Ron Miscavige Says Son Changed After Joining Scientology: Part 2

[@ferdinandries7232]

It’s pretty telling that Scientology sent a lawyer to tell their lies as opposed to showing up themselves.

[@nonbiz1520]

Still doing it!

[@supramby]

You don’t think the lawyer is a Scientologist

[@TheProofLady]

@@suprambyShe’s not. While they do have Scientology lawyers, she is not one of them. She’s just soulless and likes a good pay day.

[@bocouch9420]

this tax exempt shit needs to end.

[@JerodimusPrime]

The tax exempt will never end because the truth is that the IRS is now running the Church of Scientology. All the copyright material of Scientology is owned by a secretive organization called the Church of Spiritual Technology (CST). The comity that runs CST is formed of several lawyers that where lead members of the IRS team that was tasked with bringing Scientology down in the early 80's. CST is not a religious organization and can be taxed by the IRS. CST legally pays the IRS taxes and basically sells the copyright material to the Church of Scientology on premium a fee that they have to pay or they will lose the right to sell or use all the source material created by L. Ron Hubbard. The end result is that Scientology is being stealth taxed through an umbrella organization that's run by the IRS. If the CoS tries to not pay CST they will legally ban them from using any source material associated with Scientology, so the CoS has no option but to pay up. It's very cleaver cold war style stuff the IRS used to infiltrate and control the religion before it became a threat. This is why the US government won't do a thing to stop Scientology despite the fact that they know it a cult and is doing illegal shit to its members. Scientology makes the US government money. sc-i-r-s-ology.freiescientologen.de/contents/howirsruns.html en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Spiritual_Technology sc-i-r-s-ology.freiescientologen.de/

[@ONEMANUNITX]

Scientology is tiny and boring, and full of deluded people , choosing to waste their lives living a delusion. and let him. More people identify as Jedi than Scientologist. Here in the UK, its never spoken about, no one cares, its a tiny speck to us. ISIS is spoken about more, and even they are falling.

[@JerodimusPrime]

Trump has given all churches more power and autonomy, that's why in 2016 all Scientologist voted republican and want Trump as president. Do some research and find out for yourself. Scientologist of 2016 are republican.

[@NxDoyle]

JerodimusPrime​ Even taking that at face value, it's really not a big deal, votes-wise. Scientology is a very rich cult, but it is hemorrhaging members. Of course, I am going to take it at face value, because I can tell that getting involved in a dialogue would do neither of us any good.

[@pleasuretokill]

YES!! for ALL cults/religions

[@alexdarren8432]

How are these people not in jail? It's astounding....

[@walidzein1]

Alex Darren they own the government

[@benny5020]

Money talks

[@harrietharlow9929]

@@benny5020 And nonsense walks.

[@tedholzer1468]

same reason congress is not in jail for inside trading pure evil

[@marcvandervelsen]

What if they never did anything wrong? I'm a proud Scientologist.

[@aninayouroukova3832]

Charles Manson has called Scientology crazy.... make of that what you will.

[@chrissytina6379]

Lol 🤣🤣😆 that is saying alot

[@srso4660]

Copied comment from part 1 but you gotta get those likes lol

[@theredneckboys7701]

That kind of asthma is called sport induced asthma and I had until the 6th grade and all of a sudden when I started playing jv football it went away in other words I out grew it

[@bigspoon7984]

Scientology is the very thing L. Ron Hubbard wrote about. It is pure science fiction.

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

Just fiction. Science fiction has higher standards and more nuansed

[@b.j.stoner9065]

I will never understand how intelligent adults actually fall for this BS called Scientology. You would think just the idea of signing a 'Billion Year Contract' might at least give them pause! (But evidently not...signing a 30 year mortgage is enough of a commitment for most of us)

[@ghytgb]

b.j. stoner there’s a sucker born every day. Cult leaders know this and it is why they keep popping up.

[@ghytgb]

Percy Elgar it’s sad that it’s allowed to happen. How can you just make up a religion and who says it’s legit?! Friggin nuts!

[@Gapeaches77able]

Right!

[@johnnygoesfast9397]

The same way ppl believe someone walked on water...Noah's arc, talking snakes, and prophecies are just as crazy; more than 60% of the world believes that nonsense too...

[@johnnygoesfast9397]

@@ghytgb i love that comment ! Or how 'bout "if you can't figure out what's being sold: it's YOU!

[@david88nash]

the lawyer looks like she lying and she scared of what to say

[@Colin12475]

"THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM. You can write that down in your book in great big letters. The only way you can control anybody is to lie to them." -L. Ron Hubbard

[@KimGrayLovesBooks]

That Lawyer looks drunk and like she is almost struggling to stay alert. Her eyes flutter every time I feel she lies too. Annoying!

[@Student____2025__1]

No she doesn’t.

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

Or she's just lying through her teeth and is very smug about it and it shows

[@prissolivia4932]

Scientology reminds me of North Korea: Bases with empty buildings, a tyrant as its leader, brainwashed members, members who are basically slaves, very few members live in suitable living conditions, members can't have regular internet, etc.

[@moopr]

Excellent comparison.

[@waynephillips1538]

Brilliant analogy. Miscarriage has a better haircut though.

[@vktesla]

I dont see it as that at all. It honestly seems likea self-betterment program that charges a lot for its services and ideas.

[@moopr]

Cake AKA: A cult. And one whose benefits probably don't surpass any others. Their abuses of power through various means have been documented. Plus their harassment of anyone that criticizes them. Ask, why would a legit organization, church, etc. whatever, use harassment rather than rational rebuttal or debate?

[@bsa2506]

Priss Olivia dumb bitch but you believe in Adam and eve and moahs ark and a white JESUS!!!LMAO!!!

[@lionessmummy4418]

"the kid" looks a little crazy. To me, it's all in his eyes. He is the craziest man I've ever seen.

[@Vex920]

This woman is going to be like Mike Rinder in 10 years looking back on this interview saying "Everything I was saying was a total lie to protect the church!"

[@toph8298]

No chance, she’s not even a Scientologist. Their latest spokesperson isn’t even a member of the cult.

[@listrahtes]

Dont underestimate the non existent morals of öaywers. Most prostitute themselves for anything.

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

No, she won't, she's just a lawyer "protecting" her client aka lying for them. She knows she lies, she just doesn't care, she's on the roll.

[@caitlyn_ambrose]

He's is a power and money hungry lunatic, don't know how this guy hasn't been arrested yet.

[@guiyerod444]

Its amazing how the BILLION year contract is not enough for people to think "Hmmmm I don't know bro that sounds like pretty drastic to me"

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

Many of them came into the cult as impressionable kids

[@ebiggar]

David is only 5 feet all. He's shorter than his boyfriend Tom Cruise

[@Workinggirlhomestead]

LMAO good one

[@ghytgb]

Emery Biggar they can still do 69

[@dmvbawse4265]

Remember when Tom used to wear high heels when he was with Katy holmes

[@ghytgb]

BasedBawse DaGawd you gotta see that nut job Cruise when he invited Oprah over his house. It was set up so he could redeem himself from jumping on her couch. He and Katey act like they’re on ecstasy but she has to quickly leave (because she’s an SP) to pick up the kids! As if they couldn’t arrange to have someone to watch the kids or have the kids there?! Look it up. He’s whacked the fuck out!

[@dmvbawse4265]

ghytgb your a god just watched it lmao dude it’s so clear he’s trying to redeem himself

[@LoveSaidNo1]

if this church harmed people after leaving or stalked them why isn't this Church investigated

[@moopr]

Ask Google. The FBI has investigated them. Other agencies too, probably. Their power wielded through lawyers makes them impenetrable so far. There's a ton to read about this "church."

[@Andrea-df8js]

That scientology lawyer looks like she's high as a kite !

[@thethrowawaythatstayed7055]

andrea michelle prob traumatised. lol

[@on_my_own_two_feet]

I don't believe a word she says. In fact, I don't believe a word any of them says. Look in their hollow eyes and you'll see mania inside. It's terrifying.

[@mchlclark]

Yes! I noticed the same thing. I'm pretty sure she was drunk. Maybe some pills too. But definitely drunk.

[@doctorfritznoel]

Yep, glazed look

[@faresrizk7725]

Another scientologist interviewed looking the same way, after leaving he said: enforced sleep-deprivation.

[@Darkest_Soul_187]

Where the fuck is part 3?

[@woodystemms3799]

That enormous celebration ... with the waving flags ... Look familiar? Where have you seen this before? ... North Korea? ... Communist China? ... Russia ... ?

[@jondunham6470]

How many Scientologists does it take to change a light bulb? Two. One to source an expensive new bulb with weaknesses and another to tell the world how shit the old bulb was.

[@CamiMack5616]

Tom Cruise's role in A Few Good Men (Navy) makes more sense now. He had to have it, and he got it, to please the spirit of L. Ron Hubbard.

[@MrMungin81]

No matter what Jesus now and will forever be King of kings and Lord of lords

[@robert112uk]

Amen Maurice, He also saved me from falling into this trap. I nearly fell for this because selfishly I wanted a perfect memory and super high IQ. What a pack of vipers and blind people this is. I imagine it's very hard to escape from this cult, especially if you've spent 25 or 30 years in it. People if you want to be saved realise there is no real happiness in this world. THe ONLY chance for salvation is to carry your cross in the Holy Roman Catholic Church. I speak the Truth

[@moopr]

I have found real happiness in this world. If anyone is interested, let me know. Although I can't and won't promise you that anything I say will work for you the same way.

[@80schild31]

Fuck your Jesus

[@Slypooch]

jesus is also a cult

[@elonmusk8711]

Apparently, you don't even understand the religion (cult) you subscribe to. The bible says Jesus is the son of god, not god himself. Then again... Who cares? Jesus Christ is a fabrication. He does not exist and never has. It will never cease to amaze me that people think the magical bearded man in the sky is somehow any less batshit crazy than what Scientologists believe. All religions are cults. Period.

[@ayeright1131]

David's condition has been medically diagnosed, it's called Small "man" syndrome.

[@carriehayes260]

I can't believe seemingly intelligent people believe this BS.

[@Maximillionaire666]

Am I the only one who sees a movie about this story with Christian Bale playing David Miscavige? It’d be like American Psycho only worse because this prick is actually a real fucking person.

[@delib636]

It's a CULT

[@cyninbend]

Blink blink blink, Yingling. Blink blink blink. It's the clearest ;) way to know when a person is lying. Blink blink blink.

[@Kha0s8]

+cyninbend Also she looks down and to the right when fabricating information. Classic tell.

[@fairlind]

I agree she's lying, but a blink can mean several things. Nervousness, fear, dry eyes, etc.

[@fairlind]

I think you're right about that particular tell.

[@deesee3622]

lying lawyer, shocking!

[@KayS471]

that dude is evil

[@marcust478]

1 billion year contract? LOL what...WTF!?

[@randyrysdale852]

the celebration looks like something out of north korea

[@mwalker150]

He must be so sad he created a monster

[@chrishall7915]

No mention of Shelley ...

[@stephiiiless]

Chris Hall right....

[@louise-yo7kz]

Shucks

[@guirre30]

CRAZINESS THESE PEOPLE MUST BE IN JAIL REALLY DANGER AND INHUMAN ALL THE DAMAGE THEY DO TO PEOPLE. I N S A N E !!!!!

[@johnpothews3795]

In order for the Church of Scientology to achieve tax-exempt status I imagine when the break in occurred there had to be some documents taken that would have put the government in a position to give Scientology their status under duress or be blackmailed

[@tanawilliams7498]

Actually what happened when the IRS tried to revoke their tax exempt status they got tied up in courts for something like 10 years and the IRS got to the point where they felt that what they were spending was not worth the effort. This is what Scientology does if you try to take them to court they have billions of dollars to pay lawyers and you don't

[@usernamemaybe]

these men and their thirst for power...serious psychological issues

[@brianwalsh1401]

Narcissists and sociopaths are ruthless in their efforts to gain power and control. Relationships mean nothing to them other than how they can use that person.

[@abten2592]

All about money 💵💵💵💵

[@grantpurdy4137]

They probably gave the kid a salbutamol inhaler.........

[@leandabee]

I don't condone scientology behaviour, but Remember these kids were brought up in this by the parents, so they know nothing else. Even though Ron got out, it's still his fault this has happened. Obviously something went on in that room (auditing)that David went into at age 9 and it damaged his 9 year brain forever. 🤷‍♀️

[@tracesprite6078]

Ron Miscavige's book Ruthless is very interesting. You can see how David deteriorated.

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

Agree. It's his responsibility, he let it all happen with one wrong choice.

[@johnstory2996]

It's just a real estate acquisition and holdings company. That's why the tax exemption is so vital to them. If they paid tax like every other company, they wouldn't be able to compete. They don't have the talent.

[@dashobie]

What are all those bars,awards for fighting himself and winning.

[@hippie564]

I know exactly what these ppl went through... I was in a place like that for nearly 3 years. In my case the parents were the ones who were brainwashed and the kids were the ones who were tortured...

[@alinaisac3255]

The Messiah the Christ is the only way to Wisdom and guidance to truth and Life

[@SethMacLeod95]

Amen. It saddens me to see the amount of people being duped to hell from this cult

[@kiflizen]

USA how were they able to convince your government to be recognized as a legitimate religion and be tax exempt?! That made them even stronger financially and increase their clout.

[@jaxwild2973]

Scientology had private detectives follow top irs executives to get dirt on them. Then the irs was happy to "negotiate" the tax free status. This is documented.

[@intoodeepstl314]

Why didn’t the founder qualify for rehire? He signed a contractual agreement for billion years.

[@psychodrummer26]

This woman blinks every time she lies

[@Tertia_Optio]

When he takes his "undersized, asthmatic son" into scientology.. Perfectly stated.

[@JesusLopez-tb7ni]

People dnt understand, children r the future. So get people wen they just children, n that's the "future" of the church, world, n everything. They say,..." Get them wen they're young"

[@WarriorPride65]

I hate how ABC News scatters their stories all over KZbin, making it extremely hard to find later parts of the story

[@Mondo_mog]

Scattering them all over YT? How exactly do u think YT works? the YT algorithms do that not ABC.

[@WarriorPride65]

@@Mondo_mog They could simply think other parts in the description.

[@tauist]

Does anyone else see that this Church is VERY MUCH like North Korea.

[@anthonylewis62]

these people are so messed up , its really sad that intellgent people could be conned so easy, it is truely sad, there is nothing behind their beliefs, no one to count on, but empty air. that is the true thing with a cult, theres nothing there. ugh, These people need Jesus badly! they are so lost

[@edithali1263]

The Scientology’s lawyer is so not reeling the truth. lol at the ways she seems to look to the left when she answers a question.

[@Frankygoestohull1]

David miscavidge is 5ft 4 in. Napoleon complex much?

[@vamp8903]

He is a fanatic but if you look at his face there's something very wrong !

[@sanjeevkumar616]

"Your guy's name is Ron.... has a driver license and social security number" -Bill Burr

[@atom6999]

Old man sounded like he had a guilty conscious so he joined

[@dashobie]

Why does that wimp CEO of Scientology wear a Navy Uniform was it Dress up Play Day ?

[@odalisamaya5093]

Where is part 3 to this?

[@joshuacovert5911]

Funny how you never see any scientology in comment sections defending

[@theredneckboys7701]

And it's bull crap that they are tax exempt when they are charging there members hundreds of thousands of $ over a life time and don't have to pay taxes. I'm going to claim that me and my family are a religion group so I don't have to pay taxes

[@gregandrews6033]

Its about exposing scientology abuses, not beliefs strange thow they may be.

[@MrYork2011]

It is a true story about a false religion, ms yingling

[@sofysophia]

Those events with people waving flags and marching look like a joke

[@SherrySaundersNC]

Part 3 is missing ... guess they got it off u tube

[@fairlind]

True, but the whole interview is here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5PUf6qFr66kkLs

[@robothunter1035]

Billion year contract! Where do I sign?!

[@JSmith-nu4bl]

Imagine having this guy as father

[@Melissa0774]

Is there a part 3?

[@bsa2506]

Thats his fault!! He allowed it!

[@crispybacon5193]

follow the money

[@JerodimusPrime]

The US government secretly runs the Church of Scientology through the IRS. They infiltrated and effectivly took over the organization in the early 80's. If you follow the money it will lead you back to the Church of Spiritual Technology CST. Read the links below to see the truth about Scientology and the government. sc-i-r-s-ology.freiescientologen.de/contents/howirsruns.html en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Spiritual_Technology sc-i-r-s-ology.freiescientologen.de/

[@C0mm0nS3ns3]

No it doesnt your information is invalid. The IRS was infiltrated but this information was way off

[@JerodimusPrime]

Common Sense Well look who runs the CST. It's set-up and structured by the man responsible for gathering information and prosecuting the Church of Scientology, Meade Emory. sc-i-r-s-ology.freiescientologen.de/founder.html en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Spiritual_Technology#Structure RTC has to turn over 90% of it's profit to CST, CST has complete control of all of L. Ron Hubbard's copyrighted material and CST can buy back the trademarks and rights of RTC for $100 at any time they choose to. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Spiritual_Technology#Licensing_of_trademarks_and_service_marks In other words CST owns Scientology FACT. sc-i-r-s-ology.freiescientologen.de/contents/howirsruns.html

[@theguitarczar]

you hit that one out! "follow the money" is how to prove every bad thing that has been done by all groups of people since there has been commerce.

[@JerodimusPrime]

theguitarczar The sad thing is that the US government will let $cientology literally get away with murder because they're making millions of dollar out of the "religion." That's why to this day RTC leader, David Miscavige, still hasn't been subpoena for a RICO even though the his crimes are well known and documented.

[@jusbeeb4416]

Damn the sea org has ninjas. So instead of convincing people to buy his sci-fi books, he brainwashed them. Genius

[@steverodriguez4871]

How dare he dress in that uniform stolen valor

[@jboepro1]

Let’s leave Moses out of this please😂

[@brianwalsh1401]

Both just fairy tales from 2 different belief systems, except one of those belief systems is a dangerous cult.

[@jboepro1]

@@brianwalsh1401 are you here from Reddit?

[@brianwalsh1401]

@@jboepro1 No.

[@steventaylor3884]

@@brianwalsh1401 both!

[@Proudathiest1]

I don’t support any religions. I actually think they are all dangerous. But Scientology is a head and shoulders above the rest. When you watch documentary after documentary of all of these people that were former Scientologists and the things they’ve had to go through they can’t speak to their loved ones sometimes it’s their children that are still in the church its disgusting.

[@mayratumanov4446]

so people believe science fiction.. speachless. ..

[@jacobolson9650]

Dear lord, have any of you seen Battlefield Earth? It is so bad it’s honestly hilarious. Apparently it was so bad, that Leah Remini wrote out an official Scientology report against John Travolta 😂😂😂

[@steventaylor3884]

I read the book in 1985 and really enjoyed it,I never even knew anything about Scientology or Hubbard.

[@vinnycaruso8954]

Every mention Of Christianity is negative. That out to tell you something about they're intentions

[@jaid2383]

Vinny Caruso All religions are negative.

[@nameofthegame9664]

Jai D Indeed!

[@catherineramos8371]

Good job IRS :/

[@ssrs0pus]

There are 2 things in common with Scientology and the US military….wogs?… I was deemed “shellback” by King Neptune by merely transversing south of the equator. Seeing Andromeda… So I was in front of this building, eyes on me. Leaning forward to read the fine print. Not knowing of the 3” rise of this teegackian sidewalk, I fell forward, to the ground. You saw it. No came out. So I left. Time keeps a tickin…

I love how David doesn't say oh the government now recognizes us as a religion but instead says oh we are tax exempted! How stupid of the government to give this cult a tax exemption! Idiots are everywhere!

[@jaxwild2973]

Scientology had private detectives follow top irs executives to get dirt on them. Then the irs was happy to "negotiate" the tax free status. This is documented.

[@einezcrespo2107]

I watched Battlefield Earth. I wished I asked for my money back. It was soooo bad.

[@leeohmoon231]

No religion should be based on human being, we should now better (knowing how week and stupid we truly are) and so was Ron

[@moopr]

"Elrond" is the name of the high Elf in Lord of the Rings.

[@leeohmoon231]

HAHAHHA Oh my :D

[@roughcollies1811]

Only in America can a crappy sci-fi writer create a crappy cult.

[@santinojozefmiller7721]

Ron reminds me of Kirk Douglas.

[@russellscala5930]

Utter nonsense. One purpose... Money.

[@mvela1235]

I'm pretty sure David was LRH special boy, if you get what I mean lmfao

[@SethMacLeod95]

👀

[@cece82gemini27]

The founder is a scientific author lol. And people believe in his crap lol. I wonder what would happen if the harry potter writer made a cult...oh, I mean church 🤔🤷🏽‍♀️ I'm thinking of starting a church. There's good money in it. Ijs

[@raelynosborne9987]

Where’s the next part.

[@TheBanglesEternalFlame-lm9rf]

Now I know who Xi Jinping modeled himself after.

[@niametladak]

Why he is referring it as a religion?? Religion something like praying to God by different religion, how do you call Scientology a religion???????????????

[@DonutsReview]

Wow all these adults are just playing Dungeons and Dragons. Imagine how many other dumb secret society there are.

[@nathanrussell-raby5460]

where is part 3

[@geraldleclair3135]

I think the Smurfs should start a church.

[@cheekzcmalone5843]

there's alot more public info on it now and a ton more members who have left all with the same terrible stories so I would say they are more likely to be at threat now than thwybhave ever been. All of the protests and the church taking on anonymous official wouldn't of helped them as the publicity and protests against the church that came from the church picking the wrong battle with anonymous official hurt there reputation alot nd the numbers are dwindling whatever the numbers were they certainly ain't those anymore, a shit load of ex members woke up and smelt the coffee and left to many people who have left all report the same cult like practice. A church who hunts down it's ex members and sends people to intimidate them lol sounds more like a dictatorship/cult.

[@richardkristensen9528]

What a load of crap.........

[@bocouch9420]

creepy shit ...

[@BD-rv6rm]

Why is it a South African sounding lady Lois, who helps to advance Davids ascent to the top. Our country is beautiful, but Lord can will out some odd people like Lois and now Elon.

[@leeohmoon231]

attempted rape on an underage girl, that`s when I stop listening to this men!!!!! still dislike Scientology-both not credible

[@isabellstjernstrom1762]

Omg:'( What am I gonna do?

[@piccadilly261]

We all know they're as dodgy as ?

[@jonq8714]

Religion is so dumb.