Romulans in the Delta Quadrant? Kazon / Vidians - Star Trek Starship Battles

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What would have happened if the Romulans had been whisked away to the Delta Quadrant like Voyager and the Maquis Raider?
Today we're going to see how a Romulan D'eridex deals with the Kazon Nistrum and the Vidiians.
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[@AJUniverse]

2:31 The Caretaker took one look at the Cardassians and their tech, said no thanks, and sent them as far away from him as he could.

[@MAZE4]

A D'deridex class warbird in the Delta Quadrant would run riot, apart from the Borg.

[@adamantu]

4:18 "It's also the episode where Harry Kim died" - Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?😂

[@sharonec5419]

Only 2. Emunitions and then Deadlock I think it was called where there are two Voyagers.

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

Poor Harry 🤣🤣

[@s.patrickmarino7289]

I think an interesting match up would be the Ferengi against the Vidians. I strongly suspect the Ferengi would win without much of a contest. The Ferengi would quickly contact the Vidians, offer to sell them a large number of Cardassians for harvesting. They would cut a deal that was almost too good to believe. After the Vidians died from the defective body parts, the Ferengi would take their ships.

[@Brasc]

The Romulans - especially a Tal Shiar ship - would have made more deals than Janeway did. For example, they likely would have negotiated a technology sharing deal with the Kazon with the Caretaker's Array and not given a damn about the Ocampa as a whole, though I could see them bringing some on board for study and to utilize their telepathic talents. The arrangement would work up to the point where the Romulans would see it to their advantage to betray the Kazon and make off with the Caretaker's technology and some Ocampa, probably with the help of another Kazon Sect that they negotiate another deal with and continue sowing discord among the Kazon Sects as they go, getting them to battle more among themselves than going after their Warbird.

[@SoundwaveSG1]

put the Romulans against the Devore, The Malon, The Hirogen, and Species 8472.

[@AJUniverse]

3:20 Only reason Voyager ever had trouble with the Vidians, when they weren't anchored in place by a quantum duplicate of themselves, was because the show was still pretending to care about torpedo use at that point. A sustained volley of photons would've crippled a Vidian ship based on their actual on-screen performance.

[@stratfordbaby]

You forgot about the baby! THE BABY. "Harry, get the baby! That's an ORDERRRRR Ensign!!!! Little Naomi Wildman.

[@Ronald006]

you have heavy plasma torps as well use them lol

[@ArtStaringBlankly]

Doesn't the Romulan ship have a singularity for its power generation? Is it feasible that they simply cloak and use their warp drive at cloaked cruise speed to steadily go back home? Like the Vulcans they live quite a long time. An 80 year journey might not be so bad in their eyes. Probably good way to scope out future conquests. Although if it happened around the time of Voyager, they would eventually return home with their home system destroyed by a supernova. That would be a shitty way to return home after spending 80-100 years under cloak at warp 8 (I remember that episode called Tin Man from TNG said under cloak they can't go very fast without being detected. Warp 8 or something.)

[@gregkelly2145]

But not having to stop at all would still get them home faster than Voyager (without future interference).

[@kaidenshepard8446]

Deadlock - the one where Kim and Baby Wildman dies Learning Curve - where Tuvok takes the Maquis officers and runs tactical simulations on the holodeck

[@ginholic1658]

Thanks Badger for the video❤!!! Just as I thought the Romulans would have cleaned up in the delta quadrant.

[@tinynuggins1029]

Vivian captain: " There's kidneys in that nebula." Lol

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

😂😂😂

[@GreatestCornholio]

I think the Romulans would have just floated around the delta quadrant cloaked for the majority of their trip back. But I’m sure they would have ambushed a good few ships on the way, for tech and supplies.

[@matts1166]

As technologically backwards as a good chunk of the Delta Quadrant was, staying off the radar just seems like a good strategy for the Romulans. They have a quantum singularity for a power source, so they will never run out of fuel like Voyager, and thus never need replicator rationing either. Sure, a Warbird is slower than Voyager by a long-shot, but they don't need to stop for fuel, stop for food, and with the cloaking device they'd likely be able to slip by "big bads" much more closely and stop less for repairs. With as large as the ship is it could also be better as a generational ship. Flip on the cloaking device, make a beeline home. I bet it would be a much more boring trip than what Voyager had.

[@TheThewulasvegas]

I think a great idea would be to bring a galaxy class and of some of her variants to the Delta quadrant.

[@miles2378]

2:34 I don't think we should take 7of9's psychotic break at face value.

[@bradarthur3603]

This was a cool battle. That warbird did way better than I thought it would. Really wish we had gotten some followup on the Vidians after George Costanza/The Think Tank cured them. 😁

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

That would have been cool. I guess voyager was too far away by that point. "Serenity Now!"

[@RockRedGenesis]

During Basics, Voyager vs the Kazon fleet, Voyager was just about holding its own against them until that Kazon guy did his explodium trick and knocked out Voyagers power systems, allowing them to be boarded. And a Romulan warbird is far stronger than an Intrepid Class.

[@Quickstart92]

Fun fact . Quantum Torpedoes have plasma warheads.

[@crownprincesebastianjohano7069]

It would be a long trip home for a Warbird. They are slower than Starfleet ships.

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

I forgot about that! 🖖

[@justtheaverageone3840]

4:10 Omg Deadlock. The one episode I watched as a young adult i could never rewatch until very recently. I grew up with stuff like the walking dead in my teens (which I probably really shouldn't have done) but that was by far not as disturbing as that voyager episode was to me. Even tho you don't really see much in terms of gore it is just my imagination that runs wild with that kind of body horror, same with the episode where belana gets split in 2 and one of the vidiians wears the face of one of the victims. The scene were the vidiians broke into sickbay, and you later see the aftermath where they were ripping out the organs of the killed... damn.

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

Deadlock truly was shocking. I remember seeing it when I was about 12, it was very upsetting. The sickbay bit was horrible and see what happened to the crew... The face transplant was just disturbing. A bit too dark if you ask me for a star trek show. 🖖

[@RockRedGenesis]

@@RetroBadgerGaming The episode was a bit frightening, you see them harvesting Samantha Wildman not long after she has given birth to Naomi, and they were questing where the newborn was. They were willing to harvest her too.

[@tyro244]

According to The Voyager Conspiracy ( well, one of them ) that Seven of Nine created in her over charged mind, the Romulans were in the Delta Quadrant all the time.

[@stevelapierre4776]

😳Gosh Admiral, I would imagine the Romulans would not be so ''nice'' in the Delta Quadrant, eeh.. and would take out the Kazon.. gosh.. and the Vidians, yes, they are scary and True, very evil.. just that one that the Doctor cured.. and the rest,, like the show, gosh, I watched it again and eeh. wicked episode.. Love the battle Admiral, and I would say yes for the human factor, but first time seeing the AI use the cloak often like that hmm.. !!!😊🖖

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

Its a really good episode. The doc really progressed from that point. Thanks Steve 🖖

[@stevelapierre4776]

@@RetroBadgerGamingYes it was scary though, and the Doctor, gosh I always liked him, remember that episode where he slapped Tom, and he said ''slap me back'' and Doctor made his hologram not solid lol.. gosh🖖

[@mobeasley8577]

A fleet battle of all of my favorite ships: USS Zeng He Inquiry Class Enterprise H Enterprise G (Eclipse) Excelsior 2.0 Akira Borg Galaxy Class Borg Defiant Klingon Borg Hunter Klingon New Bird of Prey Scimitar vs the 29th Century Borg Cube

[@PKPhoenix83]

The Kazon are the equivalent of what would happen if you gave some bums HUMVEES and a little gas money.

[@TrentonBennett]

I agree about the Vidian's. That one Vidian scientist who fell in love with the Dr. She said not all of them were bad. Yes a lot were pure evil. I mean hell they were willing to kill Naomi Wildman for her organs. Until the Doctor and Harry saved her. Yes it was actually in the episode Deadlock. You are right the episode "The Voyager Conspiracy" is where Seven found out that a Cardassian ship was pulled into the Delta Quadrant and don't remember if it was mentioned it was sent home or not. Even one on one just one Vidian ship proved a lot for Voyager to handle. The Kazon on the other hand yeah Voyager had no problem. Unless they were attacked by three or more of their capital ships all at once. Like in the episode "Basics (Part 1)" when Seska conspired with Maje Culluh and his faction to take over Voyager. No surprise that a Wardbird was able to take out a small fleet of Kazon ships.

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

It's strange with voyager. They struggled with the giant kazon ships in episode 1, yet in basics did much better(to a point). Maybe they learned a lot about the kazon ships by that point. Voyager was full of advanced scanners.

[@Sevarrius]

I'd like to see how the Romulans fair against the Hirogen.

[@enterprise-h312]

4:34 Did "Star Trek: Online" ever do anything with the fact that "The Phage" was cured by the Think Tank? 4:40 Honestly, that relationship was the only one that felt both earned and earnest.The Doctor's other love interests didn't even come close.

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

I totally forgot about think tank curing the phage. Not sure, I haven’t played all the way through Star Trek online yet. Completely agree about the docs relationship, it was the best one on the show. Tom and BLT’s never felt right 🖖

[@RighteousPursuitMinistries]

One on one I think the Intrepid class would win against a warbird. It's agile enough to avoid the forward weapons arc, yet has the phaser power of a Galaxy class ship, and type 6 photon torpedoes.

[@toryunaminosaki1022]

an Intrepid vs a single D'Dex...it depends. I think an Intrepid would be more than nimble enough to stay above or below it, to avoid the forward cannons and torpedoes

[@getreal6124]

Romulan plasma torpedos ARE stronger than quantum torpedos, partly because they are a different technology, where the plasma envelops the material it hits and weakens it, forcing an implosion; at close range it outdamages hits done by any quantum.

[@T0ffik1]

Tbh romulan warbird without any plot armor to both sides would squash a voyager. It was said in TNG and shown that one forward disruptor volley takes down Enterprises D shields to 30%. So even adjusting upgrades to time (only for Fed's, and making romulans not advance or upgrade at all) voyager's shields could at best be equall to TNG's shields (but on 99,9% they were significantly weaker). Also nice that this model of D'deridex at least has some weapons but sadly not in the right places, as then it wouldnt be possible to sit in his blind sides almost whole time.

[@Jarsia]

If for no other reason than possessing a cloak, a trip through the delta quadrant would be much easier in a Warbird. Plus with a much larger crew and way more space on board, not to mention the efficiency of the singularity core, I expect the Warbird would have an easier time being self sufficient on such a long voyage. Unfortunately, they'd need to be. Warbirds are slower than Galaxy class ships, and therefore much slower than Voyager. Good thing romulans live a long time.

[@T0ffik1]

Dont forget that all ships could hold up high speed only for not that big periods of time. So the total difference would be much much smaller (possibly warbird could be in total faster, as the effectiveness of singularity core + tbh i dont know how long both ships can go on cruiser speeds). But Warbird would sure have some problems with escaping situations that might be overwhelming him (while cloak wouldnt be effective). Also the sheer size of this ship could force more agressive reactions from races (as bigger ship = bigger threat).

[@Jarsia]

@@T0ffik1 It stands to reason that the maximum speed and top cruising speed are proportional. Tin Man showed us a warbird literally burning out it's engines trying to keep up with the Enterprise. My guess would be a trip between 100-150 years for a warbird at it's top sustainable speed.

[@T0ffik1]

@@Jarsia eee nope it never was proportional in reality nor in star trek from what i remember in memory alpha

[@Jarsia]

@@T0ffik1 Give 1 example where a ship has a higher sustainable cruising speed but a lower top speed. I'm quite certain there aren't any. Nor would it make the slightest bit of sense. Tin Man made it very clear that the galaxy class can outrun a warbird, and the Intrepid class was the fastest starfleet ship at launch. A warbird would not get back faster than Voyager. The singularity core is irrelevant, it only provides power, the warp engines themselves couldn't handle it.

[@T0ffik1]

@@Jarsia Ok for example WW2 data (as its the easiest to access), Yamato class battleship (max speed) 27kts, cruising speed (for max range - thats what voyager would do) 16-18 kts. Iowa class BB for comparision 33kts max speed, cruising speed for max range is 15-17kts. Will later post data from newer ships

[@jyralnadreth4442]

The D'deridex would be an ideal choice of ship to take into the DQ for a long range Solo mission. Quantum Singularity Reactor requires only deuterium plasma as fuel which can be obtained anywhere, its cloaking device would eliminate the need for a lot of fights Voyager had to engage, Far more crew and crew facilities will deal with issues like sharing the holodeck between 150 people 😂, Larger compliment of Auxiliary vessels and shuttlecraft and finally being a stronger combat ship than an Intrepid Class

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

It is an impressive ship. That's a good point about the cloaking device, that would have been very useful. Would a much larger ship have survived being whisked to the delta quadrant? Voyager took massive damage.

[@jyralnadreth4442]

@RetroBadgerGaming the Caretaker brought many ships there... Federation exploding consoles killed most of the casualties. The Galor survived both trips, and we know fragile they are

[@SupCom78]

i like the dederidex a bit slow on turning sure but the ship can put out a punsh.

[@ajteer]

DD doesn't mess around with these Delta quadrant rats.

[@compositesquare]

Put the Husnock Warship against the Scimitar Battleship.

[@sharonec5419]

He has done that.

[@compositesquare]

@@sharonec5419 Cool

[@joenicholson5609]

Isn't a small part of the Romulan Star Empire either in the Delta Quadrant or butted up against the Delta Quadrant?

[@robinvan1983]

i think so, and the hirogen edged up to it

[@chriscepec1655]

Unless they changed things in the last 15 years I'd say no. Looking down on the galaxy the Upper left was alpha, Upper right beta, Lower left Delta, Lower right gamma. But being that space is not 2D it's possible but unlikely

[@dorianshepard2841]

According to Resurrected Starships, the concept creator for the D'deridex meant for it to be much larger than shown in episodes, around 1300 meters. Is there a mod that has a warbird that reflects that much larger size and presumed power?

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

I never knew that. I’m not aware of any corrected version in bridge commander 🖖

[@TheIndyTrekker]

Klingons and Cardassians in the DQ (if you haven’t already)

[@XHunter442]

The computer factor made a difference they cloaked.. i wonder if they didn't cloak would u have won? Ty for the video and LLAP!

[@MisterMarin]

There's a lost Voyager episode about Rastafarian Vidiians. It's called Dreadlock. Vidiians in that episode speak with a Jamaican accent.

[@beh.r_co-mando.1374]

Lol, don't let Cirroc Lofton catch wind of that, or he'll bitch and moan about how it's racist and how Paramount should take it off of viewing platforms. 😂

[@AJUniverse]

4:18 That doesn't narrow it down as much as you think.

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

🤣🤣🤣 Poor Harry! After everything he went through, he deserved a promotion... 🖖

[@whatsup3820]

Devore ships, Hirogens and think tank ship?

[@deepdivedylan]

Of course the Romulans defeated the Kazon! They were deemed worthy of assimilation!

[@sharonec5419]

You would have to wonder what would happen if the Borg assimilated every other species around where the Kazon were and just leave the Kazon untouched. Would the Kazon then by like pests or flys to the borg just to be slapped out whenever the Borg are bored? You would the Kaxon woukd have been usefull as basic cleaning drones maybe or labour drones to do the heavy lifting.

[@Filmfan32]

Please do the same with the Klingons

[@robbcowan1936]

How about a Warbird vs Hirogen

[@ronniejacksonjr5607]

Can you do a what if the Enterprise D or Enterprise E arrives in the delta quadrant

[@KallenSC]

Nope plasma torpedoes aren't powerful than quantums....they just work differently ....Plasma is pure heat power, quantums work with quantum physic - which means they little "cheating" normal physic....

[@martinf7717]

Id like to see cardassian an klingons in the delta quadrant

[@BeansAndWeens]

there were Klingons in the delta quadrant, (i don't remember the episode name) but an old D7 class had been used as a generation ship for a group of Klingons making a religious journey.

[@martinf7717]

@@BeansAndWeens i remember the episode but i like to see them fight

[@MELGOZAFIDEL]

A big 22nd century Starfleet armada versus the Defiant.

[@nonyabisness6306]

D'deridexes are very scary. TNG didn't really do them justice. These by en large outdo Galaxy class ships AND they can strike from ambush via cloak.

[@chriscepec1655]

Yeah the technology of the time for TV shows was lacking and expensive so it limited what they could do. Also in tng it was stated in a fight the galaxy would win with moderate to heavy damage. Starfleet in tng had to fight with both arms tied behind their back cause they were ordered to keep the peace no matter what

[@UncommonKnowledge587]

The Vidians had a machiavellian approach, that makes them abhorrent. I never liked them 🖖

[@beh.r_co-mando.1374]

Badger, is this Warbird a certain mod for the game? Or does it come with some of the big mods that you've been using to show us these ships. I noticed this model is SUBSTANTIALLY better than the vanilla Warbird from B.C. However, there is a visible lack of detail on this model, and some pieces of it are disproportionate to the Warbird in TNG (such as the aft, as well as the nacelles, both of which to me look bloated compared to the sane sections on the real Warbird). Anyway, cool vid, as always. Never doubted the Romulans for a second. The D'deridex is my second favorite design in all of Star Trek, coming right after the "D." Oh, and about the Vidians. It may seem harsh, but I never really had any sympathy for their cause. As you said, they may have had a terrible disease, but they way they went about tackling it was so vile and evil. I mean, remember "Faces," that one episode where Tom, B'Elanna, and Pete Durst get captured by the Vidians? They not only use them as forced laborers, but the head Vidian, Sulan, friggin' kills Durst and graphs his face onto his own in order to look more attractive to the Klingon half of B'Elanna. That's some fuckin' Joseph Mengele type shit right there, man. Nah, if there had not been a cure for the Vidians, I would not have felt bad...

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

The warbirds is from bridge commander remastered. It comes with it installed by default. I forgot about that episode with the face graft, that just shows you how barbaric they really were.

[@beh.r_co-mando.1374]

@RetroBadgerGaming OK, interesting about the Warbird, thanks for the reply, man!