл бұрын
I remember this from your comedy routine where you spilled water on Faraday's desk.
@RaccoonSnunkWolf1011
@RaccoonSnunkWolf1011 8 жыл бұрын
this reminds me of high school lol i did this is junior year with my ap calculus teacher mr. goodrich.
@mytubepleasure
@mytubepleasure 8 жыл бұрын
Hoo,Hoo, now I know what had happened when I last time tried to cut the hearts, I have failed and failed and failed, because I did not know the secret hint, one twisted right, the other twisted left. Thanks for the tips.
@BBAFER
@BBAFER 8 жыл бұрын
I did not know KZbin had heaven in it!
@nalingoel6971
@nalingoel6971 2 жыл бұрын
He named himself after it. 🤣😂
@Pilbaran00b
@Pilbaran00b 8 жыл бұрын
Whoah! A SQUARE!!!! This was awesome :)
@wilkmarton
@wilkmarton 8 жыл бұрын
Done this a few times since I watched the RI video. Took me a few goes to get it right. Still never found the boat and the thing though.
@swedneck
@swedneck 8 жыл бұрын
So wait how do you actually cut a mobious strip in half? There has to be a way right?
@maliwulis
@maliwulis 5 жыл бұрын
In the third grade of the middle school, it wasn’t all that surprising, but you can still cut a $ 100 dollar bill in such a way that an average citizen can easily get into it
@loreleihillard5078
@loreleihillard5078 8 жыл бұрын
he just squared the circle!
@lawrencecalablaster568
@lawrencecalablaster568 8 жыл бұрын
Even though you did this exact same joke in your lecture, it is still brilliant :)
@standupmaths
@standupmaths 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Writing new jokes is over-rated.
@lawrencecalablaster568
@lawrencecalablaster568 8 жыл бұрын
standupmaths :) There are no new jokes, just old jokes told to new people.
@themrfj
@themrfj 6 жыл бұрын
Don't worry thing and boat, I sitll like you * pats boat and thing *
@kennethsizer6217
@kennethsizer6217 3 жыл бұрын
"...and instructions" 🤣😂😜
@MiahooJunk
@MiahooJunk 8 жыл бұрын
What would a two 4d möbius-loops connected to each other cut in the middle will look like?
@standupmaths
@standupmaths 8 жыл бұрын
If you cut a single Klein Bottle in half you can get two möbius loops.
@RoderickEtheria
@RoderickEtheria 4 жыл бұрын
@@standupmaths but he specified two, not just one.
@Niker107
@Niker107 8 жыл бұрын
Is there actually a way to download or buy the amazing music used on this channel? Googling 'Howard Carter' doesn't help in finding it.
@standupmaths
@standupmaths 8 жыл бұрын
We have not released it yet. One day!
@MrHSX
@MrHSX 8 жыл бұрын
+standupmaths There goes a half hour of googling to waste... Please release it soon!
@Karlavaegen
@Karlavaegen 8 жыл бұрын
It's so amazing! From all the tricks I think this is one of the best! Well not the hearts, but the square :) That's beautiful! As a long-time-ago-origami-master-wannabe, I still remember my best moves. Matt, I challenge you to fold a dinosaur from a square piece of paper :) I will upload a video if I think mine will be better looking :p
@IcepickL
@IcepickL 8 жыл бұрын
That's exactly how I would have described it: a boat and a thing.
@zachjensen4555
@zachjensen4555 7 жыл бұрын
He named himself after it Nice
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