Romila Thapar on nationalism and the role of public intellectuals

Professor Romila Thapar is one of the most popular historians of India.
In a freewheeling conversation with Siddharth Varadarajan, the celebrated historian discusses the place of nationalism in contemporary Indian politics, the role of the media and of the public intellectual. #RomilaThapar #SiddharthVaradarajan #TheWire
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[@debapriyaghosh6923]

How can Gandhi Family manipulate Democracy.

[@rks_sng]

Bad meets evil.

[@sachin7488]

your opinion are welcome, as i support free speech. but that doesnt mean it should be just an allegation, if you consider her as an evil then prove your point rather than a baseless comment. atleast read her books first then find the problems in her way of looking at history and then point. as far as i know her style of writing, she is a marxist historian and there is no problem in that as far as she is proving her point logically. she relies on economy of a culture for her explaination as marxists do. and you also have to agree, when you read capitalism, marxist understanding of creation of wealth comes to the clear definition at first but at the solution part marxism fails to provide solution. the main point is not with the ideology, rather with the argument to stand the test of rationality and logic or not.

[@user-bw6zw4jo4o]

रोमिला थापर ने जो भारतीय इतिहास का गर्त किया है वो शायद ही किसी इतिहासकार ने किया होगा..... .The trough of Indian history that Romila Thapar has done, hardly any historian would have done it.

[@parthbloodymaryindia]

Really i like the below point 1.How many people ask the question what are you actually teaching the child. 2. We give the child information and expecting the child to repeat the information 3. where are we teaching the child to really ask question. We have objective type questions where there is no room to ask questions. 4. And if someone asks questions we tag them as anti-nationals. Really there is something wrong in the core.

[@yashagar4443]

the harsh truth it's not people in general but it's these idiots(which include buddha uncles as well)who respect authority a bit to and the only thing that is to blame are the so called sanskars.

[@nitieprasad1]

Is it that Romilla output of education had great critical thinking and why our output is not ? Is it that here output was also like our output ? Only the name she had is great hence, it was notcied Is not current generation of teachers not teaching the same way she taught ? How come different results ? How come now after so many years, she realizes that there is something going wrong in edn ? If Romilla used any great techniques in her time which we can also use now , if she gives historical account ..It is too late realization on the part of her to say this.. It was not good. It is not good now.. It needs to be done something different . welcome more words .

[@breaktime2831]

I think u improve ur knowledge Please read books " The Aryan Invasion Theory" by Stephen Knapp, "The Crime Against India" by Francois Gautier and "A history of India as it happened" by Francois Gautier Kahani communiston ki by Sandeep Dev thanks me letter 🙏

[@jnathan6064]

Excellent discourse. Such intellectual healthy dialogues must be encouraged instead of diabolical TV debates which are not healthy but leaves the viewers baffled and totally confused rather than informed.

[@breaktime2831]

Please read books " The Aryan Invasion Theory" by Stephen Knapp, "The Crime Against India" by Francois Gautier and "A history of India as it happened" by Francois Gautier Kahani communiston ki by Sandeep Dev thanks me letter 🙏

[@thevoices9339]

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[@aek12]

Watch Project Shivoham to know the real histroy of India. She is misinformed I think.

[@mohdelyask]

The Quality of this conversation is so high. We miss this, The main stream media has sunk so low. Arnab Zee India TV Aaj tak ABP news all of them watch them for 15 mins and the head start to pain watching them kiss govt ass. But after watching this I can say that i learned something new today.

[@mohdelyask]

Glad to know that now you became a thinking human again from a blind follower. If BJP is right (which it isn't) then support BJP if congress is then congress if AAP then AAP. What we are, are emotional fools, we vote on the basis of religion caste and do chamcha giri. What I feel is like keeping all these politicians on there toes. Agar kaam nahi kiya tho tata, agar galat baat kiya tho bhahar. We as voters should now start making our own manifestos with timeline and make them all sign them, varna no votes who doesn't sign them. A affidavit kind of thing which will say I will resign if i haven't completed these works in this time and this also can be my resignation if I indulge in religion politics with even any third party volunteers. Then we are making progress.

[@rajbhardwaj598]

Real Indian do you think that follower of bjp are non thinker . Don't you think India has become intolerant after 2014? Or it is political propaganda ? Don't you think these self proclaimed intellectuals are not connected to masses ? Don't show your bigotry that some one is following bjp is not thinking human beings .

[@rohanshinde4327]

Watch NDTV all day.

[@jasramconventschooldelhi6536]

And what About ..................Did u miss it on purpose

[@jasramconventschooldelhi6536]

I mean did u miss NDTV on purpose HA HA HA

[@bimalsahu563]

Communist sympathisers and anti nationalist.. All Thapars genre are same ..sad to. Learn she devise the history curriculum in secular era ..All bogus

[@janeswan1124]

Romila Thapar, Karan Thapar ..... Where is this stinky gene pool from?!!!

[@sachin7488]

i wonder how easily and carelessely you discarded without even listening. thats a perfect example of being illiterate. sorry to offend you. but our first constitutional draft was produced by MN roy who was a communist. SC Bose was more inclined to communism and socialism. but no, you are always wanna be discarding others because thats easy and you dont want to read or use rationale

[@highwaysandcountryroads]

The Wire should begin podcasts for those who would prefer just to hear such interviews while doing their other jobs. You could use SoundCloud and Apple Podcasts for this.

[@rahimveron]

Matiul Islam Just streaming the podcast in the car while returning from work would be refreshing.

[@breaktime2831]

Please read books " The Aryan Invasion Theory" by Stephen Knapp, "The Crime Against India" by Francois Gautier and "A history of India as it happened" by Francois Gautier Kahani communiston ki by Sandeep Dev thanks me letter 🙏

[@jimcasper12]

@@breaktime2831 he will never read it. History as told by Romila Thapar and The Wire

[@abhijeetmahto3665]

woah.. the way she unpacked nationalism

[@jimcasper12]

Yes because nationalism is a threat to Dynasty.

[@pravgulati]

A fearless discussion in true sense. Most clear verbalisation of state of our present times. Must watch.

[@chandrasekhararaovullikant7075]

Wonderful thought provoking to rediscover potential of public intellectuals in national patriotism and national development.Great session fromProf.Ramila about critical enquiry. Autonomy of University role making India. Thanks and regards V.Chandra Sekhara Rao

[@sandyajj]

Siddartha Varadarajan is contributing to our collective consciousness in a very important way through The Wire . It is so vital in today’s times. We all should support such independent media.

[@kartikmann_]

"independent" he's a goddammed Marxist

[@shankariyer8378]

Romilla Thapar is a joke. Gone are those when trust was merely based on reputation. Gone. So our up with it

[@sachin7488]

well. i am sure u hardly can understand what she said uncle

[@broadsword3248]

@@sachin7488 You are the one who fell for her BS. Do you have any idea on how she along with some communist historians took a Supari on suppressing the truth about the presence of the Ram Temple Ruins under the demolished Babri Masjid. The Thapars have done a lot of damage to India.

[@chandrasekhararaovullikant7075]

Thanks to Siddharha and Prof.Dr.Ramila for most important discussion of the day on75 years of Independence of India

[@kunalm2008gmail]

Thanks for getting interviews from intelligent people.. Kudos to thewire

[@araulapatekar]

your english.................hahahaha...........lol

[@kunalm2008gmail]

Rahul Patekar you hahaha

[@jasramconventschooldelhi6536]

I mean did u miss NDTV on purpose

[@anandad4965]

k m Intelligent hahaha. Anyone speaking English with a strange accent is intelligent 😙😂😂

[@vainateyghadigaonkar4172]

Decolonizing Romila Thapar by Rajiv Malhotra : Nation & Nationalism plz watch kzbin.info/www/bejne/qV65dZKko9iJp6c

[@ungradphysmath7438]

Try however one might, one can't refute, nor dismiss Prof. Thapar. She will always remain relevant.

[@paulmekwan9878]

Great

[@milanhomedecor7571]

lots of respect , Kudos to Madam

[@sankarbasu8524]

Thanks for the interview, but,Education has become a business Is it possible to come out this vicious circle ?

[@mohammadashad7051]

Worst scholars are those who go to rulers... Sarkari Maulanas should learn from Romila Ma'am who has refused to accept Padma Awards twice...

[@amitkrishnani3160]

Mohammad Ashad she hasn't even been offered once, your maulvi are in sale for 5000 years

[@yaswanthsaijetti531]

@@amitkrishnani3160 "In January 2005, she declined the Padma Bhushan awarded by the Indian Government. In a letter to President A P J Abdul Kalam, she said she was "astonished to see her name in the list of awardees because three months ago when I was contacted by the HRD ministry and asked if I would accept an award, I made my position very clear and explained my reason for declining it". Thapar had declined the Padma Bhushan on an earlier occasion, in 1992. To the President, she explained the reason for turning down the award thus: "I only accept awards from academic institutions or those associated with my professional work, and not state awards"." - Wikipedia link: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romila_Thapar

[@sameerhasan8101]

@@yaswanthsaijetti531 Good!

[@breaktime2831]

Please read books " The Aryan Invasion Theory" by Stephen Knapp, "The Crime Against India" by Francois Gautier and "A history of India as it happened" by Francois Gautier Kahani communiston ki by Sandeep Dev thanks me letter 🙏

[@breaktime2831]

@@yaswanthsaijetti531 if she didn't want then why she apply? Only for showoff

[@AvinashSingh-ip3zj]

Ma'am I have read all ur books....u r great ma'am....

[@vainateyghadigaonkar4172]

Prof Romila Thapar has not shown willingness in having live conversations with Mr. Rajiv Malhotra, so he is responding to her clips. plz click on this link : kzbin.info/www/bejne/qV65dZKko9iJp6c

[@mohanamohan8726]

@@vainateyghadigaonkar4172 thank god i am a southern guy & not some x kar guy!

[@nilbiswas328]

😂😂😂😂 Romila Tahapar Historian nahi Destorian hai a sab leftist destorians JNU sea padke anti national bante hai maine History mea masters keya hai Romila Tahapar, DN jha l, Irfan Habib, Ramchandra Guha a sab dalal ha charami leftist hai aapko agar Sattya ko janna hai to savi history books ko padna padega aur apni logic ki upoyog karna padega apko Atit ki culture ko bartaman ke sath relate karna padega tavi aap Sattya Jan paoge annatha Rattu tota banke rai jayoge.

[@karankamble1415]

The Wire, I have two requests: a) Please get Professor Chomsky on for a freewheeling, wide-ranging interview on global issues. b) Enter the world of podcasting! (And please develop an RSS feed and, most crucially, an app.)

[@inder19852000]

Muslims and Christians have misused their minority rights in India. Minority appeasement was the failure of Congress. This was put by A. K Antony before Congress leaders after election. Hindu Kashmiri Pandits were driven out of Kashmiri valley by Muslims. Arundathi Roy who criticizes BJP is still living in India whereas Bangladeshi writer Taslima Nasreen has to be afraid of her life in India. India is way ahead of Pakistan and Bangladesh because of its secularism although it has 80% Hindus. Thus both sides have its share of problems

[@sanjaykenny]

If this stupid intellectuals study Sanatan Dharma scriptures they will know what is pluralism and true secularism is. The world is one family.

[@mrnaibara1753]

All brahmins need to be sent back to their motherland Eurasia. They have destroyed this country called bharat.

[@sachin7488]

nope your comment is no more than a fallacy in logic

[@parthdalvi7310]

Romila thapar's history and truth are just parallel lines

[@babin214]

Romilaji being an educator you have to agree it’s a two fold problem. You cannot shy away from the cohesion. If in the name of intectualism & critical thinking you also have to realize the mistakes you made in retrospect your western agenda of influence. Today BJP cannot be blamed for your mistakes. If you people really kept your eyes open then no country could have influenced agenda.

[@sachin7488]

what exactly are the problems u find. u can say that her account were incomplete. and i totally agree with that. Criticizing her is fine but discarding her is not fine. she is an intellectual and ready to take counter arguments.

[@johndsouza8696]

Interesting question and answer, which news ch

[@nitinchauhan5166]

John Dsouza the wire

[@q8cornel]

Watching this in 2023 with the context of all that has happened in last 5 years

[@rajnishkrmanga]

Thanks, Siddhartha. You have brought the most complicated issues facing us in the right perspective. You have always broaden our understanding.

[@aloksingh-bz7nu]

INSIGHTFUL DISCUSSION

[@peacex7697]

well I suppose karan , romilla & Siddharth Varadarajan should form their own media house

[@chandrasekhararaovullikant7075]

Thanks and regards Prof.Dr.Ramila madam for man making discussion.

[@aditsK]

Thank you for this!

[@spdesai25]

Why do they have a problem if I as a citizen of India voluntarily love my country, am a nationalist, a patriot, respect my army, proudly sing my national anthem? Nobody has asked me to do it, I am doing it because my motherland has a deep place in my heart. I reflect the sentiment of the masses of India and these kinds of discussions just show how disconnected these guys are from the pulse of the nation.

[@Rafe383]

Sorry, who is denying you the ability to do any of that?

[@mohanamohan8726]

no surprise a Gurati claims patriotism inc. ! exclusive.

[@mohanamohan8726]

gujrati.

[@spdesai25]

@@mohanamohan8726 Think Indian brother! No Gujrati, Marathi, Marwadi, Bengali, Madrasi, Punjabi, Kanadi.... only Indian.

[@chandrasekhararaovullikant7075]

Insightful and thought provoking discussion.

[@Kartik-xt1cp]

It's funny how Romila who was ordained by the politicians to distort history in her textbooks, thereby upending her credibility as an objective historian alongside Guha and Bipin Chandra is given the authority and clique to speak on any relevant matter of contemporary times

[@dr.m.s.shekharmotua576]

If there was written display of the speakers' speech on the screen it could be easily understood by looking only along with hearing . Thanks .

[@jimcasper12]

Romila Thapar should write a Book on how to “ How to Cook history “. Romila Thapar is classic example of pseudo intellectual. History, knowledge and information as per their perspective is correct .

[@bimaldeep251]

Love your interviews ,the wire .so fearless in these dangerous times

[@majeedpallimanjayalilmelet900]

Thank you Madam for the enlightening thoughts. Am proud as a contemporary of people like you

[@nandishcs]

Generalised discussion without touching any core problems. Using advanced vocabulary to project themselves has intellectuals and facade there alterior motives.

[@manubhatt3]

It's quite hypocritical and ironical on her part to now talk of Education. For decades, she and her likes, were in charge of creating text-books, but they did nothing about addressing the RW arguments(which prima facie, seem to be quite valid and stimulating), treating them with an unwarranted indifference and disdain. Now they(along with us) are suffering and bearing the results of that inaction, in the present rise of Hindu Nationalist Right Wing.

[@loveindia9231]

All must see this video to see exposed Romila by Rajiv Malhotra. Decolonizing Romila Thapar: Nation & Nationalism - 1/5

[@nem6686]

Commenting on excerpts of her videos out of context 🥱

[@kamalunawane1105]

Nice discussion ,

[@jayant10]

Examination papers have the following printed on question papers. "Students must answer all questions" . What it should be is, "Students must question all the answers".

[@nrr9015]

Intelligent debates in society are a privilege, the first set of priorities should be poverty alleviation. Romila Thapar seems so distant from the struggles the common man

[@nulaipulam4926]

many thanks Mr Siddhartha varatharajan

[@theworldofpriyaarora6440]

please do an interview with A P shah too...

[@saurabbbhardwaj1930]

Brilliant.

[@imm6250]

Thank you Wire

[@chandrasekhararaovullikant7075]

Healthy discussion is need of the hour. Rediscovery of nationalism to rejuvenate nation al life.

[@Lalith921]

Good interview. So much to learn.

[@breaktime2831]

Please read books " The Aryan Invasion Theory" by Stephen Knapp, "The Crime Against India" by Francois Gautier and "A history of India as it happened" by Francois Gautier Kahani communiston ki by Sandeep Dev thanks me letter 🙏

[@waheedrather6940]

Romila thapar is one of greatest intellectual and her thinking is upto mark and point only those will understand her who have mind not the imitation of things

[@nitiny7149]

Rami is big idiot & is a distortion

[@nitiny7149]

Romi gadhi is a big idiot

[@sirrobertdowneysenior8080]

mam you are charming..

[@dsbdsb6637]

Critical Thinking = Criticize people where any form of conformity exist but don't do it if it is in the academia itself or only do it when academia gets the jolt by public collectively (Like the right-wing swing all over the world.) For a large time History was written in the form of meta-narrative & the modern departure is to divide it into 'Micro-History' & 'Macro-History'. Thus when the goal post keep changing in academia it is not hypocrisy but when historical texts provide the similar dilemma then 'Historical Narrative' given by 'Pundits of History' is the one to go with. What i heard - Historically things move from A to B to C & thus we are seeing A to B phase & there is a possibility of C phase but i am not sure. Basically keep picking the periods which support your arguments without providing proper contexts so that your point comes out on top of all other 'non-specialist' people about History because you are 'Pundit of History'. I love the honesty in the last 2-3 minutes of the video where she does questions the historical narrative that became the meta-narrative of India's history so i wish she will brings new perspective in her new books & all the best to her for future endeavors.

[@mohamediqbal6701]

Awsome

[@chandrasekhararaovullikant7075]

Madam Prof.Ramila I read your books Freedom movement and Nehru.They are inspiring.

[@debapriyaghosh6923]

How do you define the word intellectual person ? Any body who supports the Gandhi Family is intellectual ?? 😊😊 is it so.

[@ekanth-]

Who are the well wishes of India around the world ?

[@joedias7946]

The well wishers are people who get a economic advantage out of India. These people don't applaud the poor in India only the rich.

[@MeraBharatMahan7]

❤

[@thephilosophicalnerd]

To all the people calling her names what makes you all experts on history?

[@altafkumail904]

Great mam..

[@jagmohansingh2994]

Is this question or lecture itself?

[@unartisticaryan]

Salute to u madam

[@snr5950]

Except by the reputed historians n journlists in the TV talk shows, we the citizens on the ground never experienced the nationalism or anti-nationalism in our daily routine lives. Has these syndroms cropped up in the minds of intellectual community in this country have started after May, 2014 ?

[@mrnaibara1753]

Yes, it's not nationalism. Its urgent of 3% population of videshi brahmin to establish manuvad. All indians r nationalist except manuvadi brahmin

[@snr5950]

You lousie Commy !

[@nivnara]

We are questioning. We are questioning the likes of you, and getting no answers. What exactly are you teaching us? Whose propaganda are you selling to us? Who are your masters? Who funds you? These are pertinent questions.

[@rajudevara5530]

🙏🙏🙏

[@SharadMathurr]

I have read her history books. What a wonderful lady!

[@ekanth-]

The Congress government has been the best apparently 😂

[@jimcasper12]

👏👏👏👌🏾

[@krishanudutta06]

The Wire is the present and the future of journalism in India.

[@fishermann1102]

I love Prof. Thapar! She is so articulate! Thank you both

[@breaktime2831]

U need to improve urself Please read books " The Aryan Invasion Theory" by Stephen Knapp, "The Crime Against India" by Francois Gautier and "A history of India as it happened" by Francois Gautier Kahani communiston ki by Sandeep Dev thanks me letter 🙏

[@GregorSamsa996]

I learnt so many things. Thanks Prof. Thapar.

[@VikramShetty1502]

Where is Soorpanka ? Not invited to the temple opening ?

[@pratikshapandey8027]

When hypocrisy has a face

[@dfwherbie8814]

Who’s a hypocrite?

[@sachin7488]

haha. when you cant understand the dialogue and wanna be one sided. everything seems hypocrisy. lol wish you had guts to read her books once. boomer

[@shawnawasthi]

इन्द्र जिमि जृंभ पर, बाड़व सुअंभ पर रावण सदंभ पर रघुकुल राज है इन्द्र जिमि जृंभ पर ... पवन बारि बाह पर, संभु रति नाह पर ज्यों साहस बाह पर राम ध्वज राज है इन्द्र जिमि जृंभ पर ... दावा दृम दण्ड पर, चीता मृग झुण्ड पर भूषण वितुण्ड पर जैसे मृग राज है इन्द्र जिमि जृंभ पर ... तेज तम अंस पर, कान्हा जिमि कंस पर त्यों म्लेच्छ बंस पर सेर शिवराज है ॥

[@mrnaibara1753]

Abe ram chutiya tha. Ravan had the character. He did not test sita for six months

[@pavanshetty9221]

@@mrnaibara1753 exactly, a man who kidnapped a woman is on a moral high ground to test the woman. Great observation sir👏👏👏👏

[@biswastathagata]

Do we today need Nationalism per se (not only Hindu Nationalism) as desirable political-social formation? In this digital, globalized world fraught with ecological catastrophe?

[@Ketaki2024]

Love to both of you. Thanks a million Siddharth varadarajan sir. It's delight to hear Romila ji. Such clarity is the rarest thing to have.

[@vainateyghadigaonkar4172]

Decolonizing Romila Thapar by Rajiv Malhotra : Nation & Nationalism plz watch kzbin.info/www/bejne/qV65dZKko9iJp6c

[@debapriyaghosh6923]

The Constitution gave the right to vote to both the literate as well as illiterate.

[@vainateyghadigaonkar4172]

Decolonizing Romila Thapar by Rajiv Malhotra : Nation & Nationalism plz watch kzbin.info/www/bejne/qV65dZKko9iJp6c

[@sayeedmohammad8398]

Very scholastic session..we must hear scholars like prof Romila Thapar.. Thanks to Prof Romila n The wire

[@rjhaveri8bh]

12. Pakistan never withdrew from Pakistan occupied Kashmir, gilgit , Baltistan as per the UN resolution, which is the main and primary clause due to which UN resolution could not be implemented. Pakistan, instead it gave/ gifted 5800 sq kms of land to China another thing it did was it mixed its own population inside the Pakistan occupied Kashmir, and massacred millions of Hindus and Sikhs. Mass marriages of Pakistani men with Kashmiri women continued. Also Pakistan changed the borders and took away some provinces of Kashmir and included them into Pakistan. In the same period India has never allowed any Indian to buy land in Kashmir, it has not allowed Indians to get Kashmir domicile status. Infact till today a Muslim in Kashmir valley can get resident permit in 15 days where as a hindu even if he is Kashmiri his son can take 2 years of rigorous effort to get the domicile of own home state. In Indian Kashmir the politicians made a rule via Kashmir constitution girls of Kashmir marrying Indian nationals will loose its citizenship and their children have no rights to anchesterial property in Kashmir. But when Kashmiri girls or boys marry Pakistanis, thier spouse is given kashmiri/indian citizenship and their children get ancestral property rights. 13. Biggest problem has been influx of Pakistanis in India. for 75 years congress and kashmir constitution has left a loop hole Due to this loop hole lot of Pakistanis have got Indian citizenship over the years, we need to reverse this, We need to find out which are the persons who were originally pakistani they married Indian kashmiri girl and then got citizen card of Indian kashmir then they got indian passport. This is a weakness in our law/ kashmir constitution. how this has happened over the years. Mass marriages of Pakistani men with Kashmiri women in POK and Indian Kashmir has continued. Also Pakistan changed the borders and took away some provinces of Kashmir and included them into Pakistan. In the same period India has never allowed any Indian to buy land in Kashmir, it has not allowed Indians to get Kashmir domicile status. Infact till today a Muslim in Kashmir valley can get resident permit in 15 days where as a hindu even if he is Kashmiri his son can take 2 years of rigorous effort to get the domicile of own home state. In Indian Kashmir the politicians made a rule via Kashmir constitution girls of Kashmir marrying Indian nationals will loose its citizenship and their children have no rights to ancestral property in Kashmir. But when Kashmiri girls or boys marry Pakistanis, their spouse is given kashmiri/indian citizenship and their children get ancestral property rights. This is how more and more Pakistanis entering Indian kashmir and then into India. This must be stopped and revered, ll those who were pakistanis their kashmir IDs and Indian passports must be revoked. Now there is not only infux of pakistanis but in Begal there is also influx of bangladeshis in india. These foreigners have been getting indian voter ids, passports, ration cards with the help of the congress and its allies like TMC. 14. the number of Love jihad attacks on Hindu and Sikh women by Kashmir boys who have right to enter India freely have increased. Is it safe to have open borders with Kashmir Muslims which exposes India and its Hindu population. No govt in India has done anything to punish these people who do dreadful things in the name of religion. English paid media wont even put this in news cause it is a Hindu girl who is gang raped by Muslims. Updesh Rana in the video below was killed in a targeted accident who was trying to support a Hindu girl gang raped by Kashmirs. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mX2tfZpqqraZf68 15. Article 35 A was added through a back door entry Bypassing the parliamentary procedures,any article passed by president bypassing parliamentary procedures has an expiry of 6 months after which it is null and void. 16. Hari Singh did not like Nehru, he was always suspicious of his, he even put him in jail once. 17. Dr BR Ambedkar, refused to draft Article 370 said anyone who drafts this will be a traitor . But still Nehru he colluded with Dr. Abdullah (Prime Minister of J&K was working for Maharaja Hari Singh) to draft and introduce the Article 370. Article 370 of the Indian Constitution is a 'temporary provision' which grants special autonomous status to Jammu & Kashmir. Under Part XXI of the Constitution of India, which deals with "Temporary, Transitional and Special provisions", the state of Jammu & Kashmir has been accorded special status under Article 370. Such Temporary provisions can be repealed any time but due to not removing this earlier some lobbyist particularly congress are making so much noise , which is why the BJP needs to go to Supreme court. Else like any other article of the Constitution can be changed even this article is no different. 18. Nehru could not add the Article 370 via parliament majority and this is how any changes happen in the Indian Constitution, instead Nehru ignored the parliament majority and got this added via Presidential order of 1954, The Constitution (Application to Jammu and Kashmir) Order, 1954 came into force on 14 May 1954. So Mr. idiot this is nothing to do with Kashmir it is part of Indian constitution and we can do as we choose with it. 19. Article 35A was not added to the Constitution by following the procedure prescribed for amendment of the Constitution of India under Article 368. Article 370 does not anywhere confer on the President legislative or executive powers so vast that he can amend the Constitution or perform the function of Parliament. This is why Nehru was following illegal means to add such articles to the constitution of India. 20. Clause 3 of Article 370 is clear. ... In other words, Article 370 can be revoked only if a new Constituent Assembly of Jammu and Kashmir is convened and is willing to recommend its revocation. Of course, Parliament of India also has the power to amend its own Constitution to change this provision. So all the provisions are with Indian people not with the Kashmiri separatists as some communists like Arundhati Roy and separatists and even Dr. Abdullah claims. Infact as soon that the Article 370 is removed from Indian constitution automatically the Kashmir constitution gets nullified as it is the Article 370 which provides these right to the people of Kashmir allowing them right to own constitution which in itself is a temporary provision.. No Kashmiri can do a damn about it whether you like it or not, all it takes is majority govt to take the necessary decision to remove this article.

[@deepakprasad5916]

Reality big problem for intellectual

[@manjunathnanjmy26]

Colonial conscious Early Christians

[@VeraHolm]

dUDES, share it, get more views

[@breinyg4054]

Thankyou Romina Thapar you and your bunch of colleagues for those beautiful stories in the guise of history & building the sense of inferiority complex among my fellow Indians. Your lies are debunking now!

[@vivekranjan4708]

thank u @TheWire

[@Curlyproftales]

Yes there is Decline but Decline of Hypocritical Inquiry. Hope Perish in Pain

[@miku1408]

Wonderful conversation. Happy to know she authored the history text books I studied 🙂

[@syedmajazulhaque1915]

5000yrs old... Aryans belonged to India... Never proved by historians... Aryans were outsiders... India has always been strengthened and added upon by "outsiders" who became "Indians"...

[@drtapasroy8024]

You were there for a long time. You could have asked these questions when Congress or Congress-Left combination ruled the country and promoted mediocre historians through back door. They first divided the the country in the communal line of religions, then raised pseudo intellectuals in the name of secularism. These pseudo intellectuals (mostly having hybrid family/ vested interest) distorted and destroyed the history of freedom movement of India. For sixty years out of seventy after independence this lobby was raised by the government at the Centre. These intellectuals do not want that Indians know their real glorious history.

[@pabslondon]

Whats wrong with secular? most of the world is secular. You have to say goodbye to your imaginary (sky god) friends eventually

[@nityajyotidaimary4691]

I am boro and I m not a terrorist mam . I am a student. and I believe in non violence ,, father of our Bharat taught us non- violence that what i follow ,, i m too disappointed at your view about boros..mam..plz republish the book

[@broadsword3248]

Two Foes of the Indian state on the same Platform. Romila Thapar should worry about what her Epitaph will be. She should be ashamed of her past and her deplorable actions in promoting British Imperialism and manipulating Indian history through academic subeterfuges. This guy Vardabhai was enrolled to clean up her reputation which was nothing short of toxic. What happened to her sense of critical inquiry when a temple was discovered under the Babri Masjid. She and her cohorts stood on their heads to conceal history to show that the Ram Temple under the Masjid was a figment of the Hindu imagination. Thank God for the BJP, RSS and other Dals that took her on. She talks a good game but she knows her time is up.

[@delwardian]

your British accent signifies how out of touch you are. Your party and the left had the control of this country till 2000s, and now you talk about education. You should have demanded primary education for all after independence irrespective of religion, caste and sex. So now this rising middle class is being radicalised and i hate that, but you all are to blame for. India should have liberalised much before 1991. This is the irony that the left invited the right in India. :(

[@devensharma6651]

she destroyed entire perception of history

[@MayureshVaidya]

Problem with intellectuals is, that they are intellectuals and rest are not.

[@KushagraNamdev]

She is a distorian not historian

[@rajnish8918]

Bhai kehna kya chahte ho

[@Sumankoley510]

In Europe if someone doesn't know hibru language can't get a P.hd in history.But Romila thapar have a P.hd & she guide P.hd student In the field of ancient india's history even though she confessed that she doesn't know Sanskrit. If a historian can't read the available primary source which are in Sanskrit God knows how she became a historian What a irony 🤣🤣 Maculay putri Romila

[@rakeshkatarey6067]

Whether some rulers like her or not, she remains the foremost historian of all times from India, recognized worldwide for the sheer rigour she brings to her work. Only Ranajit Guha comes anywhere close with subaltern history.

[@krsna0070]

Intellectual must be converted to Islam!!!! Ab n congress hai jiske talwe chat k chatukar itna paisa kamaya hai!!!!

[@ashiv0007]

Thanks for teaching us your twisted version of false history.

[@VishalKaundal-hc2vc]

She had done good job at least listen her if you have come this far

[@SaeedAhmad-oc5xy]

Decent personality mem thapar respect from 🇵🇰