All Roose Bolton scenes from Season 2. I DO NOT OWN ANYTHING Made solely for those who are fans of the character. Send me requests for what compilation clips you want next.
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@gregj33692 жыл бұрын
never realized how hard Roose tried to give Rob good council, and all he got was Rob's obstinate, headstrong arrogance. Rob really did seal his own fate. he broke all his vows and generally pissed everyone off.
@eathan24652 жыл бұрын
if only robb listened to roose and karstark he would have won the war
@jimsty52222 жыл бұрын
Aside from his stance on torturing and killing POW (which in the end, really didn't play into Robb's downfall), what other advice did Robb ignore? He wasn't there to advise against executing Lord Karstark and he never really said anything about Robb breaking his oath with the Frey's... In fact, Robb took his advice on not returning to Winterfell, and to let Ramsay deal with Theon.
@jimsty52222 жыл бұрын
@@eathan2465 aside from his suggestions on torturing and killing POW's *for* information (which a common solider probably wouldn't be privy to anyways), for space in their campground abd rations, -- what other advice did Robb ignore from Roose? And yet, he listened to him about not returning to Winterfell, did he not? It was a very idiotic idea by Robb and Roose swayed him away from the idea. I mean, on another note, say what you want about Cat releasing Jaime Lannister, she gave consistent and sound advice to him. She warned him not to break his marriage oath to the Frey's and to hold Lord Karstark as a hostage until the war was over. In both instances, Roose didn't say anything.
@donnymoney42222 жыл бұрын
He got what he deserved!
@hubbabubba25702 жыл бұрын
@@jimsty5222 let's agree Robb is an idiot and his biggest blunder is naming himself king. As lord of Winterfell he could've found any number of allies or rode home once he saw the war was lost, giving him the home field advantage. With Stannis by his side they could've hit King's Landing with a united front or co-ordinated their troops (better with Renly and the Tyrells but that won't work)
@jasonlowery99479 жыл бұрын
House Stark's motto shouldn't be "Winter is Coming". It should be "Honor Before Reason".
@samh30748 жыл бұрын
+Jason Lowery It wasn't very honourable of him to forsake his oath to marry the Frey girl.
@wololo37817 жыл бұрын
That's why i think the tully's words are the best "Family, Duty, Honor" 3 Important things in the rigth orders, if the starks had respected those words, most would still be alive.
@NessaBear906 жыл бұрын
sam h I completely agree with that... 100%... He wasn't honorable when it came to that... but that nurse chick threw herself at him and he was horny... he was only 18...
@halo0916 жыл бұрын
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@kkandsims46122 жыл бұрын
Exactly not fo mention catelyn is legit from the south she knew how the southern had no honor why the fuck did she not tell her family this or at least teach them this value it would have helped robb a lot of he acted like ned but had his grandfathers political sense
@sanza0216 жыл бұрын
The timing of Talisa is obviously always getting in the nerves of Roose. Roose is more focused on winning the war than Robb 😁
@ffaz1233 жыл бұрын
True indeed. That woman really was a distraction, Robb lost the war because of her.
@ARCtrooperblueleader3 жыл бұрын
Lol. True. I feel like every time she shows up, he wants to snap his fingers in Robb’s face and say, “FOCUS.” xD
@TheSim4e902 жыл бұрын
He knew Robb had his eye on her and that it will distract him/make him break his vow to the freys/
@JingleJangle2562 жыл бұрын
If Robb was just fucking her, I don’t think Roose would’ve cared. But it’s the fact that his knows Robb is green and would sacrifice victory for honor.
@joshuapratt97612 жыл бұрын
Robb had yet to lose.
@nikolaoskal74382 жыл бұрын
Robb was a weak King and that's why Roose betrayed him. Rob allowed his arrogant and controlling mother unlimited access to him during a bloody war. She yelled at the King in front of his second in command. Always second gueesing his decisions, undermining his aythority and acting rogue. He should have never accepted her in his camp, immediatelly sending her back home by force. He then fell in lust with a random girl he knew nothing about and allowed her unlimited access to his tent, even going so far as to dismiss his bannermen whenever she appeared. And then... he broke his oaths because of "love" (i.e. lust, the Frey girls were not that good looking for his taste). Leading to his just death. What a fool.
@Scooterbeerrun2 жыл бұрын
That's not just. The fact that someone is treasonous is on them, not the people they betray. We all saw what the Bolton way got Roose
@Anybody24 Жыл бұрын
Harsh but your mostly right🙃
@juliandacosta6841 Жыл бұрын
Nope, only 2 mistakes were jaime and sleeping with the girl. And Roose and Frey would have killed him anyways, because they do what gets them the most power, not responding to slights, perceived or otherwise.
@aureum747910 ай бұрын
@@juliandacosta6841It’s more complicated than that, Roose wasn’t blinded by greed or power, he is smart and cunning, he only betrayed Robb because it was the best possible outcome he saw for his legacy of his house, had Robb listened to Roose more he wouldn’t have betrayed him. And Walder was bitter, because Robb went back on his word and spurned his family
@theopportuneson69910 ай бұрын
Catelyn Stark was the one person he could always count on, and most of the advise she gave was sound. Yes, she freed Jamie, but she warned him not to send Theon alone, she pled with him not to disregard his oath to the Freys, and she advised him not to execute Lord Karstark. Each of those three were bigger bounders than releasing Jamie.
@staffsgt.sullivan38332 жыл бұрын
The Roose Bolton from this season-and the books-would immediately begin preparations for a counter-coup against Ramsay the moment word of his true born son was announced. He’d have all Ramsay’s men, who in the books were actually Roose’s men under cover, surveilled and purged. Instead, in season 6 of the show, he does none of this and goes for a hug.
@JoePedo2 ай бұрын
Agreed. Horrible writing and wildly out of character
@gerrymcwilliam8 жыл бұрын
Did Roose technically count as his hand? Im guessing he was in support of him. But not taking his advice and then Roose's promise to have the North just was a no brainer
@Scarecrow5456 жыл бұрын
Hand of the King is a generally Southern tradition, stemming from Targaryen rule. I'd say the Blackfish was Robb's most trusted advisor, and probably the closest equivalent to Hand for him.
@masterexploder96682 жыл бұрын
Robb also didn't have a Kingsguard per name, but he had an elite guard to protect him, they all died at RW.
@johnnyboogalo48972 жыл бұрын
@@Scarecrow545 Yeah blackfish was behind many of his victories.In books anyways it was his plan to ambush jamie and also he was behind oxcross and lifting the siege of riverun hell when you look at it.It was tywin fighting the blackfish during the war lol
@Goose20012 ай бұрын
Roose was the head of his vanguard
@ben86jones823 жыл бұрын
Robbs death was his own lust for such a fine fine woman. she is stunning. Bolton tried to stop him and be pragmatic over and over. They should have had Roose murder Ramsey not the other way. It showed such usa tv crap when Roose died. As if he wouldnt have seen it coming.
@ethanragbir83112 жыл бұрын
Roose definitely would have realized Ramsey would plot to either murder him or his son. Much more realistic for Roose to quietly dispatch Ramsey than him just getting stabbed.
@donnymoney42222 жыл бұрын
She's cute but stunning I feel is a different type of beauty
@paulojesrenvillanueva93952 жыл бұрын
Robb was surrounded by good man and experience general they were all loyal to house stark and even smarter when combined to tywin that's why Rob win every war he fought until he pissed them off.
@lockelamora80998 жыл бұрын
One Game of Thrones-ish thing Robb Stark did-- plot for the Ironborn to turn in Theon. And look, it WORKED! Lesson: LISTEN TO ROOSE BOLTON. Then kill him, before he gets too cocky...
@Bargadiel7 ай бұрын
"And where was KING Rob, when the Ironborn attacked this castle" - Lord Glover, when he expressed his disappointment with Robb wanting to help the north. Robb did want to come back north, but was advised to trust Ramsay.
@aliensconfirmed3498Ай бұрын
Robb did want to come North but moat callin stood between him and north and Lyssa Arryn didn't respond to his ravens to go by sea.
@Adamatronamus2 жыл бұрын
There is only one warden of the north, and his name is Bolton.
@ethanragbir83112 жыл бұрын
facts
@alecjones46765 жыл бұрын
2:56 *Roose Bolton disliked that*
@mrharvy1003 жыл бұрын
If I was Roose I would be pissed too! Literally lost the war because of stupid Stark moral code. That and Robb thought with his member
@hubbabubba25704 жыл бұрын
I want a whole series about those two guys at the start. Rennick and his boi.
@phillybb31672 ай бұрын
Let’s not forget Robb Stark was just a kid
@ftniceberg8742 жыл бұрын
The thing about loyalty...Once you break it then you let everyone know it's a smart idea to betray you first. Roose never expected his bastard to betray him once he gave him his name and paid the price along with his legitimate son and wife. The disloyal have no supporters.
@captainfordo2780Ай бұрын
Robb was a fool. Too much mercy, wasting resources on prisoners, letting surrendered enemies retreat, breaking oaths, disrespecting his council, and letting a nobody - Talisa - interrupt council meetings. Also the audacity of that girl to keep interrupting them lol. She was poison to Robb and got what she deserved at the red wedding.
@DisturbedAidan2Ай бұрын
For a video about Roose Bolton, did it need to take over 2 minutes before we saw him?
@NordicJarl272 ай бұрын
Tbh i like robb, i really do. But he was being too honorable. Roose gave some good counsel to him. Its war and sometimes you got to do what you got to do. Even with karstarks i side with him on rebuking their lord on killing the boys but he should of listened to his mother and others. Imprison him and tell his men to keep fighting until the war is won and he would be released or atleast put to trial. Just robb was trying to be too much like his father and do the honorable way. I agree with roose saying "The high road is pretty but you will have trouble marching your army down it"
@kkandsims46122 жыл бұрын
If robb had been smart he would have made his widowed mom marry roose .
@xsweat161827 күн бұрын
Somebody shoulda told rob that the *stark* reality, hehe, is that if they’re gonna abuse his sister they’re gonna do it regardless, the fastest way to save them is to storm that castle *that took everything rob didn’t do*
@fchillaxing2 жыл бұрын
roose being nice to jaimie was a sign he flipped.
@nepntzerZer2 жыл бұрын
Killing’s the sweetest thing there is
@spyral10512 жыл бұрын
Everyone saying Robb should've listen to Roose, wtf was he suppose to listen too, to torture soliders? Did you guys even listen to why that was bad?
@ethanragbir83112 жыл бұрын
>dont take thousands of prisoners while the supply lines are stretched and dont have men to watch over them >dont march back north while we're winning the war in the south, losing everything and having the sacrifices mean nothing >dont show mercy to the ironborn who are sacking and plundering the north It's all pretty solid advice. Executing prisoners isn't something new in Game of Thrones or in real life.
@spyral10512 жыл бұрын
@@ethanragbir8311 the prisoners weren't the reason why Robb lost now was it. It was betrayal by Roose. He hardly went back north did he? He sent Roose north to deal with them, but he was a traitor, infact it was Roose that made the north lose now that I think of it.
@ethanragbir83112 жыл бұрын
@@spyral1051 The prisoners were apart of the long list of why Robb lost the war. In the books and show the reasonings and a bit different as in the books they are a bit more detailed and apparent but I'll reference the show for sake of discussion. Robb disregarded the council and advice of Roose Bolton, one of the most powerful and cunning Lords of the North. He let 2 of his most valuable hostages escape him. Jamie Lannister and Theon Greyjoy. Jamie Lannisters' release led to the rift between Stark and Karstark which eventually led to the departure of the Karstark men (which Tywin describes as half their army). Theon then proceeds to led Ironborn raids/invasion of the north capturing Winterfell (with his sister taking other lands). Robb then marries Talisa, breaking a sacred oath to house Frey and losing the support of another significant house. So, we have Robb on 3 different occasions disregarding, dishonoring, and executing Lords of significance. Out of arrogance or under a false pretext of honor. He also sat at Riverrun for the majority of season 3 NOT fighting the Lannisters because he kept losing support through his dumb actions. Roose and Ramsay followed Robb Stark and when it was apparent he was an oathbreaking hypocrite they made the rational decision to abandon his cause and salvage an advantageous position from the mess of their rebellion. Roose didn't cause the Starks to lose, the Starks caused the Starks to lose. Catelyn Stark arguably started the war of the five kings with Tyrions arrest.
@spyral10512 жыл бұрын
@@ethanragbir8311 Boltons are the reason North fell, they were always looking for a way for more power not a north victory. Every house agreed Robb should be king even at their disadvantage when Robb wanted Stannis. The could've held out for years, blackfish had loyalty in riverland, vale could've come around, martells joining, then later tyrells since their joining was quickly soured. Boltons were a stain.
@ethanragbir83112 жыл бұрын
@@spyral1051 You just completely disregarded my entire previous message so I'll just summarize. The Starks lost the war long before the Red Wedding. Roose Bolton and Walder Frey just finally made an end to it.
@StringerBellLivesOnАй бұрын
What I dont get is why not just send all the prisoners to the wall?
@donnymoney42222 жыл бұрын
"Hes been stabbing renly for years still hasn't killed him" LOL I thought loras was the bottom
@lollipop-zf1rs2 жыл бұрын
Rob was foolishly Honorable. Same with Nerd and John. Their simple mindedness caused a lot of needless pain and deaths. They can't survive a world with the likes of Little finger, Cerssie, Boltons, Freys, Grey joy Uncle, and The Bald Eunuch.
@aliensconfirmed3498Ай бұрын
It wasn't honour that destroyed them but Mercy. Starks were always honourable but Starks of past were known to be ruthless against their enemies. Ned stark was too passive and merciful because of Jon Arryn's influence. That's what got him killed.
@collinleeAMV7 жыл бұрын
rub stock!
@lorcansavage15507 ай бұрын
Anyone who’s thinking he’s a great actor should check out an Irish comedy mockumentary called ‘Paths to Freedom’….You’ll hardly believe it’s the same person
@normalindividual42439 жыл бұрын
why dislikes?
@Sirxchrish9 жыл бұрын
stormz jeah because Roose Bolton is a cunt.
@ThelegendofToonLink9 жыл бұрын
Sirxchrish pro-starks everywhere, iugh
@GhANeC9 жыл бұрын
stormz jeah because of what Digenis GR said
@benjaminfleury468 жыл бұрын
+Sirxchrish how dare you!
@m.g.52077 жыл бұрын
because the boltons are "treasonous whores".
@nc63795 жыл бұрын
Roose Bolton was one of the few man capable of beating Tywin Lannister, if only Robb listened to him.
@RexOlafusVidulusMagnus2 жыл бұрын
Ironically, Tywin beat Roose in battle
@michaelterrell5061 Жыл бұрын
Robb did nothing but beat Tywin and everyone else, he’s arguably the best general in the series.
@JonyTony2018 Жыл бұрын
Edmure beat Tywin in battle
@nathanhursey677911 ай бұрын
@@RexOlafusVidulusMagnusroose got all of them men more loyal to Robb killed by Tywin instead of his own forces.
@gaiusmariuscaesar7 ай бұрын
Yeah the goal wasn't deafeating Tywin it was pinning him, plus he was outnumbered and out gunned by Tywin, its pretty impressive that Roose manged to retreat from Tywin with most of his forces intact.@@RexOlafusVidulusMagnus
@memyselfyo88447 жыл бұрын
05:13 'My boy would be honored to bring you prince theons head'........ just not the one that sits on his his shoulders Lol.
@blackfyre51586 жыл бұрын
Memyself Yo 😂😂😂😂
@dominykasrudokas40342 жыл бұрын
His nice little head
@licheng79569 жыл бұрын
Can't believe we never got to see an actual battlefield scene between Lannisters and Stark
@diddeny18 жыл бұрын
Maybe we will. Jon vs Jaime
@JohnSmith-wr7lg7 жыл бұрын
diddeny1 Quick battle being that Jamie sucks now. Went from the best to the worst
@Dark_Voice7 жыл бұрын
I dont know. If he parried Jons strike and than smashed him with the iron fist. It would be really destructive strike.
@moraisgkm7 жыл бұрын
it was due to budget reasons, they saved all budget to the Blackwater battle episode... And in season1 we also didnt get to see the Battle of the Whispering Wood aswell, which is an amazing battle in the books and that was due to low budget aswell :/
@harrywhitehead74423 жыл бұрын
@@moraisgkm TBF in the books we never properly saw the Battle of the Whispering Wood either - Theon wasn't a POV character at the time and any descriptions of the fight came 2nd hand to Catelyn and Tyrion. What *was* sadly omitted was the battle at the Fist of the First Men.
@malcolmferguson48697 жыл бұрын
As much as I hated Bolton for his betrayal, the truth is, Robb f*cked up a lot, and Bolton was usually right. Robb should have listened to him more.
@danielw.83565 жыл бұрын
If he would of listened, Roose Bolton said himself that he would have most likely never betrayed him.
@darth8564 жыл бұрын
IMO, Robb not taking his advice was just an additional frustration. He switched sides after Blackwater, when the situation changed in the Lannister's favor. If Robb had followed Roose's wish to flay prisoners for information etc it would not have changed much
@YungJaime734 жыл бұрын
It's interesting to think of a timeline where Roose would have been loyal to Robb, but the books imply that Roose was scheming from the very beginning. An important detail being that during the battle of the green fork there were no Dreadfort casualties, while other northern houses (Cerwyn, Tallhart, Umber) had losses. Roose was likely holding his own men back in order to strengthen his house's position. Robb's position was unwinnable regardless with the Lannister-Tyrell alliance in the south, Stannis and Lysa Arryn refusing to ally with him and Greyjoys at his rear. The narrative really conspired to screw him over now that I think of it lol.
@MrKingYuji3 жыл бұрын
The Boltons were the second most powerful house in the north, and the Starks were weakening with the death of Ned, the capture of the Stark girls and boys, and the sacking of Winterfell. Tywin promised Roose safety is he betrayed the Starks, it was going happen eventually
@masterexploder96682 жыл бұрын
Roose made sure to always have himself covered, no matter what. He did provide a good distraction for Robb at Green Fork and was competent infantry commander, but he also made sure to conserve his own house forces, while letting others take the brunt of the damage. Rebellous nr 2 houses have such a way of being, that only might can keep them loyal. As soon as Robb was commiting blunders, Winterfell was sacked (on his orders? still a mystery, maybe he just rolled with it) and Stannis defeated, it was obvious a time to jump ship was now, might as well get something out of it. Enough of bending knees to Starks.
@nc63795 жыл бұрын
Damn this video makes me actually appreciate Roose Bolton.
@IknowRight-yb8rd2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/raXFlJSNo96VsNU .
@RyanRFC8 ай бұрын
He’s even more interesting but also scarier in the books
@bobbybaratheon46475 ай бұрын
@@RyanRFCThe actor playing Roose was great despite being different from the books, but I would've loved seeing him act like Book Roose I say he would've NAILED it.
@RyanRFC2 ай бұрын
@@bobbybaratheon4647 yeah Roose is my favorite character in the books
@bobbybaratheon4647Ай бұрын
@@RyanRFC The Storyline between The Boltons and Stannis is one I'm DESPERATE to find out what happens in WINDS. I honestly have no idea who's going to win that battle, I love Roose and Stannis characters aswell as Euron
@seanl66812 жыл бұрын
The guy that plays Roose. What a good actor. What a badass!!
@EjPwned2 жыл бұрын
What they did to his character in the end was a travesty
@lorcansavage15507 ай бұрын
You should look up an Irish comedy mockumentary called ‘paths to freedom’…He’s an even better actor than you already think, you’ll hardly believe it’s the same person. And he hilariously funny
@Chris-qo4rt2 ай бұрын
What a voice!
@Josh-cw8byАй бұрын
@@Chris-qo4rt Agreed. A voice that says leadership and strength without saying the words
@TheDeviantLord9 жыл бұрын
Robb should have listened to Roose more. Hell he should have named Roose his Hand, then perhaps much would have been different.
@GardEngebretsen9 жыл бұрын
+TheDeviantLord Nope. Roose is too ambitious and wouldve just found another way to topple him. The Boltons and Starks have been enemies in the North for thousands of years.
@mphcox22778 жыл бұрын
+GardEngebretsen yh but roose wouldn't overthrow him if he was really good at keeping stark ground
@meekmeads7 жыл бұрын
He wants the North no matter what.
@ivobraga36817 жыл бұрын
Roose himself told to Walder Frey that the main reason to betray Robb was because he was ignoring all his advices, and of course, the release of Jaime, Robb breaking a vow to marry the Frey girl, etc.
@memyselfyo88447 жыл бұрын
Well in the books he says betraying robb was a decision he took after stannis's defeat at blackwater bay, I. E that the lannisters were no longer possible to beat militarily.
@aegystierone85054 жыл бұрын
Loras has been stabbing Renly for years and still can't kill him hahahahah
@zacharysuero90122 жыл бұрын
What a helpful and loyal banner man. And his son seems quite honorable!
@hansfaagalu1172 жыл бұрын
I really hated Bolton after the wedding. But when you re-watch it, the guy was frustrated. Didn’t blame him in the end. Rob’s ignorance was his own downfall
@emperorconstantinexipalaio41212 ай бұрын
I totally blame him. What he did was absolutely unforgivable. Robb was a boy and Roose was an evil opportunist who betrayed him and helped violate one of the most sacred social mores there is.
@jamiehuynh9622Ай бұрын
@@emperorconstantinexipalaio4121Nah, he did what he felt was necessary for the preservation of his family. Robb broke his oath with Frey and then expected an apology to mend it. The way in which he and his family was killed was awful but he brought his own downfall on himself. His mother even warned him but he was too stupid to listen.
@aliensconfirmed3498Ай бұрын
@@jamiehuynh9622 No lol. Preservation of his family had nothing to do with it. Even if he saw the war is losing he could have talked to Robb about making peace. He and one or two other Northern lords talking of peace would have been enough to force Robb. He betrayed because he could have Winterfell and be warden of the north. You guys make your opinions by watching random youtube videos.
@flamingmuffin6663 жыл бұрын
The Bolton cause was tied to Stark success, if the Starks failed the Boltons failed. Roose gave Robb sound advice up until Robb betrayed the Freys, at that point Robb signed his own death warrant. Taking winterfell, alone meant nothing, but it legitimized Roose more if something happened to Robb. If the Boltons were to survive, they needed leverage and roose is nothing if not pragmatic. Edit: even taking Winterfell, if Robb never failed, meant that Roose could ask for Ramsay to be legitimized and marry possibly Arya as a reward for securing the North from the Greyjoys. Roose, the best of allies / the worst of enemies, at the same time. Brilliant.
@squamish42442 жыл бұрын
It all backfired when Tywin died. Roose couldn't have foreseen that, but once Tywin was dead he was alone considering his betrayal and how all of Westeros was disgusted by it.
@kevingonzalez55862 жыл бұрын
I believe Arya was already betrothed to one of the Frey's (when she comes of age). It was part of the deal with them. Along with Robb marrying one of the girls, having a boy as his squire (and in the books, 2 boys were send to winterfell).
@PumpkinHoard2 жыл бұрын
@@kevingonzalez5586 LOL. That was never gonna go well. Imagine the poor Frey that get's forced to marry Arya. The way she was heading at the beginning, she'd probably still wind up skinning his face without ever meeting the faceless men. Beats Joffrey. See's a guy get a chunk of wood in the neck during a joust and the look on her face just says "Ohhhhhh, that's AWESOME." Poor, dead Frey.
@nathanhursey677911 ай бұрын
@@squamish4244 actually I think Roose played it so that the freys took much of the blame.
@squamish424411 ай бұрын
@@nathanhursey6779 It still left Roose without allies and vulnerable to retribution by the North - which is in fact what happened. This plot point was certainly in line with what the never-to-be-published WoW has in mind.
@RUdigitized8 жыл бұрын
I forgot all of this. Now looking back I wonder what would have happened if Rob would have listened to him.
@oceandark30444 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest, Robb wasn't in the best of positions. He could win battles all day and night, but he didn't have nearly the men he needed to take King's Landing. The Ironborn were going to continue reaving his lands while the army was south, but if Robb took his army north, as Roose rightly told him, he'd lose the war and the recombined southern armies would march on Winterfel. He could possibly ally with Stannis, but Stannis would have demanded Robb bend the knee, which Robb wasn't going to do. So I suppose the best possible outcome would have been for Robb to return to being Warden of the North for Stannis under the assumption Tywin's relief of King's Landing wouldn't have been enough to overcome both armies, but the path to which Robb would remain king of a free and independent north was always a pipe dream. And honestly none of that had anything to do with Robb or who he married or who he executed, it was just the hand he was dealt as King in the North.
@someorclad97383 жыл бұрын
He would actually have a chance at winning. Victory is not set in stone obviously, but by taking Roose's counsel, Rob would've not been so fucked. Plus, Roose is highly intelligent, highly efficient, and utterly ruthless. These things should matter more than 'muh honour' or 'muh morality'. In the books, it goes into more detail. Such a shame that Rob has too much of his father in him.
@leonpaelinck3 жыл бұрын
Only if Stannis could take KL
@MC-xd8lp2 жыл бұрын
@@oceandark3044 southern armies can't get past moat cailin as long as it is manned
@masterexploder96682 жыл бұрын
@@MC-xd8lp The dilemma here is that Robb is King of the North AND the Trident (Riverlands). If he leaves to retake the North, then Riverlands will be in trouble again, but they could try to hold out at Riverrun against a siege (again). More pillaging ensues from Lannisters. If he won't leave to retake the North, he keeps losing legitimacy, because center of his rule is in the hands of enemy. In the books if Ramsay didn't come in and betray Stark forces at Winterfell, Rodrik Cassel would easily retake the castle. He did defeat the bait of Ironborn at Torrhen's Square left by Theon, and now would easily finish the job, no matter if Theon would kill his daughter or not.
@danielle497611 ай бұрын
Roose swore loyalty to Robb Stark and meant it! He genuinely offered him the best advice he possibly could. He only chose to defect to Team Lannister once it looked like the Starks would not win the war. I love the little details like Roose saying they can't keep too many prisoners since they barely have enough food to feed their own troops as it is. Then later of course all their tents are occupied and Roose mutters "too many prisoners." Like yes it sounded harsh to just kill everyone but it's also unwise to keep so many prisoners when there's not enough food and shelter for everyone. It's also sweet to me that Robb keeps saying "your son" in response to Roose's "my bastard" lmao
@goatsmiserable5553 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t call Bolton loyal… he was completely self interested. He definitely didn’t always plan to betray Robb, but he was certainly not trustworthy. And when he saw it was in his best interest to slaughter the Starks at the wedding for a chance at become Warden of the North then he seized the opportunity. A fair weather friend.
@Mije101-bz8ph2 ай бұрын
>Roose swore loyalty to Robb Stark and meant it! >He only defected when it looked like the Starks wouldn't win the war. LOL.....
@AntiAuthority555 жыл бұрын
I would never dare dismiss Roose or choose to talk to Talisa over him. Yes Robb would have been much wiser if he almost always did as Roose counseled.
@RegTarg0112 жыл бұрын
Ned Stark would never do it, that's for sure. But alas, Rob was too young..
@murqouttt81889 жыл бұрын
Why the fuck would u let the heir to karhold stand guard for prisoners
@paulinacampos13708 жыл бұрын
mmm well, he was the kingslayer though
@murqouttt81888 жыл бұрын
Paulina Campos still tho
@FightingStyles1018 жыл бұрын
+Murq outtt If he hadn't done that, the North may still have been in the game...
@mago22677 жыл бұрын
I know I am late, but Jaime would have offered them soldiers wealth if they released him
@JoePedo2 ай бұрын
@@mago2267 Good luck collecting on that. Jaime is a high valued prisoner FAR behind enemy lines. Even with Brienne protecting and hiding him he got recaptured within what? A couple of days.
@TheCulturalBomb8 жыл бұрын
Loved to see him before the Red Wedding, no one unsullied knew who he was or what he was going to do. Just a background character similar to Theon in a way in S1.
@SockAccount1113 ай бұрын
>emblem is literally a flayed man >talks about flaying people >lives in a place called the Dreadfort >his surname is the same as the American politician who wants to start a nuclear war with Iran, Russia and China >kinda looks like Vladimir Putin How did Robb ever trust this guy
@EineMeine2 ай бұрын
he kinda noble lord with his own army of 5000 men, even Lannisters trusted him giving title Warden of the North
@seansmith6255Ай бұрын
I mean, he kinda had to The boltons were the second most powerful house in the North if my memory serves You don't want to make enemies with the second most powerful house in your kingdom while fighting for independence Because if they rise up you can't exactly ask the south for help
@seansmith6255Ай бұрын
He ran the second most powerful house in the North Robb had no choice He's fighting for secession. if the second most powerful house feels offended and rises up you can't exactly ask the south for help He had to heed his advice if he deserted a large of robbs army would follow
@nont1841127 күн бұрын
To be fair, Robb in the books was so terrified of Roose (and rightfully so, considering how he died) but Catelyn suggested him to keep the Boltons around.
@Jarvis466 Жыл бұрын
It's a small detail but at 6:58 Roose, instead of following the other Lords, stays and stands at the ready to follow any command given. Roose is a bad man but he isn't stupid.
@josiahdoromal3 ай бұрын
A bad man, but offers good counsel and he would have stay loyal to Robb and keep listening to Roose Bolton's advice. Forsaking the marriage with the Freys was Robb's greatest mistake.
@emperorconstantinexipalaio41212 ай бұрын
@@josiahdoromalNope. He was gonna betray Robb anyways following Blackwater. He realized then that a Stark victory was almost impossible. He took the easy route out.
@pderham26Ай бұрын
Stop trying to frame mundane observations as insight.
@Jarvis46628 күн бұрын
@@pderham26 I would say "you must be fun at parties," but an invitation implies friends in the first place.
@pderham2628 күн бұрын
@@Jarvis466 >say something stupid >get told it's stupid >"Hmm I should now insult this e-stranger this will vindicate my bullshit"
@edwardstevenson88307 жыл бұрын
Does Roose remind anyone else of Putin?
@AmiWhiteWolf7 жыл бұрын
Edward Stevenson He's facial features yeah but the actor is English.
@ph897876 жыл бұрын
Irish
@irieite96664 жыл бұрын
He is the spitting image of "rats from the flats"
@TemplarX22 жыл бұрын
3:14 this is where Robb Stark really dies.
@HolyknightVader9996 ай бұрын
You can clearly see Bolton wants to help Robb do the pragmatic thing, to win the war, and yet Robb doesn't listen.
@fellowtemplar56798 жыл бұрын
Robb should've let Roose to flay a *few* prisoners...
@hayaglamazonluxe7 жыл бұрын
I like this strategy as opposed to the flaying.
@raphaelostrowski63365 жыл бұрын
Even in mediavel warfare flaying is too extreme especially with Tywin Lannister men.
@tgmartin4 жыл бұрын
I can't believe Robb wasn't even slightly disturbed by Roose casually suggesting flaying people in the same way someone would suggest having a cup of tea
@strangething73794 жыл бұрын
@@tgmartin Flaying was illegal in this time, but it'd hadn't been illegal for all that long of a time. Not to mention there were rumors that the Boltons in Dreadfort still practiced the act, so I don't think it would have been too surprising.
@spawncampe2 жыл бұрын
As Robb said, "I don't want to give the Lannisters an excuse to abuse his sisters."
@bouboutiti38405 жыл бұрын
Robb was just like his father... Too honest to rule
@spyral10512 жыл бұрын
Their honesty was probably why they ruled the North. Robb inherited a war at a huge disadvantage. Jon Snow died too but was resurrected, he was lucky Robb wasn't.
@ThatDoesntWorkForMeBrother2 жыл бұрын
@@spyral1051 Why was Jon lucky Robb wasn’t resurrected?
@spyral10512 жыл бұрын
@@ThatDoesntWorkForMeBrother Yep, Robb didn't have the Vale to bail him out, and a Red Priestess to bring him back to life. Robb actually won his battles with minimum death rate compared to Jon. Robb was the superior King in the North and I love Jon a bit more.
@aleemizcool36542 жыл бұрын
@@ThatDoesntWorkForMeBrother I think he meant that Jon Snow was lucky to be revived, but Robb wasnt as he didnt have Melisandre there
@rickstalentedtongue9102 жыл бұрын
Eddard Stark was a great ruler, such revisionist drivel. Rob was too young and asked to do everything right out of the gate, he failed. Ned was honorable and true to his word, Rob was hypocritical and made foolish mistakes. He should have never bed and married that girl.
@justinhamilton86478 ай бұрын
8:06 imagine making one of your chief generals, Lord of the second most powerful house in the north and your most powerful ally, leave your tent because some healer wants a word. What dumb writing.
@aliensconfirmed3498Ай бұрын
9/10 times when showrunners wrote something one their own it was dumb
@startrek19929 жыл бұрын
Robb really showed mercy to his enemies, low borns too, never will there be a king as him again,
@adonis11687 жыл бұрын
idiot ned still have idiot sons. although it looks like dying once has fixed jon snow
@malekiththeeternityking54337 жыл бұрын
Kadir Hizarci Be quiet feudalism might not be an abomination if every lord was like the Starks. I cant stand it when stupid fan boys attack the Starks for being Honourable rather than total assholes
@thedrinkinggamemaker97493 жыл бұрын
Good
@thedrinkinggamemaker97493 жыл бұрын
@@malekiththeeternityking5433 the Starks were assholes?
@hz.kemalpasa29972 жыл бұрын
@@thedrinkinggamemaker9749 They kinda were.
@92irishjoe5 ай бұрын
I feel like a fool after all these years not seeing the signs…Roose did want to help Robb at first but Robb basically gave Roose a deaf ear. It’s all there in front of the viewer and I was so focused on Robb winning that I ignored that he ignored anyone’s advice really
@emperorreign61542 ай бұрын
Roose Bolton: ‘He ignored my advice at every turn…if he’d been a trifle less arrogant…’ I feel he was very much genuinely on Robb’s side until he’d had enough of his naivety and saw that his arrogance and petulance would result in them inevitably losing the war.
@RegTarg0112 жыл бұрын
This man, played Roose so f'in good.. I mean I know he is not 100% same as in books.. but damn, I still watched him and seen THEE Roose Bolton. Great actor.
@Killzoneguy1176 жыл бұрын
This is the thing, if Robb had listened to Roose, I suspect him and Roose could have actually been good friends. Roose was the wise, cynical realist that Robb desperately needed at his side. A good King would listen to all arguments and view points, even the ones he doesn't like. Especially the ones he doesn't like. I get Robb was trying to be virtuous and honorable but ruling is not virtuous and rarely honorable. Obviously sure, he shouldn't start flaying his enemies or anything like that. But he should have taken Roose's advice more seriously instead of routinely dismissing him.
@matthewbrodnitz10476 жыл бұрын
Roose would have never been Robb's friend; up until the Starks lost their advantage, Roose's main objective was to gain as much favor with Robb, and thereby power and influence, as possible.
@alecjones46765 жыл бұрын
Roose would have turned on Robb all the same, despite what he claimed. Remember that speech he gave Ramsay after legitimizing him? He wouldn't have even been content as Warden of the North, he wanted to be King in the North.
@xxlCortez2 жыл бұрын
A pragmatic psychopath hardly would befriend Robb.
@jokodolog7577 жыл бұрын
if robb follow roose advise the battle ended with stark bannermem in casterly rock
@wololo37817 жыл бұрын
3:05 Lol like joffrey needed an excuse
@dagger15805 ай бұрын
I remember GRRM saying that Roose was loyal to Robb stark throughout most of the war it wasn’t until Stannis’s defeat of the battle of black water bay and Rob forsakening his vows to marrying one of the frey women was when Roose decided to betray Robb!
@lucasdamotta29315 ай бұрын
Roose was a good ally to Robb. But an ally isn’t necessarily a friend. Roose Bolton was a dangerous man, the kind of men you would want to maintain the loyalty whether it is based on honor or not. As a King he should’ve know Bolton loyalty was bargained, not true. When you’re in leadership position you need to see things as they are not as you would like.
@Kodama8672 жыл бұрын
Love him or hate him Roose Bolton had a calculating head on his shoulders and should have been heeded by his young, stubborn King.
@lionmane1569 жыл бұрын
I really wish they would have included him in his battle with tywin in season 1.
@omairsh82 жыл бұрын
This guys voice is next level
@urameshi47255 ай бұрын
Agreed, there is a cold chill about it.
@someorclad97383 жыл бұрын
Ah Rob. You're a good guy, but damn you deserve to lose. Your honour and your persistence to not listening to a guy that actually knows how to make a war is astoundingly good. Even in the books, there's not much redeeming you Rob. The flaying advice is really sound, but meh, gotta stick with honour instead of common sense. You go Roose. In books and show, you're the best. Shame your enemies poisoned you.
@maxpacius40952 жыл бұрын
Wtf In which world its common sense to flay prisoners
@jabronisauce68332 жыл бұрын
@@maxpacius4095 I mean it was war and giving the times GOT is set in a little bit of torture would not have been looked down upon that's a modern standard.
@spyral10512 жыл бұрын
You would give the enemy an excuse to rape your loves ones? The reason you went to war.
@BeeHatGuy2 жыл бұрын
@@jabronisauce6833 torture doesn't work
@jabronisauce68332 жыл бұрын
@@BeeHatGuy Ohh it does just depends how you do it that's a myth if it never worked then people would never have done it... Maybe it doesn't work when you're highly trained or when you're torturing someone for info they simply don't have but if they do have it ohh they'll sing, they'll sing hard and long but a trained seal? Yea unlikely to work.
@Darksaviour2 жыл бұрын
Man when you realize that Roose was loyal to Robb and offered him really good advice and suggestion however he choose to betray Robb because he realized Robb’s political decisions would still lead to the red wedding so he choose the side where he had the better chance of survival. I’m convinced that even if Roose didn’t betray Robb the Freya still would have and Roose would have been in me if the victims
@BadVideoWatcher19 жыл бұрын
0:40 I always thought that quip was really good.
@Heeem132 жыл бұрын
Roose was basically second in command for Robb & he was trying to do the right thing before betraying his king
@selciorjavieriaushelmann95362 жыл бұрын
Roose literally seized Winterfell, by pretending it would be “good for the northerners” by capturing Theon. Roose Bolton shows how he would do things constantly, which Robb always replies with a honourable answer. So, I mean was Roose really giving good advice to Robb?
@BanoClan5 ай бұрын
Roose actually tried to help Robb I every way he legit had no choice but to betray him
@josiahdoromal3 ай бұрын
After Robb's blunder after blunder? I think betraying an incompetent King is a sound decision. Roose was a ruthless yet an excellent commander
@souls.70332 ай бұрын
I don't know why but for some reason it always bugged me when Talissa first appeared and you could see the sparkles in Robb's eyes ... It used to piss me off every time he'd fawn over Talissa. I don't fully remember whether it was her character I didn't like or him getting sidetracked and "somewhat" forgetting his duty to his people, his father and his little sisters. From Robb's and Talissa's very first conversation, I knew it was bad news and something's about to go wrong, still, I was not ready for the red wedding. Nevertheless, as horrific as it was, I still believed that Robb and Kaitlyn somewhat deserved it.
@aliensconfirmed3498Ай бұрын
Catelyn no. Only mistake she did in this war was releasing Jaime and it was out of motherly love and this thing was not even decisive in the war. Its only major effect was Karstark killing Lannister prisoners which wasn't easily predictable. Real nail in the coffin was Robb marrying and before that sending Theon away which Catelyn adviced against.
@DigenisGR9 жыл бұрын
2 minutes and 20 bloody seconds before we start seeing Roose Bolton from a far distance. Seriously dude?
@Lach12348 ай бұрын
Every time Roose was advising Robb, Talisa always came at the wrong time. 😂
@silvernibbs2 ай бұрын
Roose wanted to be Tywin of the North, but Rob lost his faith
@misterstaple2 жыл бұрын
Rob was too idealistic and it bothered me
@jellalfernandes13092 жыл бұрын
If anything this world needs more idealistic people
@codyjohns69313 ай бұрын
Idk shot about writing but i can imagine GRRM writing about tobb and falling in love with this boy created with his his personality, character and honor and the things he dome like capturing jamie or winning a few battles and just loving eveything about him And then 1 day it hits him like a sack of bricks when he finally says to himself robb needs to die and the way he gets killed off probably forced himself to get drunk lol
@damm417 жыл бұрын
He's been stabbing renely for years and he ain't desd
@FitzroyReyes14913 ай бұрын
Roose Bolton would've been a fierce Hand of the King
@brandonslade21342 ай бұрын
Honestly i can see why roose betrayed robb. He was a skilled battle commander and did everything he could to win the ear for the north. I would have named him my hand and followed his advice closely.
@NtoTheM2 жыл бұрын
Robb was a good man, but he died for the same reason Ned died. Too much value on being the better man. There are times where keeping up your honor is the way to go, like sticking to your fkn vows and marrying who you said you would, and other times you gotta get your hands dirty, like executing/torturing prisoners for informations. He could've kept Bolton on his side by remaining strong and Frey as an ally if he hadn't betrayed him. Not to mention that executing enemies is a no-no apparently, but beheading your own bannermen and blood is a-okay. So many dumb decisions.
@Mega_vegeta2 ай бұрын
The fool in the North, if he had actually taken Roose advice he might be still alive.
@josiahdoromal3 ай бұрын
I know flaying is a horrible torture, but House Bolton are far my favorite house in GoT. Roose is a sound tactician and an excellent commander, if the young Wolf would have heeded his counsel. Fuck Robb's honor, he already lost the North for lying a peasant and breaking the vows with the Freys.
@rjhick12 жыл бұрын
The actor and character of Roose Bolton reminds me Putin. It's like Putin trying to advise Boris Yeltsin, he eventually gets annoyed and uses his own wit to better his own position
@THEJustinOfAllTime Жыл бұрын
Sometimes when I'm sad I imagine a timeline where Robb was a bit less headstrong and treated bannermen like Roose better, earning their respect but more importantly their loyalty. Maybe then no red wedding. If only!
@aliensconfirmed3498Ай бұрын
No Stark king could have won loyalty of Boltons
@buckrogers71152 ай бұрын
Rob would’ve won with Roose on his side
@MystaHector8 жыл бұрын
2:48 that was in the TellTale Game GoT "A naked man holds few secrets, a flayd men holds none"
@j.t12212 жыл бұрын
Could someone please tell me at which point did Roose Bolton decide to turn traitor. He looked very loyal in this video
@haldir31202 жыл бұрын
Probably when the king married for love instead of politics. He put his own desires above the cause. Also diverting from the war to attend a funeral is casting doubts on his focus.
@RobertoGonzalez-gg3jc2 жыл бұрын
When Robb became the King that lost the North
@harrisonjones2802 жыл бұрын
When Stannis lost the blackwater , the North was outnumbered by Tyrell and Lannister armies
@lucasdamotta29315 ай бұрын
Its in the clip. He keeps trying to council him into victory, but Robb don’t gave him credit enough. The scene in the tent when he looks back at Robb twice like “for real bro?”. He thought they were going to lose the war because of him, so he had enough after Robb lost the Frays and helped to backstab him so he could save his house from the winners wrath.
@lucasdamotta29315 ай бұрын
@@harrisonjones280i dont think they counted on Stannis that much. The war had become a secession movement from the North. They hoped to beat the southern armies and solidify the North as an independent Kingdom.
@michaelrossi51282 ай бұрын
Damn Roose is kinda a G
@akmd1143792 жыл бұрын
Talisa was annoying, but she alone didn't lose them the war, it was Robs mercy and constant mistakes that did.
@iwasnevergivenaname45588 жыл бұрын
"He wouldn't dare hurt the boys." Right. Only put an arrow through Rickon's chest.
@shapurmeadrink40497 жыл бұрын
He was talking about Theon, not Ramsay.
@costco_pizza7 жыл бұрын
Roose loved Bran and Rickon, they were his nephews. Ramsay only killed Rickon since his dad wasn't around to stop him.
@nebelung17 жыл бұрын
Bran and Rickon were not nephews of Roose.
@johncantu3797 жыл бұрын
Neue Ära technically after Ramsay married sansa they would have been related
@nebelung17 жыл бұрын
That's true john.
@ZarathustraX2 ай бұрын
7:11 is the moment he decides that he is going to betray this honourable fool the first chance he gets.
@aliensconfirmed3498Ай бұрын
No he would have betrayed at first chance anyway because he is a Bolton
@bbsolpico12 жыл бұрын
House Bolton was the ancient version of Cartel Jalisco Nueva Generacion
@xperiazip79676 жыл бұрын
"I expect his countrymen will tern on him the moment they have the offer"
@smiIingman2 жыл бұрын
Roose Bolton was pretty much the Tywin of the North in my opinion. And i still can't believe we never got a Stark vs Lannister battle on the screen let alone Robb Stark getting more fighting screentime. I genuinely feel we were robbed and that is one of the MAJOR flaws of the early seasons. But they're still better than the last 2 seasons. *ugh*
@ethanragbir83112 жыл бұрын
The main part of the Stark vs Lannister conflict was in the first 2 books (first 2 seasons of the show) but they didn't have budget to film such sequences. A lot of the cast was also not hired at that point either.
@Louey_8 жыл бұрын
Rob stark is such a drag worst "king" ever
@Gaslitelilbaby3 ай бұрын
Roose was a terrifying character , but I loved him
@TlevidsАй бұрын
4:18: Who wants to be a Millionaire, Westerosi style: Question: Why would Theon do this? A: For the glory of his House. B: To gain his father's approval. C: As revenge for being a ward of the Starks. D: Because the Greyjoys are treasonous whores. Roose [immediately and with no hesitation]: "D, final answer." Correct!
@ApplJuicerr6 жыл бұрын
Robb doesnt understand of the cruelity of this world, he should've allowed Roose to toy with flay his enemies a bit, maybe he would've been satisfied with him and wouldn't betray him.
@blingVolcano2 жыл бұрын
I think he is intimately familiar with the cruelty of the world, as illustrated by his understanding that if they torture/flay Lannister officers, that both Arya and Sansa would receive similar treatment.