Rorion Gracie Vs Benny "The Jet" Urquidez

[@Scorch1028]

Rorion Gracie's account of what happened in Black Belt Magazine in the 1990s about his Benny Urquidez challenge match in the 1970s, was much different than what Rorion says took place today. Benny Urquidez's story has remained the same over the years.

[@charlesharsha5973]

@@Scorch1028 when u lie sometimes you can’t remember what you said. When u tell the truth it’s easy to recount the story u told.

[@bernie4366]

Rorion would beat Benny 99/100 times. That's not a slam on Benny, that's just BJJ.

[@xristosrizos8406]

​@@bernie4366Benny knew Judo, and could strike. How would Rorion take down a superior judoka? He is no wrestler. BJJ convinced the masses it is a cheat code. Watch Vale Tudo

[@mtolivesecurityshipping5455]

They also wanted Joyce Gracie to fight Gene LeBell who was twice the age of him. Gene said "go get your dad, "I'll tear him up."

[@coryhollywood6021]

True story

[@morningmidnight9398]

Gene is probably lying

[@IXSuperRadGamerXI]

@@morningmidnight9398 Gene doesn't need to lie, his reputation backs that up.

[@morningmidnight9398]

@@IXSuperRadGamerXI most pathological people don't need to lie and there are many people (eyewitnesses) who descridit his stories

[@IXSuperRadGamerXI]

@@morningmidnight9398 Whatever dude, you don't have any real evidence but he-said she-said. I was referring mostly to Gene actually proving to be a real fighter on several occasions and not the movie star BS. In 1954 and ’55, LeBell won the AAU National Judo Championships heavyweight and overall divisions. He also trained some very notable people in grappling: Bruce Lee, Chuck Norris, Benny “the Jet” Urquidez, Roddy Piper, Bill “Superfoot” Wallace, Gokor Chivichyan, Steve McQueen, George Reeves, Robert Duvall, John Saxon and many more Give him some credit dude. I get you wanna be a pessimist but you're dismissing him entirely.

[@kdubb11]

Look up the story about the man who beat the Gracie elder in a match. And 4 Gracie’s beat him with a pipe 4 against 1. They were considered a national treasure in Brazil and didn’t do a single day in jail. Fascinating documentary. Never looked at them the same again. Also there’s a Japanese man called the Gracie hunter, he’s beaten like 3 of them.

[@Ben-xf7uy]

The Japanese man named 'The Gracie Hunter' was Kazushi Sakaraba. The baddest Japanese man to ever fight MMA. Guy is a real legend in the fight community

[@IXSuperRadGamerXI]

@@Ben-xf7uy I believe he is referring to the incident with Ruffino Dos Santos. A catch wrestler who defeated Carlos Gracie. The other Gracies then proceeded to dishonor themselves and attack Ruffino with a pipe later on.

[@Ben-xf7uy]

@@IXSuperRadGamerXI you are right! Thank you for the info! That is the man that was beaten with a pipe. I was referring to the last part about the Japanese guy called the 'Gracie Hunter'. I should of made that more clear

[@IXSuperRadGamerXI]

@@Ben-xf7uy Oh no worries brother, I'm honestly just trying to be helpful lol. Just glad that these events have come to light and people are spreading the word about how the Gracie's actually are and much unlike the image they project onto the masses. Cheers!

[@flowrepins6663]

you better learn the names.and respect sakuraba properly..the brazilian guy u mention is rufino dos santos and there were 3 vs 1. theres also lot of cheating..eugenio tadeu,.got cheated and the fadda family beaten gracies..

[@billuk1413]

The benny version is somewhat different while he was abroad fighting Gracie’s ran a challenge ad in a Hollywood paper knowing he was not around. When he came back he trained with gene ready for the challenge and he could not get an answer on the phone. I know who I believe.

[@1_Bad_Z]

This is the story I heard.

[@aquaticlibrary]

Gracie’s are known for lying since the Kimura match.

[@graciederangementsyndrome3669]

@@aquaticlibrary They sometimes stretch the truth but rarely do they ever duck matches.

[@graciederangementsyndrome3669]

@Bill UK IMO both sides of the story are difficult to verify since it's mostly hearsay. At the end, neither side could make an agreement

[@yendysmarsh]

Yeh I also believe Rorion Gracie, they maybe known for petty things but turning down a fight is not one of them..

[@kevinbishop6582]

Is this called the shit talking series? I understand. The older I get the better I used to be too. At this point, everyone should acknowledge that the art of fighting has now evolved well beyond the contributions of the Gracie‘s. Be humble.

[@mikeaziz5040]

I will never believe this story Benny has a black belt in Judo and used to compete so this story is bullshit.He could never humble Benny " The Jet"

[@cuzz63]

Chuck Norris had a black belt in Judo and the Gracies handled him... a Judo black belt is about equal to a Blue in BJJ.

[@dragondon]

I wrestled in college and understand that once I "take down" any fighter to the ground, there is no more boxing or kickboxing. So, unless you study the grappling arts, you will be at a large disadvantage. You must study "ground fighting" or Jiu Jitsu, as well as, the striking arts to be a well rounded Mixed Martial Arts Fighter. It is a concept Bruce Lee believed in during the 60's-70's.

[@killaben85]

Interesting thing is Benny Urquidez studied Judo which is what helped him fighting under International Rules in the Clinch. The issue is Benny is an In-Fighter so that aggressive style, not knowing how to deal with leg takedowns, and being the inferior fighter on the ground. Were probably the key factors.

[@pablono100]

Ok do that against 2 dudes and see how it goes

[@oldironsides4107]

@pavlono100 That’s Don the dragon Wilson. One of the greatest kickboxers of all time and was a college wrestler

[@jhue73]

its ground and pound ive seen it so many times, jiu jitsu fighters get beat to a pulp just like gracie. just like brock lesnar did to fighters. the one who can take the most and is the toughest with the most will wins.

[@claudiodominguez.]

Benny's mother was a wrestler and he studied many martial arts. If you shoot at Benny you get a knee to the face.

[@BRUCEJJ66]

Coming soon, the story of when Rorion Gracie beat Jigoro Kano. He also beat Musashi Miyamoto, took him to the ground, choked him out, repeatedly.

[@gqloc6768]

Coming soon, Rorion beats Big Foot by mata sasquatch in minus degree weather 5 miles up in the mountains that he climbed after hitching ride with the Army 101st and parachuting to the ground.

[@WolframtheBlessed3499]

@@gqloc6768 mata sasquatch.....oh shit, yours was the comment of the day ROFLMAO!!!!😂😂😂

[@andrejuthe]

Cooming soon, Rorion beats the Hulk, Thor, and super man simultaneously by taking them to the ground and repeatedly chooking them out all at the same time. Unfortunately, there was no film recording it, and no one to witness it whatsoever . .

[@ScorpionSuerte]

The thing is Rorion was openly announcing to take on all comers in no rules challenge matches for years, and not one known martial artist accepted.

[@andrejuthe]

@@ScorpionSuerte No rules? Even allowing biting in the crotch, poking the eyes etc?

[@marcusvalera5406]

Another "DUX" story.

[@jopalo31675]

This never happened. Benny told them to get lost. They wanted him to fight for free. Benny is a small guy.

[@smiley-qb3nt]

Benny has beat guys 100 pounds heavier in open weight division. Obviously he wasn't a grappler . But Benny wanted to train with gene lebell too they didn't want to do that . Too risky

[@tkdguy5494]

@@smiley-qb3nt I seriously doubt that. Whatever anyone thinks of the Gracies, one thing I gotta give them credit for is that they back up their claims.

[@scottwheeler2679]

@@smiley-qb3nt Benny did train with Gene for 6 months. Rorion's story is total BS

[@TheCristianalvarez]

@@tkdguy5494 benny did in fact fight a heavy and dropped him and took him down. Look it up, its benny vs dana goodson

[@stevenenglish9716]

Benny is the same size as Royler… none of the Gracie’s are big.. tall skinny at best..

[@donnyjackberg6062]

Rorian back at it with his BS, such a liar lol. Glad everyone’s caught onto this.

[@ScorpionSuerte]

Cope

[@superstrangevideo]

It's actually true, but Urquidez has an ego the size of Texas, and has tried his best to hide this incident. When the UFC first premiered in 1993, Urquidez was quoted as saying "it's the worst thing ever to happen to the martial arts". He was also quoted as calling the UFC "barbaric and disgusting". What does that statement tell you? Hopefully, we're on the same page.

[@anastaciolepe6168]

I trained at the original Jet Center in Van Nuys. Taught by Benny, Blinky and his wife Lily. Benny would smash any stand up fighter.

[@superstrangevideo]

It's actually true, but Urquidez has an ego the size of Texas, and has tried his best to hide this incident. When the UFC first premiered in 1993, Urquidez was quoted as saying "it's the worst thing ever to happen to the martial arts". He was also quoted as calling the UFC "barbaric and disgusting". What does that statement tell you? Hopefully, we're on the same page.

[@Justin-j6u]

Me to. I was friends with Kelly L. ,Doris w. ,Gabriel r. and his late brother sunny. Little Louie who teaches in Grenada hills, and sensei para. Sensei Reuben,sensei lilli, sensei smiley, I won second place at the internationals Long Beach arena 1989. I don't believe this dudes story one bit! 😂

[@mikeboone8140]

I'm from Salt Lake City, and when I was 13 years old back in 1993, I went to the Jet Center and met Benny, Blinky, Petey and Marshall Teague, and they were all so cool, and when Benny heard that we were visiting from out of town, he invited my brother and I to train there for free, and Petey and Marshall were giving us tips on our roundkicks. Great memory!

[@ransomedavis2208]

i respect the gracies but i know win or lose Benny would never turn down a challenge or run away from one. maybe someone is telling afew porkies.

[@Paul-de2wh]

The Gracies are great story tellers. Where are they now? Answer hiding under a rock! You don't need to waste 8 years of your life learning Jiu-Jitsu but a a few moths neutralizing it. :)) The story that Jiu-Jitsu would work for the skinny guy was a nice story. All the Gracies are not competing in the UFC, why because they've lost many times. They were humiliated by Sakuraba in Japan too. They always look for an excuse. And my friends they Gracies surrendered to Sakuraba, they threw the towel. By the way, the first UFC followed special rules imposed by Rorion that favor Royce. Royce used illegal drugs and he was defefead many times. The myth was over. Jiu-Jitsu can NOT win in the UFC, look at the statistics. The Gracies do NOT compete in Vale Tudo nor in the UFC because Jiu-Jitsu alone is not enough. They got their ass kicked.

[@hori83]

I don't know all the details, but noone should be ashamed for stepping in the ring. But yeah, I think the Royce/Saku fight was an hour straight, so in favour for the BJJ guy, kind of. Gracie JJ seems to be great, but you'll probably have a hard time against well rounded and strong fighters.

[@Seraphoverpheonix]

@Kevin Geaslin boxing has inside fighting and clinching

[@ScorpionSuerte]

@Kevin Geaslin You can neutralise 20 years of boxing with one class of freestyle wrestling.

[@IXSuperRadGamerXI]

@@ScorpionSuerte You are not going to easily beat a Pro boxer with jujitsu. They have amazing footwork, they can knock you out with just a well timed blow. Most grapplers are not conditioned well enough to take those kind of shots. You have to get the guy in a clean hold or onto the ground first. That’s not easy when they’re moving like lightning. Quit being such a dope dude there is no perfect martial art, including your precious BJJ..

[@turntablesrockmyworld9315]

@@IXSuperRadGamerXI In the first UFC, Art Jimmerson was a IBF top 10, and was taken down and mounted by Royce Gracie without much effort. All the early "pure" boxers were easily taken down in the first few UFCs.

[@stewartheather5654]

Seem to remember that the gracies put out this $1000 challenge to any champions in the 80s and benny the jet was 1 of the guys who said he would fight u but u kept changing the goal post ???

[@jopalo31675]

It was more. Than they dropped it to $1,000. Then they said for free. He laughed it off as a promotional stunt. He told them to get lost. He was retired already. Benny is only 5 foot 6 inches 150 pounds( Rorion is around 5’-11” or 6’-0 tall). Royce who is 15 years younger challenge him years later. Royce is 6’-1”. For free again. Rickson says he’s 300-0 in street fights. These guys are too much.

[@superstrangevideo]

@@jopalo31675 He'd go down like the rest of them ass clown. There's a reason the top name kickboxers NEVER challenged the Gracie's, or took up challenges from them. Get the picture?

[@sponebob91]

Benny the jet would mop the floor with that man

[@deejin25]

If Rorian lived five lifetimes he wouldn't have accomplished what Either Benny the Jet Or Hee Ill Cho did, fact, full stop,

[@paulpolpiboon9535]

Yup.

[@jorndoff2002]

Rorian created a jiu jitsu revolution worldwide. Something much bigger than appearing in magazines or winning kickboxing titles. Rorian is way more important to the martial arts than either of those people.

[@Katzenhase]

@@jorndoff2002 No, it was Helio.

[@vedder10]

@@Katzenhase Sorry but without Rorion there would be no UFC. Helio was the art, Rorion was the revolution.

[@Katzenhase]

@@vedder10 That´s correct, of course.

[@RGTomoenage11]

Benny would have backed kicked him back into traditional jujitsu 😂

[@ScorpionSuerte]

Cope

[@tommartinez3840]

Hard to back kick when your on the ground 🤣😂🤣

[@RGTomoenage11]

@@tommartinez3840 😂

[@IXSuperRadGamerXI]

@@ScorpionSuerte You're on here just saying cope. I'm just going to keep reporting you for spam. The only one who needs to cope is you, FANBOY.

[@flowrepins6663]

@@tommartinez3840 benny knew judo and some grappling but his lighting speed could very well knock gracie out before he grabbed him. we couldnt know who would win unless they fight..would be nice to see it, but i would h8 if the gracies won

[@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252]

I don't doubt the skills of this man and I understand that in Mr. Gracie's mind he's most likely telling the truth as he remembers it but there's two sides to every story and he seems to be insinuating certain things about Mr. Urquidez' mental state or character that show him in an unflattering light. I would hope that the competition success etc. of the Gracie family would speak for itself and spreading rumors would be unnecessary.

[@tonyfeliciano2717]

Benny's brother Rubén Urquidez used to be my kickboxing coach Back in 1977

[@omega-manthe8346]

I also do there is no way, he just did that ten times against the jet? And didnt get knocked out when comin crotch first everytime.

[@kevinbishop6582]

I certainly would like to hear the other side of the story. The fact that he’s up here broadcasting his tales of conquest actually speaks more to his character as a martial artist.

[@amberharmsen2497]

You would think Benny and his 67-1 record would speak for itself Technically 67-0 But the Gracie family since day one has always been about changing the rules to better suit them The simple fact of the matter is that if you look at the advertising and what they say about other people They are far from humble and in my opinion the Gracie family as a whole is disgraceful

[@oldironsides4107]

Rorion and his sons tou don’t even have to go their gyms online classes. Belt promotions you just pay money and never step on a mat or grapple anyone and you can be a black belt someday. It’s an absolute farce

[@michaelmckay3179]

Benny would never turn down a fight let alone a rematch with someone he lost to...or least so Rorion says

[@ScorpionSuerte]

Cope

[@IXSuperRadGamerXI]

@@ScorpionSuerte fight never happened, bennie might dodge many blows but he just doesn’t ever dodge a fight, pal.

[@ScorpionSuerte]

@@IXSuperRadGamerXI Cope

[@IXSuperRadGamerXI]

@@ScorpionSuerte Spam.

[@IXSuperRadGamerXI]

@@ScorpionSuerte "The former three-time UFC tournament winner tested positive for the anabolic steroid Nandrolone following a 2007 victory over Kazushi Sakuraba. The win was subsequently overturned and the California State Athletic Commission slapped him with a $2,500 fine and a one-year suspension. Gracie hasn't competed since." Your guys are proven liars, and cheat. Sakuraba tore through every one of them and they manage a decision when the guys old, Sakuraba, by the way, clearly should have won that fight by decision as well. COPE.

[@adielkhan3568]

I love these stories but can I hear the ones with Sakuraba against Royce Gracie, Royler Gracie, Renzo Gracie and Ryan Gracie please

[@ballshippin3809]

Even these many years later you can tell the Gracies really don't want to mention Sakuraba 😆. He really humbled them all.

[@flowrepins6663]

rufino dos santos, eugenio tadeu and fadda family too

[@bunkaiking]

Benny is a black belt in judo so he would of held his own. Even on the ground. Fabricated stories is what this family do

[@wasabi5338]

yeah what a clown, Benny is a well rounded fighter ahead of his time, and those guys are what this family had the most problems with.

[@voce3337]

Kkkkkk you proved you never learned a Jiu Jitsu lesson. Actually, you dont even know what it is about.

[@oldironsides4107]

@Bigger Issues I agree with you but when people say they cheat because of the rules No time limits is the best rule set. Headbutts all of that. Just no eye gouge. Or fishhooks. Or biting. Groin strikes were ok.

[@ronniepaul452]

@Kevin Geaslin Benny was also trained by the godfather of grappling Gene LeBell.. Chuck Norris was trained by that level..

[@jopalo31675]

This never happened. They wanted the retired Benny to fight for free. He told them to get lost. He figured it was a promotional stunt. Benny is a little guy. Royce called Benny out years later. For free. Royce is 6-1” and Benny is 5-6”. Royce is 15 years younger.

[@weakfrontkick]

I'm not calling you a liar but this all feels very story time with Steven Segalish to me.... also learn how to tie your belt, you're a grand master its embarrassing.

[@Robbo3369]

hahaha

[@Fang_Face]

You clowns chose stand up fighters, not Greco roman wrestlers, lol.

[@baindon719]

The Gracie system speaks for it self Benny the the Jets fight record speaks for it self

[@superstrangevideo]

It's actually true, but Urquidez has an ego the size of Texas, and has tried his best to hide this incident. When the UFC first premiered in 1993, Urquidez was quoted as saying "it's the worst thing ever to happen to the martial arts". He was also quoted as calling the UFC "barbaric and disgusting". What does that statement tell you? Hopefully, we're on the same page.

[@shawnsmith9649]

Rorion never does videos about his losses, such as his ill-fated encounter with Ed Parker. What Royce did in the early UFC is impressive, but the Gracies didn't do so well in Pride where they couldn't manipulate the rules. Having pointed that out, I have respect for the Gracies and their version of jiu-jitsu.

[@ranchlife8128]

First, there was never an "ill-fated encounter" with Ed Parker. Rorion would have smoked him in seconds just like all the other videos of Gracies smoking Kenpo instructors in seconds. Second, Rickson Gracie was the undefeated Pride champion for years as well as other Gracies. Learn before you post.

[@arindambanerjee3326]

Please give details the fight between Ed Parker and Rorion Gracie

[@jamesd7723]

Kazushi Sakuraba Kimura Defeated 4 of them Royler Gracie, Renzo Gracie, Ryan Gracie, and Royce Gracie.

[@damionstr1ke]

Two things that make this a little hard to believe: 1. The Gracies didn't show up to fight anyone at a school without recording, taking pictures and/or bragging about it so they could sell their school as #1 in Brazil and eventually the world. So how he just went there with his buddy and his mom or whatever seems far fetched. 2. Benny the Jet was a professional fighter and it seems out of character that he would go out of his way to set up a sparring match with some random guy for no money. Hearing his stories he always spoke about how he was constantly challenged but didn't step up until money was involved. I could be wrong, but this just seems a bit unbelievable to be true.

[@cuzz63]

"Benny the Jet was a professional fighter and it seems out of character that he would go out of his way to set up a sparring match with some random guy for no money." Sparring is training, not fighting.

[@damionstr1ke]

@@cuzz63 yes, I know that. I'm saying that setting up a secret sparring match when you're a professional fighter seems out of character. Especially with how many times he would have been challenged back in his prime.

[@superstrangevideo]

It's actually true, but Urquidez has an ego the size of Texas, and has tried his best to hide this incident. When the UFC first premiered in 1993, Urquidez was quoted as saying "it's the worst thing ever to happen to the martial arts". He was also quoted as calling the UFC "barbaric and disgusting". What does that statement tell you? Hopefully, we're on the same page.

[@damionstr1ke]

@superstrangevideo how can you confirm its true? I'm saying that it's "far fetched" since it doesn't align with how Gracies behaved at their inception...going to schools and recording so they can show others they're the best. Heck, they created the UFC just to display their "superiority". So if I can say that it's far fetched but cannot claim that it's false, where is your evidence to say it is true?

[@JD-df3zl]

It's like when Rickson claims his record is 400-0 😂😂😂 I wish he could show us atleast 50 of them😂😂😂

[@deejin25]

"You can't go to peoples schools and challenge them" just watched a video where he went to Hee Il Cho's school, asked him if he could use HIS space to teach jujutsu, then argued with him, then escalated into a challenge, Cho hit him with a controlled spin kick, which he pretended didn't exist, then closed in and initiated a takedown. Dude the more of these videos I watch the lower my opinion of you, and I did Brazillian Jujutsu for a year, practiced punch defenses and self defense about five times in that period.

[@davefletch3063]

@Kevin Geaslin it isn’t hard to counter the take down, and obliterate the GJJ

[@ScorpionSuerte]

@@davefletch3063 See Royce Gracie vs Kimo, Hackney, Severn.

[@davefletch3063]

@@ScorpionSuerte I watched all those fights when they happened. Back then people didnt learn take down defense. In a real fight today Royce would have been in serious trouble using the method he used for his take downs. All fun to watch though

[@ScorpionSuerte]

@@davefletch3063 That was one of the most moronic responses I've ever read. Dan Severn had no takedown defense? LMFAO. I suggest you go rewatch all those fights as your memory is severely lacking.

[@superstrangevideo]

It's actually true, but Urquidez has an ego the size of Texas, and has tried his best to hide this incident. When the UFC first premiered in 1993, Urquidez was quoted as saying "it's the worst thing ever to happen to the martial arts". He was also quoted as calling the UFC "barbaric and disgusting". What does that statement tell you? Hopefully, we're on the same page.

[@rhythmbeats2529]

The jet, is a bad man 👊🏼

[@crestwoodable]

What about 3 Gracie’s on 1 wrestler?????

[@flowrepins6663]

rufino dos santos

[@samtaurus007]

Ahhh, another guy who clearly attended the Steven Seagal school of Utter Bullshito. :)

[@fayyazalli1295]

Whether you believe this story or not , the martial arts world was made better by the Gracie family. Thank you Sir for making Jiu Jitsu global in the first ever UFC. We love the simplicity and effectiveness of Jiu Jitsu.

[@bongothom]

I'm an old man who started karate in the late 1970's. I remember the first UFC. You are absolutely correct. The Gracie family taught us all the importance of ground skills.

[@greencraig8570]

I would trust Benny Urquidez over the Gracies any day.

[@Austinkungfuacademy]

Loving these comments!!

[@mathewanderson]

They fixed the 1st ufc mad matches to make Gracie loom good

[@killaben85]

Bill "Superfoot" Wallace would have been an interesting fight against a Gracie. Since unlike Benny he was an out fighter and before he ever got in karate or kickboxing he was a College Wrestler and a Judoka

[@oldironsides4107]

Why fight him when you can challenge a 5’2 hapkido naster who doesn’t even strike

[@Katzenhase]

Bill Wallace wouldn´t have had a chance against a Gracie. Chuck Norris was also a black belt in judo and he was trained by Gene LeBell in grappling. It didn´t help him at all against Royce and Rickson Gracie in 1988 when they were rolling. Norris said he was like an amateur. The problem for the Gracie´s were however that people learned BJJ and become better. Look at Ken Shamrock, he lost the first fight against Royce but a couple of years later in their second fight he didn´t.

[@IXSuperRadGamerXI]

@@Katzenhase Your fanboyism is showing.

[@Katzenhase]

@@IXSuperRadGamerXI Why?

[@IXSuperRadGamerXI]

@@Katzenhase Gene Lebell has: 10th degree red belt in Judo 9th degree black belt in Jujutsu 10th degree black belt in Kyokushin Gene knew his stuff.

[@bowielukas6815]

Next story : when the gracies defeated Bruce lee and after that Godzilla with a rear choke......

[@danrod3790]

I guess there's always 2 sides of the story. Thank you for sharing.

[@jamesd7723]

Talk about the gracie hunter

[@marcelocolle1002]

Marco Ruas

[@davefletch3063]

I loved watching his fights

[@freecheese4143]

Benny was in Judo 1st right?

[@markdominguez8435]

That's why as a Martial Artists you must leave your ego and stay Humble. Learn every technique that works in real combat or sports combat and you will be a real Martial Arts practitioner!

[@matthewgranahan9759]

Always the hero of their own BS stories 😂

[@francorubino4902]

benny the best to this day

[@andrejuthe]

Is there any evidence for this story?

[@Ben-xf7uy]

No its mostly hearsay. Both sides tell different stories. If you go to the Viking Samurai channel he does an interview with Benny and talks about it. Personally, i believe Benny. It sounded like the Gracies kept making changes to the rules but check it out yourself

[@andrejuthe]

@@Ben-xf7uy Thanks for the tip. It was as I suspected then.

[@ToGuyFor]

The gracies, bullies who buy their own b.s.

[@drummer2776]

Why is there no vhs of this shit?

[@cor2250]

😂becouse its a lie

[@boereburger6762]

Whenever a Gracies lips move, arrogance, pride and exagerations pour from their mouths.

[@ScorpionSuerte]

Dya really think a 5'6" kickboxer could've beat Rorian pre-UFC?

[@IXSuperRadGamerXI]

@@ScorpionSuerte That wasn't any ordinary 5'6" kickboxer. He had between 1974 and 1993, he amassed a documented professional record of 49-1-1 (win-loss-draw) with 35 knockouts and two controversial no-contests, although he is also supposed to have an additional record of 10-0-1 (10 KOs) in undocumented professional fights, making a total of 59-1-2-2 (45 KOs). The guy trained in a plethora of different martial arts, INCLUDING JUDO, and has fought in multi-styled tournaments not just kickboxing. Wiht Gene Lebell as a friend of his along with many other influential martial artists. It is plain to see why Rorion would make this crap up.

[@tac3523]

they back it up tho so. yup

[@ScorpionSuerte]

@@IXSuperRadGamerXI Why not enter UFC early days and win it all?

[@drummer2776]

Post the vhs of this

[@Katzenhase]

The problem is that Benny was a great stand-up fighter but when you put those guys on the ground, they´re helpless because they were used to fight in a stand-up position and didn´t have any knowledge about BJJ. The same with Chuck Norris, great fighter in the 60´s and early 70´s but when he sparred with Rickson and Royce in 1988, he was like an amateur on the ground according to Chuck. Keep in mind that Norris was a black belt in judo and was trained by Gene LeBell in grappling but when he met the Gracie´s, he didn´t have a chance in grappling. After meeting the Gracie´s Norris started in BJJ and is now a multiple black belt. Rorion: It would be great when you would speak one day about Chuck Norris and what ended up your relationship. I heard it had something to do with money because you demanded too much money. But there must be a reason because after that he was trained by your cousins the Machado´s.

[@gqloc6768]

Sorry Gracie balls cleaner but you're wrong!

[@ronniepaul452]

Benny the jet was trained by the godfather of grappling Gene LeBell.. that is different from Chuck Norris case

[@davefletch3063]

You don’t know much about The Jet

[@Katzenhase]

@@davefletch3063 I know a lot about Benny.

[@superstrangevideo]

Norris was a phony point Karate guy. The likes of him don't even belong in the discussion. He has told that lie about being a professional fighter so many times that he actually believes that fantasy himself. Apparently, so do you!

[@bobhebel4116]

Fascinating stuff, Rorion! For some reason, I always thought Benny was an early adopter of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (like Dan Inosanto and Chuck Norris). I wonder if Benny has since trained in BJJ? I know that he eventually started cross-training in Muay Thai after some challenging encounters with MT fighters. So Benny has demonstrated a willingness to learn new martial arts.

[@robertgasper2495]

I don't doubt that Benny could lose to Rorion if he did not know him or his style of BJJ. Anytime people are faced with something new they can be a victim to it until it is understood. If Benny were in his prime with the skills he had and had been given the training in BJJ that is available today he would have probably defeated any of the Gracies' that are his size. He was a superior athlete.

[@tkdguy5494]

Against a Gracie his size I wouldn't get surprised if he won to begin with. His striking/stand up would be superior to the Gracies. And what I understand he studied Judo. It seems like people forget that grappling existed long before BJJ.

[@CloudsBeyond]

Rorion talks sheer flatulence albeit good at promoting himself. What happened with Rorion going in UFC? He pooped his pants at the mere thought of it, as did Rickson. Truth is even before UFC the Gracie's LOST matches and fights, they lost some of the Gracie challenge matches but naturally those are the ones they don't talk about to make it seem like they were invincible. Rorion and Royce were poor athletes but good at BJJ and they relied on fighting people who did not know defences against it.

[@jerrymorelos6397]

So you know how to defend against bj

[@jamesspringer1161]

The Jet was the best full contact fighter I ever saw.

[@louisviola9763]

Why don’t you tell us the story about where your brother bought his steroids and still lost?

[@oldironsides4107]

No. Royce won that second sakuraba fight. Lol

[@devriestown]

Royce popped for gear

[@kracksmith4ejm1]

Rorion, make a vdo about Helio and Gene Lebel altercation. I think it was Helio will give up his age if Gene will lose weight and it'll be a fight.

[@Katzenhase]

That was just media talk to get attention. LeBell was much heavier than Helio Gracie and also much younger. It would have been unfair.

[@oldironsides4107]

People think helio was magical and could beat up most of the planet at 90. I’m not even kidding

[@SnakePlissken-gk7ix]

It almost sounds like Rorion's student was instigating Benny and Rorion.

[@kingbernie4303]

All these people acting like BJJ just demolishes kickboxing obviously never heard of a man named MIRKO CRO-COP

[@Ben-xf7uy]

Just look at Israel Adesanya. Guy has defended the belt like 6 times. Never gone for a take down once

[@flowrepins6663]

well crocop knew jiu jitsu do defend him self if he went to the ground. he fought the hibrid completa era of mma. not style vs style

[@kingbernie4303]

@@flowrepins6663 Go watch his early MMA, he picked it up on the way... he was beating the shit out of submission artists before he learned jiu jitsu at any effective level given the the competition... dude was a straight warrior Striker**

[@superstrangevideo]

What you don't seem to understand is that back when Benny and all these other so called masters were challenged, no one had enough grappling experience back then to counter the moves, like we see today. So you are confusing what's been done more recently, with what was done in 1988. Why isn't this obvious to you? Like grow up dude.

[@johng7681]

I have yet to see the Gracie’s win a competition that was not rigged with special rules in their favor. Certain people were turned away from the first UFC’s because the Gracie’s did not want to get dominated by other grapplers. The Gracie Scam Jitsu legends have 0 success in MMA since it is no longer owned by them to rig in their favor. Don’t get me wrong. They did a lot for Jiu Jitsu and I enjoy training it. It is not him the Christ of martial arts and the Gracie’s are far better scam artist than martial artists.

[@ScorpionSuerte]

By "special rules" you mean LESS rules?

[@cuzz63]

thats false. nobody was turned away from the early UFC's. If the Gracies were protecting Royce it would have made no sense to allow Shamrock in or Dan Severn.

[@ScorpionSuerte]

@@cuzz63 Marco Ruas had been challenging Rickson before UFC. I'm sure he wouldn't have rejected an invite. Also Rorion admitted they would've needed Rickson instead of Royce if Alexander Karelin had entered. Nobody high level in judo, sambo or luta livre was invited to enter until Royce stopped participating.

[@cuzz63]

@@ScorpionSuerte the invitations were open, they didnt send out personal invites although they did publically call out a number of fighters. ... Dennis Alexio, Benny Urquidez, Stan Longinidis, Jean-Yves Thériault, Rick Roufus, Stan Longinidis, Maurice Smith, Bart Vale, Hee Il Cho, George Dillman, Gene LeBell, Rob Kaman, Peter Aerts, Ernesto Hoost, Masaaki Satake, were among the others "publicly invited" .... . Gerard Gordeau was 1991 World Champion Savate and holder of the Dutch Champion Karate title for 8 consecutive years. Remco Pardoel was a Judo champ and larger that Gracie and still got beat. Christophe Leininger was a Judo Champ and an alternate on the Olympic team. He got beat against Shamrock though.

[@cuzz63]

@@ScorpionSuerte Rickson had an open challenge, called everyone out before he left Brazil and Ruas wanted none of it.

[@pgarza1218]

The importance of agility, charisma, and strategy in grappling.practitioners need to be able to adapt to different situations and opponents, using their knowledge of techniques and body positioning to gain an advantage.

[@timwiggins3795]

I wished y'all make a movie 🎥 it'll be much better than what we're use to

[@anthonyurquidez5598]

I think that you should use our platform to support other Sensis and Grand Master then try and say you were unstoppable. Your comparing apples to oranges. Stay in your lane and support others styles because they are all unique.

[@anthonyurso9366]

Are you related to Benny the jet? If so what really happened because I don’t believe gracies

[@JosephLi-v9o]

These Gracies are absolutely fabulous at self promotion! They have on so many occasions “changed “ a story as time goes by! Give it another 10 years and he would remember how he chocked out superman !!!

[@arindambanerjee3326]

Rorion please publish the fight of you with Frank Dux before UFC when you invited him in your Dojo.I am interested to see the fight.

[@EvokAi]

This is true, striking and kicking really had no chance against juijitsu back then, even chuck norris got choked in seconds by gracie

[@keithgour5236]

This isn’t the 80s. Strikers are well versed on the ground now.

[@ScorpionSuerte]

You mean they learnt jiu jitsu because Rorion successfully demonstrated it's necessity to the world?

[@keithgour5236]

@@ScorpionSuerte Yep I agree. BJJ is an incredibly effective and beautiful art however my point still stands.

[@jacobharris954]

So was benny.

[@royfrancis9576]

I have a hard time believing that he just took Benny to the Ground. Benny did judo and I've seen videos of Benny sweeping dudes off their feet from clinch. IDK maybe Gracie as just that good.

[@superstrangevideo]

It's actually true, but Urquidez has an ego the size of Texas, and has tried his best to hide this incident. When the UFC first premiered in 1993, Urquidez was quoted as saying "it's the worst thing ever to happen to the martial arts". He was also quoted as calling the UFC "barbaric and disgusting". What does that statement tell you? Hopefully, we're on the same page.

[@George-dy3pt]

​@superstrangevideo quit lying! Benny doesn't have no ego you clown

[@MMZS528]

Rorion's stories have this underlying theme of him humiliating other martial arts masters, exposing their arrogance and ignorance, while he takes subtle jabs at them masked in humility. It's fascinating and infuriating at the same time to see him continue to do this. It's as if his audience hasn't grown in intelligence from the early 90s when BJJ was relatively unknown and MMA wasn't a household name.

[@hugohackenbush1554]

You can always tell when he's bullshitting because his lips move.

[@MacRambles]

If this amazing fight actually happened where are the pictures and video. When ever a Gracie won a fight they all had lots of videos but when they lost they supposedly chose not to take videos and pictures... BULLSHIT!!!

[@generallobster]

Unfortunately I watched the helio vs kimura match on KZbin. You can too, but don’t do it if you want to believe everything about Gracie jiujitsu. It’s sort of shattering.

[@glenntimmons1673]

Good story different styles..distance vs close now combine them: 2 better than 1

[@anthonymagallan3508]

So what was the point of this video? They still beefing? Haha

[@jonathanschisler5165]

Martial arts are all different. Just like egos. lol It's the person that makes it what it is.

[@HEADLINEZOO]

Benny could wrestle and was great at throws. He also had KO power.

[@tombstoneharrystudios584]

How do you know if a Gracie is exaggerating? Their mouths are open 😂

[@rrtodd95]

The Gracie’s stories are getting out of hand.

[@superstrangevideo]

And what's stopping Benny the braggart from responding to the story, which is well known now, even on Wiki, but not using Benny's name?

[@musictlc1]

This is BS

[@JavierElias-pt4ik]

This guys bullshit Benny would knock this guy

[@MotorhomeManuals]

yaaa... Benny Urquidez 5′ 6″, Weight 145 lbs - Rorion Gracie 6'2" 165lb

[@Veloce2000]

Okay fair enough the Gracies did conquer UFC for awhile in 90s but had their losses too. To my knowledge at least 2x. A japanese Judoka beat a Gracie by submission & Strongman Marquiz KO a Gracie with a punch. -There's no 1 particular style or persons who is Numero Uno.

[@adielkhan3568]

They didn't conquer anything, just beat people who didn't know what they were doing on the ground. They just took advantage, when people got to grips with the basics of ground, it was all over. Where are the 'legends' now, not one of them get anywhere, they got now dozens of children each. Kron is probably the only one who has won a few.

[@Veloce2000]

@@adielkhan3568Yes. i see your point.

[@flowrepins6663]

kimura with judo and sakuraba but there are others

[@omega-manthe8346]

I'm having a hard time believing you just rushed in and took him down, everytime. That's gotta be cap your not rushing in without catchin some sort of hook and or a good leg kick.

[@WolframtheBlessed3499]

Yeah Benny had a judo background too.

[@omega-manthe8346]

@@WolframtheBlessed3499 Fr fr dude wasn't just doing this, I know the whole gracie's legacy shit is to be adhered but this shit has gone too far not just him but a lot of what they say other tjen what we've actually seen them all do, which is a good bjj fighting history and pretty well in mma/pride mostly. But shit all these would be story's have been proven false by either the people involved or those others around The gracie's have always had this crazy ass believe it regardless when it comes to their family and push that same narrative type shit look at the documentary with the twins talking about the match with their grand father and the Hawaiian fighter not only of course did the judo man actually beat their grand dads ass fairly easily they lied about his practice saying it was old school Japanese jujitsu vs bjj hell nah.

[@kadasrichard]

The Gracies are good with surprise assaults. They did the same with Rufino Dos Santos.

[@kdubb11]

@@omega-manthe8346 and they jumped him and beat him with a lead pipe. The Gracie’s have zero honor.

[@ScorpionSuerte]

Like how Royce caught all those hooks vs larger champion boxer art Jimmerson or like how Randy Couture caught all those hooks vs one of the best boxers of all time James Toney?

[@willieraye]

2 sides too this story . Benny was also a Black belt in Judo & WORKED with Judo Gene Labelle. The jet KO'd me with a liver shot @ his dojo in Panorama city in LA's valley

[@superstrangevideo]

Again, NOT before he was challenged. Benny himself admits this. He trained with LeBell AFTER he was challenged.

[@MTHREECHILDE]

I bet this guy could fly.... underwater

[@78a67h]

Hard tale to swallow. Not against "The Jet". Maybe BJJ is great once you get someone on the floor, but Benny had an array of kicking and punching combos to deter that from happening. Moreover the one on the receiving end of Benny's techniques would be in serious trouble.

[@angelmnm2031]

These short vid are great for those of us who have always been interested in how the art started in the US.

[@amberharmsen2497]

It would be if the family wasn’t cheating doing drugs to win fights They wouldn’t be where they are now if the family wasn’t pulling strings during the first ufc Look at the statistics they only wanted to win one competition They competed less and less as time went on because they kept losing

[@IXSuperRadGamerXI]

They had to abuse steroids to get a decision on Sakuraba in 2007. Which, by the way, Royce clearly should have lost that fight by decision. The other 4 fights Kazushi simply made it look like child's play and beat them to a pulp.

[@caseycobb9887]

Yeah the more times I watch it the more I can see that smug look on his face I think the Viking Samurai needs to have an interview with this guy

[@ekklesialifeapplicationbib7352]

Benny the jet is a legend!

[@clay_reznor647]

Benny was a Judoka and a Boxer. It sounds like you convince Benny to do an exhibition, but you took it a step further. I imagine that was the reason for the cash challenge that came out later. You’re a silly man.

[@aicitma]

that was NOT Benny The Jet this man is talking about because Benny never taught on basketball courts at YMCAs

[@superstrangevideo]

What you don't seem to understand is that back when Benny and all these other so called masters were challenged, no one had enough grappling experience back then to counter the moves, like we see today. So you are confusing what's been done more recently, with what was done in 1988. Why isn't this obvious to you? Like grow up dude.

[@roninbjjmma]

I was there I have my own version

[@flowrepins6663]

lie benny would kick ur s he was blck belt judo and was training with lebell

[@KnuckleDusterBuster]

Dad dad tell us the one about the Sakuraba guy!

[@mattmatthews4274]

Benny would win easily

[@Robbo3369]

Benny Rocks!

[@JeffSanders-uj1wx]

You know, it is easy to say anything about anybody, when the person you're talking trash about isn't there to defend themselves. I am very suspicious of anyone who posts their videos of how they beat all these famous people (Benny the Jet, Hee Il Cho, etc. etc.) yet never have these people on their KZbin channel....and the story is always the same. The guy giving the talk always wins. Bring on some of these people you say you beat and interview them.

[@merlin5420]

Sakuraba is the only sheriff in town

[@claudiodominguez.]

The gracies are working on a phone app that will get you a red belt if you $$$.

[@jeffcandy2479]

Classy