I was really disappointed we didn't get a true exploration of the Engineer's planet and history.
@fjuraa Жыл бұрын
we didnt get pretty much anything
@StefanBlagojevic Жыл бұрын
@jyesucevitz Seconded. 👍👍
@DolphLundgrensDolphinDungeon Жыл бұрын
Yeah and wtf was with the engineer people in Covenant. Shaw was going to the engineer homeworld at the end of Prometheus. That's what we wanted to see. Sure, it would be predictable, but that's what everyone wanted. The series was meant to explore the engineers more than the aliens, but they just disappear and it goes back to aliens.
@StefanBlagojevic Жыл бұрын
@@DolphLundgrensDolphinDungeon Yes, it felt like a new frontier getting explored to be honest, not some Xenomorph bull. Sadly we got Covenant crap -_- instead of Prometheus: Paradise Lost.
@RetroVideoGamer23 Жыл бұрын
It was the people who was an alien horror film, they got upset and whined like babies about prometheus so they had to appease them in the second film
@Urza26 Жыл бұрын
I still cannot get over how they were so cavalier with the alien cobra thing. Even on Earth, you don't try play with a cobra.
@derekhinger13439 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 This, 1000x this! There are SOOO many moments like that. All theyd have had to do is go in, explore, keep their helmets TF-on/not touch anything and be out free. But naturally being human and curious is what got them. Such a long string of dim-wittedly bad decisions 😝
@AnArChRiStxseditio7 ай бұрын
The lack of quarantine protocols ruined both movies multiple times. Granted it would have been boring to include them but in real situations there is zero chance of removing helmets, playing with aliens, ignoring safety and contamination issues, etc
@Urza267 ай бұрын
@@AnArChRiStxseditioThey even showed these two being scared of aliens in the beginning and antagonistic towards each other. Then suddenly they started being best buddies and playing with an alien cobra like it's a little puppy. You need at least an entire movie to show that kind of character arc. Scenes like this makes me question not just the movie, but also myself. And as you said, there could be contamination. There might not even be any huge xenomorphs, but microbes and spores would kill a human even here on earth.
@huntressmma18226 ай бұрын
Guess they wanted to save that for Covenant😂
@Skitdora20106 ай бұрын
@@Urza26 Why would you question yourself? You are right about contamination protocols and building up characters who act in character. Script and story writers are supposed to do research. Perhaps we are to think there was them running out of oxygen making them have to take off their helmets and risk the air and maybe spores breathed in altering their behavior and making them act drunk or lure them to aliens- like toxoplasma gondii in mice.
@chrishateley5582 Жыл бұрын
Simply leaving in that one scene where David and Weyland have a full blown conversation with the engineer would have fixed so many of this movie's problems. :(
@SvenTviking Жыл бұрын
Still doesn’t explain why they picked too completely unsuitable crewmen in the Geographer (who got lost) and the Xenobiologist who got scared of 3,000 yr old dead Alien head, but not scared of an alien vagina faced snake in a full threat pose. It doesn’t explain why they ignored any quarantine protocols that were such a bug part of Alien and immediately took their suit helmets off.
@StCreed Жыл бұрын
@@SvenTviking Yep. It's like they dragged them off the street for this expedition. Insanely stupid. And then there's David. Brrr... At least they gave us a new meme: the Prometheus School of Running Away.
@francischambless5919 Жыл бұрын
I don't agree. Prometheus could have been good but 2 scenes just made it unforgivably bad. The pathetic frightened bearded jackass with attitude who threw a tantrum and then got himself killed with the other moron who poked a creature he knew nothing about after seeing a dead alien humanoid.... yeah, that was pretty dumb and those two characters were so awful and unlikeable.... Anyway, that and the black goo inconsistencies that was so poorly written that it's effect was whatever it needed to be to create the next eye candy.... Sorry, the movie was just utter garbage and an embarrassment.
@Oldsmobile69 Жыл бұрын
Such a shitty movie and yet with this content at least it would have made some sense.
@RottenMuLoT Жыл бұрын
I'm not so sure. Yes the movie would have been MUCH better but I would not understand why we would need a sequel like the one we got with Alien Covenant - aka that fascination to visit the engineer's world.
@narotomo3 ай бұрын
Prometheus could've been a masterpiece
@Captainpaulbtyhtr2 ай бұрын
It can be reassembled any rereleased !
@carlosdeleon1052 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely baffling the editing choices that were made for the final cut. Practically every point you made about the deleted material and how they would have enhanced our understanding of various scenes is spot on!
@last7509 Жыл бұрын
studios always depriving us with their bureaucratic interference
@VVeremoose Жыл бұрын
Sometimes, not understanding is better.
@boboboy8189 Жыл бұрын
They should released 2 version. One is director's cut and another is studios cut.
@holdmusic_ Жыл бұрын
The storytelling is awful, too. There must've been a lot of interference. The characters are unlikeable, every single one of them makes terrible decisions. Rather than feeling like real people, they feel like pastiches or caricatures. The idiosyncratically grounded feeling of the Alien universe was somehow lost completely. It was annoying to say the least.
@muskokamike127 Жыл бұрын
@@VVeremoose I don't mind movies that leave you surmising but promethius was just a dog's breakfast of BS. I hate directors who tried to be "creative" by leaving out key parts of the story line. The best example is the ending for the Sopranos. David Chase explained that since the entire series was shot through tony's eyes, the black out ending fit. The problem? The series was NEVER shot first person through tony's eyes. In fact, much of the series was shot 3rd person showing all the other character's lives so how can that be "through tony's eyes" if he wasn't there?
@denizsi Жыл бұрын
I swear I remember I watched Shaw say "it's not a map, it's an invitation" in the theatre.
@Inception13387 ай бұрын
It's quantum physics: it happened differently to you because perspective.
@Jojobeanz37 ай бұрын
She did say it . If you watch the movie again you’ll see it. She definitely said it .
@bubbanstix25367 ай бұрын
theatre versions sometimes are different from TV, DVD? Bluray's etc... it's weird.
@RayneClouds7 ай бұрын
I saw this in theaters in 2012 and Shaw definitely says that line. Even in my copy of the movie, that scene is still there!
@mantia396 ай бұрын
She did say it. It's on my copy.
@illuminatedtiger Жыл бұрын
I worked for one of the VFX companies on Prometheus and remember the alternate Fifield mutations sequence well - it was actually referred to as "Fifield Lives" internally and along with the opening engineers sequence I view it as some of our best work on the show. Was disappointed to not see it included in the theatrical cut but am happy it at least got to see the light of day for others to enjoy!
@melissanoyb Жыл бұрын
Wow! Great work you did. So sorry they cut out your best stuff.
@-Zevin- Жыл бұрын
Got to say the VFX holds up all these years later as suburb work, nice job. There is allot of films today that don't look nearly as good.
@ROVA00 Жыл бұрын
So what was that mutation supposed to be? Why did he turn into a weird big forehead monster ?
@illuminatedtiger Жыл бұрын
@@ROVA00 you'll have to ask Ridley Scott
@-Zevin- Жыл бұрын
@@ROVA00 To be fair, guy did the VFX he didn't write it. That's more a question for the script writer.
@msamberk Жыл бұрын
Dude the Engineers are the most important thing the original space jockey has left me pondering for decades and the hope to finally understand them had me so excited and turned into a even bigger tease...this movie and it's sequel were capable of such great things. They had actors, the director, the budget, man it could of been great, all the fans wanted was origin story, every one has seen every type of xenomorph again and again, it's played out bring us to something more substantial
@zen4ever37 ай бұрын
I also find the whole idea that the engineers went extinct to be stupid and I don’t understand why anyone even believes that theory. Why would a 100 million plus year old race of biological technology just go away just like that? Well the answer is simple: they didn’t go extinct and are still thriving out in the universe.
@juanmikel75073 ай бұрын
@@zen4ever3Yeah, I read somewhere that the Colony David annihilated in Covenant was another creation of the engineers not the engineers themselves. They didn’t even look alike
@chewy99.3 ай бұрын
@@zen4ever3Actually apparently their civilization is at least 3 billion years old cause that’s when the sacrifice scene takes place
@alexandrabe7924 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, they deleted the most important scenes. I have no idea what they were thinking. A movie about the engineers and their god and planet would be awesome!
@dfo990 Жыл бұрын
They don't delete the most stupid way to die perhaps even in cinema, lol...
@realperx11028 ай бұрын
I like it the way it is, the engineers are just a part of the story, the main character has always been the xenomorphs etc.. I think if we got too deep into the background of the engineers it might have spoiled it. Better to leave a bit of mistery. And ultimatly everything we are being shown is to explain the history of the "alien" the story was never about the engineers.
@w0lm7b975 ай бұрын
@@realperx1102 nuh uh
@foogentog3 ай бұрын
They said it was because they were worried about outrage about religious themes.. so they were catering to the woke mob
@susanengel-ix8bl3 ай бұрын
That would be awesome, we need a back story.
@sonatine32664 ай бұрын
Scott should have produced an Directors Cut. The movies got many, many fans. It's cold and detailed atmosphere is insanely awesome and the fact they built so many scenes by hand and didn't use a lot of greenscreens is so much better. A DC with many deleted scenes would have been awesome.
@gingerandbroke1402 Жыл бұрын
There use to be a fan made edit of Prometheus on Pirate Bay were someone inserted all the deleted scenes like its a directors cut. It was really good.
@mrrictus Жыл бұрын
I downloaded a copy of that, but sadly lost it.
@1428elm Жыл бұрын
Its not there anymore?
@brendonmcgirr5448 Жыл бұрын
I still have it. I'll never delete it.
@Abrakadabro666 Жыл бұрын
@@brendonmcgirr5448I've got it too. Great film
@FascinatingMaterial Жыл бұрын
@@brendonmcgirr5448i need that from you, how can i get it, hit me up i pay for it direct download
@MiguelVillasenor-c4m3 ай бұрын
I might be crazy but I really liked the Prometheus movie.
@paulb19512 ай бұрын
Yeah the negativity around it was way over blown.
@MaisyMimi2 ай бұрын
I like it as it’s own stand alone movie. I hated it at first but I can watch it and rewatch it and it’s still fun. Covenant I never watched again!
@aurelmarton52692 ай бұрын
Me too. I was very upset as I've learned that they won't continue it.
@MiSambra2 ай бұрын
I liked it too. I think it could have been even better if more time was spent on character development like in Alien.
@moloko9122 ай бұрын
Question : do you like the movie for what it is or what it could be. For me it is the former and it is a mess
@Jacobe234 ай бұрын
The first half of Prometheus is one of my favourite starts to a film ever.... I hated how much they left out! They traded great story and backstory for shock and awe scenes!
@Icedbirdman3 ай бұрын
So…it was a better movie.
@ttyngordon2 ай бұрын
Yep. It would have made the movie better
@ryebread7224 Жыл бұрын
I find it ironic that much of Alien 1979’s success came from Ridley making the right decisions. Well other than cutting the egg morphing scene, which might have been the studio’s decision. Either way, Prometheus would have been much better if Ridley didn’t make all of the changes this go around. The story would have made a lot more sense and would have added more depth to the characters.
@arvinjay336 Жыл бұрын
You know its possible its not just the director, I heard that after that western Heaven's Gate flopped the control of production was relegated to producers instead of the director... but...unless your name is James Cameron 😂
@ryebread7224 Жыл бұрын
@@arvinjay336 Definitely! Heaven's Gate is a crazy story...
@Mentis-de Жыл бұрын
or maybe they should have just release a cinema cut and a director's cut for the true fans of the alien lore
@chrishouk5796 Жыл бұрын
Crazy because stuff like this probably happened, only on a smaller scale - or was entirely covered up along with many atrocities of that time.
@happygilmore1844 Жыл бұрын
Indeed .however we will never know why they cut the movie down (usually for times sake) and could be simply budget related or time constraint related
@Naughtiest_Maximus3 ай бұрын
I was so pissed off that they didn't continue on the engineers theme. It's like the writers or whoever was in charge had no imagination to continue with the story. I remember the first time I watched Prometheus and I was in awe. My mind was like who created us, why did they leave us. What was wrong with us that you wanted to destroy or planet. Were you envy of us? Aggggghhhhhh,, fkn
@OtomoTenzi3 ай бұрын
Or, it could've been the PRODUCERS who junked this movie... Whoever that funded it ultimately has the final say on things. Nowadays, there are always alot of creative or political differences involved that just don't give the writers or directors complete free reign over HOW they want things to go. That is why movies from back then in the old days were BETTER.
@UFOCurrents Жыл бұрын
A movie dedicated to exploring the Engineers would be EPIC. ❤👽🙏
@erikred8217 Жыл бұрын
they only make the exact opposite though. I guess slaves that settle for slavery only get crap slave entertainment.
@theramplocal Жыл бұрын
Engineer trilogy!
@earthcitizen3939 Жыл бұрын
I wish that they will have the Engineers in a future alien-movie. The Engineers have potential.
@erikred8217 Жыл бұрын
@@earthcitizen3939 would only betray it like all of the potential since alien 3. gutted by the military.
@earthcitizen3939 Жыл бұрын
@@erikred8217 What do you mean by gutted by the military?
@Meenaia Жыл бұрын
Leaving all this in would have made this movie one of my favorites. So much more depth to the characters and most importantly to the Engineers.
@chrisjhart Жыл бұрын
I visited Dettifoss, the waterfall from Prometheus a couple of weeks ago, and stood in the exact same spot as the engineer! I still love this film, despite all of its flaws
@dawnatkinson7704 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Is the location very remote?
@chrisjhart Жыл бұрын
@@dawnatkinson7704 it is right at the north of the island, so it involved a big car journey from Reykjavik, but we did it over a weekend and got to see the entire ring road of Iceland. It is simple to get to in the summer but apparently all the roads close down in winter, making it pretty inaccessible.
@onemorechris Жыл бұрын
same! back in 2021. very cool
@onemorechris Жыл бұрын
@@dawnatkinson7704its touristy (there’s a car park, barriers and so on) but does require driving and walking to get to. it’s exactly like the film minus the aliens :) pick the time of year correctly though, Iceland gets very cold and dangerous
@Pichustrikesback Жыл бұрын
You should have drunk a bowl of soup or a cup of coffee to make it more memorable.
@MyWatchIsEnded Жыл бұрын
The funny part about Prometheus is that the entire movie was made to explain the engineers and the origin of the 'Xenomorph' species of the earlier films but their producer/investors changed their mind midway and made a nonsensical movie which cut out 75% of its actual content.
@markstevenson820911 ай бұрын
It's weird that they deleted so many scenes that could made the movie make more sense.
@christianealshut1123 Жыл бұрын
That's quite interesting - I knew that in the aftermath of watching the movie I heard the interpretation many times that the Engineers were set to destroy humanity because they had crucified Jesus, but judging from what the cut scenes suggest, the Deacon, i.e. that creature which suspiciously looks like a Xenomorph is their "Jesus" because that's what they worship. This would suggest that the Xenomorph was actually based on a creature that really truly existed, and that the Engineers' efforts were directed towards recreating that creature which they considered to be perfect. But this would mean that these Engineers are not really Gods or supernatural beings of any kind, that they have been created by someone or something else, i.e. they are "lesser Gods" at best and we humans, within the universe of what story, would be "children of a lesser god" (this is not intended to be a reference to the movie of the same title). They are not Gods in the sense of being perfect, but here they go about imitating their creators in becoming creators themselves, and being worshipped as Gods in their turn by them. And humans, represented by Peter Weyland, go about doing the same, with PW creating David, essentially repeating the hubris of their creators and creating beings that they hope will worship them as Gods. And in the sequel to this movie we have David essentially going mad because he cannot come to terms with being a perfect being created by a being that was essentially imperfect. 🥴
@samsham229511 ай бұрын
Removing all those deleted scenes from the movie did the movie a huge disservice. Production teams always make bad decisions.
@theyshouldhavenevergivenme54392 ай бұрын
They could have taken 15 minutes out of the first 3 scenes of the movie and kept all that in
@RingoLoadagain Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love that you're still making videos about this amazing movie. For me, there are a handful of scenes that I feel absolutely should have been in the film, but I don't feel that ALL of these should be reworked into the movie. I still hope for a true sequel every day.
@philmcclenaghan7056 Жыл бұрын
Amazing movie?.... Lol
@garciansmith1460 Жыл бұрын
The sequel was Alien Covenant, also a very very bad movie.
@dogfacedboy6947 Жыл бұрын
Ditto times a million! I really feel... attached to this, because the story itself was growing and mutating. Thanks heaps!
@knowsmebyname Жыл бұрын
@@garciansmith1460 Prometheus was a very good movie thzt could have been great. Covenant was crap start to finish
@Cornbread-gi6kt7 ай бұрын
Maybe if the producers included these deleted scenes the movie wouldn’t have ‘FLOPPED’ at the box office.
@dantecasalla3174 Жыл бұрын
i will never understand what Riddley Scott was thinking with the change on the script and the deleted scenes
@GK-jg6pu Жыл бұрын
I think one of the reason is the political corectness. He cut many religion references to not have trouble
@bartosztomasz Жыл бұрын
@@GK-jg6puInteresting theory
@donovanbradford8231 Жыл бұрын
Scott has had this whole theory that really started with this film that the xenomorph was dead and no one wanted to see it anymore well several movies, a tv series, and several big hit games have proven him wrong.
@tunnocks Жыл бұрын
@@donovanbradford8231He was right for the movies.
@GK-jg6pu Жыл бұрын
@@donovanbradford8231 i think aliens tv series would be a bomb
@melaniesmith1313 Жыл бұрын
I always got the idea the trilobite was attacking the engineer partially to protect its mother, Shaw. I have watched the scenes a number of times, still coming to that conclusion.
@GripThornGoose5 ай бұрын
Pretty sure it just has a killer primal instinct. It seemed like it was going to kill Shaw in the med pod until she escaped. As well as when she runs into the Trilobite at the end and it's behind the door. It seemed if she had opened the door it would have killed her. Which gave her the idea to open the door when the Engineer came after her
@YankeeWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
I'm just going to put out what everybody's always thought: We need an Engineers movie.
@billymellon9481 Жыл бұрын
Im big on tranquil ponds n deep thots maybe a few pretty birds for a splash of co lour
@rb6725 Жыл бұрын
Production companies cut movies down, not the directors.
@mostlynew Жыл бұрын
Sometimes less is more. Consider the hard edits in Alien.
@jefflayne9448 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully some day we can get a proper extended edition of Prometheus with the extra scenes.
@kelvynification Жыл бұрын
Perhaps we can get a completely new film that doesn’t kill off what should have been a fantastic new storyline.
@harrywalker968 Жыл бұрын
read this.. i watched life of brian,monty python, ect.. before i knew, what they were based on.. same with this movie.. so,, this was taken from. viper tv sumerian tablets.. not just a movie,, but our tru beginnings.. search for real history,,not gaming, movie, tv media bs.. saw an interview, with r. scott.. he acually leaned, to this..
@idiot_city54442 ай бұрын
Took 20 years for Alien
@Billy11179 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU Kroft, for all your hard work, I've been subbed for years, and you still are one of my favorite channels, my go-to for anything PEOMETHEUS! (my in depth anything Prometheus guide)
@brianh9358 Жыл бұрын
I think one of the main reasons that the engineer's speech was deleted is they wanted to leave his behavior to be a mystery - to be explained in a later movie. So, you could say it was all about money and getting you to come and see the next movie.
@thedudebro1689 ай бұрын
The fact this has been viewed 1.4m times tells me there could be a successful adaptation as a high budget series.. hopefully disney do this.
@Beanso Жыл бұрын
Yeah dude you made this movie 10 times better than it actually was lol
@StefanBlagojevic Жыл бұрын
The most complete variant of Prometheus movie IMO is: Prometheus Workprint Edition Ver 2017.
@Beanso Жыл бұрын
@@StefanBlagojevic I gotta see it!
@o-datsingh7296 Жыл бұрын
Yes your comment is so correct
@milosjovic4402 Жыл бұрын
any links? @@StefanBlagojevic
@StefanBlagojevic Жыл бұрын
@@milosjovic4402 Имаш на РЕДИТ-у, форум са линковима. Већ сам ти писао једном, али алгоритам ми је обрисао коментар. Поздрав.
@randyqquaint84008 ай бұрын
33 deleted scenes. Christ was said to be 33 at his time of crucifixion. Yep, Illuminati confirmed.
@andreyzhuchkov1882 Жыл бұрын
it's nuts there's still potential for new videos on this channel with this now familiar style of narration of yours and this background music. How many years have passed and still we're left with the mystery of engineers set up in the Prometheus movie, gosh
@cryoranges34413 ай бұрын
this is why I had hard time trying to understand the movie cuz there were a lot of deleted scenes from the movie especially the engineers origin😢
@MrZayne8 Жыл бұрын
Great to hear from you Kroft. The poor effort in illuminating Engineer motivations and origins is very unfortunate. They really had something captivating to explore. The audience got great cinematography with some teasing visuals, then is left with the bad taste of ambiguousness. This film left an impression when I walked out of the theater in 2012 and it still does, beyond it's imperfections. In a somewhat similar light as the map/invitation found globally in disconnected ancient cultures we have remarkably mysterious structures globally right here on Earth that have a similar "DNA". So called Megalithic structures in Peru share an essence with structures across the world in Italy, Greece, Egypt and other locales. Assembled from large to enormous blocks of stone with very high precision that defy the official mumbo jumbo narrative. Their official history is not on actual record and is merely comprised of elaborate supposition and drawn conclusion, packaged and delivered as truth for the unknowing and unwitting masses. Some legends, of course, suggest giants constructed them. In the Alien Covenant novel, while referencing the Engineers, David makes a remark : "they did like to build things...". I wonder if beyond all of our speculations and fantasies that if a greater truth is right in front of us, yet unrecognized because we are not conditioned or possibly not even equipped to recognize it.
@BeechHouse2 ай бұрын
Not exploring the engineer's storyline is where this franchise died.
@yert8527 Жыл бұрын
I just want more Shaw. Such an amazing performance, i loved every second of her
@AnaMaria-wn6jn Жыл бұрын
Ridley Scott hates his female characters… which is why he destroys them.
@carlrutherford1618 Жыл бұрын
He totally mutilated Shaw in the sequel
@biaklun.ngaihte74423 ай бұрын
@@carlrutherford1618she never deserved that 😢
@BabyKobeeee Жыл бұрын
I just want a sequel for closure
@____-gy5mq Жыл бұрын
alien covenant
@nataliegray583411 ай бұрын
Aint it Alien Covenant 😂 ^
@agreen9903 Жыл бұрын
Glad you did this video, at least now we know what it should have been, for that I am grateful, excellent content as always
@Mav3rickShorts Жыл бұрын
been following your content on Prometheus and aliens for years and absolutely love them as Prometheus is easily in my top 5 movies . You should write ideas for the next movie to Ridley Scott who knows it might even work out, we never know 🤷♂️🤷♂️
@cipryan96 Жыл бұрын
What are them? Top 5
@jebpleb1803 Жыл бұрын
Have you only seen 7 movies?
@MrSmiley1964 Жыл бұрын
@@jebpleb1803 I was thinking that it must suck that this guy/gal/ non-binary wasted time watching Batman Forever.
@Unrealistic-o9c Жыл бұрын
Top 5 movies, are you even 21?
@maryyy103011 ай бұрын
I just want Ridley Scott to make a movie like two or three hours about the engineers, I’d be so freaking happy
@Thrillbo341 Жыл бұрын
The axe that elizabeth shaw picks up towards the end of the movie was originally intended to be a Engineers weapon, there a bunch of them mounted on the walls in the alien ship navigation room.
@Sutterjack Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this compilation and I'm a huge Alien fan but I don't know how Ridley went so off the rails with these prequels (Prometheus and Covenant) - just an overblown hot mess. So much opportunity to explain who the engineers were and their motives wasted.
@drago7238 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are so great. You opened my eyes to so much and almost think the story has more reality than fiction and that Scott might know more than what we think. God bless
@J479fstknvds Жыл бұрын
You're definitely onto something
@vaultboy4710 Жыл бұрын
... riiiiight.
@zacharyberridge7239 Жыл бұрын
That's stupid as shit.
@jluc94563 ай бұрын
These deleted scenes would have made this film worth watching. I was extremely excited when this film came out but then disappointed after watching it. Nothing was explained and we were left trying to piece things together. So disappointing that these scenes were deleted.
@OtomoTenzi3 ай бұрын
Exactly... They just want ya to PAY money to see it, but they DON'T wanna let you enjoy it! 🤑
@slavomirkovac6236 Жыл бұрын
Ridley Scott should never deleted these interesting scenes! Don't understand why he did it.
@christianealshut1123 Жыл бұрын
I guess because the studio told him to, presumably to speed up the "pacing" of the movie. 😡 Honestly, I do not know why directors ever put up with this and why there aren't more having their name in the credits replaced by "Judas Boothe" to protest these changes, because they are hardly ever for the better and generally only produce plot-holes. It's the director who knows their story best, the studios usually cannot get their dollar signs out of their eyes.
@velocitymg Жыл бұрын
he should just never have made these uninteresting, uninspired, insipid movies...I'd rather watch paint dry
@geoffhoutman1557 Жыл бұрын
“Alan Smithee” exists exactly for this
@christianealshut1123 Жыл бұрын
@@geoffhoutman1557 yes, you're right, I've mixed that up, Judas Boothe is for Script writers...
@ynotwalk7391 Жыл бұрын
seriously - now we are getting 3 hour movies without half the substance
@moman1701a11 ай бұрын
I agree with your assessment of this film. Ridley Scott should have included all the deleted footage. I like some of his movies a lot. But, he’s not a good judge of his own work. Like deleting the narrative in Blade Runner. I thought it was interesting and it added an old time movie vibe.
@BillyBingpot Жыл бұрын
I really wish we got more on the Engineers, my fave parts of the films
@arvinjay336 Жыл бұрын
You should try to read the Fire and Stone Aliens / Prometheus/ AVP its pretty cool!
@eastbrecht Жыл бұрын
Yeah, he should have expanded on the Übermensch lore. Instead we got fluting robots.
@earthcitizen3939 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, at least that was something new and interesting. Covenant became about an angry android, no thanks to that.
@ichigen5112 ай бұрын
Super appreciate all the editing you do with lots of details in your description it's obvious you love your craft and we all appreciate it. Keep up the great work you are in a class above the rest.
@N0rseman Жыл бұрын
I love when Kroft uploads. The Alien franchise is amazing and i've been a fan for a long time. I'm not just talking about the good movies. I'm talking about the whole franchise. It is good to see people who like Prometheus, Alien Covenant , and the original movies. EDIT: I also agree with you 100% about John Spaihts version of the script and i don't understand why Ridley Scott decided to bring in Damon when the script that was written by Spaihts was a very solid script and if Ridley would have went with Spaihts version, i feel that Prometheus wouldn't have gotten such a negative review. Additionally, It is extremely upsetting me that we won't get to have a sequel to Covenant. David, is one of the best characters in this franchise and i would have loved to see what happens down the line between him and the engineers. Now, all we can do is imagine what would happen. I wrote a script for the sequel of covenant called Alien: Royalty and I'm sure that there are many people out there like me who have written their own story of David's continuance and since we will never get a sequel to covenant, we will have to stick to the comics and fan made scripts and stories.
@iamsocial4340 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the breakdown. This movie could have been so much more, they decided to play it safe and not offend anyone.
@sunnythegreat9617 Жыл бұрын
The Engineers were a fascinating and mysterious civilizations in this Franchise, sad that they can't make a spin off or give more time to any Engineer story telling. It would be fun to see what the Writers can come up with for the Engineers.
@mel.r6589 Жыл бұрын
This is genuinely such interesting content. Thank you for stuff like this! And props to everybody who made the scenes in this movie possible at all, I'm sure it's a lot of work. Maybe there could be a book, movie, or something else made to explore Engineers in their entirety. I want to see more of their culture, history, and religion! There's so many possibilities still open for the taking with Prometheus. I just hope it continues with the "fuck you, figure it out on your own" thing.
@Unpainted_Huffhines Жыл бұрын
So, this is basically 33 instances of "The movie would've made a lot more sense if they had left this in". The original concept for this movie had an actual semblence of an understandable plot, but the film makers for some reason decided to change it and make it totally indecipherable from what's presented on screen.
@happycompy Жыл бұрын
Agreed 💯
@neomaredi59223 ай бұрын
And entertaining 😅
@stephenhuman8082 Жыл бұрын
The green crystal/cup switch is utterly baffling. Thanks for reviewing the deleted scenes, still not sure if it could have redeemed Prometheus but I guess we will never know.
@laskaris9 Жыл бұрын
It's sad that Prometheus and Covenant suffer from terrible editing. For me they are (or could've been) the best example of scifi horror films.
@Kralechka Жыл бұрын
Love this movie, thanks for the video! “Not a map, an invitation “ is not deleted. I’ve seen it many times.
@VeeHausen Жыл бұрын
Prom and Cov are impressive and far more interesting to me than most other movies from this genre. Big, big fan of the Alien 1,2 & 3. Prom and Cov are a great addition to this IP and I wish they hadn't cancelled Season 3 of Raised by Wolves, another amazing show!
@BobfishAlmighty Жыл бұрын
What I'm really wondering, is how many of these scenes were cut _after_ it's run in theatres? Because I swear, I remember seeing most of them and being confused when my memories didn't match up with the home video release
@Blumoon_vii7 ай бұрын
The editing killed this movie ... it killed it so deeply
@carnage8120 Жыл бұрын
Prometheus could've been so much better with the Engineer's planet exploration
@clee8884 ай бұрын
Beyond frustrating that after creating the start to such an amazing Alien backstory in Prometheus , that Scott sold out to create the horrible garbage that was Covenant, which is a repeated retelling of the story about the Alien wreaking havoc that has been outplayed to the point its in numerous video games and cartoons with even ridiculous weird spinoffs of Alien vs Predator.
@OtomoTenzi3 ай бұрын
GREED: He prolly knew his time was comin' and just wanted to pocket some money before he left... 💰💰🤑💰💰
@RetroVideoGamer23 Жыл бұрын
At this point I feel we will never get a proper prometheus 2, it would of been epic
@babayaga-j3f Жыл бұрын
That's the stupidest idea I've heard all year.
@Texas240 Жыл бұрын
"Would have" or its contraction, "would've", not "would of". "Would of" is basically homonym gibberish.
@GabrielAlcala956 Жыл бұрын
@@babayaga-j3fthe fact we don’t have promseus 2 is a disgrace to amerika
@patscott6365 Жыл бұрын
@@Texas240 Thank you from an elderly, former English teacher!
@montyburns99864 ай бұрын
After the realease of "Alien", Ridley Scott said that he deleted the scene in which we see Dallas and Brett cocooned in the Xenomorph nest, because it interrupted the arc of suspense. As he released the Cirector's Cut 25 years later, he said that this scene was worth to be seen by the audience too, so he inserted it into the movie again. I suppose, there will be a Director's Cut of "Prometheus" that will include some of these deleted scenes to open us a different view to this story. And it will possibly be better than the actual movie, maybe similar to "Blade Runner" and "Kingdom of Heaven" that are much better in the Director's Cuts than the Cinema Cuts. By the way, I think that Scott was right: that scene interrupts the arc of suspense. But he was also right as he said, that it is worth to be seen. If the scene would have been in the Cinema version too, James Cameron probably wouldn't have introduced his Alien Queen to the franchise, because it in fact makes no sense.
@aztecterp Жыл бұрын
I love this movie. Sadly, after watching this and your other videos, I think it could have been much better. Thanks!
@alexiosfini6958 Жыл бұрын
Dude your voice is calming it puts me to sleep every single time. It’s a compliment by the way
@Sleptwiturgirl Жыл бұрын
So sad we’re never finishing this story
@user-ny7vz9fh5y Жыл бұрын
ur finishing the story In Real Life u ignorant human
@YodaOnABender Жыл бұрын
I just wish it got retconned. The engineers removed all the mystery of the space jockey, especially by revealing that they’re actually just tall pale bald guys instead of weird elephant looking aliens like the first movie implied
@jebpleb1803 Жыл бұрын
It was finished after Aliens.
@diegoaespitia Жыл бұрын
@@YodaOnABender not at all cause a reason was never given as to why they want to kill humanity. whether with space jockey or bald pale engineers.
@YodaOnABender Жыл бұрын
@@diegoaespitia The space jockey and the engineers are the same thing, that’s why it sucks
@el_chico13132 ай бұрын
removing all the scenes that would hqve made this movie special, good job ridley
@FlavioMarceloSousa35 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating stuff. I love Prometheus, I have no idea why Scott refuses to release an extended cut.
@bobtornton1436 Жыл бұрын
Because he believes the correct version is what he delivered. Like a writter is not publishing all the chapter he wrote for a book ...
@fiddleandfart10 ай бұрын
'Cos it's a misconceived and disappointing load of crap?? (In my view!)
@Untoldtruth_018 ай бұрын
The conversation with wayland would have made so much sense,these deleted scenes def should have been in the film sad really like what were they thinking,ive must have watched this 5 times good video ty
@phillyGz13 ай бұрын
The movies were good, but it would've been so much better if they hadn't deleted these seens. I want to know more about the engineers and if they have contact with the Predator species. One of the predators' movies takes place in the Antarctic, and they seem to almost worship the aliens also.
@common_c3nts Жыл бұрын
I still have no idea what Prometheus is about and how it is related to the alien movies. They made an entire move without explaining anything.
@rjsheffer2 Жыл бұрын
I suppose the most painful thing about this whole series is that I so wanted the engineers to be friends.
@alanblack6500 Жыл бұрын
I have always thought we were missing more about the movie, the story never felt complete to me, now I know why, thanks for giving the context that was missing that explains the back gound better.
@torealexandersen2179 Жыл бұрын
What I loved about the original movie, was that you felt a deep univers, that you only saw a fragment of. As soon as you explain everything that depth is erased.
@bobtornton1436 Жыл бұрын
thx you. The maker of this video does not undersntad a thing about story telling. They want to explain and understand everything ... That why is a youtube maker and Ridley a director.
@YootubeUK Жыл бұрын
@@bobtornton1436 Quite right, like a David Lynch film people shouldn't need to be spoon fed everything.
@rclrd1 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. One of the (many) things that made Alien (1986) so memorable was the _utter incomprehensibility_ of what the Nostromo crew encountered on LV-426. The vast derelict ship, the 'space jockey', the xenomorph itself ... were awe-inspiring because they were _beyond human understanding._ Any attempt at a story designed to 'explain' them and relate them to humanity would inevitably come across as an anticlimax. I enjoyed Prometheous as a 'stand-alone' movie but didn't find the idea that it had any relevance to the original movie that inspired it to be at all convincing.
@FantasticExplorers11 ай бұрын
Nah, I get it... I loved this movie in theaters, and for me it is age like fine wine! I love the unforgiving realness, It gave you JUST ENOUGH information to have an idea what was happening. The final version of the movie we got, we know just as much as Shaw! The scariest version is what we got, an absence of answers, only knowing that engineers want to destroy us. Scott loves true cosmic horror, and that's exactly what we got! Same thing with covenant, that ending was practically the perfect horror ending! I love this channel! I love the directions they COULD have in. The explanations bring A LOT of richness! Especially the conversation and the navigator's room! Now can Scott keep doing this, I HOPE that's not the case!! That would very much like be beating a dead horse!
@TymeTraveling777 Жыл бұрын
Anytime you explain videos . I know its going to be great 👍🏼. I think shaw and weylands daughter should have survived for the next movie .
@herbh9348 Жыл бұрын
There are always deleted scenes in every movie, but I have to agree that many scenes should've been left in, especially the exchange between Wayland and the tall humanoid. I hope they release the extended version someday.
@randomlol9283 Жыл бұрын
I liked the fact he kept using that Atlantis audio in each video to make the video more interesting.
@Moviepunk20772 ай бұрын
If David was crying was removed, it's because they didn't want to show that David had this emotion, therefore he doesn't. We shouldn't take scenes that were deleted as canon.
@lionelfoster5739 Жыл бұрын
While far from perfect, I never quite understood why Prometheus got so much hate. It has some great characters(mostly David) , some horrifying sci-fi monster moments and a story with somewhat interesting musings on the origin of life. Yea, the plot never quite comes together and some of the characters behave strangely( which these deleted scenes seem to clear up somewhat anyway) but it’s a great looking space monster movie with some great aesthetics and vibes. I think it’s the fact it’s thought of as being part of the aliens series that doomed it. It seems clear from this video it may have had some stronger themes and narratives it was trying to explore but unfortunately got lost on the way through production. Still a fun movie for what it is.
@fiddleandfart10 ай бұрын
Sorry, I hated it! For me it was Scott ruining his own magic, and shattering the spell of "Alien." But sure, "Prometheus" remains the film that divides "Alien' freaks!!
@Kid_Kootenay4 ай бұрын
Ohhhh man thank you glad I searched this out. Ive watched the movie a few times and its never really made sense but these scenes really help most alien less the naked lunch lol
@StruggleBoxing Жыл бұрын
Kroft Is Here! 🙏
@Iceaxehikes9 ай бұрын
Ridley Scott wanted Alien to end with the Alien smashing through Ripley's mask and ripping her head off followed by the Alien sitting down and recording a distress message perfectly mimicking Captain Dallas's voice. After pitching the idea to Fox executives over the phone he was met with silence. 14 hours later a Fox executive arrived on set and threatened to fire Ridley Scott on the spot if the film ended in Ripley's death. Ridley was a brilliant director but when was went wrong.. he really went wrong in a big way.
@nerdoutreachprogram53587 ай бұрын
This movie is entertaining, but has zero to do with Aliens. There are only 2 alien movies; Alien and Aliens.
@grantjones5222 ай бұрын
this takes place before
@alexshmalex2 ай бұрын
Great video. What I took from this was that had all of these deleted scenes been included in the theatrical release, it would have been a much, much, better film.
@davidhamrick3388 Жыл бұрын
It is utterly disappointing to hear Scott will not re-release with all these scenes. I so love this film!
@abradfordajb8 ай бұрын
The final movie cut was too cryptic. Even though i was not aware of all this removed material at the time i saw the film, i really felt that there was alot of missing material. We all know that extensive editing goes into a production and much film ends up on the cutting room floor (allusion to a bygone era when editing was a physical activity with real film), but nonetheless, i too agree that the movie would have been much more meaningful if more of these scenes were included. Thanks for this video.
@atTran-bc8vg Жыл бұрын
Biggest fan
@rossdtool Жыл бұрын
One or two of these deleted scenes were in the cut that we got in Australia. The one I’m sure of is where Shaw says “no, not a map, an invitation.” After fifield says “so you brought us here because of a map you two kids found in a cave?”
@stevek4070 Жыл бұрын
Makes me sad that the engineers were cut and ignored from the movie. People wanted xenomorphs not an origination story and it burned this great original idea out of the sky.
@hiamaraldvaan7221 Жыл бұрын
From the begining people wanted engineers but someone deliberately started a rumor tp justify changing the plot and old Ridley believed it.
@immortaljanus17 күн бұрын
As a writer myself, I can appreciate how difficult it is to put a jumble of vague ideas into solid form, be it book or a movie script. These missing scenes show us how the film producers meander with their ideas and unfortunately, things don't always work out. There is another thing to consider. The producers want the film to be profitable, not to deliver an intriguing story that delves into mythological/theological topics. I'm often disappointed at how movies end because while they may deliver an emotional climax, they don't answer the questions that they posed. The questions are just breadcrumbs they use to lure us in but they very often fail to deliver on their promises.
@eriksturdevant858911 ай бұрын
Again, a Scott movie destroyed by bad editing. Could have been great.
@wikimiki57654 ай бұрын
why all this good scenes are deleted ?
@raw_pc3 ай бұрын
Prometheus is still my favourite Alien movie. I said what I said 😅 Sometimes it's better not to know everything to let your mind wonder.
@caramelconundrum9280 Жыл бұрын
I still haven’t watched covenant because it is an abomination.
@earthcitizen3939 Жыл бұрын
You don't need to, it's too much about David.
@KatB-M4 ай бұрын
This makes the film make sooo much more sense. I had to watch the film multiple times, they truly stripped the scenes that bound the narrative together. Prometheus and Covenant both had so much potential, but these gaps just dragged them to the bottom of the ocean.