Romulus Reveals How 'Big Chap' Survived Alien 1979

[@Mega-Tales]

Did you like how they tied Alien 1979 to Alien Romulus? Comment below:

[@jotr.9786]

no

[@davefuller84]

Oh that’s a bingo

[@barryvincentredmond3973]

The original Alien movies were superb.Ever since these rehash versions just get more desperate and off the radar in their attempts to cash in on this so called "franchise".

[@jeffreyokun2355]

No, it is terrible and romulus sucks donkey balls! They should have made their own IP and it could have been a decent sci-fi. Tying it to Alien is a terrible idea. Btw, can anyone tell me what kind of magic material Ripley's hook is made out of that it resists the acid blood of the Alien? Romulus is so filled with plot holes it's a stinky swiss cheese.

[@danethorson]

Clear case of whataboutism...

[@babydavid321]

Just wish they included a few scenes of big chap causing chaos on the ship & how it eventually died. Was looking forward to seeing the original Alien back in a movie.

[@kastnesg]

Thats exactly what I was thinking. Start with a few minutes of the capture and what happened, then proceed with Romulus.

[@TheBungeroo]

@@kastnesg That's the next Movie !!!

[@plastikloser]

That's in a comic coming soon

[@milkman78gel]

Comic explaining this comes out October 16

[@JayC86969]

Wa just about to say exact same thing! Also, how did he get back so close to the nostromo, as it was the narcissus lifeboat he was flung out of, which went quite a way away before the detonation. Maybe I'm just being pedantic, romulus was a great film though

[@_GeneralMechanics_]

Audience: "they killed Big Chap offscreen!?" Hicks, Newt, Shaw: "....first time?"

[@bad74maverick1]

yeah but Hicks and Newt were reconned into cannon thankfully.

[@gamerdude7481]

​@@bad74maverick1 elaborate

[@nialllappin4159]

​@@bad74maverick1nah they're still dead. Love Alien 3 nobody expected them die great movie opener

[@FOXCYBORGNINJA]

@@gamerdude7481 Well “Predator” got “prey” right!, prey is getting a sequel, however “Predator” is also getting another sequel set in a future setting. Romulus director and prey’s director are apparently doing an AVP film. “The predator 2018” had actual scenes of Ms Yutani in the background of the scene at the end. Ms Yutani was portrayed by the same actress as “AVP 2 requiem” Françoise Yip who played Ms Yutani in that film. Early 20th/21 century CIA’s “OWLF” “Otherworld lifeform” had been tracking and collecting information on predator vists to earth and had been retrieving and collecting bits and pieces of predator technology including plasma weapons. Somewhere between 2005 and 2018 due to budget cuts OWLF had its mission given to the private sector called Stargazer. Well Stargazer had its mission terminated and everything was given back to OWLF with McKenna playing a bit part in the organization including his son (entire plot of the predator 2018). Well Stargazer/OWLF have cracked the predator language and they recovered a mostly intact predator spacecraft. In the end of the scene where the predator killer armour is unveiled Ms Cullen Yutani can be seen even though she doesn't have a speaking lines. Well there were filmed scenes that were filmed but ultimately cut that had a predator hypersleep pods containing an adult Newt and Ripley each wearing a weyland-yutani breathing mask.

[@ghidorahsdevil8729]

hicks wasnt dead in alien 3 but a random person from the stasis interrupted dlc from colonial marines

[@bobbygoestoabyss6624]

"I admire it's purity" - Bilbo Baggins -

[@michaelneyland2729]

Not to nit-pick but I'm pretty sure that was Picard from Babylon 5.

[@cookedit]

​​@@michaelneyland2729I thought it was Anakin Skywarp when he destroyed the CIA headquarters in Rebel Moon?

[@jaredbeilstein209]

​@@cookeditnah you're thinking of Mister Chief after he wiped out the Reapers created by Skynet

[@BLTS147]

Pretty sure it was cardboard Mario when he gave raw beef to Gordon Ramsay in Skyrim

[@utrak]

*Walter White

[@tranquilmischief]

"It's a queen. She'll breed you'll die. Everyone in the company will die." -Ripley 8

[@riserjenkins811]

Not if Ridley Scott has anything to say about it. Ridley hates the concept of the queen. Hence why we did not see a queen in Romulus.

[@afrywijoyo]

I miss Sigourney!

[@Dr.BrightM]

​@@riserjenkins811uhhh thats not why. This took place between the first and second movies. Why would they need or have a queen when they were able to bio-engineer face huggers? Only purpose of a queen is to lay eggs. Not to mention security compromises if she escaped on the station

[@ottertubetv9356]

"Plot Armor" is the name of the cocoon.

[@alltheflavors9673]

the whole Scott take after Alien is just a bunch of pretentious dumbsplaining.

[@josecat436]

It makes more sense than being able to a massive hive with the same material

[@lewis7515]

@@ottertubetv9356 This long gone past the point where you can feel able to ignore some inconsistencies and enjoy it like you could do with Alien. It's just ridiculous now - "Cocoon", isn't even the worst part: where even is its belly to store all that massive amount of cocoon material? Garbage.

[@JokeShinet]

Why u think that?

[@Dano6sic69]

@@alltheflavors9673 this whole movie took ideas, shots and literal lines from the other movies just so Ridley could say "Chronologically, my movie did it all before they did". Make no mistake, Romulus was Ridleys movie. Alvareze was a fall guy in case it failed.

[@bambino100011]

Plot hole…… wouldn’t Ripley’s anchor arrow have melted inside the Xenomorph due to the acidic blood??

[@herrlogan17]

Yep, good point.

[@paulmccluskey3466]

Valid point. Dare say there could be some explanation. Being in the vacuum of space, making the cocoon etc. but logically it shouldn’t be there in my opinion

[@CrayonEater0311]

I....yeah..valid

[@keyss78]

Teflon coated harpoon.

[@BjorsN]

Didnt bishop make some comment about the xenomorph blood being acidic when it comes into contact with air?

[@brettlueckfeld6248]

I never thought about the Alien Queen surviving. Fantastic video!

[@bartsullivan4866]

It'll be the next film you watch finding the queen cocooned

[@cgi2002]

Arguably the queen from aliens should have died or suffered badly when entering the (thin) atmosphere of lv426 as she was blown towards it when ejected from the Suloco's drop bay. She'd not have had time to do much about that. Her surviving the fall is reasonably achievable due to her pure durability and intact exoskeleton, her surviving the atmospheric entry is more challenging but not impossible. The queen in AvP however has a more questionable chance of survival under the artic ice, possible but even that is risky. Her exoskeleton was compromised (spear through head, multiple smaller cuts clean through her hide) in several places, meaning her soft tissue would be subject to the deep ocean pressures which could kill her. Oh as for why big chap was amongst the debris from the nostromo exploding (worth noting its not a nuclear blast, just the drive going critical and exploding, there would be debris, quite alot of it infact, especially from the refinery), that's fairly easy. Ripley in the Nascisus was flying directly away from the blast (and thus the debris fields origins), big chap was ejected and propelled in that direction by the engines. It would likely have passed through the debris field and likely latched onto something in it to stop itself.

[@agenthunk5070]

imagine them finding it in space with ripley's shoe.....

[@bartsullivan4866]

@@cgi2002 I am just not crazy about the cloning process much better if they found another egg from the original derelict ship intact after the nuclear blast if they did find big chap he'd probably just be a skeleton by then. But then that would screwup the alien timeline. Shit ok maybe just have it be after Aliens instead of in-between screws up the whole timeline. Seems like the technology in a prequel is more advanced than the technology of previous films not crazy about that either.

[@cgi2002]

@@bartsullivan4866 plenty of stuff in it that bugs me. Finding him is fairly low on the list. Face huggers without eggs, the black goo, the really short chest bursting timeframe. And a few other things. Still tho, I enjoyed the film, it was the best aliens film since 3.

[@stephenkolostyak4087]

0:31 anyone else remember when the alien tried to hide inside of the thruster and got obliterated? I remember.

[@CrackCatWantsPat]

Never happened, watch the scene again

[@AlexanderTripiten]

Thruster yeeted alien back, not disintegrated him.

[@smashdintel6406]

Should of disintegrated it. watch any rocket take off tell me something survived being inside the ejection nozzle.

[@AlexanderTripiten]

@@stephenkolostyak4087 On Earth maybe, when you need tremendous amount of energy for living the Earth atmosphere, but in space you don't need so much energy. We don't even know what they use for moving in space. Alien kind of survived, so he didn't hurt so much with his chitinous cover.

[@darkgameover]

Alien 3 the Xeno survives molten metal being poured on it. Only the cold water causes it's death

[@Shadow200001]

Actually, the Alien Queen from LV 426 was jettisoned out of the USS Sulaco's bottom. The SAME area where the Drop ships were 'dropped' from. Now she was moving fairly fast, BUT unless the ship was already moving out of orbit the Moment the drop ship carrying Ripley, Newt, Hicks, Bishop and the Queen left orbit, chances are slim I feel that she would have missed the planet (even though you don't see the planet in the void as Ripley is trying to Jettison the Queen. The Sulaco's Ventral side was facing the planet when the Dropship launched, and assuming it had a standard Enterprise-style geo sync with her side to the planet, I think, in all likelihood, that when the Queen was jettisoned, The Gravity of LV-426 caught her and pulled her down planetside. Subjected to the heat of Reentry, followed by a most likely super sonic traveling speed. I am 99.99% sure that when the Queen landed, it was like a Bug on a Windshield.

[@somenormaluser2407]

The queen from LV 426 died to an engineer a while ago

[@hughw2377]

Amazing that romulus showed us the drone alien could cocoon itself and also we got to see how the baby alien further incubates itself into an adult.

[@tedbundy4373]

Reminded me of gremlins 2

[@frankthecat1660]

Romulus was forgettable hot garbage.

[@luc2527]

@@frankthecat1660 Nah but you are.

[@frankthecat1660]

@@luc2527 😭

[@jrperry1611]

Finally an explanation to why it grows so fast, I’ve always been wondering wtf the chest bursters do when they scamper off like they do.

[@AllenDePriest]

What doesn’t make sense is how they found it floating in the debris field of the Nostromo when it was thousands of miles away from the massive explosion when it was ejected from the shuttle.

[@alltheflavors9673]

thats how much faith they have in the target demographic.

[@AllenDePriest]

@@alltheflavors9673 it’s a total representation of todays lazy writing, and absolutely no thought in developing a solid story. Writers think that we’re stupid and that putting in “remember berries” is going to placate, and keep us happy. Aliens is my favorite movie. Alien Romulus is a sad, embarrassing addition to the franchise.

[@CrackCatWantsPat]

Maybe they had billions of nano bots traveling at the speed of light searching for it

[@thetombuck]

​@@CrackCatWantsPatyou gave me a good laugh thank you. It's even funnier now that I know you were being serious. Giant super corporation has space truckers hauling ore in giant rusty hulks but also has a fleet of light speed nanobots that can scour the galaxy instantaneously. They can find an alien floating in space but can't find the planet it came from despite having the exact coordinates.

[@4xplor_au]

Exactly my problem with it. Not a perfect movie by any means.

[@onetruekeeper]

The space jockeys likely used the xenomorphs to construct spaceship hulls and habitable structures from their secretions after observing them build huge hives where they stored the eggs containing the facehugger

[@marloneverington]

Nice

[@JamesChaytor-p4k]

An idea definitely worth exploring

[@maldium8625]

Their secretions are still mysterious and interesting. Big chap doesn't seem to need to breath, but we don't know if he can survives to the cold and the radiations from cosmic rays in empty space without protection from his cocoon.

[@messono]

@@JamesChaytor-p4k The alphas (spacejockeys) used organic spaceships.. some KZbinr had a really interesting concept about it

[@ReedsOfBabylon]

Sooooo… 1. The Nostromo somehow survived a nuclear explosion, specifically its sign with its lovely name 2. The Narcissus which was probably miles away in space blasted an alien out into the infinite hugeness of space at some place 3. The Alien with acid blood was harpooned and it didn’t melt 4. The Alien spinning out into the massive vastness of space cocooned itself in space 4. The Alien was found probably days, possibly weeks, maybe months after the nuclear explosion, because well space is rather large because there was a tracking beacon on a harpoon, yes they put a tracking beacon on a harpoon 5. The Harpoon with a tracking beacon in it, in the vastness of space, spinning at great speed, to an Alien which has cacooned itself, miles away from a nuclear explosion, is found days, weeks, months later in the vastness of space because they put a tracking beacon on a harpoon, because every harpoon would definitely have a tracking beacon on it. 6. The Alien, big chap, the single most important Alien out of all the Aliens, is killed off screen after going through a miracle of being found, sorry a tracking beacon attached to a harpoon. This film man

[@alltheflavors9673]

"Oh man, the bullshit piled up so fast in Vietnam you needed wings to stay above it." Col. Willard. Apocalypse Now (1979). The amount of pedantic writing in Scott's movies needs a FTL ship to escape it's gravitational field.

[@thetombuck]

What they don't want you to know is that big chap actually had a mobile phone with galactic roaming enabled. He just rang up WY and said "hey can you pick me up?

[@SHINdanny]

@@thetombuck no mobile phone, he did the E.T. thing, Big Chap call home

[@thetombuck]

@@SHINdanny somehow, Big Chap phoned home

[@funkervogt47]

1. I agree it's ridiculous. 2. Yes... 3. As others have noted, the acid might require the presence of air to melt things. Also, scientific-minded fans have speculated that the aliens don't actually use acid for blood; their blood is non-acidic, and the acid just sits in sealed compartments under their skin. It's purely a defensive feature and serves no other purpose. The aliens might not have acid compartments in the part of the torso where Ripley shot Big Chap. 4. I agree the introduction of the "cocoon" was an annoying plot contrivance, as well as a poorly explained one. Until watching this video, I didn't realize that the mass of material Big Chap was found inside of was a cocoon. 5. Where does it say that the harpoon had a tracking beacon in it? That does sound ridiculous. However, I think the film could have gotten away with the conceit that the Company found Big Chap floating in space. At the very end of "Alien," Ripley does her monologue recapping the events of the past few days. We only hear the last few sentences of it, and in fact, it was probably a much longer statement that revealed she had ejected the alien into space. When she transmitted it back to Earth, the message probably also contained flight data from the Narcissus about its velocity and flight plan. The Company could have used that to reverse-extrapolate Big Chap's likely location in space. 6. [Shrugs] It would have been more believable if the Company had found Big Chap floating around in space dead. No cocoon, maybe little bits of debris around it but no big "Nostromo" sign. They removed its DNA in their lab and cultured it to create new aliens, which went amok and killed everyone as always. In "Alien Romulus," the protagonists would have fought with those aliens, making it unnecessary to have one of their crew get face-hugged, which led to another plot hole where the gestation period is now only 30 minutes or so and chestbursters can grow to the size of big men in a few hours so long as they go into a cocoon. Totally delete the cocoons from the movie.

[@mojoe6396]

Xenomorphs can cause so much damage. Ripley had to destroy an entire ship to attempt to get rid of it. Now this showing it survived and went on to do what it does best. More destruction.

[@lewis7515]

@@mojoe6396 Not following this: the only damage Ripley's alien caused was to burn a hole in a couple of decks. If it had killed everyone, that ship would only need some minor repairs and maybe a clean.

[@TheHorndOne]

The cocoon method also implies that the Queen in AvP could have survived, after it plunged into the underwater darkness beneath the Antarctic. So, maybe in a few hundred years, if humanity explores there at those 'bottomless' depths, they just may find....

[@pandaath]

I guess someone never told you AvP isn't canon.

[@CrackCatWantsPat]

​@@pandaathIf I want it to be canon then it is, simple as that

[@seandlax9]

It would have been crushed by the pressure at the sea bottom

[@TheHorndOne]

@@pandaath I know it isn't canon.

[@TheHorndOne]

@@seandlax9 Agreed. But the implication of the cocoon is entertaining, yes?

[@ozmozis6073]

It's a thing with plots, they just can't let things die; they kill off things that should live. The Xeno from Alien needed to die, as does the Queen. It's the dumbest plot device, giving them all these abilities, including insane growth from chestburster to full grown Xeno/newborn in minutes - even Vampires and zombies have their limits.

[@zorosavage2223]

Then they wouldn’t be the perfect organisms if they weren’t able to survive things like this

[@alltheflavors9673]

there's no limits for shitty writing. as Prometheus and covenant show.

[@StevenZissimos]

@@ozmozis6073 well... it eventually did die. The movie just established a defence mechanism for the Xenomorphs that hasn't been seen until now. But Xenomorphs can and still die. You're arguing with the wall dude.

[@ozmozis6073]

@@StevenZissimos Yeah. They do die lasted 45 years, from Alien 79 to Romulus, where that was as good as a plot change. Big chap was reanimated. Not holding my breath.

[@funkervogt47]

The growth rate of the alien in this movie was practically violating the laws of physics. To grow from a 5 lbs chestburster to a 200 lbs alien warrior, it would need to consume 195 lbs of matter, and that's assuming its cells are 100% efficient, which is impossible. Even 50% is probably the efficiency limit for ANY life form governed by organic chemistry. So where did the chestburster get the 390 lbs of extra matter from? We never see it eat anything. If it is somehow turning air into body mass, there's still a major problem since a cubic meter of air only weighs 3 lbs, and is overwhelmingly made up of nitrogen and oxygen, which lack the chemical properties to serve as the principal components of flesh or organs. And these problems are even worse for the alien-human hybrid at the end.

[@WhiteyMcHood9688]

Aliens is my favorite out of the series

[@JinKee]

0:45 the cocoon was in the Allen D Foster novelisation of Alien

[@joshuamarsella]

Reading this one now

[@kingsol4786]

That’s why he said never scene on FILM

[@donQpublic]

Big Chap survived because the plot required it and he needed the work. I blame his agent.

[@AdrianFahrenheitTepes]

They also killed Big Chap offscreen so what was the point again?

[@romanhorizon]

0:09 If you pause, you can see the Xenomorphs skull. Such a cool little spit second detail. I love this movie.

[@mak23997]

how is that cool?? It's a human skull that doesn't fit being inside that monstrous head,

[@TheMandalorianRedeemed]

Yeah I don’t see it buddy…

[@brycemack222]

@TheMandalorianRedeemed skill issue

[@TheSinjab]

I was wondering why it had a human skull

[@romanhorizon]

@@TheSinjab watch at a lore video. The fictional biology is fascinating to listen to.

[@equinsuocha8905]

How did the cocoon end up by Nostromo wreckage when Ripley and the Narcissus carried it away from the explosion?

[@RobinDale50]

shhhhh. you're not supposed to notice things like that and the fact that the refinery exploded in nuclear fashion in THREE stages. Would have vaporized everything.

[@CrackCatWantsPat]

​@@RobinDale50why would it have vaporized everything. We aren't given an explanation on that. We just saw a big boom and you made your conclusions from it

[@RobinDale50]

@@CrackCatWantsPat seriously? film is a visual medium. we saw 3 massive explosions. it it not illogical to conclude that.

[@alltheflavors9673]

stupid writing like prometheus and covenant

[@hellegennes]

@@CrackCatWantsPat It's supposed to be a nuclear explosion. Little Boy's fireball was 370 meters in diameter. The Nostromo was smaller than that. Everything within the fireball is vapourized.

[@Valehass]

Spoiler alert, it didn't. You don't survive being cooked alive by shuttle thrusters capable of propelling a ship through atmosphere which it would have to be capable of as the ship is streamlined for minimal air resistance.

[@AdrianFahrenheitTepes]

Rocket Exhaust is pretty hot, but nothing compared to how empty and vast outer space is when it comes to finding a cold alien body so small and insignificant, not giving off any transmissions. It would be rendered invisible by the light of stars alone.

[@archivalhorror]

Xenomorphs: Shrug off turbine exhaust blast. Can't handle flamethrower.

[@Tyluhzzz]

Xenomorphs have a strange anatomy including the use of melding their environment into their body when in the full growth stage. That’s why Xenomorphs have such a bio mechanical look, that could further explain why the Alien in the original didn’t incinerate but got hurt by the exhaust instead and the Aliens in the second movie were wiped out by the flamethrower? Just a theory I have when looking at the lore!

[@edwardelric603]

Shut up

[@garyfallows1123]

The only problem i found with this was that in Romulus it shows them finding the Alien among the Nostromo wreckage, first, the Alien wasn't near the wreckage as it was on the lifeboat with Ripley, second Ripley shot it with the Anchor line, then she burnt it as it tried to climb in through the exhaust port when she fired the engine

[@AdrianFahrenheitTepes]

The first point is more significant. Space is huge and open, and the Aliens lack a heat signature. So in a massive open area larger than multiple Solar Systems, you are so unlikely going to find a small alien body without a heat signature or signal transmission.

[@Rogerdodgerthat78]

Parker : That's bullshit. Ash : You still don't understand what you're dealing with, do you? The perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility.

[@omnibus01]

it survived and was able to be found in the void of space only to then be killed off screen which ruins ripley's victory from the first film...........great writing

[@CrackCatWantsPat]

Why does it ruin it

[@alltheflavors9673]

everything its a plot device they just can write.

[@alltheflavors9673]

@@CrackCatWantsPat it would be impossible to find a dark, non reflective minuscule cocoon randomly floating in space away from literally everything. its just like the black goo a plot hole for lazy incompetent writing.

[@CrackCatWantsPat]

@@alltheflavors9673 Seems perfectly possible for people that have broken physics and can travel at the speed of light

[@chrishateley5582]

​@@CrackCatWantsPatI know, right? Guy's acting like all the stuff we see in the original movies is perfectly feasible.

[@LunamPuer]

It's mega stupid, because the harpoon would have melted due to acidic blood and also, a single xenomorph can't produce enough hive slime to cocoon itself.

[@SpclOps20]

@LunamPuer - As someone else mentioned, the harpoon may have been coated with Teflon. 😁

[@italianrelic]

I agree.. it’s a dumb idea 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@deaksneaks]

I saw someone mention that the harpoon wouldn’t have melted given the blood would have frozen near instantly given the airlock was open. Though I suppose after the defrosting via not being in the vacuum of space anymore, that I can’t explain

[@thewillisman34620]

Xenos don’t have to breathe, and don’t really die naturally. Given the fact how long it was in space, there’s no reason to assume it couldn’t have encased itself, not for survival, but more or less to hibernate.

[@davidm4566]

Plus it got cooked by the ship's thrusters and then caught in a NUCLEAR blast. This is "Wolverine can survive being obliterated down to 1 cell and fully recover"-level of ridiculousness.

[@THDSCornwall]

I guess that harpoon gun is acid proof huh

[@grey1735]

The Alien franchise... Is going to milk the public for as long as it can, via these movies.

[@unclejovan1913]

I love how I can watch videos like these and I always get a new layer of perspective to the already interesting story of Ridley Scott’s Alien movies.

[@Renoroc]

Yeah but in Alien it got incinerated in the engine burst. This cocooning backsplanation is somewhat ridiculous.

[@michaelnguyen9348]

In alien 3 drone died from being heated to hunderds of degrees only after being cooled Down And thermal change, i dont see it that too far fetched

[@averageguy9549]

You can clearly see though the body was intact. So it survived. Cope harder

[@alltheflavors9673]

@@michaelnguyen9348 so it got hot then cold then boom anyway its just a dark cocoon floating away randomly in space.

[@alltheflavors9673]

@@averageguy9549 intact? what about the harpoon and the massive wound? and drifting away in deep space without a beacon plz.

[@averageguy9549]

@@alltheflavors9673 xenos can take heavy amounts of damage without dying. They are the perfect organism. It's just like Ripley being found 80 years later in deep space by pure luck. It's unfortunate big chap was found, but he knew hoe to endure and survive. So again, cope harder

[@vatoloco1528]

Oh boy, can't wait for this Pitch Meeting. "Wait, didn't Ripley blow that particular alien into space?" "Yes, but we need this new movie to happen, so I gave it a new ability. "

[@alltheflavors9673]

exactly, promedumb and covendumber are case studies for the "so the movie can happen" trope.

[@mantorok09]

Y’all act like every single comic book superhero isn’t treated literally exactly the same way any time a new writer joins the team. “Wait I thought this iconic hero died.” “Nah he survived…because…reasons.” “Ok so the guy we’ve all known as just being super strong, well he also can fly now, oh and has mild telepathy powers, because I think that’s cool.” Quit being a sad hater and just let the fans enjoy their pandering fanfics.

[@bri55118]

The main problem with the cocoon is where it got the materials? People had a confusing idea for its growth from chest buster to adult, but that could be expanded by it getting into the food stores ( provided it eats things similar to us). It was shown with the same size from alien, but the cocoon had at least Dubble the material.

[@CrackCatWantsPat]

I think it just cocooned on to a piece of debris

[@Anonymouscreature33]

Xenos do not get their nourishment from other animals or plant matter. They absorb materials from their environment.

[@alltheflavors9673]

"so the movie can happen" screen rant pitch meetings

[@alltheflavors9673]

@@CrackCatWantsPat debris from where? did you even saw the Alien movie?

[@garnettbrown]

Let me try to understand. Big chap never was incinerated by the afterburners from the space shuttle?

[@Zacynoodles]

No, im pretty sure he was just pushed away. There didn't seem to be any damage on him in Alien

[@bri55118]

The shuttle engine blasted it away. I believe in the novel. It exploded afterward due to the space environment changes. In any case, it was trown into space and cocoon or not, physics dictates it wouldn't be anywhere near the detention area if any ship can to investigate.

[@davidm4566]

Or the nuclear blast from the detonation of the ship, apparently...

[@jareddrogose1470]

"If we're not outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space"

[@alltheflavors9673]

they retcon anything they cant write around so they rektcon everything.

[@Cliff132NJ]

What I'd like to know is how did the original Xenomorph survive the blast from the Narcissus engine in Alien? Where do these creatures come from? Krypton? Gallifrey?

[@thetombuck]

The plotholium galaxy

[@allangoncalves1453]

😂​@@thetombuck

[@deemingo8951]

They come from hell cliff, hell.

[@deemingo8951]

@@Cliff132NJ likely beings of the 4th hole

[@jktechwriter]

Big Chap was SO FAR from the Nostromo explosion, how did it find its way back to the wreckage? And why was there any wreckage left? This was a nuclear level explosion in space, and certainly no piece large enough to have the ship name on would have been left over.

[@djmouseshadow4735]

@@jktechwriter Actually the force of being blown out of the engine would be enough to eventually make it's way back to the debris of Nostromo in the vacuum of space.

[@jktechwriter]

@@djmouseshadow4735 A big stretch, but yeah... okay. Just happens to be in the debris? In space, if it had that kind of velocity (not acceleration) from being blow out of the engine, it would have continued moving after hitting debris and scattered it even more. But it's fiction, so yeah.

[@EoinLynch-v1y]

Why didn’t WY simply go to LV 426 where they had sent the Nostromo? Easier than looking for a small dark object in space. It’s highly unlikely the cocooned alien would be beside large chunks of wreckage from the Nostromo. Given that the Nostromo was vaporized. And also the alien would have drifted for 10 years at some percentage of the speed of the Narcissus when it was ejected. How is the harpoon bolt still inside the alien after 10 years including as it rampages about on the Romulus? More BS and plot holes from 20th CF/Disney. They’ve been taking the audience for mugs ever since Alien 3.

[@aidanclarke6106]

"Why didn’t WY simply go to LV 426" - Morality? No, I'm just kidding 😂🤣

[@melvinch]

This movie gives me that "Somehow Palpatine returns" vibe. 😆

[@thetombuck]

Somehow, Big Chap returned

[@NJTDover]

Memo to Yautja Prime: Send over some seasoned Predators 😅

[@0nan-Son-of-Juda-Brother-of-Er]

"Kane's Son" Not "Big Chap". Science 0fficer Ash named it Kane's Son in the first Alien movie

[@bunbun1741]

It's the Big Chap to more, not least the cast and crew of Alien.

[@CelestialLight777]

That I'm Fine T-Shirt looks Pretty Badass I can't lie

[@Mega-Tales]

thanks I designed it way back in 2018, still the top seller

[@JoFa876]

Did they forget the part where it went in the engines and got blasted apart?

[@AdrianFahrenheitTepes]

Or it just drifted in open space with no thermal signature?

[@Please_allow_me]

There are some questions for sure but the engines didn't blast it apart. It causes injury no doubt, but the aliens body was fully intact

[@AdrianFahrenheitTepes]

@@Please_allow_me They killed him offscreen. Lame

[@AdrianFahrenheitTepes]

@@Please_allow_me Finding a tiny alien with no thermal signature in a spherical zone light years wide is impossible.

[@Please_allow_me]

@@AdrianFahrenheitTepes Mate I don't know why you keep replying to me, My reply was in the response to the OP regarding the Alien getting caught by the engine blast

[@KaosNova2]

It’s honestly lazy writing. There’s multiple ways that are less stupid. That doesn’t even go into other contradictions of older Alien movies that Romulus also creates. The Alien wasn’t in the Nostromo. The alien was thrown out the back of the shuttle craft by Ripley, and then took rocket exhaust to the face. And that’s not even going into how you saw the Nostromo get vaporized when it blew up in Alien. If they really figured out all those special Alien serums, then there’s really no reason for Aliens or any other movies after Alien to exist. They exist because they didn’t find any Xenomorph after Alien. And even if the Alien survived the grappling hook to the chest and rocket exhaust to the face, which is hotter than the flamethrower napalm which killed Xenomorphs and eggs in Aliens BTW, good luck finding an Alien body with no heat signature in open space far from any planet. It’s less stupid to say that the derelict vessel from Alien survived along with eggs when Hadley’s Hope exploded from the fusion cores going critical, due to the great distance between the crashed derelict and the colony buildings, or just going the Prometheus and Alien Covenant route where there are Aliens on other planets out there? It gets rediculous regardless of how you cut it.

[@thetombuck]

Exactly. WY knew where LV426 was . Wouldn't it be easier to search a planet than trillions of miles of space? I can't believe how bad the writing is in Romulus

[@shengyi1701]

Weyland scientist boasting, “This creature is the ultimate power in the universe! I suggest we use it.” And then we all now who will reply when that scientist criticises someone’s sad devotion to an ancient religion…

[@phillipgouthier5525]

The Sulaco was relatively close to LV-426 when the Queen was jettisoned out the airlock. More than likely, she was caught in the planet's gravity well and burned on reentry.

[@AdrianFahrenheitTepes]

Or she went splat slamming into the ground at high speed

[@GenMaster]

When I saw that scene with the cocoon I thought "that's bollocks, is there anything the Xenomorph can't do..?" I get it, it's science fiction, but there are too many things about its physiology that are outrageously outlandish.

[@anno.1900]

Thats basically the point of it, its a perfect organism, thats why it seems so outlandish.

[@GenMaster]

@@anno.1900 perfect my azz One Pulse Rifle and it's a goner.

[@anno.1900]

@@GenMaster perfect doesnt mean indestructable, it really isnt that deep… nor is it hard to understand…

[@starcitizen6651]

Soon it will be magical so they can keep making crappy movies. I really can't stand any Alien movie after Alien 3 and even then the original Alien is the only great one. Gotta do mental gymnastics to tell yourself that it sitting in space building a cocoon isn't dumb....It has that power so they could shoehorn stuff from the first movie into the latest pile of crap.

[@GenMaster]

@@anno.1900 It depends on one's point of view, Mr. Xenomorph lover.

[@franciscoestrada6624]

I liked Isabela Merced in Alien Romulus

[@MaDFroG88]

3:51 AvP queen might be alive too 😮

[@TedS.]

That's exactly what I was wondering as well 🤔

[@hunainahmed2522]

Nah she wont be..because she was dragged under the ocean and the deeper she went more pressure of water applied on her which eventually ended her being exploded just like the submersible

[@bootman_89]

The cocoon was formed inside the scraps of mineral ore that was the Nostromo’s payload

[@thetombuck]

That ore would've been disintegrated and travelling tens of thousands of mph through space in all directions

[@bootman_89]

@ oh yeah? In the vacuum of space? Where there’s no gravity….

[@bootman_89]

@ if you saw Romulus they literally showed pieces of the wreckage of the Nostromo which is where they pulled the Big chap out of

[@thetombuck]

@@bootman_89 I think you need to learn some basic physics. That debris would be accelerated outwards by the explosion at thousands of mph. With no air and no friction, it would just keep travelling forever till it hits something or gets caught by the gravity of a much larger object like a planet. The debris field would be trillions of miles wide.

[@bootman_89]

@ I think you need to watch the movie. That’s what my comment was based on.

[@ghostofwolfmoonmani3877]

Conservation of mass need not apply, that cocoon has more mass then the xenomorph, I wish they had just made it do what tardigrades do and expelled all the liquid in it body, way more believable.

[@chrishateley5582]

I didn't know tardigrades did that. You're right, that would've made more sense, but in all fairness these creatures have been shown since the first movie to go from being the size of a rattlesnake to bigger than a human within hours without having to eat anything, so being able to defy the laws of physics and produce mass out of nothing is something we've always had to accept.

[@mrpucklepops4447]

I reckon it started on its feet first when cocooning itself 😂

[@trk327]

Wait... that means the Queen from Aliens isn't dead!😮

[@jay1hi547]

She's out there somewhere.... PISSED OFF!!!!!

[@TheDannyLore]

it fell from orbit though

[@gospyro]

Romulus was like watching a video game with video game logic and video game effects. Not to mention the body of the xenomorph would not have been anywhere near the wreckage.

[@HaohmaruHL]

Bto had time to reflect on his actions in his cacoon while drifting in space but eventually has learned nothing.

[@AdrianFahrenheitTepes]

He wasn’t good enough to not die offscreen

[@Sir_Coffee_first_of_his_bean]

4:52 ist that the harpoon ripley shot on it?

[@mj6258]

He has a funny habit of shedding his cells and replacing them with polarized silicon which gives him prolonged resistance to adverse environmental conditions. Ash - science officer - Nostromo.

[@alltheflavors9673]

so dumb, even if it filters the faint light it's going to do absolutely nothing to avoid the plot hole to be cooked by cosmic radiation. the franchise keeps getting dumber and dumber. this is what happens when grifters who cant write science fiction hijack the IP.

[@FOXCYBORGNINJA]

@@mj6258 kzbin.info/www/bejne/emGViqiXZ6iGb5Isi=r3qkwcsZCduB7TK9&t=26

[@lewis7515]

@@mj6258 Yeah? How does he manage to shed multiple times his own volume? Garbage.

[@johnprotagonist7296]

​@@lewis7515that's how shedding works. Just on a way slower scale in nature.

[@lewis7515]

@@johnprotagonist7296 No, it isn't. To shed, is to literally shed an outer surface. The resources that created that surface have to be replaced, somehow - and it would be a tiny fraction of bodyweight. What's been suggested here is a cocoon - but it isn't really that: and the same reality would apply, anyway - it would normally represent an outer surface that amounts to a tiny fraction of the creatures bodyweight. What this thing has supposed to have done here is create a whole asteroid to bury itself in. It's ridiculous. Where did all the raw material for a huge asteroid come from? Out of that bony little xenomorph?... On top of it, a cocoon is supposed to be a protection, not a coffin - how is that xenomorph actually supposed to break out of that giant rock? They had to cut it with a space laser. How is the creature even supposed to sense when it may be a good time to break out, even if it could break out? It buried itself, thickly, in a giant rock - how is it supposed to interpret the outside world?.... The story is just so bad.

[@kingpatriot]

It's ash no it's rook! No it's cashgrab 😂😂😂😂

[@mezmerized4lifejay654]

The Queen from Aliens is alive as well then

[@maxnum1sgameclub263]

Nah… alien 2 ended with a explosion with the strenght of several nukes. Even a queen will not survive that. Maybe higher classes of xeno’s have a chance but the queen is actaully a mid powered xeno if you look at the entire evolution line.

[@turbon5449]

Just seen Romulus yesterday!!! Good movie, it’s cool how they tied the first film to the new one.. makes me think about the Queen alien that ripley blasted into space on the second movie!!😮😮😮

[@FOXCYBORGNINJA]

@@turbon5449 or the queen stuck at the bottom of the Antarctic in AVP 1.

[@turbon5449]

@@FOXCYBORGNINJA yea I know it got sent to the bottom of the ocean on AVP…But in Aliens, ripley blasted the Queen out the airlock, it’s the scene when ripley is fighting the Queen with the yellow Loader suit!!

[@wesleyhalpern184]

The idea that it could survive 20 minutes let alone 20 years in space is a bit ridiculous but they have to keep the franchise going and adding to it somehow

[@alltheflavors9673]

its beyond dumb.

[@CrackCatWantsPat]

The fact that they can travel at the speed of light is even less possible. Besides, there are some actual microorganisms that are real and can survive in space

[@EstrellaMatutina666]

Ignorant.

[@TheAdminstartor]

Their aliens, that alone should already give you the idea.

[@Filthy_Larry]

@@CrackCatWantsPatyes but a xeno ain’t one. A xeno is not a microorganism. It’s bigger than a human. They die like we do. A human in space without a suit lasts up to 3 minutes. Xenos probably 10 minutes just like earth based exoskeleton creatures like spiders or crabs. After ten minutes they dead and not even coming back as zombies.

[@kingpatriot]

Cocoon equals cashgrab

[@7783DEATH]

Theres something i really hate about bringing back big chap just to have him die lamely offscreen. Thanks fede

[@MrJayJoker]

I never knew this and I watched this movie in theaters. I just simply watched and enjoyed.

[@Piece-O-Pie]

This upload was more interesting than Alien: Romulus itself.

[@blueplanetoff]

Bro must waited 45 year for this film 😂.

[@jefft786]

What we have here is a slasherfication of the Alien idea. Same plot, different victims. Alien and Aliens were unique the rest that followed were just retreads. As far as I'm concerned all movies after Aliens is Riply having bad dreams in hysperspace.

[@ProgrammedForDamage]

"Looks like some kind of secretive resin." "Yeah; but secreted from what?"

[@hammerheadms]

In principle, the new additions to the xenomorph life cycle are interesting and decently thought out. However, I don't like the way the cocoon in the opening was found. What was it doing in the wreckage of the Nostromo? Why was the Nostromo wreckage even that recognizable in the first place? Why even go looking for the Big Chap at all when Wayland Yutani already knows that fresh specimens can be found on LV-426 without having to look in the vastness of space for one that might not even be retrievable? On the balance I liked the movie, but it was not well thought out, plotwise. I feel like Fede Alvarez put a lot of effort into the story concepts, cinematography, and effects (save for the terrible deep fake of Ian Holm), but didn't put any thought into where verisimilitude could be broken introducing these new story concepts.

[@KaosNova2]

The shuttle left the Nostromo around because the Nostromo was vaporized by a nuclear self-destruct. Ripley barely escapes in the shuttle from the sheer power of the self-destruct.

[@aidanclarke6106]

"Why even go looking for the Big Chap at all when Wayland Yutani already knows that fresh specimens can be found on LV-426" - That's a very good point !

[@hammerheadms]

@@aidanclarke6106 to be clear, I am not opposed to the idea that Big Chap was found out there. Had they written it cleverly enough, I could potentially see how, by sheer blind happenstance, that Big Chap could have been found, or hitched a ride after floating into a navigable space lane. Perhaps Wayland Yutani sent a team of investigators to find the Nostromo's remains? The disappointing part about what we saw is that they go on a mission for the express purpose of finding Big Chap, itself, without considering the simpler option. It also is disappointing that we get glimpses of Big Chap's remains, but we don't see the obvious story in between. I do like the idea of finding out wether it actually survived the vacuum of space after being shot through with a grappling hook, but the execution of it Romulus was a cheap plot to get fans to tune in. Yet more useless fan service and member berries that did nothing to serve the plot. It was almost as if Fede Alvarez and his writing staff were insecure in their ability to come up with a story O.G. fans would love. It's really a shame because I think they were onto something that had outstanding potential.

[@erikaenander5374]

So this isn’t a sequel to “Cocoon?” And the aliens that made the swimming pool a Fountain of Youth were actually xenomorphs? It would explain old Uncle Willy. 👀

[@technewsfortechnoobs]

Personally, I loved how in the follow-up to the Alien vs. Predator comic series addressed the Xenomorphs. When Machiko Noguchi was on the Predators ship on their way to hunt a Queen. Basically said that the xenomorphs were the ultimate adapters in the universe, and that "if the air was sand, they would find a way to breathe it."

[@AdrianFahrenheitTepes]

Doesn’t mean it isn’t stupid writing. The Alien even if it’s alive, it’s cold blooded and drifting in open space with no thermal signature.

[@Filthy_Larry]

And no air.

[@amethyst7084]

I don't understand how a creature can cocoon itself in the vacuum of space. Where does the cocoon come / develop from? The xenomorph's body? Hard to concieve...

[@AdrianFahrenheitTepes]

You don’t get material in a vacuum

[@ADarkHaze]

saliva, regular bodily secretions???

[@thetombuck]

​@@ADarkHazeif I put you in an empty room and told you to make 3x your bodyweight in saliva how much could you make? Can't pull matter from nowhere

[@danemaui8259]

" How the alien survived"? It's called really shitty writing.

[@riserjenkins811]

Ridley went above and beyond to avoid having eggs and a queen. Entire movie was a clusterfck.

[@jackwei22]

Another thing Ridley Scott created Promethus and Alien as he produced this film "Romulus" so he could change the lore regarding this.

[@henrybenson28]

And that’s why they call the xenomorph the ultimate lifeform

[@shengyi1701]

It can still be killed. Perfect in almost every single way but insignificant next to the power of the force. So Weyland shouldn’t be too proud of this biological terror they’ve constructed.

[@alltheflavors9673]

that someow keeps dying and failing to colonize the galaxy.

[@GoldGollum]

I think you're mistaken with Shadow The Hedgehog different franchise "mate"... The Xenomorph is the "Perfect organism"...

[@TheAdminstartor]

@@alltheflavors9673keep dying is part of life, everyone dies, nothing knew, Xenomorph’s die for a good tho and get things accomplished. Funny how xenomorphs overran earth in the comics lol

[@michaelbarnes1974]

I like the idea of cocooning. It makes a lot since on how they grow so big so fast and what is all that resin they put all over their nests.

[@jasonthorpe7087]

We know that heat kills them. I think the Queen from Aliens probably got burned up on re-entry to LV-426. But who knows? She is the queen..

[@l.pricetag.5207]

Correct me if I'm wrong but we never actually see them die from heat, they just dislike fire.

[@KaosNova2]

@@l.pricetag.5207The eggs exploded in Aliens

[@l.pricetag.5207]

@@BernieCantswim well, yeah, but that was a baby chestburster. Adult Xenomorphs have more armour.

[@aidanclarke6106]

@@l.pricetag.5207 - We don't even know if they dislike fire. That was just an assumption from Ash in Alien. The discussion was about how the alien would react to a change in temperature.

[@MrMrt187]

What I’d like to know is how come the pulse rifles in Romulus had 300 rounds in the magazine, yet the magazines in the aliens pulse rifles only had 30 or 40 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@alltheflavors9673]

Riddley "So the movie can happen" Scott.

[@FOXCYBORGNINJA]

@@MrMrt187 Even if it is a weapon that has a caseless and is pulse action, it shouldn't look like the Armat Battlefield Systems “M41A Pulse Rifle” because the M41A Pulse Rifle wasn't adopted till 2171 where's Romulus takes place in 2142.

[@johnnypatterson7512]

I have a problem with there being any wreckage at all.

[@AdrianFahrenheitTepes]

Based on how explosions and physics in space works, any debris would rapidly spread apart in all directions.

[@KruceroKory]

I loved how they tied Alien to Romulus.. I hated that they didn't use Big Chap in the film and failed to show him wreaking havoc. He should have returned as the sole threat with a ton of eggmorphing and cocooning.. all those things everyone argues about and expected to see. I felt that the film should have supported what Ash said in Alien when asked how to kill it. You can't, but you do have my sympathies.

[@godinacape]

Alien Romulus Prequel comic is coming this October

[@alltheflavors9673]

the only reason they can't it's because Weyland set them up as bait with no weapons or back up

[@Maves916]

It should have been the queen from aliens. Chap had a hole blow in its chest and zero g and a vacuum don’t give a shit if you’re human or alien it’s sucking your insides out

[@KaosNova2]

It got the extra hot rocket in the face when it tried to go up the exhaust chamber of the rocket

[@blueplanetoff]

But if they can create safe cocon that means the qeen from aliens survived toom

[@Old_Sport_2016]

I love how we all give the xenomorphs names like: Big Chap (The OG Xenomorph from Alien) Grid (The iconic one from Aliens vs Predators) Chet (The Predalien in Requim)

[@cancel.lgbtq.6892]

Make no sense when Alien can just cocoon itself in space .... How convenience for the movie plot.

[@lukenydam3772]

The screenwriter needed him too. Super easy barely an inconvenience.

[@danielpauley9113]

Bringing the alien back to life is TIGHT

[@TheRah1980]

I definitely enjoyed this movie and how it connects with everything. My only thing is, we still need the conclusion of the prequels. David’s story isn’t over and we need to know how the engineer ship ended up on LV426.

[@CJH-f8o]

How did the grappling hook not melt in Big Chap?

[@lfyoung]

Another interesting thing about this ability that most people haven’t thought of is the queen from AvP1 that fell into the ocean can still be alive at the bottom of the ocean in a cocoon.

[@Khultan]

Sorry, the alien had reached it's life cycle expiration. 1979.

[@AltRightMustDie]

It did because YOU say so??? Who are you???

[@Khultan]

@@AltRightMustDie You just really aren't familiar with Dan O' Bannon and Ronald Shussett.

[@AltRightMustDie]

@@Khultan They don't call the shots during production, short bus gus.

[@Khultan]

@@AltRightMustDie You really are paper thin pulling that out. I'll send you what was said about this 1979 production with regards to the organism.

[@lukasrapouch9920]

I believe the Queen did not survive actually. Even if she could cocoon herself, she was in gravity well of LV-426. Given the acceleration she got from artifical gravity of Sulaco, she probably uncontrolably entered (presumably) still thick atmosphere of planetoid instead of became satelite in orbit and crashlanded with force enough to either shatter her to pieces or be evaporated by heat from the impact or by friction in fall. Sad end of royalty :-). I love Romulus but it still evade me when WY was able to track something they could not know still exist (in any form) in depths of interstellar space, how so they could not discover the planetoid itself with thousands of eggs there. To find wreckage of Nostromo in such big place as the cosmos is you had to know at very least the location from which she departed, without it not even blind luck should help. Objects in space are still in motion, 20 years of drifting... anyway only thing I really object in the movie which is by me fourth best Alien franchise addon after first three original movies.

[@Fridaey13txhOktober]

Not enough speed.

[@stefanobaxx7274]

Non era più facile prelevare uova dalla nave sul planetoide ?

[@MrAlexEart]

Big Chap survived because the badly written script wanted it that way 😅

[@gillianessien7417]

Me calling Predator, “ Hey, bro. Can use a little help up here…”

[@jeffreysmith694]

Just stop trying to explain plot holes in a dumb movie. It made a lot of money from the mouth breathers who like member berries and no originality and story. Can't imagine the levels of stupidity the next midquel will bring. I'll never know cause I'm done with this silly series. This crap makes Covenant look good.

[@normanbates7373]

The cocoon thing is bs... How fast should it built up out of itself? Is it Pokémon? It was even impaled by hook/wounded.. Even in the logic of alien universe Vacuum of space should have finished it offscreen

[@KaosNova2]

It got hot rocket exhaust too

[@N.E.U.R.O]

Thanks for this cause I was like 5 mins late for the movie and missed the entire intro lol

[@chrishateley5582]

You're one of THOSE people, huh?

[@pauljordan0203]

if you pause it at 0:08, you can see that Xenomorph's do have eyes.

[@jackfisk2840]

Old big chaps "cocoon' must've been the absolute shizz to withstand a nuclear infused shuttle engine blast at full throttle... but hey, Alien an' stuff huh?! 😐

[@jotr.9786]

but then they killed them with flame throwers ...

[@davidm4566]

@@jotr.9786BAM! This! Thank you. Immune to spaceship thrusters and nuclear blasts, but vulnerable to flamethrowers.

[@RobinDale50]

Actually his survival is more believable than any fragment of the Nostromo surviving, let alone being anywhere in the vacinity of Big Chap.

[@alltheflavors9673]

more like Scott's abysmally pedantic writing.

[@alltheflavors9673]

@@davidm4566 just as good as the moronic black "I'll do whatever your incompetent writing needs" goo.

[@sourabhkarmakar8040]

That means the one in the Planet 4 survived as well when Daniels pushed it into the planet.