How Flat is Flat? - Season 2: Episode 61

[@roperbrad93]

Great podcast Ron thanks for the info always a pleasure but I'm going to ask again please do a video dedicated to the 264 win mag 😂 please

[@jefferywilliams7687]

I have been varmint calling for 55 years and paid my way thru high school and the University doing so. Up close on pelts that easily tear, try a 22 WMR with CCI FMJ. Shoot them in the head. 22 hornet and 222 Remington work well. After experimenting with many different loads, cartridges, etc. one of the best I found was a converted 6X47 Remington (6mm-222 Remington Magnum) Bench gun. The rifle has a 1:12 twist and is a sub 1/10 MOA rifle. However, shooting 80 grain Hornady FMJ (flat point) at about 2,500 FPS performs outstanding. Still under 1/2 MOA. Easy to make eye and head shots out to 200 yards, but the low velocity combined with the bullet that hits and travel straight does not tear up the pelt. I would think a 6 PPC, 6 BR, would work very well provided the velocity is kept down. If you are killing for bounty, I like 22-250, 220 Swift, 243 Win, 6mm Remington, 240 Weatherby Magnum, 25-06, 257 Weatherby Magnum, & 264 Winchester Magnum. Once calling for Varmint and called a Mountain Lion in. Thank goodness we had a bigger rifle that day.

[@elgato9534]

Ron you are the single most provider of real world info I've ever seen. Best of the best 👌. true experience

[@RonSpomerOutdoors]

Many thanks, Elgato. I try my best to live up to that, but no promises!

[@denniswilkins4514]

I have commented about the 308 many times on various pod casts. I was discussing the 308 with a friend who was a 3 time Texas State high power champion. In our conversation I told him that a 308 dropped a lot at long range. He looked at me and said " Yeah but it drops in the same spot every time". I load my hunting rifle with 30 30 170 grain flat nose at a safe reduced load because of the faster twist of the model 70. The thin jacket of the 30 30 bullet in a 308 case at 30 30 velocity simply bowls a white tail deer over plus the accuracy is phenomenal. The 308 to me is the best all around cartridge ever .

[@jasonstinson1767]

When i was a new hunter and shooter twenty five years ago, or so, unquestionably the best for the money gun was a shotgun with a slug barrel. You could hunt squirrels and rabbits with bird shot, turkeys with high brass and extra full choke and reasonably ranged deer with a rifled slug barrel. In the knobs of Ky it is a reasonable decision. With guns such as the Thompson Center Encore and the multitude of uppers for AR style rifles do you feel the ol shotgun holds the same versatility value and appeal as in years past? Feel free to use my name if this question is deemed podcast worthy.

[@HighMaintenancePS]

What a pleasure it is to listen to Ron dispense His prodigious information. He is such a competent teacher and such an easy and fun of the best style. The .204 ruger is an amazing little cartridge.

[@mockingpirate7659]

Still see the big birds around here. Few enough though that I have not hunted them since the early 90's. Always cool to hear those thunder chickens every spring.

[@bradh8391]

Really interesting information about the prairie chickens, and I had never heard of the heath hens either, learned something new!

[@texastomsshavingtips6359]

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[@coyotiess]

There is an area near Newton IL. It is a non- hunting area for prairie chickens preserve FYI!!

[@warrenlathrop6296]

"That turkey is still out there" LOL Have more then a few of them myself. 30-06 genealogy? you forgot grand dad 7x57. As nice as a Lazar range finder is I don't want to be fooling with it as the buck or bear of my dreams steps off into the pucker brush. Better to have your rifle sighted in for it's MPBR and have practiced with it to know where it is too far for your set up and abilities.

[@HarrisonCountyStudio]

‘Practice’…. I’ve been hunting white tail for 40+ years. I’ve practiced more in the last 15 years with my children than the previous 25. Besides spending time with my family, the ‘out of season’ shooting has taught me much about myself and my rifle. My boys have all become proficient, but my daughter.. she may be a sharp shooter.

[@elgato9534]

killed all my deer with a 98 Mauser in 7x57. tbh it was a post war unissued cherry. I loaded the 154 grain Hornaday at about 2600 fps. DuPont IMR 4831.

[@warrenlathrop6296]

@@elgato9534 A good safe load. My favorite is 175 Nosler Partitions at 2500 pushed by IMR 4350. Load from the 1973 Hornady handbook.

[@thomasdaniel6495]

You're right about longe range handgunning,I actually shoot better with a handgun than I do a rifle,or at least use to.I was intrigued by ol Elmer and would practice longe range shooting with a .44 mag.I was hunting in Colorado and the action screw came loose in my rifle and had to resight it.One of the guides had a Dan Wesson with a 8 3/8 barrel and he was shooting at a rock about twice the size of a football 300 yards away on a hill.He was hitting all around it but missing,so I asked him if I could try,and he let me.I aimed by putting the bottom of the barrel on top of the rock,offhand,fired and broke the rock in half.He cussed and bet me I couldn't do it again,so I fired again and hit.He cussed again,shook his head and took the gun back.I told him not to feel to bad because I shot my Redhawk almost everyday at 100-200 yards,so I had a good feel for it.But,when we got back to camp,he couldn't stop talking about it,and bragging.Over the years,he and I became good friends,and he would often mention that time.I find it easier to aim a handgun,simply because you don't have the wiggle of the scope to deal with,and my eyesight and body just naturally adjust,and I trust the gun instead of me.Great show,lot of good information,keep up the good work.

[@stormiewutzke4190]

I wish they would make a 30-06+P. Basically just a 30-06 that is loaded to it's max potential right up around 65kpsi. I hear about so many underloaded -06 loads and it doesn't do the old round any good. Loaded up at it's top limits at the 400 yard and under hunting ranges it holds up. Granted I think for that case size 7mm is just a bit more efficient. It generally will outperform the .270 at hunting ranges. We need to get rid of growing corn for fuel. Perhaps someone has better information but everything I am hearing is that it was bad math that got it started. With a war on it's probably a bad idea to be using a high fertilizer crop to just make bad gas. It's one of those deals where at least the perception is that politicians are throwing subsidies at the Midwest to get votes. I'm all for keeping food production in country but it's probably a good idea to eat it. I'm all for going green especially since building new power infastructure is great for construction jobs. I appreciate that you do highlight that we are wanting to preserve wild areas. We should get credit for being environmentally friendly and proactive.

[@elgato9534]

there is an Ackley Improved 30-06 bro. but factory loadings are awesome these days

[@edwardabrams4972]

The Hornaday superformance is ammo puts the 30-06 on the heals of the 300 win mag if you don’t reload

[@stormiewutzke4190]

@@elgato9534 the 30-06 is fair bit under the 65kpsi limit. They actually could increase the pressure 10% and be fine or close to it anyway. Even a 50 year old rifle could handle it or at least the bolt actions could. We do it with the 9mm and it's even older iirc and while it wouldn't sell new rifles it would make the 06 hold it's own. I am looking at switching to copper bullets and velocity is a far more important than it is for lead and for best results switching down bullet weight to 150s with higher speed will increase the range. It's most important for the harder gilding metal monolithic bullets. I know people have good results but expansion drops of really fast and I prefer that I get some good frontal surface.

[@stormiewutzke4190]

@@edwardabrams4972 I have them. It just seems like a good idea for a really common rifle cartridge. Whenever I look at a reloading manual it just sticks out that if the 06 was loaded to the same pressure as the other cartridges that are based off of it they may have been a bit less popular. The better internal balistics if a larger bore make for a fair bit more power. Handloading is on the hobby list but I have to sneak it past my wife. Lol

[@awiedevilliers1288]

@@stormiewutzke4190 I use a 30-06 with 150 grain GS customs high velocity all copper bullets and gets 3200 feet per second very flat shooting with good expansion about a inch on exit side

[@alexpacura9810]

Awesome show Ron. That information about the prairie chicken is amazing. We can really see your passion for nature come through. In regards to modern farming I agree that it is inherently destructive and unsustainable on many levels. In my opinion the key is permaculture and regenerative farming techniques like diverse planting, swales, ponds, and species selection.

[@joegreen4089]

In western South Dakota we had prairie chickens and grouse in the tree rows and dry draws until the pheasants pushed them out.

[@johnnash5118]

“Flat” is a cartridge that can project a bullet to its maximum point-blank range and to its minimum penetration-expansion for the game hunted.

[@davidderr2662]

Another very well done episode. I watched for the flattest shooting cartridged , but got excited by your opinions on bullets and cartridges for pelt harvesting.

[@amoruzz]

Great video Ron and very informative. I'm so glad that you spent a little time on land conservation for wildlife and hope that you can do more video's to inspire the hunting communities to get involved. Unfortunately, this topic is in serious need of support from the hunting community. You spoke about the midwest, especially the upper midwest. I've hunted this area most of my life and worked in the ag industry in my early years. I can tell you that we desperately need champions for land management and limiting the expansion of pesticides. No one walks beans, detassling corn or throws square bales anymore. Spot spraying with drones is being introduced and this will cut down on pesticides, but this needs support. We now have deer with transmittable wasting disease, rabbit's with disease and so on. I've seen more large groves, which is the last frontier for wildlife out on the prairies now, taken out over and over again for more cropland. It's a sad sight to witness these changes since I was a boy that hunted, trapped, etc. Cropland is big money in these states like you mentioned, especially S.D. The old farmers are sold out, retired and big buisnesses, young farm hands with no understanding of what was or what is needed are running the land and "ethanol money" is really driving them to their knees. Road kill, wasting disease on deer, fox and mink are going down in numbers fast. Pheasants, deer and turkeys will live in people's backyards to survive or go into town. The coyote still seems to survive despite being killed for fun. S.D. has a great governor and she is a hunter and pro conservation, but she has her hands full being in a mostly ag and livestock state where the battle is uphill. In recent years, we've had large eagles and snowy owls from the far great north come down to hunt small game and foul. If you pay attention, you can see a hawk sitting somewhere every country mile it's so competitive for predators. Out west, young tagged mountain lions seeking their own territory have been traced hundreds of miles away in other states due to road kill and other types of deaths. Let's get behind land and game habitat conservation issues before it's too late and use our vote. Thank you.

[@chrisdaniel1339]

I picked up a beautiful old made in Japan Nikon fixed 4x scope it is solid and clear. Perfect for a muzzleloader or New England brush gun

[@davidzakrzewicz707]

I really enjoyed this podcast. Some years back when I was outfitting my kids for deer hunting, I couldn’t afford much and the old steel tubed Weaver scopes were available in good used condition for reasonable prices. I snagged a few to top off our rifles and though a few fogged and had to be replaced, others are still serving. My son’s .30-06 and one daughters .243 both wear K-4 scopes with plain crosshairs. My other son has a K-3 with the post and crosshair on his .270 and another daughter has that same reticle in a bit newer 3-9x variable on her .257 Roberts. These old reliable cartridges and scope combinations harvest deer just fine. I’ve offered to upgrade their scopes but got the same response from all of them, “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.” Among my prized possessions are autographed copies of Elmer Kieth’s books. He held some strong opinions for sure and I doubt we will ever again see his like. I seem to dimly recall that the Hornady SX bullet was designed specifically for the.222 Remington. I don’t know if that is true or not, but I certainly poured a lot of them down the bore of mine. I preferred the Hornady 55 gr w/c in my .22-250. It just liked them better. I can’t help but love a podcast that ticks so many boxes with which I have experience, but I still usually learn something new. Keep ‘em coming, Ron.

[@RonSpomerOutdoors]

Thanls Dave. You sound like a hunter who has figured it out and passed it on. Bravo! Now for the grandkids?

[@johncox2865]

As always Ron, a pleasure.

[@mattevans-koch9353]

Thank you Ron for another nice evening video. Always much to learn from an experienced sportsman. Have a great evening.

[@DanielBoone337]

Great podcast as always keepem coming brother!!!

[@davidbrock1565]

Entertaining as always!!

[@sha6mm]

Bad news is farm chemicals are having a big impact on our ground nesting birds. Even in areas with good habitat our Quail and Pheasants never have recovered even when we have had good weather in winter and spring.

[@HarrisonCountyStudio]

Interesting, could there be any other variables that are at play?

[@kirkmartin2223]

I think its forage base loss and habit loss due to.... farming practices. Now chemicals play a huge part in that but im not sure that birds are getting killed directly by chemicals but I could definitely be wrong.

[@elgato9534]

yes but coyotes are a true plague. now crows are displacing everything that flies smaller than a chicken

[@sha6mm]

@@kirkmartin2223 Well there was a Study of a dozen & half different ground nesting birds and it was farm chemicals especially pesticides causing the decline. A Pheasant first two weeks needs insects to eat I do believe.

[@kirkmartin2223]

@@sha6mm down here in Texas the fire ants a Bermuda grass have done more harm to the Bob white quail than anything else

[@steeveb9166]

Hi Ron, could you, please, make a review of the 270 weatherby mag? I recently purchased a Mark V in this caliber and its so fun to shoot! Regards, Steeve

[@dougkahler7152]

Steve I had a 270 wby mag and I still cry about it burning up in a fire along with an extremely accurate 300 rem ultra mag.

[@edwardabrams4972]

Of the almost 100 Weatherbys I have owned the 270 is one of the best! Good for deer, pronghorn and elk! The recoil is about the same as a 7 mag and very flat shooting! Even in the Vanguard model it is very accurate and reasonably priced!

[@paulmeek7964]

My Accumark in 270way was awesome signs 130 spire point. So much that after 5 years I sold it to my cousin who at the time shot a 300 win mag. Pull the trigger deer dropped never took a step from 50 yes to my longest shot of 679. Yes had a witness. Ride the lightning for sure with that baby. Now my cousin who would lose a deer or 2 sometimes with the 300 absolutelyloves270wby. Not only has he fell in love he also killed his biggest buck to date. Safely say that rifle will never be for sale again. Great round

[@bradh74]

They should make the Season on Aoudad or any invasive species an open season! That way you can take them at will. So we can protect our ecosystem. That can't be good and the amount of animals I saw in a video was quite large for the area, I thought anyway. I'd love to have hunted about everything on four legs but I would love to see my grandchildren be able to do the same..... So I'm all for bringing back declining species and getting rid of invasive species. I believe that would be a great start to conserve our wildlife/natural resources. We as Americans should start to see our wildlife as a Natural Resource so we can better manage them. We do pretty well but need to step up our game, before it's too late!

[@RonSpomerOutdoors]

Good attitude and sentiment, bradh. As a culture, we hunters have been valuing native wildlife as a natural resource since at least the late 1800s when todays modern conservation management movement began. Conservation hunters like Gifford Pincho, T. Roosevelt and many others started Nt. Wildlife Refuge system, state Fish & Game agencies, trained wildlife biologists, game wardens, closed seasons, magazine capacity limits, closed seasons, bag limits, etc. Restored many species that were on the verge of extinction. Pronghorn have gone from 20,000 to more than 1 million. Elk went from a few thousand in Yellowstone to more than a million from Alaska to Kentucky. Wild turkeys erupted through the 1980 into the 2000s. Geese have reached pest numbers in most regions. Black bears and cougars saturate their habitats everywhere. We've done well, but must step it up again now that more and more millions of humans are destroying wildlife habitat for roads, housing, energy, etc.

[@diogenes5381]

Trajectory & target size are relative to shooting skill. Know your target & know your rifle & what it can do. Do not exceed those limits.

[@elgato9534]

sorry about my long wind. good old Elmer Keith bragged about shooting eagles at 600 yards with a 4 inch model 29. sure.

[@jcows12]

Flat shooting is equivalent to bullet speed. Gravity pulls the same for all objects, faster bullets cover more distance in shorter time... less time falling.

[@RonSpomerOutdoors]

Yes, but don't forget bullet B.C. Aerodynamic efficiency retains speed/energy to aid in the distance effort before gravity has finished its work.

[@chrisaerts6489]

Very educational Thanks Ron

[@madirishmen55]

Thank you so much for your videos! I love them and you have a great voice, you should narrate some old books!

[@elgato9534]

the western Grey squirrels are as challenging a prey as any imo with a 22lr. they are tough wary and extremely athletic. just try it

[@garyscheer8017]

The vintage scopes show up on Gunbroker quite often

[@edwardabrams4972]

All so check the pawn shops I find them there and at a very reasonable price

[@kevingriffith4036]

Back in the 1970's when I was in High School coyote pelts were good money. We liked using military surplus FMJ or perhaps they were armor piercing (we saved the tracers for fun). .308 going in .308 going out very little damage.

[@drewriggs812]

Made Dad bought me a Bushnell range finders for bow hunting in 1995. I don't remember how far it would range. Seems like it was 400yards reflective and 300 yards dull.

[@robertfarrow4256]

Elmer Kieth used 44 specials loaded VERY (dangerously} hot loads prior to 44 Mag.

[@trapperbobpatriot8288]

Good luck with Africa. Me and my stepdaughter are so excited about our trip. We are going over next September!!

[@RonSpomerOutdoors]

Good luck, Patriot. My wife and I and a couple of friends will be there too. Do you think Africa can handle all of us?

[@11ccom]

Good stuff.

[@kirkboswell2575]

One BIG issue that always seems to be ignored is the annual burning of pasture land. Over and over, "environmentalists" complain about burning off pasture land. Guess what? The pasture lands EVOLVED with a yearly burning from lightning strikes. The results of this yearly burning are 1. Nutrition added to the soil (from ashes). 2. Clearing off of last year's dead plants which inhibit new grass. 3. Burning (inhibiting) trees and brush so that only grass prevails. LITTERALLY everywhere that burning of grasslands is prohibited, those grasslands are quickly LOST to brush and cedar trees. Want more grass? Burn the dead stuff every spring.

[@RonSpomerOutdoors]

Fair point, Kirk, but not perfectly accurate. Yes, North American grasslands are maintained by fire, but not every spring! Historically. grasslands burned via lightening strike at unpredictable frequencies. Native Americans often set grassland fires to do just what you described. But such fires weren't annual events. And they always burned in an unpredictable pattern, creating a mosaic of burned and unburned patches. Standing dead grass from previous year's growth are important nesting and escape habitat for ground nesting birds and small mammals. Degrading grass "thatch" builds up soil and protects soil from wind and water erosion. Thatch also shades soil from summer sun, aiding in soil moisture retention. The unburned but biodegraded grasses are what create rich, black, high carbon prairie soils. So, burning is essential to hold back brush and forest growth, but not every spring. Every 5 to 7 years is probably reasonable. Thanks for bringing this up, Kirk.

[@kirkboswell2575]

@@RonSpomerOutdoors - I'll grant that there's a case to be made for less than annual burning, but during my growing up years our family was the caretakers of a rundown ranch of about 5500 acres. Overgrown with brush, cedar trees, purple top thistles, and numerous areas of erosion. We started burning off every spring. Took 4 years to be noticeably better, but by the sixth year we had stopped all the erosion, eradicated the thistles, stopped the cedar tree incursion, and eliminated entangled underbrush. The trees were now along the waterways, the ponds were clear, the brush wove through the trees but it could be walked through, and the grass was green and thick. Even now, it's my belief that I can look at a pasture and automatically know if the owner burns every spring, or refuses to burn. So, yes, I'm biased, but I know that a good burn program can restore grasslands.

[@jeremyhanna3852]

I pal around with some wildcaters they are always playing with hot hot stuff curently there playing around with a 204 ruger necked to .177 firing copper hammer bullets at close to a mile a second

[@michaelnelson1911]

What do you think Jack O’Conner would have said about the 6.8 Western. Do you think it will be a cartridge that stays around?

[@NCWoodlandRoamer]

A flash in the pan that will be mostly forgotten in a decade or less.

[@jk-kr8jt]

Hi Ron, thanks for spending my lunch break with me. I see you've been to town recently and picked up some razor blades. Also those wood cartridge boxes are beautiful. I really found the part about the Heath Hen interesting. I did not know of this bird and I'm a bit of a bird watcher. More so in the Aldo Leopold version and not in the scream in your face greeny verity. Thank you, for the history lesson. Here in Illinois we (IDNR and tax payers) spent years and millions of dollars trying to reestablish the Prairie Chicken. Unfortunately it didn't take. Believe it or not with Illinois politics it turned into a giant money laundering deal. Our director of IDNR, who latter became director of Wyo F&G, would send state airplanes to Wyoming to pickup adult Prairie Chickens and fly them back to Illinois. In speaking with him and most State Congressmen (women) they never considered getting eggs or chicks and raising them in one of our many state hatcheries. If I can call McMurray hatchery in Ohio and have Guinie fowl delivery to my door 24 - 48 hours later, why the heck are spending a fortune flying to Wyoming. Great use the Wyoming stock, but it's a lot cheaper to fly eggs or chicks. I am all for conservation and reestablishing our wildlife, but could we please stop wasting conservation dollars. Heck I spend a small fortune myself, every year, reestablishing native plants, habitat, wildlife on farms of my own. My no means am I against it, just let's all be smart about. Hopefully some day we will see many of our lost wildlife showing back up. Just like the Prairie Chickens have on your boyhood home farm. All the best to you Ron. Too you seem to be in an exceptionally good humor today. 👍 Cheers, Jeff

[@michaelwilson9986]

Iron sight inc.. they work on n repair older scopes not all but a good # N sale some..

[@TexanUSMC8089]

223 with a 40gr varmint bullet, 204 ruger, 22-250 with a 40-50gr varmint bullet. Those are great for varmint and trapping, but there are probably 20 more cartridges that people use. It all comes down to where you're trapping and hunting. There's a big difference between Wyoming and Louisiana. In the south, you might use a 22LR or 17hmr.

[@jefferywilliams7687]

They will bow up the pelt and kill the value. Idea for killing Coyotes for bounty. My favorites are a 22-250 and 220 Swift when not worried about the pelt.

[@linkbond08]

21:57 This past season I managed to hunt a turkey with my Smith & Wesson 9mm, that was a heck of a lucky shot, and very very fun.

[@billbailey5992]

My favorite cal is as unpopular as it gits, 6mm rem.

[@JAKDRZR]

Ron look at the 85gr nosler bt varmint in 25cal. I get 3600fps out of my 25-06 22” barrel. .329 bc so very close to the 75gr v max in .243 but going a little faster. I’m not a fur hunter so I’m shooting coytes for my uncle on his cattle farm and the 25-06 with the 85gr is absolutely gods hammer on them dogs. Lol

[@patrickjoseph5028]

This is my go-to cartridge and bullet in coyote rich Nevada…R19 and 85gr Nosler 2506…hammer slams dogs out to 400 and beyond

[@JAKDRZR]

@@patrickjoseph5028 I use the same powder. Lol 3600fps out of a 22” barrel.

[@BalkanOutdoorsman]

Greeting from Croatia and nice job again Ron. Let ask you is 30.06 to big for badger hunting (and other varmint possibly volverine amd fox) pelts "arent" important. What bullet weight do you recomend? P.S I usualy go boar hunting and finish afterwards doing some of above listed varmints if no boar shows up. 😅 Shoot straight ✌🏻💪🏻🌿🌿

[@bobgordon1754]

The .30/06 can be used for varmints as long as the right bullet is used. A non expanding or a very heavy bullet would work. A 220 grain would work on both hogs and varmints.

[@BalkanOutdoorsman]

@@bobgordon1754 i do have 220 grain Hammerhead from Sako. So I did a good choice then hehe,thanks.

[@bobgordon1754]

@@BalkanOutdoorsman yes you did.

[@RonSpomerOutdoors]

If you're not saving the pelts, the 30-06 with any bullet at any velocity will more than suffice.

[@BalkanOutdoorsman]

@@RonSpomerOutdoors thank you Mr. Ron its a privelege to get your opinion. 🌿🌿

[@clintonlayne9253]

Ron What would you say about the 224 Valkyrie for Coyote hunting ? I

[@224valk4]

From my web name you can tell I'm a valk fan. I busted PDogs past 400 yards last june! 50 grain vmax at 3400 fps. Won't exit a coyote either, no exit wound! I've had heavy's past 1k in Oklahoma. Wilson Combat's in valk ROCK!

[@drsmokeybones]

You sure look great at 69! I'm 56 and trying to stay fit. But it ain't as easy as 10 or 20 years ago. I did give up drinking thank goodness. What's your secret? I thought you were closer to my age. Greg G. Keep up the great content. Love the discussions on the endless array of cartridges. I still love the " boring" Ought-Six and the 357 Magnum with Buffalo Bore or similar top handloads out of my rugged Ruger 6" to 7.5" revolvers.

[@RonSpomerOutdoors]

Well thank you drsmokey. My secret is mainly good genetics combined with moderation in all things (as modeled by my parents) mixed with an active outdoors lifestyle. The closest I've come to "working out" regularly is promising myself I'll someday get around to it. But weeding, raking, fencing, mowing, gardening, hunting, and bucking/splitting 3 or 4 cords of hardwood firewood each year help. Enjoy that hot new 7mm! I think it's proven itself now and can be trusted.

[@drsmokeybones]

@@RonSpomerOutdoors Good advice thanks for your reply.

[@veteranironoutdoors8320]

The only place I have found old scopes is at small to medium gun shows.

[@HarrisonCountyStudio]

I have some period correct ‘old scopes’ on a ‘71 Ruger M77 in .25-06 and a 70’ Remington Woodsman semi-auto in .30-06. For the scopes age, they perform well.

[@edwardabrams4972]

Pawn shops are a good place to check! I have bought at least a 100 or more over the 60 years hunting reloading and collecting rifles

[@robertstump5290]

Hey ron i don't hear to much about the 8mm Remington mag what do you think about it

[@RonSpomerOutdoors]

I did a video on it several months ago, Robt. Fine cartridge, but magnum length action hinders broad shooter acceptance. No major advantages over 338 Win Mag.

[@edwardabrams4972]

It’s funny but my 83 year old friend makes those ammo boxes too but with any kind of wood you could think of. I get mine for free or I might be interested in one!

[@damienthomas6655]

supressed 22 cal is super quite with subs ,,give that ago with them squirrels ,,hey have you ever eaten a squirrel ?i never even seen a squirrel but when i get one im gunna try eat it ,i ate raven once and there edible but not great ,turbo chooks you put in the pot with a river stone and when the stone is soft the birds ready to eat lol ,oh i tryed mutton bird but tastes like your eating sardines ,really greasy weird flavor but yeah not great .

[@windellpenton]

Actually it was Bushnell in 1995-1996 .. I used one in 1997 in Colorado on a mule deer hunt .. 🤓

[@Drivapete]

In my opinion: My 257 Wby mag is an absolute laser beam to my personal capability of 500yds. That's my limit.

[@robertwatson818]

Projectiles from a rifle (or any gun) do not travel through a parabolic arc. They travel through a drooping arc with the droop getting worse and worse.

[@xwayesknbent]

which is better in a 6.5 bullet, the 143gr hornady eldx or the 140gr nosler ballistic tip?

[@aldeureaux5184]

If the deer was running away I can easily see how Jack might have done it.

[@robertezell1916]

CRP is one thing the federal government has done fairly well.

[@ashleighadams5701]

hey ron i love your vids and i've looking at the 30-30 win in a lever action and do you any good ideas . what is your favorite 1800,s cartridge . Thanks keep up your vids .

[@RonSpomerOutdoors]

Ashleigh, check out Winchester, Henry, Mossberg for lever action 30-30s. The famous Marlin 336 is currently out of production, but I suspect the new Marlin owner, Ruger, will start building it again in a year or three.

[@theunofficialresults231]

300 saum ammo is off the charts $$$$$$

[@michaelrandall7639]

Ron, where does the wildcat 6.5-300 wsm compare to the 6.5 PRC ??? Inquiring mind are curious.

[@rgroemmer]

don't forget the338-06

[@wesgarrett42]

30-378 with 125 nosler are as flat as it gets 4200 fps and no the wind drift isnt bad better than heavier bullets at 1000 .

[@benjaminhamm3957]

16:55 for title topic

[@GamerNxUSN]

Could you do an overview of that park west rifle? I can't find much about them other than their pdw.

[@RonSpomerOutdoors]

Yes, reviews are coming this fall.

[@jacobmccandles1767]

Is that thumbnail the .243, .257 Roberts, and .257 Wby?

[@brandonrenner9597]

I've never seen ammo or rifles for any ruger compact magnums

[@300blackout4]

Would love to know your thoughts on illuminated reticles for hunting

[@RonSpomerOutdoors]

Many find a glowing reticle center, whether dot or cross, allows faster target acquisition in low light\. Just so much easier to see that spot than the junction of two black lines, especially if there are additional hash lines down the vertical post. My wife gains confidence in her targeting when she sees that red spot against the dark hide of a buffalo.

[@jcows12]

204 ruger and 223 are super for predator hunting.

[@mountainview540]

I can't believe I bow hunted for so long without a range finder. Killing more deer these days because of it

[@bethhensel3741]

Quack Quack Quack

[@elgato9534]

most of were sure we were shooting 275 yards until we got a range finder. more like 165 yards.

[@chadlemons8555]

416 375 ruger content please

[@bradbo3]

The first deer I ever took was running away from me and i was just following her tail....I saw her plant and knew she would turn...and when she did...I shot. I thought I missed...but my uncle said he saw a pink mist. 135 yds with a 308 long eye relief scope. Sure enough when I walked up to where she was...blood...and huge blood trail into the woods. She didnt go to far. But since then...i refuse to take a running shot. I got lucky.

[@csjrogerson2377]

I'm with you on that one. The only running game I would shoot would be dangerous game running at our group. However, I leave those big angry critters alone, so its not a problem.

[@MrBarramundi]

Hey Ron, I have a question from Australia. Gunblue 490 stated that the USA developed the 30/03 in 1903 off the German 7x57 Mauser case specs, basically making it longer, and then developed the 30/06 and later the .270 Winchester off the 30/03 case, making the 30/06 and .270 Winchester siblings. Is this true?

[@RonSpomerOutdoors]

Yes, Andrew, that is all true. After suffering the precision of the 1893 Spanish Mausers shooting the 7x57 cartridge in Cuba, T. Roosevelt (Rough Riders) and other military brass figured out our weaker 30-40 Krag and older 45-70 Govt. were not measuring up, so they set out to design the 1903 Springfield rifle and 30-06 Cartridge, both of which were suspiciously similar to the Mauser rifle and 7x57 cartridge. We first made the 30-03 cartridge shooting 220-gr. RN, but by 1906 they'd already modified that to the 30-06 shooting 150-gr. spire points. Winchester then necked down the 30-06 case to make the 270. Remington necked it down to make the 25-06 Rem. Col. Townsend Whelen necked it up to the 35 Whelen ad the 375 Whelen. Then there's the 338-06 and the 6.5-06. Shorten that -06 case and you can make the 308 Win., 7mm-08 Rem., 260 Rem., 243 Win., 338 Federal, 358 Win. The 7x57 Mauser gave rise to a lot of cartridges -- and the 7x57 essentially sprang from the 8x57mm Mauser that preceded it around 1888.

[@mrskelington]

@@RonSpomerOutdoors Col Whelen’s 1940 book The Hunting Rifle, credits the creation of the .35 Whelen to James V. Howe, and that it was given Whelens name. Although Wikipedia also includes an earlier contradictory statement from Col Whelen. Anyway, thanks for your fantastic videos Ron, and I must credit your humility in being corrected (on those rare occasions) Your knowledge still dwarfs most of us. Cheers from New Zealand

[@MrBarramundi]

@@RonSpomerOutdoors I am sorry Ron, I do not want to be pedantic but it has bugged me for some time. Gunblue 490 states that the 30/06 case and the .270 Winchester case are siblings, not father and son. Both based off the 30/03 case which was in turn based off the 7x57 Mauser case. My question is: Is this true? Even Wikipedia says that the .270 case is a necked down 30/06. I have found that the shoulder of the .270 is higher than the 30/06 but fire-forming would surely explain that if they were father/son cartridges.

[@davidcitrowske]

Yeah .204 is perfect for coyotes

[@dr.froghopper6711]

Estate sales for old scopes!

[@outdoormaniac9951]

Hey Ron, according to a certain doctor, if you would keep your guns and ammo in your house for 2 weeks it should flatten the curve! 🤣🤣🤣

[@keithprinn720]

totally agree re RCM too many great options so if you can get or reload and already use it continue to be an individual. probably not too many new adherents but that will depend on availability and marketing. recoil for this calibre would be too much for many to enjoy.

[@treymartin6304]

Where are you going in africa? I would like to take my 19 year old son for a plains game hunt? Any outfitter recommendations?

[@RonSpomerOutdoors-Podcast]

Check out Immenhof Safaris website immenhofhunting.com/. Great folks in Namibia. In South Africa try www.crusadersafaris.com/ and fortrichmond.co.za. Also safarisnamibia.com/ with Dirk Debod in Namibia.

[@wesleyturner1979]

I think the new cartridges aren’t selling well because every time they release a new one, every gun channel on KZbin puts out a video about how the new cartridge doesn’t do anything far superior to the popular existing cartridges. Amo availability and reloading dies are the death nail of a new cartridge release. Hopefully someone will figure out how to flood the market with abundant amo at a reasonable cost along with the release of guns and dies…. The 6.8 Western is a prime example of a fantastic new cartridge with not enough broad industry support.

[@ssearl3231]

Why nobody talks about spin drift? I only hear about wind drift

[@RonSpomerOutdoors]

Good question, SS. Spin drift easily adds 5 to 12 inches right or left to a bullet's trajectory at 1,000 yards. I'll have to do a video on this some day.

[@cornbreadburgess1950]

👍❤️🙏

[@davepowell3293]

Booming Ben was the last Heath Hen

[@albertsmit6208]

Hi Ron where in Africa you going to hunt

[@bradh74]

Africa let"s get an open season on Aoudad in Texas, and where ever else the invasive species is! Feral Hogs too! The farmers and Ranchers will thank you. Plus you keep that money in the USA. Hunting Feral Hogs for a helicopter won't happen anywhere else.

[@RonSpomerOutdoors]

Brad, there are seasons on aoudad in TX. I've taken several. Hog hunting is, as much as I know, wide open.

[@bradh74]

@@RonSpomerOutdoors I don't know what I did but instead of a reply I made another comment but.... Thanks for the reply and I hope that you're still doing a Black powder video in spite of the vote! I'm curious to see if you can cast your own bullets with these new high tech rifles! So we can get away from the high dollar power belt bullets.

[@missey3164]

I bought a 6.5 prc ended up selling it not my cup of tea. Over rated in my opinion. I much prefer my 6.5×55 swede and my 6.5 Creedmoor

[@IHWKR]

I wanna see a rifle that'll shoot a 22lr with enough gunpowder to launch a 50bmg

[@adamshaw8214]

Going to Africa 🤣🤣

[@Lixmathing]

We need to stop growing more people..lol