Alien: Romulus Movie Explained (SPOILERS)

[@replicon1]

I loved this movie. I understand the complaints that some people have but I think it's flaws are vastly outweighed by it's strengths.

[@Fourtune1]

I agree. Some people will just never be satisfied. I wonder what movies they actually like.

[@MindbodyMedic]

​@@Fourtune1I like ALIEN, it's fantastic. This on the other hand is a turd Ridley helped mold because he's butthurt at Cameron's addition to Alien lore via Queen life cycle. We get these movies because of nerdy fandom's who are sated with memberberries

[@MrRyuken555]

​@@Fourtune1Alien and Aliens

[@jcraftgaming76]

@@MindbodyMedic womp womp. seethe and cry.

[@juanausensi499]

@@jcraftgaming76 On what planet is that a mature response?

[@thomaswerle4134]

This movie made me realize that Ripley becomes the perfect organism in resurrection.

[@SpiritHawk7]

I had the exact same thought.

[@Menaceblue3]

Acid blood? Enhanced durability? Peak human strength? Yeah, she kinda was the perfect organism

[@ilyabazoroff230]

The only inconvenience would occur if she menstruates of course

[@ArtofLunatik]

@@thomaswerle4134 and she could play basketball really good too 😊

[@thomaswerle4134]

@ArtofLunatik I believe if you are inclined to be kind to the writers, you could infer that her ability to blindly sink the hoop and when she detects that the ship has changed course back to earth, that she has a new sense of spacial awareness/perception. No one would want to be kind to writers in this day and age though.

[@slinkyatrest]

Sir, I don't mean to alarm you but it appears your house is careening into a collision course with the sun.

[@ThorogoodFilms]

Ahahahaha!

[@teletranoats7491]

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha that´s what I pay internet for...ahahahahahahahahahaha

[@philmcclenaghan7056]

... hilarious... was it worth the 10 seconds to type that out?

[@briangreene7085]

He's the YT equivalent of that dude from the movie Sunshine....... want's to be the last YT review before we all just go away........ honestly though, I think the camera lens has fake sun tan on it

[@montgomerylamar3916]

Awesome analysis! Just one thing... I don't think Kay knowingly injected herself with the Xenomorph essence though. She wasn't present when it was explained as to what exactly was contained in the vials. The only interaction she had with it was when Andy was acting on company orders and suggested she inject it to save her life.

[@mizuslayer]

and andy prob just really wanted to see what would happen to her if she injected herself bc by then he knew she was pregnant too. androids are so shady and always tryna capitalize on getting humans to slip and experiment on themselves w/ the black goo to see what other life forms can be made lmao. and they’re always such masters of plausible deniability and reasoning too. can never trust em

[@ThorogoodFilms]

Ah thank you! That's a good point! I guess Rain does say she doesn't trust it in Kay's presence. But yes, I raise it not so much to blame Kay, but to point out that when she does take it we see the disturbing consequences of trying to integrate the Xenomorph with the human.

[@jenniferesein4813]

This might be a stretch, but you can kind of make the argument that Eve also didn't get the direct instruction not to partake in the forbidden fruit since God told Adam not to eat it before Eve came into existence.

[@woodswitchprints]

@@jenniferesein4813 I was about to make the same point. Neither Eve nor Kay were fully informed to know what they were consenting to, and it also ties into what Jesus says on the cross: "Forgive them, father, for they know not what they do."

[@ofthegrayfortress]

true

[@koopa_soup]

The ending scene introducing the hybrid was intended to give us the answer as to why the engineer who seeded earth had normal skin, and the one later seen towards the end of the prometheus movie had biomechanics integrated into his skin. It honestly told us so much about the engineers and why they created the xenomorphs that we saw on that ship in the first movie without being direct. Since they couldn’t reproduce the original strain they extracted the black goo and infused themselves with the substance (the right way), which is exactly what the company intended to do with the substance once it was perfected to “improve” humanity. The ship in alien wasn’t intended for earth, it was intended for the planet Shaw and David discovered, just not directly because that would pose the possibility of another outbreak. The eggs weren’t meant to hatch, because they were never intended to be weapons but instead researched and used to produce future generations of the engineers. They only cared for the xenomorph specimen because of its ability to restructure dna and give life, which was the engineers original intent with the ENTIRE project, to save their race by finding a cure to their inability to reproduce, maybe humanity was another experiment as well? The only issue was that they experienced an outbreak during their research and everything went to hell. That is why the engineer wanted to destroy earth. He saw that we had created AI and were on the same exact path as them, especially if we were to discover the black goo, then all of the galaxy would be in jeopardy. Remember that the engineers were known to seed life and create, not destroy. They needed to wipe us out before the outbreak extended past that planet they used as a research outpost in Prometheus. Big takeaway from all of this : the xenomorph was never intended to be a weapon, it was a product of genetic mutation that was never supposed to exist, and that they only intended to use it the same way wey-tani was going to use it. David knew that and was on the same page in terms of researching the reproductive cycles because that’s what it always comes back to, the ability to reproduce.

[@JG-mg3if]

Damn that was a nice read 👍🏽

[@FinalFantasy7Re-]

This guy directed the movies

[@camcraft7217]

This is THE best theory i ever heard till today! Makes totally sense and explains many issues. Beautiful theory.

[@Uzair823]

I wanted them to explore the other outposts on the planets we saw in prometheus and alien covenant. Who knows maybe this movie romulus is tying things up so we can finally see the protaganists of this film meetup with david in the next. David is still alive from covenant and hes on a ship, who knows might get another prequel which finally clears things up or the engineers will rock up and show david his place in this world as they are orginally the ones we thought to create the xenos, they worshipped the deacon and such etc etc

[@JG-mg3if]

@@koopa_soup damn I keep coming back to this theory . Wish I could bookmark it, this make to much sense 🤯

[@robertpetre9378]

You could look at the newborn almost alien hybrid almost like a Nephilim that was a fallen angel hybrid between a female human and an angel creating a Demon.

[@ThomasMeirhaeghe]

Nice take, didn’t think of it this way.

[@robertpetre9378]

@@ThomasMeirhaeghe Well, if you’re going to go into religious perspective, I suppose that’s the closest equivalent

[@chadclark1055]

Nephillum, that is so true. Products of fallen angels being with the beautiful women from Genesis. Isn’t this the main reason for the flood? I thought it was because every man had evil in his heart, not seeking God. Except Noah

[@EchoHD]

I could see it that way

[@KMIent416]

First thing that came to mind tbh

[@isisatlantis3168]

My parents took me to see Aliens in 1986. I was 6yo and they didn't have a babysitter. The fear that I experienced as a little girl in the theater, was felt again while I watched this film. The face huggers running amuck throughout the room and station, a character seeing a xenomorph for the first time, and the newest horror the offspring. When first saw it crawling, the Wendigo was the first thing that came to mind. Very unsettling.

[@Phalanx11]

Your parents should be in jail.

[@KimLoveChihuhuas2010]

I was 22 when I saw that film and I think it caused minor PTSD, so I can’t even imagine what you must have felt…probably shock and lingering PTSD. Poor kid.

[@marlon363]

Hella exaggerated lmfao! “Minor PTSD” and “I felt the same fear as a child” please 🙄

[@jamesfindice2871]

The new creature is so much like the orphan of kos!!

[@alltheflavors9673]

even the astroturfing for this sloppy movie is ridiculous.

[@niels25chr1]

The "offspring" has more in common with an engineer than a xenomorph.

[@woodswitchprints]

That's because the black goo/pathogen contains Engineer DNA, which is what the Romulus team was trying to isolate without the drawbacks of xenomorph DNA. They just hadn't succeeded.

[@dani-chan5655]

I want a movie showing what happened to David after Covenant!

[@davidhope5713]

Hopefully they can bring him into Romulus 2 somehow, i would like to see him also and how Andy would interact with him, But he needs to find his demise in the next movie - also be cool to bring back Shaw as a clone.

[@1984-i1w]

@@davidhope5713 how about an original movie and not a mashup of all previous ones

[@ecoidea100]

Aliens in the Weiland-Yutani headquarters.

[@javierlandaverde4108]

Won’t ever happened with Disney owning Fox. They looked and saw Covenent tanked in the box office. Decided to scrap Scott’s trilogy. Instead optéis for Romulus which will get sequel with them killing it in the box office. They also have a series coming to Fox that takes in between 1 & 2.

[@javierlandaverde4108]

@@davidhope5713David’s timeline is wayyy before 1&2 but I mean they brought back Ash and program it to Rook. So who knows Les perhaps they can copy that.

[@mizuslayer]

ALSO i wanna point out some beautiful and poignant foreshadowing the script does: 1. when explaining the backstory of remus + romulus when describing the naming of the research station, they show renaissance(?) era or greco roman paintings of an (evil looking? or unknowingly evil) baby feeding on a dying mother’s breasts.. 2. navarro promises they’ll “get em out” and they do but… 3. kay saying “i’m just glad this baby is going to see the sun” and well technically it actually does…in more ways than one, too. 4. (not the best one but) u can sorta predict andy will survive bc in the beginning he insists on needing $ to buy a horse for rain on yvaga EDIT: 5. they show the rat dying from a chestburster after being fed the prometheus strain, but the group leaves before the flight record footage could show em that. 6. doesnt entirely count but one of the cpu loggers flashes an alert file re facehuggers when the cryo chamber breach sets off the temperature shelves. ALSO lowkey i think kay and bjorn had an affair and the baby was his. when rain asks kay who’s the father she says “oh some asshole..” who’s been the single asshole in the friend group the entire time? bjorn. and the way he holds her when the alien grows inside its pod before he tries to kill it, it looks too romantic rather than platonic. i could v well be wrong but it makes for such a more interesting character plot imo. i’m convinced the orig script had more implications re that and the final cut just could take it or leave it since it’s already 2 hrs. i bet a longer director’s cut or a deleted scene would indulge in that

[@shreksswamp5721]

The rat doesnt fie from a chestburster it mutates into a rat/xenomorph hybrid

[@mizuslayer]

@@shreksswamp5721 ah thank u! copy

[@JasonJones-l1n]

Is Bjorn, the father of kays unborn baby? I kind of think he is😮😮😮😮

[@TheKristyMack]

I thought bjorn was their cousin

[@daskrunkly3213]

@@TheKristyMack he is…

[@DPham1]

I just realized that the overall plot of A:R mirrors that of Don't Breathe quite a bit (because Fede also directed it). Young kids, living in a shit place, breaking into a forbidden place to steal smth of value that will ensure their future & get them out of their sordid lives/home

[@broffy7621]

I've never actually seen Don't Breath, but it's on my list now.

[@DPham1]

@@broffy7621 it's good, the tension will keep you on the edge of your seat. And the ending...

[@roachantenna80085]

havent watched the vid yet so idk if he says it but they have the same director, fede alvarez

[@andrewmcleod9312]

@@broffy7621 Watch it !! Don't breath, really good movie I think

[@giselleparks3125]

Fede is Venezuelan I believe? He recently has said that his movies are all personal stories of feeling trapped somewhere and the journey to finding self liberation, so when you realize the common thread connecting his films it makes a lot of sense

[@JimmyxBonez]

Stop complaining and start appreciating movies! The fact that that Ridley said yes and it was pushed to the big screen instead of streaming platforms was a great choice! It's different than all the Superhero and Secret Agent movies. I truly enjoyed Rolumus because it felt nostalgic. I was a kid when I saw Alien ans seeing sometning close to that decades later made me so happy!

[@DanielRodriguez-zi9qe]

That doesnt take away from the flaws tho. Especially ridley forcing his black goo plot point into every aliens movie and realise that prometheus and coveneant were not that interesting or philosophical like he trys to make them out to be. But i did like the film it was a good movie to watch the last arc was just not needed

[@ryanhodgson1879]

Did you enjoy star wars acolyte?

[@Irishpkrwood]

You know ur right I'm a huge fan I couldn't get passed there was obviously eggs (facehuggers) without a queen , obviously the alien took a while to wake up

[@Irishpkrwood]

​@@DanielRodriguez-zi9qeI hate that whole engineer BS , just have eggs, facehuggers and aliens forget the whole Prometheus and covnenent bs

[@tommykaira8775]

Ridley is so overlly overrated

[@johanandersson8646]

Why did Weyland Yutani-corporation just let they station drift in space especially considering how important it was to them?

[@ackerion2830]

I guess because WY realized that the station was on a collision course with the icy rings of the planet already, and the security forces that killed Big Chap once it got out of control problably couldn't fully take care of the station infestation and may have perished, so WY decided to just let the station crash and save resources (that they many not have, since they are not the military) to blow it up before. I guess...

[@bluedragontoybash2463]

Probably because space travel takes like months to execute due to the distance constraint, and the "accident" happened like 120 days prior

[@Fourtune1]

@@bluedragontoybash2463exactly. Not like it was years. They needed to track the ship and then have the resources to travel there. Not to mention keep it secret from most people.

[@borislugosi54]

It's a plot point not meant to be thought about (one of many) because it doesn't make sense. WY could have sent a team up from the colony to secure the station. At least take it out of decaying orbit.

[@matty894]

@@borislugosi54it was a shake n bake colony full of civilians workers and miners. Not really any crack teams of high up Wayland Yutani mercs or executives available in such a place. They also would have wanted to keep the place secret as best as possible

[@REDI2UM]

As sections of the Renaissance station: The Remus section housed cryogenic labs, with printer incubators that printed Facehuggers and held them in stasis. The Romulus section housed test labs and bacta tanks, that extracted the mutagen fluid from the Facehuggers once they had been transported.

[@alfchuah]

Do we know why Weyland Yutani didn’t search for this ship with such important mission and knowledge? Have I missed something? How can they let this ship just float in the space when the value it carries is too important for the company?

[@REDI2UM]

​@@alfchuah Response of any kind would take roughly 6 weeks as stated by Rook. But given the state of the station, it's likely there was no one left to sound the alarm - not even Rook (he was basically wrecked, and couldn't work without external power). Given the station's trajectory with the planet's rings, there's realistically nowhere near enough time by the time of the movie for any kind of company response. If the station was floating still, it would call into question why didn't they do anything - but the station drifted for some time, and got pulled into orbit, so tracking it externally would've been like finding a needle at the bottom of the ocean.

[@benliftin4awhile]

@@REDI2UMnot to mention it was going to be destroyed inevitably which is good for the company in terms of keeping it all quiet and also prevent others from finding that value.

[@jorgeabraham3414]

Not the hardcore alien fan right here, I´m more like a Blade Runner, Dune kind of nerd, I love sci fi and I truly enjoyed Alien Romulus in the theater. Great to see a come back for practical effects and set design and the CGI stuff was also great. Your anlaysis was of the best I've seen about this movie and I've seen SOME. Already subscribed eager to watch more from you, good luck I hope your viewership grows exponentially.

[@merlinboshoff1052]

From what I'm understanding you describe, wouldn't the Xenomorphs be the heavenly beings sent to punish prometheus for stealing there fire, in my opinion the xenomorphs are basically the runners of hell, like when the characters first enter the hive all those scientists on the walls there screams echoing through the station, they are being punished for trying to steal the fire, the fire could also be the fruit from the tree of knowledge, because of how it changed man, teaching man about sin, or maybe, just maybe, the xenomorphs are that fire sword protecting the tree of life, since they hold immortality it makes sense they are the protectors of it as well, just as a theory, no one says angels have to be beautiful with white robs and harps

[@ChrisM-yq2pq]

I think they are like cats in space. They like to play together and just want to self produce. Plus cats are perfect purrrrrfect like aliens

[@Fourtune1]

Angels have always been more neutral. Some good some bad. In Judaism, some of them turned on the creator god.

[@Mess316]

Yeah honestly i too always thought of the alien as a big murder-kitty. Imho big chap in the first was also kind of curious and playful, it just makes perfect sense. Plus why would he spare jonesy if not for feline bro-code

[@SunGodSe]

Well I'll be damned

[@ThorogoodFilms]

Great question! I suppose it depends on your view of God. In the Prometheus myth, the gods are capricious, withholding a gift from humanity. But in the Judeo-Christian view, God is good, and he is withholding the fruit because humans aren't ready for it. And if that's the case, I see the Xenomorphs as being much more like fallen angels. Put it this way, if unfallen angels are anything like Xenomorphs, that's a pretty depressing reality we live in!

[@TheSympathyOfAllThings]

This is a fantastic analysis!! I love that this movie continues the mythological/philosophical threads of Prometheus, albeit through more subtext this time. But for the active viewer, there is so much to chew on here!

[@ThorogoodFilms]

Ah thanks! Yes plenty to chew on.

[@alltheflavors9673]

@@ThorogoodFilms sure a bunch of "mystery boxes" with nothing inside.

[@atlanta2076]

Excellent movie. Some flaws here and there, but overall, a chilling experience, thought through and riveting to the end. I just have one gripe with it. Spoilers: . . . . . . . . They obtain the alien DNA from the wreckage of the Nostromo and take it to a lab station to study it, because the DNA holda the key to humanity's future. Or Wayland's profits. So it's the most important R&D project of Wayland. But then everything goes haywire and contact must have broken off with Wayland HQ. Since the project is THAT important, you'd think that HQ, who must have closely monitored the operations on that station, would have gone to the station asap. Even worse, the station flies by a planet that is controlled by Wayland. They must have noticed that a dead space station flew by their planet and be like: «Wait, that's the station we've lost contact with. What is it doing up there?» But they don't even try to enter it. Instead, a few young adults do. With a ship that they weren't supposed to have in the first place, since they had been working a terrible job to get a permit to leave the planet. Stil it doesn't ruin the movie for me, because the rest absolutely pans out.

[@mrspeigel3593]

I'm sure the company has a ship on the way, they're not going to send just anyone over there ..they've got a pretty good idea of the threat level and the work is top secret

[@phillipmoagi883]

I think it will have made for extra fun to have some corrupt tactical officials come over on the ship n also be attacked by the aliens.

[@Klaital1]

You forget that it takes like months for a message to travel through space to the WY headquarters, and the nanother several months for them to send a response (whether a message or a team), and the stuff went down in that station only very recently. And it was probably very highly classified project and thus only known by the top dogs in the company.

[@klassik562]

i think no one else tried to board the station because of the short timeline in wich the station would crash into the asteroid belt

[@d3f3ct1v3_]

I think weyland yultani got the majority of what they wanted from the facility and were "crashing" romulus into the planet to test/grow the xenos. ....on a planet - that gets zero sun.... coincidence?

[@magus3695]

you are extremely articulate , and thats what i love about you. keep up the great work .

[@ThorogoodFilms]

Too kind! Thank you!

[@SecretWarriorAW]

I’m a fan of the franchise and this is the first time I see someone make a video essay with a more “philosophical” take on Alien and the interpretation you give it it’s amazing. There’s so much more to them aside the brutality and the whole aliens vs humans. Loved it and subscribed!

[@robbyroba]

I loved this movie. The human hybrid lives in my nightmares rent free.

[@dwarvengamesmith9726]

I thought it looked more like an Engineer hybrid than human.

[@iriebuddha]

The look was creepy as hell

[@JimmyxBonez]

I love how you actually taught us about Romulus and Remus and also how Ridley Scott's show is called Raised by Wolves which correlates with the title

[@chadclark1055]

I love how you illustrate why God immediately kicked Adam and Eve out of the Garden. I didn’t realize that if they would’ve stayed and eaten from the tree of life, then there would be no hope of redemption from Jesus. We would be trapped in sin for eternity, just like how the fallen angels are. That is deep!!

[@benliftin4awhile]

Yep, it was mercy that pushed us out of the garden, imagine being eternal, while being spiritually dead. Thats literally hell. We would have all been there from the start had this banishment not happened.

[@alexyanker3059]

Rain is absolutely beautiful!

[@montgomeryfortenberry]

I thought she was jennifer lawrence with an ai young age filter

[@jakubcelebucki7816]

I loved it absolutely. and I love how you delve into details. Only those with real heart and mind set onto the art piece care to do that which is utmost admirable. Never stop seeking out those little details and keep the admiration of the craft going! Furthermore, I will add how apparent the symbolism of the myth is in that movie and Covenant. In Covenant we can hear David calling the xenomorph a wolf. Right here in Romulus we can directly see the symbolism. Of course the wolf is the xenomorph, a feral and wild beast potentially offering incredible strength. And such Kay's unborn yet child drinks the milk of the wolf by being influenced by the extract from the lab that the girl injected herself with. This way the actual Romulus is seen at the very end of the movie, killing his familiar and setting out to murder more. However as I had predicted myself even before watching.. How Romulus built Rome, it also had fallen. And so has he, blasted away onto the astral rings..

[@ThorogoodFilms]

Ah very kind, thank you! And that's fascinating, thanks so much for sharing!

[@notnotsyaj]

As a theologian and fan of the Alien franchise, I truly enjoyed your commentary

[@ebransc09]

Was I the only one that heard the name as Rey the whole time?

[@AnonymousSaiyan]

Dude what an incredibly well made video. And so well thought out and articulated. You definitely have a gift man. Subscribed and looking forward to more

[@mizuslayer]

not complaining but wanted to point out that none of these reviews seem to tend to talk about what’s prob my most fav about the alien installments: the cognitive and emotional games of chess the space travelers have to play w/ the androids in order to survive bc the synthetics’ loyalties are constantly shifting as they try to sabotage circumstances in order to preserve the alien or black goo for weyland-yutani’s purposes - all in the name of what’s “in the best interests of the company” every generation from ash to david to andy to even rook, it’s always so fun to watch it’s such a fun parallelism commentary to explore how demonically evil and vile mega corporations are when they take advantage of workers to obscene degrees in the name of colonialism and profit margins. the way weyland yutani breached their own contracts to quite literally enslave their labor force, then dispose of em when working conditions get dangerous - it’s a tale as old as time, the ruling class of humans have been doing that since the first civilization was settled.

[@petebell6547]

The android was one of the most interesting parts of the movie this time around. The arc between Andy and Rain goes a lot deeper when you realize he's aware and in control of his actions the whole time, even when he has the module in.

[@mizuslayer]

@@petebell6547 i thought he wasn’t in control tho bc twice he tried to resist and couldn’t and one of those times rook even explains that his firmware is updating in real time and won’t allow him to detract from the new primary objective which’s to do what’s best for we-yu

[@petebell6547]

@@mizuslayer It definitely seems like that on the surface, but there's a few key things that he says throughout that give it away. Like when Rain asks him "how could you do that?" in reference to refusing to unlock the door for kay, he says "What, leave someone behind?" There's another part earlier when he tells her something about how he's not a child anymore. And when she comes back for him at the end but he's guarding his neck, until she convinces him to trust her. He does get a new prime directive, but I think he accepts it out of spite for Rain choosing to leave him to die once they arrive at the new planet.

[@petebell6547]

He also apologizes to her after she saves him and takes the chip out.

[@mizuslayer]

@@petebell6547 i'm so sorry I think I might b misunderstanding u bc I dont see how any of that disproves the point that andy wasn't in control lol. he's aware v much yes, which's why he apologizes, but in control I really don't think so

[@michele250000]

Thanks for the explanations. Have me a deeper understanding. I’m a huge aliens fan and I loved this movie.

[@Ducky195]

The marines must have a division of synths that are outfitted for combat against the xenos. Synths with acid resistant armor, targeting systems for various weapons types, synths with enhanced strength, durability, and speed.

[@montgomeryfortenberry]

And why couldnt they develop a helmet to protect against face huggers?

[@autrythegood]

Really enjoyed it, it’s #4 for me. Alien, Aliens, Prometheus and Romulus

[@SunGodSe]

What's up beautiful?

[@tankprohp]

😂😂 I still can't stop laughing when the alien put her back on the ladder when she was falling supposed to eat her

[@DermotBrophy]

was like something out of spaceballs

[@lastnamefirstname850]

Tbf it held it for the facehugger that was shown. Still plot armor tho

[@Nizaammosesguitarist]

I watched the movie before your spoiler 👍🏼

[@cranialheap]

By far the most interesting and engaging of all the KZbin narrative hosts deconstructing all things Alien.

[@alancarias5395]

Excellent analysis! I enjoyed the biblical parallels you laid out to go with the Greek mythos as well. One thing that I noticed also falls in line with the story is the human/alien hybrid is also a nod to Genesis 6:1-5. The mixing of human with angel races caused a breach in the cosmos. The Bible refers to these chaotic hybrids as Nephlim. They were giants, this can explain why the hybrid alien would be bigger and stronger than the normal ones. With the mixing of different genes there’s a natural gigantism as a result. It’s not a perfect comparison but I think it lines up enough to be part of the inspiration for the movie.

[@ThorogoodFilms]

Ah thank you! Great point :) I should have mentioned the Nephilim!

[@eleegn]

Such a beautiful video, its structure, your voice, your train of thought! Great, great work! Subscribed in less than 10 seconds! Looking forward to see future content! Bravo!

[@ThorogoodFilms]

Too kind, thank you so much!

[@bloodzerox20]

My 3rd favorite film in the Alien Franchise 👽

[@Donkehy-puncharello]

A film you haven't seen yet.......

[@RisingShadow11]

🙌

[@ChannelZero1031]

This movie was horrible. Just a 2-hour long trailer for a possible better film in about 10 years.

[@bloodzerox20]

@Donkehy-puncharello I saw it Thursday night in 4DX, & yesterday, I saw it twice already.... 🤡

[@bloodzerox20]

@@ChannelZero1031 Thank fuck your opinion is the minority

[@benoitpiret9065]

Dude awesome video. Love how you set your mood to match the movie. Brilliant. And good narration. Good job!!

[@radosjovanovic]

Holy sh*t dude, THIS is the analysis we all needed! Bravo for this! ✊🏻🤍

[@RealMNeutral31]

Bro you have the best explanation and commentary that I have ever heard on this movie. Kudos. Subscribed.

[@TCMR1200S]

I did enjoy the movie and I remember queueing up to watch the original in 1979, so I've been a huge fan of the whole franchise even the bad ones however firstly I will say this is probably the best video essay I've seen of this movie, it's nice to see an an intelligent analysis, but I think you possibly give too much credit to the filmmakers. Yes I think your points are very valid and I think that is what is happening here and the obvious callbacks to old Testament and mythology are there to see but I'm not convinced the filmmakers understood this completely I think some of this is just accidental. excellent work and I'm sure I will watch this movie many times

[@ThorogoodFilms]

That's very kind, thank you! And yes, I'm not suggesting that these references are necessarily deliberate on the part of the filmmakers. I think some ideas in our storytelling through the ages are so sticky that we can't help but use them again and again. And I think that's because they reveal something about the pattern of reality.

[@imdoneplus]

Great essay. I love finding creators when they’re early on in their career, so I can experience their growth and content as they gain more followers. This certainly got a sub out of me, and you did a great job of really explaining your point. 10/10, no notes!

[@senjux7514]

The movie is the perfect link that has been missing for so long! Especially in the first third, it brilliantly illustrates how the world of Alien, Blade Runner, and others offers endless possibilities for telling exciting stories. Considering that everything started with the theft of a cryo-pod from a Weyland ship, the only question left is: What comes next? Hopefully, we'll finally get a comic adaptation of Earth War and other thrilling titles. The Alien universe is infinitely vast, offering a wealth of possibilities for storytelling. It's a place where professional dreamers craft intricate narratives, and profit-hungry corporations, willing to stop at nothing-even crossing moral and ethical boundaries-pursue their relentless quest for the perfect biological weapon. This rich and complex world is brimming with potential, providing countless opportunities to explore new stories, characters, and conflicts. The blend of corporate greed, scientific ambition, and the unknown makes the Alien universe a fertile ground for creativity and thrilling adventures.

[@rellcal4799]

Really enjoyed your dive into the deeper layers of this movie, liked and subbed keep up the good work Thomas!

[@DPham1]

I also don't think you're reading too much into the movie. Judeo-Christian ideas are so baked into Western civilization and culture that no matter how much we try to divorce ourselves from these ideas and themes, they will continue to persist in our stories on a subconscious level. Fedé Alvarez is from Uruguay, which is predominantly Christian. He most likely grew up in the faith whether he I'd a practicing Christian or not and so I'd expect much of his work to reflect Christian mythology whether he makes a conscious effort or not to incorporate it into his art.

[@absurdh3ro]

Its Christian remove the Judeo

[@drhexagonapus]

Judeo-christian is a strange word, considering how little Jews and Christians actually agree on.

[@ryanhodgson1879]

Goes back alot further than Christianity my friend

[@fluffy1973]

I seldom leave comments on any platform...... this was brilliant, and I mean it in the most literal sense. Kudos!!!

[@ThorogoodFilms]

Ah thanks so much!

[@VegasStrong1]

I’m glad I brought a fireball shot to get me through the hybrid scene

[@benliftin4awhile]

You’re probably an alcoholic.

[@richardbuckley1232]

Fabulous review my friend! 😊

[@ImThePrizeXY]

I'm pretty sure planetary rings don't look like rings if you're right next to them. Their massive objects that you have to be miles from in order to see them

[@ziondragon]

Well you'd be pretty wrong. They look pretty much like they do in this film close up

[@ImThePrizeXY]

@@ziondragon no way. That's a cartoon

[@elow3398]

brilliant study video... I respect your study and am grateful how you tied entertainment to "The Word".... Well done, subscribed

[@misfitlife1866]

I really wanted there to be no survivors and for some evil scientist to have been watching the whole thing. Just studying the alien, like the station was purposely decommissioned and sent there so it would be found, and the people who find it are the first human test subjects for the black goo

[@jordanjohnston655]

When they took off from the mining planet, they showed a man smoking with hisnback turned, watching the shop take off. I thought that was a clue that WY knew about them and were watching from the the distance. I was also hoping the cryo tubes were going to have people in them. Perhaps a company man with his own motives. I also wanted Andy to be the only survivor. Didnt hate romulus, wanted to love it. Average for me

[@mimsimsi]

Another point on the symbolism of water and rain - there are multiple moments throughout the movie where the xenomorph's acid blood raining down is a threat, either to the integrity of the ship or to the characters themselves. Most notably, when the asshole guy dies; he penetrates the alien's metamorphic womb with his weapon attempting to kill it (very subtle imagery there), but the alien proves that it can't be violated that way and that the very attempt makes it more dangerous. Its dripping blood is perhaps the biggest direct threat to Rain throughout the movie, because when the blood reaches the 'ground' - the very edge of the ship - it destroys everything. There's so much womb/birth imagery and symbolism in the movie, I find it so fascinating... The ship's system is MU/TH/UR and all the humans depend on her life support. The cryo pods are the wombs in which they'll be carried to new lives on Yvago, symbolism that's horrifically paid off when Kay births the twisted offspring within her cryo pod. The facehuggers are in trapped synthetic wombs for research, then the 'water breaks' and they're free to wreak reproductive havoc. The alien develops through a womb with a distinctly yonic exterior, and of course it has its classic phallic head. Andy is continuously reborn throughout the movie and only develops into his true self via connecting with and having his personhood acknowledged by his sister (thus defying the legend of Romulus' fratricide), then being placed in a cryo pod and promised rebirth into a new body... the first time he as an android would have ever BEEN in a 'womb'. I think Romulus does justice excellently to the sexual and birthing themes of the whole franchise, and far better than Prometheus did. Granted, it's been a minute since I saw that one, but it seriously left me cold lol. This one left me shaking with excitement.

[@El_Grande_Jefe]

This is why they stopped making Prometheus sequels. Internet Trolls complain about everything. Wish yall just stop hating, dont go to movie. It destroys the studios faith in putting $300 Mill into next movie bc of all NEGATIVITY. Now they make all action movie and some still complain. Bc of u i may never find out how prequels tie to original movie. Prometheus and Covenant were GREAT

[@Fourtune1]

I agree. People complain about everything and I have no clue how they would be satisfied. Apparently they think writers and directors need to be mind readers to create the perfect story for one particular person. That’s why garbage marvel movies make so much money. They appeal to the average iq and have zero depth.

[@El_Grande_Jefe]

@@Fourtune1 If you look at some of the Prometheus explained videos on here you realize just how deep these movies are. Yeah these people just want action violence and car crashes and explosions. Mindless movies. These last two movies Prometheus and covenant are very deep and rich in ideas and thought. I've watched the videos and listen to people talk about it I've read about it I've seen interviews with Ridley Scott talking about it and this guy is very smart knows exactly what he's doing.

[@El_Grande_Jefe]

@@Fourtune1 there's a bunch of trolls and negative people and children that are second guessing him.

[@El_Grande_Jefe]

@@Fourtune1 does the guy on KZbin called KROFT that analyzes movies very good. Gets into things that are in books, deleted scenes anything and everything.

[@rogerpowers3891]

You shouldn’t have to spend $300 million to make a good movie… Prometheus and Covenant were NOT good movies.

[@ronlyons7455]

I just subscribed to this channel based upon the nuanced references of the verbal essay. Fine explication. Good job

[@johanandersson8646]

How did they have frozen facehuggers on the station? They found a xenomorph in space and made facehuggers from black goo?

[@willferrellssweetnips]

I assumed they landed on LV-426 and retrieved the face huggers from the derelict ship after retrieving the Xenomorph. Since they found the ruins of the nostromo, it doesn't seem like a stretch that they would intercept the S.O.S. from LV-426.

[@Fourtune1]

Yes. In Covenant David sends the data back to the corporation. He also has multiple embryos frozen.

[@johanandersson8646]

@Fourtune1 That is plausible, but to me, it felt the movie made a big point of finding a xenomorph floating in space. Guess they had the know-how but lacked raw material..?

[@itsjinbeeitchpmp]

Seems like they were printing facehuggers

[@Glocktologist]

@johanandersson8646 if the company wanted raw material they could have fetches as much as they like from LV-426. They knew where the planetoid was and what to find there. Why waste 20 years looking for a needle in the mother of all hay stacks?

[@allthingslostonearthoracle4055]

Very good analysis. I would add that just as Romulus and Remus, they fed themselves by being breastfed by another species, their mother was a wolf, while in the last bit of the story, the element of breastfeeding is brought back, just like in the Romulus story, which are always depicted as two children being fed by a wolf, this image is also found inside the ship when the computer voice is explaining the division of the facilities between Romulus and Remus. Good job! I also managed to discover new things through your video. Thank you! ❤

[@doctoronishispsychosislab1474]

The deep fake Ash. was a great idea and did not need any copying of Dialog. also the entire cinima sighed in unison with the "get away from her you"

[@ajb7615]

This was a very intriguing and well-done video. I haven't seen the film yet, but now I definitely want to! Great job!! ❤😊

[@jukasipo]

The movie had potential but the characters are so bad, childish dialogue and nonsensical actions that don't make any sense but other than that it was ok.

[@CIA-m1v]

Excellent and insightful video.

[@VegasStrong1]

Spoiler : the movie was good until the hybrid . I was expecting the birth of the queen and explore the nature of its origin . Instead we a get a weird hybrid that looks like a xenoporphm playing basketball in space jam . This was its downfall from the perfect movie .

[@ouranos0101]

The hybrid was the best part. True horror.

[@jeebsy718]

yeah i thought the hybrid was awful. like ridiculously awful in both design and execution. and totally unnecessary. when you so much of monster so quickly, it usually ruins it (see why the first alien worked so well). people complain about how quickly the xeno grows but this thing got to about 10ft tall in less than a minute. better ending for me would be for her to go in cryosleep with the creature/alien dna still inside her and the 'what's going to happen when they make it home' left hanging.

[@clownofthetimes6727]

The hybrid looked like a non blue Na`vi from Pandora.

[@orinnoco2919]

The hybrid twist and final act of the movie was for me the most horrifying experience. We have seen so much of the XX121 that we are no longer afraid of them, knowing what to expect from them and what they are capable of!

[@jayspencer4033]

@@jeebsy718I could have liked that too however just like the rest of the movie was paying homage to other alien movies this was paying homage to Prometheus and resurrection so your enjoyment of that monster depends if you liked the newborn and other movies takes which I don’t mind so it didn’t bother me

[@michaelgarfield]

Good work on the themes! I will definitely cite this when I do my own exegesis on Future Fossils. Rare to find someone who has such a strong grasp of symbolism doing reviews.

[@ThorogoodFilms]

Ah thank you! That's very kind!

[@nicholasbennett7367]

The last 20 minutes were trash 😢 ruined a good movie

[@Kemallovic]

Agreed

[@Mr79Shahin]

I love the Xenomoroh creation but it’s hardly the “perfect organism” when you could just go and stomp on it as it bursts out from the chest as a vulnerable baby 🤣

[@TheChadWork2001]

This film is terrible, just like the Prometheus film. Characters are shallow, unbelievable, no explanation why they are the only ones who know about the ship, it’s simple minded writing and it’s obvious. Also there is a major theme of continual DEI and string feminist characters who aren’t believable and then to finish it off, it copies off of Alien, leaving one female survivor. Ridiculous story.

[@ziondragon]

Troll lol

[@stevencaples8268]

Get a life

[@Fibonacci620]

Amazing video. Will subscribe

[@shannonjacobs3635]

This film was nothing but fan service.

[@lilSchmoob]

Is that a bad thing? 🤔

[@JimmyxBonez]

Everything went right over your head 😂

[@brandonmccray8419]

It’s okay to enjoy things, Shannon…

[@jordanjohnston655]

I felt the same way, sadly

[@jordanjohnston655]

​@brandonmccray8419 its okay to not either, Brandon

[@annabella37]

One of the better analysis by a KZbinr. Thank you for being fair! Absolutely enjoyed this movie and all the little call backs to the other films in the series.

[@anthonyml7]

Kay injecting herself made no sense and is where the movie totally fell off for me

[@23bakura]

She was bleeding to death and worried about her baby she thaut it would heal her whitch it did but also mutated her body and her baby

[@Fourtune1]

Did you not watch the movie? They explain that the black goo helps your metabolism and regenerate cells. That’s what the video of the rat showed. David suggested it. Kay is later bleeding to death and wants to live so she injects herself hoping it keeps her alive.

[@FloMaxster]

Dude go rewatch the movie 💀

[@anthonyml7]

@@Fourtune1 But how would she have known that?

[@anthonyml7]

@@23bakura But how did she know it was a syringe / what was even in the syringe?

[@TheMightyCookieShow]

As a narrative filmmaker myself, and heres your peak behind the curtain. I am always fasinated by the deeper meaning folks find in my film work. Me, im pretty straight forward. I want you to be entertained by my work. That does NOT leave me a lot of time to put well thought through deeper meanings into my work thats nearly impossible to detect.

[@ZoneTelevision]

Sorry but this movie was subpar and predictable on many levels (for me). The plot was like watching another installation of the "scream" franchise or Maze Runner. No actor in this movie had any real charisma either save maybe the Andriod played by David Jonsson. The prop and character homages to the original ALIEN movie where a tad disingenuous and insincere afterthoughts in my opinion. IT seemed like the movie was "trying to hard" to capture what the original had done. Denis Villenueve would have done the film far more justice. The plot seemed too rushed and the cinematography was meh so so. I was perhaps one of the few disappointed in this film. That said - the Biblical analogies while thoroughly introspective offering a glimpse of the Biblical paradigms misses a few spiritual key components. The "snake" which later morphs into a dragon by the time the new testament gets underway is meant to depict the sum total of evil and carnality which undermines humanity. And the reference to the "woman" is not Jesus - the reference is to the Apocalyptic Woman in Revelation who goes to war against the dragon.

[@moviereelnews]

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[@ShahzDaneil]

Did somebody peed in your cereal? If they havent, let them.

[@zzygyy]

I found it entertaining. 7/10.

[@andrewlindell8626]

You are in the minority

[@Claudyafuller]

It’s definitely wasn’t bad… lol to each their own I went alone to see it and I enjoyed it

[@abcmyninja]

I love the way you explained this beautifully done movie. You're better than the popular movie review channels in my opinion.

[@jpg6113]

Have not seen this great but your commentary makes it way better than what i have read about it

[@chrisforbrook2555]

I really enjoyed your approach in explaining this movie. Thanks.

[@orinnoco2919]

thank you for the wonderful analysis and exploring the deeper meaning of the movie. I cannot agree more with you that there are definitely "religious" overtone that's subtly and cleverly woven into the storyline. It was definitely re-telling and foretelling what happened to humanity in the past with the story of the fallen angels and Nephilim and giants, "heroes" of renown. The movie also explores what ultimately might transcend albeit in a very terrifying manner the re-combining of genes of humans and those "fallen" serpent beings from the cosmos.

[@joshmciver4847]

Great video. First I've ever watched from you... Will keep an eye on your channel. Thanks!

[@Draw2quit]

The opening scenes on the colony were amazing. Apart from the excellent anniversary shorts, we've never really seen the pov from the average person working for "the company". I would watch a movie or show set on a WY colony that didn't have any Aliens in it.

[@ah5308]

Thank you for your insights. Fun fact, Adam and Eve did not have navals as portrayed in post classical art. Early century art does not show them with belly buttons.

[@Nando_lifts2021]

great movie, refreshing Alien addition. Nicely done; deep breakdown, thanks!

[@mikesnowleopard]

im curious as to how the company recovered compound z01 leading to alien 4.

[@DanMosqueda]

Excellent analysis. I enjoyed the film very much. I rewatched everything prior to seeing it in the Alien universe including the Predator movies - all of them. This enriched the experience by being able to piece together a lot of the little details. This film helps establish Prometheus even more firmly as the anchor of the enterprise. Covenant also has very similar themes when you think about it. It’s of course noteworthy that the both the protagonist and the baddies are mostly women. Strong women.

[@robprice8509]

This is the best and most thought-provoking analysis of this film that I have seen so far. Well done, Thomas!

[@mattyj4852]

loved this! Nice work

[@APR944]

Brilliant analysis. Thank you 🙏🏽

[@3putt548]

Fascinating thoughts! Well done!

[@ThorogoodFilms]

Thanks!

[@Kobimus1]

The name Romulus really gets me wondering what Ridley Scott had in mind for the Raised by Wolves/Alien world....

[@yoghass]

Cool analysis!

[@peteraustin4295]

Very interesting analysis, bravo. And I learned some stuff from the Bible!

[@kriskoppy2753]

Enjoyed the movie. Some frustrations like the contrast theme of escaping everything in the nick of time. Also, it was difficult to understand some of the dialogue early on due to accents and muffled sound.

[@javieririzarry2287]

I can just say... great analysis of the movie and Bible and Mythology. You did a great work.

[@Rich-hm9ux]

Beautiful analysis, Sir!

[@simonepaglia8]

Great video. Amazing

[@chapmanspring1908]

I beleive this explanation was well thought out and delivered.

[@jonathany6359]

What a surreal and cerebral film breakdown! Thank you!

[@Soupcan13]

fantastic breakdown, narration and incite! Instant follow, I look forward to seeing where your channel goes!

[@ThorogoodFilms]

That's very kind, thank you very much!

[@damianstarks3338]

Great in depth video on this new Alien movie just subscribed to your channel by the way

[@Tyrant96]

Great movie the visuals are absolutely stunning! Which was a big part of the originals... My father who was born in 1970 was blown away too...Even by the cameo..he said my name during the scene and looked at me a couple seats down before they showed his face ..we both knew! Also my 21 yr old lil sister was on edge and hiding her face...Great movie

[@andrewverrett568]

They have a whole other film with what happened on romulus before this film. It would be great to see the scientists doing experiments and then things going wrong and watching them all die. That hallway scene in romulus with all those people dead in the alien cocoons. Would be awesome to see that all play out

[@justinwilson5006]

Great Vid! Love the connections you made to the Bible.

[@paristhalheimer]

I loved your perspective on this film. Thank you.